WebHosting Paid by #1Payday.Loans
[01:46] daja77_ (n=daja@dslb-088-072-032-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:58] daja77 (n=daja@dslb-088-072-032-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:59] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-9d7fc6599c35bfb0) joined #rocklinux. [01:59] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-a5b54cc9ea9f60b3) left irc: Nick collision from services. [02:00] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [03:21] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:22] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:43] leonel (n=leonel@dsl-201-128-142-157.prod-infinitum.com.mx) joined #rocklinux. [03:44] <leonel> is this channel for rocksclusters ? [03:45] leonel (n=leonel@dsl-201-128-142-157.prod-infinitum.com.mx) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [03:54] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-100-243.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:01] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-104-109.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:01] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [04:16] Freak_ (n=freak@dslb-082-083-197-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:29] Freak (n=freak@dslb-082-083-196-243.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:08] <blindcoder> YAY! I now have an iris scan of esdens eye [07:21] <esden> rofl [07:21] <esden> have fun with it :P [07:30] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [08:17] <blindcoder> yeah, I will encrypt my harddisk with it :) [08:21] BoS_ (n=BoS@dslb-088-072-037-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:21] BoS (n=BoS@dslb-088-072-035-011.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:17] <owl> moin [10:29] <esden> blindcoder: cool ... then I can access your disk whenever I want to ... it is still my iris ... ;) [10:32] <netrunner> blindcoder: which behaviour do you mean? that it starts udevd? [10:33] Action: netrunner has some problems here, no entries in /dev/pts/ ... konsole does not work. [10:48] <netrunner> the rockinitrd does not boot at all ... [10:57] <blindcoder> netrunner: yes [10:57] <blindcoder> netrunner: you need to mount -t devpts none /dev/pts [10:58] <blindcoder> well, last time I checked this morning I was booting my laptop with it [11:06] <netrunner> blindcoder: according to mount it is already there ... [11:06] <netrunner> blindcoder: as well as 8 times ramfs on /dev ??? [11:08] <blindcoder> huh? [11:09] <blindcoder> sounds like a problem in your initscripts [11:17] <esden> woot ... zieiss releasing nikon lenses!!! *jumparound* [11:19] <blindcoder> hehe [11:19] <blindcoder> anyway, lunchtime [11:22] <esden> I need money!!! A lot of money! [11:23] <esden> blindcoder: bon apetitt ;) [11:24] <netrunner> ah, stupid initscript [11:27] <netrunner> /dev/.udevdb is now called /dev/.udev/db [11:27] Action: netrunner barfs on udef [11:27] <netrunner> v [11:54] <blindcoder> I remember a patch handling that... [11:54] <blindcoder> netrunner: stand in line like everyone else! [12:01] <netrunner> how would entries in /dev/pts be created? [12:02] <blindcoder> by mounting devpts on it [12:02] <blindcoder> 10:59 < blindcoder> netrunner: you need to mount -t devpts none /dev/pts [12:04] <netrunner> blindcoder: it is mounted. but it is empty. [12:05] <blindcoder> then it has been overmounted by your 8 ramfs [12:05] <netrunner> brrr cold here. [12:06] <netrunner> ok. after having copied qemu-0.8.0-0.gem to here I will reboot with fixed /etc/initscript and retry. [12:07] <daja77_> coldrunner ;) [12:07] <daja77_> you got a build for it? [12:07] <netrunner> yup [12:07] <daja77_> it does not work with gcc4 [12:08] <netrunner> daja77_: I do not use such fancy new technology :) [12:09] <netrunner> parameters passed to /sbin/init: [12:09] <daja77_> gcc34 segafaultet on it ;) [12:09] <netrunner> Usage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu [12:09] <blindcoder> humm [12:09] <blindcoder> netrunner: which rockinitrd patches have you applied? [12:09] <netrunner> VFS: cannot open root device "hda4" or unknown block (3,4) [12:10] <netrunner> Please append ... panic [12:10] <netrunner> blindcoder: all but the one making it default