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[00:58] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-107-070.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:13] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-117-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:13] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [03:05] imel (n=imel@ws1.go.melsa.net.id) joined #rocklinux. [03:10] imel (n=imel@ws1.go.melsa.net.id) left irc: "Leaving" [04:50] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-5f8e27b4c1386831) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:50] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-3ccc8b442411823b) joined #rocklinux. [07:01] <netrunner> moin [07:38] <blindcoder> moin [09:44] <netrunner> there are packages in trunk missing others ... I wonder how they ever built without. [09:44] <blindcoder> which? [09:50] <netrunner> e.g. straw wants python-gtkhtml. which we don't have. [09:51] <netrunner> now I tried to add python-gtkhtml, but it looks for a gtkhtml-config, which none of our gtkhtml packages provides. [09:55] <blindcoder> what is straw? [10:00] <netrunner> gnome news aggregator [10:00] <netrunner> damn, I am already hungry. [10:01] <blindcoder> same here [10:01] <blindcoder> but only because breakfast only consisted of a cup of coffee [10:48] Action: blindcoder gives up building a livecd with current trunk [10:49] <netrunner> blindcoder: why? I built one fine some time ago, just that it didn't boot because of old udev stuff [10:49] <blindcoder> netrunner: because there are changes already in that depend on others that are not yet in [10:49] <blindcoder> so I just wait for cliffords next apply storm [10:50] <netrunner> blindcoder: don't you build on rock-community? [10:50] <blindcoder> no, on cliffords trunk [10:50] stf^rocklinux (n=user@michu1-139-84.utaonline.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:51] <blindcoder> come to think of it, crystal doesn't build in current rock-linux trunk, either [10:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: I wanted to prepare the CLT discs [10:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: I think we should hand out official builds there [10:51] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux [10:52] <stf^rocklinux> hi blindcoder [10:54] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: is it possible to parse multiletter options with getopts (like --help)? [10:55] <stf^rocklinux> the man pages doesn [10:55] <stf^rocklinux> doesn't mention it... [10:56] <blindcoder> don't think so [10:56] <blindcoder> at least not in bash [10:57] <blindcoder> it is in C, however [10:57] <blindcoder> you can do something like this: [10:58] <blindcoder> while getopts 'vh' OPTION ; do [10:58] <blindcoder> case ${OPTION} in [10:58] <blindcoder> v) VERBOSE=1 ;; [10:58] <blindcoder> h) usage ;; [10:59] <blindcoder> -help) usage ;; # don't know if that works [10:59] <blindcoder> \?) error ;; [10:59] <blindcoder> *) impossible ;; [10:59] <blindcoder> esac [10:59] <blindcoder> done [11:09] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: doesn't work... but GNU getopt should be able to parse long options. [11:11] <daja77> iirc getopts is for long and short options [11:12] <blindcoder> daja77: in C, yes [11:12] <daja77> yep [11:12] <stf^rocklinux> daja77: I was refering to shell getopts [11:14] <daja77> kk [11:14] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: what did you mean when you wrote that my shell script depends on being called directly? [11:15] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: huh? [11:15] <netrunner> hoeh? [11:15] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: when did I say that in what context? [11:16] <stf^rocklinux> You replied to the patch dependency tracking script: "But it would be even more helpful if it wouldn't just assume a sane environment and being called directly." [11:16] <stf^rocklinux> I don [11:16] <blindcoder> correctly, not directry [11:17] <blindcoder> directly [11:17] <netrunner> ah, that mplayer is from cvs ... [11:17] <stf^rocklinux> ah, thanks [11:18] <blindcoder> so, I'm off for lunch [11:18] <blindcoder> bbl [11:18] <stf^rocklinux> cu [11:32] <netrunner> what can it be when cvs checkout always stalls at 32K? [11:33] <stf^rocklinux> slow cvs server, maybe? [11:34] <stf^rocklinux> or slow connection to server [11:34] <netrunner> hm. I have more a feeling that it is related to masquerading somehow [11:35] Action: netrunner wats to update mplayer cvs as there seems to be a problem once again ... [11:36] <stf^rocklinux> if you already have an older checkout, you could try to cvs update it... [11:37] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: that doesn't help scripts/Download to work :) [11:38] <stf^rocklinux> yes, but if cvs up works, I'd suppose it's a temporary problem with the server/connection [11:40] <stf^rocklinux> gotta walk the dogs now... and then go swimming. [11:40] <stf^rocklinux> cya [11:40] stf^rocklinux (n=user@michu1-139-84.utaonline.at) left #rocklinux ("Kopete 0.10.3 : https://kopete.kde.org"). [12:00] <blindcoder> re [12:33] <th> !