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[01:08] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-106-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:17] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-116-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:17] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [02:04] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-032-115.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:18] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-032-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:33] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:33] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:14] <blindcoder> moin [08:22] <netrunner> moin, 2 [08:22] <th> 3 [08:30] <blindcoder> CLT-Crystal is done [08:30] <blindcoder> now I hope that CLT-LiveCD will finish today [09:01] <daja77_> wah [09:01] <daja77_> 1606 builds total, 1279 completed fine, 38 with errors. [09:24] <blindcoder> laway [09:24] <blindcoder> could be worse :) [09:25] <daja77_> well 3 games involved .. [09:30] <icelbox> as long as vegastrike is working ;) moin btw [09:31] <daja77_> don't have a vegastrike package anyway [09:31] <daja77_> the installer will do, there hasn't been a release for ages [09:51] <blindcoder> vegastrike is quite nice [09:51] <blindcoder> it even supports my spacemouse :) [09:57] <icelbox> if those capships would be easier too steer... ;) [10:15] <blindcoder> 25 DVDs, 10 CDs and 15 LiveCDs [10:15] <blindcoder> icelbox: no idea, I just played Privateer Remake [10:31] <th> blindcoder: do you have a minute [10:59] <blindcoder> th: sure [11:00] <th> when should we load scsi modules for the bootdisk target? [11:01] <blindcoder> ehm... ASAP? [11:02] <th> well [11:02] <th> echo_status "Copy scsi and network kernel modules." [11:02] <th> for x in ../2nd_stage/lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/{scsi,net}/*.{ko,o} ; do [11:02] <th> that's in build_stage1 [11:02] <th> that would miss some modules [11:02] <th> kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid/*.ko for example [11:02] <th> it would be ok to load these modules in stage2 [11:03] <th> cause we only need cdrom drivers in stage1 if i understand it correctly [11:03] <th> at the moment i get tons of "module not found" errors when booting the bootdisk [11:03] <blindcoder> SCSI CD-ROM? [11:03] <th> in my case the cdrom is not scsi [11:04] <th> but in my case i have to load the megaraid module manually [11:04] <blindcoder> in your case :) [11:04] <th> cause it's not found in stage1 i guess [11:04] <blindcoder> FSC server? [11:04] <th> no [11:04] <th> a standard perc4 scsi [11:04] <th> dell poweredge [11:04] <blindcoder> heh, just a guess [11:04] <th> nothing really hardcore [11:04] <blindcoder> have a lot to do with LSI MegaRAID these days [11:04] <blindcoder> as built into FSC stuff [11:04] <blindcoder> anyway [11:05] <blindcoder> I'd say we should load them in stage 1 [11:05] <blindcoder> a) to keep the stuff together [11:05] <blindcoder> I don't want to have SCSI loading here, here and there [11:05] <blindcoder> b) to suppeort SCSI CD-ROM drives [11:05] <th> i think modules which enable scsi-cdroms are matched by scsi/* [11:06] <th> they should not be in a subdir [11:06] <th> that might proove wrong somewhen [11:06] <th> and i agree with your arguments. [11:06] <daja77_> wtf? why is scorched3d whining about not finding freetype [11:06] <blindcoder> daja77_: freetype2 maybe? [11:07] <daja77_> you mean it wants old freetype? [11:07] <blindcoder> another topic: i can get 50 discs labeled [11:07] <blindcoder> I suggest: 25 Crystal + Source DVDs, 10 Crystal CDs and 10 LiveCD + Source DVDs [11:07] <blindcoder> daja77_: maybe [11:08] <blindcoder> and 5 LiveCD CDs [11:08] <th> blindcoder: so i will fix the copying in build_stage1 to not miss modules in subdirs [11:08] <blindcoder> th: thanks [11:08] <blindcoder> anyone got another suggestion for the disc distribution? [11:09] <blindcoder> "no" or "sounds good" also welcome... [11:11] <daja77_> well hard to say, so perhaps we should try it this way [11:12] <blindcoder> okay [11:12] <blindcoder> lunchtime [11:48] <icelbox> yay, exam's