everywhere. [12:10] <blindcoder> humm [12:10] <blindcoder> I don't support those :) [12:11] <blindcoder> please contact your patcher *hangup* [12:11] <blindcoder> let me check [12:12] <netrunner> oh, maybe I should use root=/dev/ram0 [12:12] <blindcoder> oh [12:12] <netrunner> ... when I read description of 2006010920315712707 ... [12:12] <blindcoder> I suddenly remember that I always use 2 3 4 or 5 as kernel parameters [12:13] <blindcoder> which will be passed to init as parameters [12:13] <blindcoder> so linuxrc gets "linuxrc 5" and passes that 5 to /sbin/init [12:13] <blindcoder> but really [12:13] <blindcoder> it should work anyway [12:13] <blindcoder> init should then get the default runlevel from /etc/inittab [12:13] <netrunner> blindcoder: you must start init with parameter I guess [12:14] <blindcoder> no [12:14] <netrunner> wasn't there something about init not being started as first process and not having pid 0 [12:14] <blindcoder> not necessarily [12:14] <blindcoder> that's why init is exec'd [12:14] <blindcoder> so it has pid 1 [12:15] <blindcoder> which is the correct one [12:16] Action: netrunner trying a reboot [12:29] <netrunner> ok. with real_root it would even work using just /dev/hda4. [12:29] <netrunner> just need to disable fscking [13:08] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [13:08] <[raphael]> hi * [13:34] ubijtsa (n=ubijtsa@213.208.70.155) joined #rocklinux. [14:18] <blindcoder> netrunner: why disable fscking? [14:27] <blindcoder> okay, so what's rene's problem THIS TIME? [14:28] <stf^rocklinux> dunno, missing credits? [14:31] <blindcoder> SCNR: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2006011712505803584 [14:35] <daja77_> rene's problem? [14:35] <blindcoder> daja77_: see that patch in submaster... [14:36] <blindcoder> he's letting his ego get the better of him again [14:47] <owl> do you think the creative commons attribution-sharealike 2.0 germany license is ok for a docu? [14:47] <blindcoder> owl: maybe add no-derivs [14:47] sparc-kly (n=sparc-kl@64.237.255.7) joined #rocklinux. [14:47] <owl> no-derivs? [14:47] <blindcoder> no derivatives [14:48] <blindcoder> but by-sa is fine [14:48] <owl> so no "bearbeitung"? [14:48] <blindcoder> no changing and claiming it as ones own [14:48] <blindcoder> rockdoc is/was by-sa-2.0 [14:48] <owl> hmm. i have "namensnennungs" [14:48] <owl> in it, but you are allowed to change it... : https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/de/ [14:49] <owl> and you have to share it with same "bedingungen" [14:49] <blindcoder> yes, that's the by-sa part :) [14:49] <owl> hehe. so it's ok? [14:49] <blindcoder> having nd in a wiki would be quite... problematic :) [14:49] <owl> because i want to allow people to change parts of the docu if they want to make better solutions [14:50] <owl> yeah. in a doc working with different people (hopefully) alos ;) [14:52] <owl> rofl. someone (no some people) were searching for "lachtraenen" and stumbled over my weblog O_O [14:52] <blindcoder> o_O [14:53] <owl> yes :) [14:53] <netrunner> do I need to comment this? [14:53] <owl> yes ;) [14:54] <netrunner> udevd stops accepting messages from udevsend anyway as soon as it receives the first message over netlink. so emptying the /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug just avoids duplicate events. [14:55] <blindcoder> sounds sane [14:56] <netrunner> this I knew even before he mentioned it. [14:57] <netrunner> my question to rxr was about his hotplug++ (for which I would give him credit in form of an [A] tag ;) ... unfortunately he is not able to discuss objective and stick to the topic. [14:59] <blindcoder> tell news... [14:59] <blindcoder> we shouldn't be too hard on him, he really needs the PR [15:11] <netrunner> sure. nobody's perfect, and he's just a bit neurotic :) [15:12] <netrunner> no, choleric I mean. [15:12] <netrunner> stupid latin words :) [15:12] <netrunner> you know what I mean. [15:14] <netrunner> https://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2006/Jan/1298.html [15:29] <[raphael]> There is a $libdir variable that can be used in *.conf files, what is the equivalent for the share directory? [15:30] <stf^rocklinux> it's datadir [15:31] <stf^rocklinux> see Documentation/Developers/PKG-BUILD-VARS [15:35] <[raphael]> stf^rocklinux: thanks! [15:35] <stf^rocklinux> pleasure [15:54] <blindcoder> [raphael]: or https://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Creating_Packages#controlling_the_automations [16:09] <[raphael]> so... does network profile autodetection somehow work - for example the link state of eth0 is no carrier, then use profile so and so, else use dhcp,... [16:09] <blindcoder> no [16:09] <[raphael]> ok, so no way to work around dhcp discovery during startup [16:10] <blindcoder> you can set up two profiles and define the one without dhcp as default [16:10] <blindcoder> though network setup is no fun at all right now :( [17:11] <[raphael]> any idea why dri is not working despite /dev/dri/card0 and /dev/misc/agpgart exist? The only error message I get in xorg.log is that DRI setup failed, but no explaination whatsoever [17:12] <stf^rocklinux> hm [17:12] <[raphael]> I already tried to set permissions to 666 for all these files, but no luck [17:12] <[raphael]> (and anyway: DRI doesn't work for root either) [17:12] <[raphael]> that's with kernel 2.4 [17:12] <[raphael]> 2.4.31-rock [17:12] <[raphael]> with an i830M board [17:12] <stf^rocklinux> I had a problem using hardware acceleration with the ATI proprietary driver [17:13] <stf^rocklinux> it was fixed by mount tmpfs on /dev/shm instead of ramfs, no idea if it's related to your problem... [17:13] <[raphael]> ah... yes, the i830M uses shm [17:13] <[raphael]> I'll check it out [17:15] <stf^rocklinux> without the fix, 3d apps (e.g. glxgears) would run very slow [17:16] <[raphael]> yes, and I use glxinfo to check whether DRI is really enabled, and it always tells me No [17:16] <[raphael]> :( [17:16] <[raphael]> DRI is one of the main reasons for using Linux on my laptop at all [17:16] <[raphael]> since that's "slower" on FreeBSD [17:17] <stf^rocklinux> maybe there's a hint in the respective docs to your graphics driver? The /dev/shm problem was mentioned in the Ati docs... [17:18] <[raphael]> it is not mentioned in man i810 [17:19] <[raphael]> I'm not sure whether Intel itself has some more docs on this [17:19] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) left irc: "BRB" [17:19] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) joined #rocklinux. [17:20] <stf^rocklinux> color depth is set to 16 or 24? [17:20] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) left irc: Client Quit [17:20] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) joined #rocklinux. [17:22] <[raphael]> (EE) I810(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. [17:23] <stf^rocklinux> anything notable in the output of 'dmesg' ? [17:26] <[raphael]> [drm] Initialized i810 1.2.1 20020211 on minor 0 [17:26] <[raphael]> stf^rocklinux: might it be possible that X got compiled against kernel 2.6 and now I'm running 2.4 ? [17:26] <[raphael]> regarding the drm modules? [17:29] <stf^rocklinux> all progs are compiled against 2.6 headers as long as not specified otherwise in Config [17:30] <stf^rocklinux> don't know if this might cause errors with 2.4 drm modules... [17:30] <daja77_> aaargh what the hell is wrong with the gcc4 fortran frontend [17:42] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:52] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [21:10] daja77_ (n=daja@dslb-088-072-032-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "downtime" [21:29] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997E90.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:37] sparc-kl1 (n=sparc-kl@64.237.250.95) joined #rocklinux. [21:57] sparc-kly (n=sparc-kl@64.237.255.7) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:01] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997E90.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:07] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997E90.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:21] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-032-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:42] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:44] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997E90.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [23:52] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Thu Jan 19 2006