> sed: can't read /etc/pam.d/login: No such file or direct .. [12:33] <th> the directory does not exist [12:33] <th> /etc/pam.d [12:34] <th> config.in:/ gdbm / { s/^X /O /; p; d; }; / pam / { s/^X /O /; p; d; }; [12:34] <th> pam is disabled. [12:35] <blindcoder> o_O [12:35] <blindcoder> which target and why? [12:35] <th> target/bootdisk [12:36] <th> it's in the category # Disable even more packages we do not need [12:36] <blindcoder> I see [12:37] <blindcoder> So we should create /etc/pam.d in shadow if it doesn't exist [12:37] <th> well. [12:37] <th> if we build WITHOUT pam.. [12:37] <th> why does shadow want to place a file in pam.d? [12:38] <blindcoder> [ -d ${root}/etc/pam.d ] || mkdir -p ${root}/etc/pam.d [12:38] <th> mkdir -pv sounds better [12:38] <blindcoder> why do we need shadow if we don't have pam? [12:38] <blindcoder> whatever [12:48] <th> Removing unsupported '--without-pam' from configure option string. [12:48] <th> i really thought shadow is usable without pam [12:48] <th> indeed i'm pretty sure [12:48] <th> strange [12:49] <th> however... [12:49] <th> will you add the above thing, or shall i? [12:50] <blindcoder> doesn't look like a package that makes sense without pam [12:50] <SMP> eh [12:50] <blindcoder> go ahead [12:50] <th> i dont believe this [12:50] <th> hey SMP [12:50] <blindcoder> moin SMP [12:51] <SMP> in fact, it's rather an anomaly that shadow uses pam at all [12:51] <SMP> sure, it's intended, but nontheless [12:52] <th> we even have some pam patches in the shadow package [12:53] <blindcoder> well, it's not like I've looked hard intto it [12:53] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-040-088.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:53] <blindcoder> I just hacked up a rather useless pam module that opens more security problems than it solves [12:54] <SMP> blindcoder: huh? [12:54] <th> anyways. installing files into pam.d should be possible without pam installed [12:54] <th> perhaps one wants to switch to pam later [12:54] <th> sounds crazy [12:54] <th> but i think creating the directory would be ok [12:54] <blindcoder> SMP: a module that passed username and password to an external program for further validating [12:55] <blindcoder> SMP: simply because I'm better at writing shell scripts than C code [12:55] <blindcoder> SMP: and I wanted authentication agains my openpgp card [12:55] <SMP> yuck [12:56] <blindcoder> indeed ;) [12:57] <th> we already have a `if [ -d $root/etc/pam.d ]` [12:57] <th> the mistake seems to be that the sed on etc/pam.d/login is outside that if [12:58] <SMP> th: "switching to pam" involves much more than just installing the pam package. especially one would have to install a pamified shadow package to get a pamified /bin/login [12:58] <th> SMP: that's why i added "sounds crazy" [12:59] <SMP> shame and blame to the one who put that in ouside the if block [12:59] <th> ok - i just put the 'sed' which currently fails inside this if-branch [12:59] <th> ok i'll commit it to submaster [13:00] <blindcoder> netrunner: uploaded your block.pl changes to shellscripts.org [13:01] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-034-073.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:08] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-5c6a72092388db39) joined #rocklinux. [13:08] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-3ccc8b442411823b) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:09] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [13:52] <owl> moin [14:09] owl (n=owl@62.4.80.218) left irc: "brb. changing pc" [14:09] owl (n=owl@M85e2.m.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:09] <owl> re [14:22] <daja77_> blindcoder: ? [14:25] owl (n=owl@M85e2.m.pppool.de) left irc: "brb. another pc now. O_O" [14:27] owl (n=owl@M85e2.m.