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[00:04] <fake> https://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=246581 [00:04] <fake> great [00:18] <fake> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323853 [00:36] <th> fake: i'm impressed!! [00:37] <th> fake: the first time, i can see all my partitions in the installer [00:37] <th> fake: i guess that's a thanks to kubuntu ;) [00:38] <fake> th: i just finished fetching the iso [00:38] <fake> burning it now... [00:39] <th> still a glitch: no ohci-hcd loaded. so i have to plugin ps2 keyboard and load it manually [00:39] <th> machines in my office dont have ps2. [00:45] <th> this gen_init_cpio rocks. [00:46] <th> you can create an archive including devices, arbitrary ownership/permissions [00:47] <th> and all this as unprivileged user [00:47] <th> fake: btw - the udev rules seem to be missing some helper script like "/sbin/vol_id" [00:50] <fake> th: should be part of udev [00:50] <th> true. [00:50] <fake> udev: sbin/vol_id [00:50] <th> so it's a bug of rockinitrd [00:50] <fake> no [00:50] <fake> that's intended [00:51] <th> it's error messages to the user [00:51] <fake> correct solution would be not to copy 60-persistent-storage.rule from /etc/udev/rules.d to the initrd [00:51] <fake> oh [00:51] <fake> i dind't notice, have my udev set to 'debug'... so it's too noisy [00:53] <th> alias rm='rm -i' [00:54] <th> damn [00:54] <th> where does this come from? [00:54] <th> it's still in /etc/conf/profile [00:54] <th> i thought i removed that [00:55] <th> no i did not? [00:55] <th> strange [01:00] <th> nice. i'm in a initramfs. [01:00] <th> with a bash [01:08] <th> feels great [01:11] <th> Netfilter Xtables support (required for ip_tables) (NETFILTER_XTABLES) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) ? [01:11] <th> This is required if you intend to use any of ip_tables, [01:11] <th> ip6_tables or arp_tables. [01:14] <fake> (NEW) ? [01:15] <th> i copied my 2.6.15.6 config to 2.6.16 kernel and run oldconfig [01:17] <fake> weird [01:17] <mnemoc> i thought the 'New' were marks on the Kconfig file [01:18] <th> more warnings while compiling kernel with gcc4 [01:18] <th> NEW is everything that is not yet in your .config [01:21] <fake> ah... ok [01:21] <fake> makes sense [01:22] <th> root@localhost:/dev# l -d dis* [01:22] <th> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 Mar 27 03:51 discs [01:22] <th> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 Mar 27 03:48 disk [01:22] <th> disk has by-{id,path,uid} [01:22] <th> discs has disc{0,1} [01:23] <fake> yes? [01:24] <th> yes. [01:24] <fake> that's fine, isn't it? [01:24] <th> yes. [01:24] <fake> ;) [01:25] <th> btw - our default kernel is SMP [01:29] <fake> yes [01:29] <th> do we like that? [01:30] <fake> i guess the argument was 'why not' [01:31] <th> ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. [01:32] <fake> th: 2.6.16? patch applied? [01:32] <th> which patch? [01:32] <th> yea 2.6.16 [01:32] <fake> th: you'll need a patch to get the nvidia kernel module to compile with newer kernels [01:33] <th> it worked without one for 2.6.15.6 [01:33] <fake> i needed one for 2.6.16 [01:34] <fake> what's the error again? [01:34] <th> https://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/nvidia-installer.log [01:36] <th> include/asm/io.h: In function 'check_signature': [01:36] <th> include/asm/io.h:258: warning: wrong type argument to increment [01:37] <fake> error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'rlim' [01:37] <th> https://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=15794&d=1137942929 [01:37] <th> found this [01:38] <fake> https://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=15794&d=1137942929 [01:38] <fake> exactly. [01:38] <th> k [01:40] <th> works [01:40] <th> i remember needing a patch some kernel releases ago [01:40] <th> like 2.6.9 or something [01:40] <fake> damn, why is this phracking line in ptp mode? [01:46] <th> DAMN what's this? [01:46] <th> i think the desktop files issue is fixed? [01:46] <th> *snif* [01:47] <th> damn i was too tired while applying the patch :-( [01:48] <th> no wait [01:48] <th> this IS applied [01:49] <fake> the konqueror/help thing? [01:49] <fake> it was fixed in your last iso [01:49] <th> and the multimedia menu thing [01:49] Action: fake installing [01:49] <th> yes [01:49] <fake> yes [01:49] <th> it was fixed [01:49] Action: fake having a cigarette [01:49] <th> and my last thing was a vanilla one [01:50] <th> ahh [01:50] <th> yea the difference now removes my dirty quickfix and introduces stf new approach [01:50] <th> and he said that there is some issue i think [01:50] BoS|afk (n=BoS@dslb-088-072-032-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:50] BoS|afk (n=BoS@dslb-088-072-033-150.