over... time to switch computers [12:08] <th> blindcoder: we will break the 8MB limit for ramdisk then [12:13] <th> blindcoder: but that's because we want more than just CDROM to be working [12:13] <th> blindcoder: in fact i dont see a real big problem with extending it's size [12:17] <th> blindcoder: the full scsi and net directory even includes wlan [12:37] <owl> moin [12:48] <netrunner> th: why should ramdisk be bounded to 8MB? any reason? [12:48] <th> i dunno [12:49] <blindcoder> no special reason [12:49] <blindcoder> can be any size [12:49] <blindcoder> but must be set compiletime [12:49] <blindcoder> or with ramdisk_size=8192 parameter [13:46] <th> i've to pass that for a 16M initrd? [13:49] <th> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE or that i guess [13:51] <th> target/bootdisk/kernel.conf:CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=8192 [13:51] <th> ahh found it [14:01] <blindcoder> no, you have to specifi 16384 for a 16 MB ramdisk obviously [14:02] <blindcoder> or 10240 for 10 MB [14:03] <th> yea sure - i just did not see where the limit to 8M was set. [14:03] <th> i only saw the dd in in build_stage1 [14:09] <blindcoder> ah [14:35] <SMP> argh [14:35] <SMP> just get rid of the freaking ramdisk at all! [14:36] <daja77_> yes .. thank you [14:39] <SMP> well, for 2.6 at least use initramfs [15:23] <blindcoder> SMP: so, what's the practical difference? [15:32] <netrunner> blindcoder: flexible size, bound to 2.6 [16:06] <SMP> blindcoder: initrd is a dead end, initramfs needs to be supported anyway at some time in the future [16:11] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [16:11] <blindcoder> SMP: so it's initrd in a different color, basically? [16:12] <SMP> blindcoder: yes and no. question too vague. [16:13] <blindcoder> SMP: the function is the same but the machinsm is different [16:14] <blindcoder> mechanism [16:18] <netrunner> Portable OpenSSH 4.3p2 released February 11, 2006. [16:18] <netrunner> (security issue) [16:18] <daja77_> -.- [16:19] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:22] <SMP> blindcoder: it's a functional superset [16:22] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [16:23] <[raphael]> hi * [16:23] <blindcoder> great... [16:24] <blindcoder> looks like just another usability nightmare [16:24] <blindcoder> see also: ucrap [16:25] <blindcoder> LINUX: Linux Is Not Usable X (it's UNIX if it has the X sound in it) [16:25] <blindcoder> ARGH [16:25] <blindcoder> I feel the urge to destroy something coming up again.... [16:25] <blindcoder> better leave now [16:25] <blindcoder> bl [16:41] mnemoc_ (n=amery@200.73.88.2) joined #rocklinux. [16:57] mnemoc (n=amery@200.73.88.3) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:57] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [17:06] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:07] Action: icelbox slaps cvs.sourceforge.net [17:27] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit [17:34] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:34] <clifford> gcc 4.1.0 is released. [17:35] <clifford> https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/changes.html [17:36] <daja77_> we are still on 3.4.5 :) [17:45] <clifford> daja77_: what are the open regressions for switching to 4.x ? [17:47] <daja77_> only stuff in stage 9 [17:48] <daja77_> can't tell exactly atm because I don't have a gcc4 build atm [17:49] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit [17:52] <daja77_> well and qemu doesn't build with gcc4 [17:55] <netrunner> daja77_: it also didn't build with 345 in my last build :( [17:55] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:55] <daja77_> netrunner: yep because the check in the conf isn't working [17:55] <daja77_> just comment it [17:55] <daja77_> have to test that a bit more [18:06] nookie_ (n=nookie@M320P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [18:19] nookie (n=nookie@M209P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:28] <daja77_> wtf? [18:28] <daja77_> Warning: prerequisite SVN::Core 1.0.7 not found. [18:28] <daja77_> Warning: prerequisite SVN::Simple::Edit 0 not found. 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