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:30] <blindcoder> daja77_: ! [14:33] <daja77_> just got a question from a paranoid who needs a linux system installer that installs on encrypted filesystems and I thought that this is your resort [14:33] <daja77_> btw poop is active again [14:36] <daja77_> oh i am sysop in the wiki, like you [14:37] <blindcoder> :) [14:37] <blindcoder> daja77_: sure, forward him to mne [14:37] <blindcoder> actually, we don't "install" on encrypted filesystems [14:37] <blindcoder> we encrypt existing filesystems [14:37] <blindcoder> which is even better :D [14:39] <daja77_> how do i block this poop idiot [14:39] <blindcoder> lock his account, block the word poop on the blacklist, stuff like this [14:42] <daja77_> done [14:43] <blindcoder> how? [14:43] <blindcoder> I'm currently looking but can't find the pages [14:44] <daja77_> d'oh the create_iso page is still defaced [14:44] <daja77_> blindcoder: special_pages -> restricted_special_pages -> block user [14:44] <daja77_> or ip [14:45] <blindcoder> ah [14:46] <daja77_> we should check all pages [14:46] <daja77_> rolled back this one [14:46] <blindcoder> submaster, too [14:46] <blindcoder> ralling it back [14:47] <daja77_> ok [14:47] <blindcoder> is it possible to completely delete a change? [14:47] <blindcoder> instead of just getting the last normal one back [14:48] <daja77_> is there a difference [14:48] <blindcoder> yes [14:48] <blindcoder> once it appeares in the history and once it doesn't [14:48] <daja77_> the crap is in the log? [14:48] <daja77_> well don't care [14:50] <blindcoder> submaster also fixed [14:52] <daja77_> you never mentioned the pic from lay [14:53] <blindcoder> humm [14:53] <blindcoder> she gave it to me a few days ago [14:53] <blindcoder> two or three [14:53] <blindcoder> I'll print it on a poster for CLT [14:53] <daja77_> 4 :P [14:53] <daja77_> :) [14:54] <daja77_> nice [14:54] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:57] <blindcoder> >_< [14:57] <blindcoder> my server just went down [14:57] <blindcoder> along with all of hetzner, it seems [14:58] <daja77_> d'oh [15:08] <netrunner> when should I arrive to ltc? fr or sa? [15:08] <blindcoder> sa is fine [15:09] <daja77_> and fr is ok either [15:10] <blindcoder> daja77_: I just hope that lay won't kill me for turning her pic into a poster ;) [15:10] <daja77_> ask her [15:11] <blindcoder> no, she said he gave me the pic as a preseent! [15:11] <blindcoder> And that I could do with it what I want ;) [15:12] <daja77_> if she wants to kill me, please tell me, I don't want to miss that [15:12] <blindcoder> heh, I sure you wouldn't ;) [15:12] <daja77_> hm can you give the url for the community tree again? [15:13] <blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/svn/rock-community/ [15:13] <blindcoder> glad I didn't move that one onto my server, too ;) [15:15] <daja77_> *gg* [15:18] <blindcoder> ARGH! THE LAG! [15:37] <netrunner> WTF does this stupid cvs stall so badly? :( [15:37] <netrunner> maybe I should try a simpler firewall config [15:38] <daja77_> yep let everything in ;) [15:38] <netrunner> daja77_: I ask myself why shouldn't I? processes that are not for external use don't listen on external if anyway. [15:39] <daja77_> netrunner: i don't have a firewall .. [15:40] <netrunner> daja77_: see, that's what I am talking about :) [15:41] <daja77_> :) [16:06] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:14] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-5c6a72092388db39) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:39] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-f9c8886f0c8d2dd4) joined #rocklinux. [16:56] markuman (n=markuman@p50926A65.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:09] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:20] <th> the last libtool update broke xfsprogs i think [17:21] <th> and the last initrd thing broke rockinitrd [17:22] <th> and shadow now fails because of a libtoolize problem ( ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 25: libtoolize: command not fo .. ) [17:25] <blindcoder> th: how is the initrd broken? [17:26] <blindcoder> I have an installed rock-community here [17:27] <th> expr: non-numeric argument [17:27] <th> blindcoder: i tried to build bootdisk target with community HEAD revision [17:28] <th> blindcoder: it only took 3 seconds [17:28] <th> == 13:49:43 =[5]=> Building blindcoder/rockinitrd [20050720 0]. [17:28] <th> !> xsrctar=none [17:28] <th> !> xtrace=0 [17:28] <th> !> y=g77-34 [17:28] <th> !> z='g77 g77-34' [17:28] <th> ... [17:29] <th> !> eval "$1=\"\`echo \"\$$1\" | awk -- ' { split(\$0, a .. [17:29] <th> !> } [17:29] <th> !> expr: non-numeric argument [17:29] <th> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-rockinitrd.out -> 5-rockinitrd.err [17:29] <th> == 02/21/06 13:49:46 =[5]=> Aborted building package rockinitrd. [17:29] <blindcoder> huh? [17:29] <blindcoder> where's that line from? [17:33] <th> i pasted build output [17:33] <blindcoder> the error log would be more interesting ;) [17:34] <th> contains the same [17:34] <th> eval "$1=\"\`echo \"\$$1\" | awk -- ' { split(\$0, a, \"$2\"); for (c1=c2=1; c1 in a; c1++) if ( a[c1] !~ /^$3\\\$/ ) b[c2++]=a[c1]; for (c1=1; c1 i [17:34] <th> n b; c1++) printf \"%s%s\", (c1 > 0 ? \"$2\" : \"\"), b[c1]; }'\`\"" [17:34] <th> } [17:34] <th> expr: non-numeric argument [17:34] <th> i can send it to you [17:34] <th> --- BUILD ERROR --- [17:34] <th> wait i make it public [17:35] <th> https://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/5-rockinitrd.err [17:37] <th> libtool[3] failed. that causes some other failures [17:37] <th> libtool failes because ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 1: aclocal: command not found [17:40] <blindcoder> you know... [17:40] <blindcoder> I really don't get what thta err log is [17:40] <blindcoder> my err logs usually look different [17:41] <th> coreutils bitch as well [17:41] <th> WARNING: `automake-1.9' is missing on your system.... [17:41] <th> configure.ac:252: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_FUNC_XATTR [17:43] <blindcoder> o_O [17:45] <th> my build-systems is your crysta [17:45] <th> l [17:45] <th> only checked out. run config (selected only mmx and boot-target) [17:45] <th> ran download [17:45] <th> and started build-target [17:45] <th> i cant see what i could've made wrong [17:45] <blindcoder> guess I'll start a build myself because I can't make heads nor tails from this [17:47] <blindcoder> neither can I [17:47] <th> btw - where is the overall-build-log gone? in stable it was in the dir "build/build-id/" now this is the root system already [17:48] <blindcoder> build/id/ROCK/logs [17:48] <th> ahh i missed that dir [17:49] <th> i uploaded that as well. please have a look [17:49] <blindcoder> the general build log only contains what is also visible on the terminal [17:50] <th> yes [17:50] <th> but i cant scp what i see ;) [17:58] <th> so this seems like a priority problem to me [17:58] <th> automake.desc: [17:58] <th> [P] X -?-3-----9 109.600 [17:58] <th> libtool.desc: [17:58] <th> [P] X -?-3-----9 105.203 [17:58] <th> and[P] X -?-3-----9 105.203 [17:59] <th> libtool complains about aclocal missing [18:00] <th> svn diff -r 52:53 https://scavenger.homeip.net/svn/rock-community/trunk/package/base/libtool/libtool.desc [18:00] <th> -[P] X -?-3-----9 109.700 [18:00] <th> +[P] X -?-3-----9 105.203 [18:00] <blindcoder> that's the priority patch clifford submitted today [18:00] <th> and i bet that caused libtool failing [18:01] <th> with this patch libtool is built without automake [18:01] <th> what trunk revision is that patch from cliff you are referring to? [18:03] <th> 2006022110041515377 [18:03] <th> Clifford Wolf: [18:03] <th> Moved acl and attr to stage 3 [18:03] <th> Fixed priorities of acl, attr, libtool, autoconf and automake [18:03] <th> blindcoder: and your r53 did not change automake [18:04] <th> -[P] X -?-3-----9 109.600 [18:04] <th> +[P] X -?-3-----9 105.202 [18:04] <blindcoder> oops [18:04] <th> (automake) [18:04] <th> lemme fix that [18:04] <blindcoder> sorry >_< [18:06] <th> what was the syntax if i dont want a patch to appear in submaster? [18:06] <blindcoder> -SM [18:06] <blindcoder> don't worry, you'd get a commit error if the first line contains something else than -SM or valid submaster user/password [18:07] <th> that's good [18:07] <th> and later we can add things like sm=wip or something [18:08] <th> ahh no that wont work easily [18:08] <th> ok - fixed in r57 [18:10] <th> == 02/21/06 17:12:55 =[3]=> Finished building package libtool. [18:15] <th> ok this did not fix the rockinitrd error [18:16] <th> but it fixed all the acl/attr/shadow errors [18:16] <th> propably caused by your r45 'WARNING: This is still untested! Please wait for a comment from me :)' [18:18] <blindcoder> hardly [18:18] <blindcoder> that only causes runtime problems [18:19] <th> i meant r55 of cause [18:19] <th> course [18:22] <blindcoder> sure :) [18:29] <th> why do you do `such' quoting instead of 'such' ? [18:29] <th> in initrd.init [18:29] <th> that's confusing me [18:32] <th> bbl [18:32] <blindcoder> because that's done everywhere else, too [18:32] <blindcoder> m4 [19:39] Action: blindcoder starts rendering the main part of the rock promo video. duration of the video: ~ 2 minutes [19:45] Action: daja77_ curses [20:10] Action: netrunner also [21:21] markuman (n=markuman@p50926A65.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [21:31] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-9081f5c91b1bbe4a) joined #rocklinux. [21:31] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-f9c8886f0c8d2dd4) left irc: Nick collision from services. [21:31] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [21:46] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997FDD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:57] markuman (n=markuman@p50926A65.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:12] markuman (n=markuman@p50926A65.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:13] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54997FDD.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [22:34] <netrunner> hokus pokus fixdibus [23:13] <netrunner> stats becoming better ... 3194 builds total, 3025 completed fine, 149 with errors. [00:00] --- Wed Feb 22 2006