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:53] <th> 2006032520043030871 fixes the broken fix [01:53] <th> (desktop files) [01:57] <th> hmmm that would need a big rebuild [01:58] <th> the problem with the fix is known. and the fix to the fix looks promising. i think i will not rebuild everything because of this. [01:59] <th> i'll hotfix it and commit the journal [01:59] <th> fake: objections? [01:59] <fake> no [01:59] <fake> (hell, like i care about desktop files ;) [02:00] <th> it's a big kde showstopper ;) [02:00] <th> mutt works [02:02] <th> xterm works [02:08] <fake> nice! [02:08] <fake> have you noticed? [02:08] <fake> if you su - in an xterm, an xauth file is automatically created for the user 'su'-ed to! [02:08] <fake> s/file/token/ [02:09] <th> hmm [02:09] <th> that's nice [02:09] <fake> seems to be a new su feature [02:09] <th> hmmm my usb-stick does not work [02:09] <th> usb 1-4.2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 12 [02:09] <th> usb 1-4.2: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub [02:09] <th> usb 1-4.2: no configuration chosen from 1 choice [02:10] <fake> kernel related... [02:10] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-105-012.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [02:10] <th> works in the other usb-hcd [02:10] <fake> works here [02:10] <fake> on uhci... [02:10] <th> i've all modules loaded [02:10] <th> [eoh]hci [02:10] <th> now i replugged it [02:10] <th> from my keyboard [02:10] <th> to the front [02:11] <th> (of the machine) [02:11] <th> root@companion:/dev/disk/by-label# ls -l [02:11] <th> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Mar 27 05:12 VOLUME -> ../../scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 [02:12] <fake> Volume is the default windoze label [02:12] <th> well [02:13] <th> i dont know who owns this stick [02:13] <th> i dont see any kde-interaction with this stick [02:14] <fake> btw, i get 'unable to handle kernel paging request' messages when loading snd_intel8x0 [02:14] <fake> me neither [02:14] <th> hmm [02:14] <th> 02:12:34 < fake> kernel related... [02:15] <th> who made the dbus/hal patches? [02:15] <fake> avm, but your hald is probably not running anyways [02:15] <th> Setting up D-Bus. ............................................................................................................ :-) [02:15] <fake> type rc hal start [02:15] <th> Setting up Hardware Abstraction Layer. ....................................................................................... :-) [02:15] <th> i did that before [02:16] <th> do i need to restart my kde session for this? [02:16] <fake> no [02:16] <fake> just plugin you usb stick again [02:16] <th> i did [02:16] <th> starting hal/dbus was the first thing i did [02:16] <fake> i think [02:16] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-099-228.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:16] <fake> i just got 2 notices, one for my internal hd and one for my internal cdrom [02:16] <th> oh [02:17] <th> i restarted hal [02:17] <th> now i got those two [02:17] <th> but nothing for my usb-stick [02:18] <th> oh [02:18] <th> wrong [02:18] <th> it's not been my internal hd [02:18] <th> it was the stick [02:18] <th> but it fails to mount [02:19] <th> loading vfat [02:20] <th> no new message on replug [02:20] <fake> hm [02:20] <fake> maybe udev needs to do something [02:20] <fake> let me check our suse box [02:21] <fake> == 03/27/06 01:09:06 =[5]=> Finished building package firefox. [02:21] <fake> ha! [02:23] <th> ah restarting hal repeats the dialog [02:24] <th> hmmm clicking "Open in new Window" does not mount the stick but shows "wrong fs type, bad optionm bad superbloc on /dev/scsi/host7/.../part1 [02:25] <th> mounting manually works [02:25] <th> ahhh [02:25] <th> Mar 27 05:25:41 companion fstab-sync[28733]: removed all generated mount points [02:25] <th> Mar 27 05:25:42 companion fstab-sync[28750]: added mount point /media/VOLUME for /dev/scsi/host7/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 [02:25] <th> Mar 27 05:26:34 companion kernel: FAT: Unrecognized mount option "pamconsole" or missing value [02:26] <th> would you mind if i only commit my log tomorrow? [02:26] <th> tomorrow morning that is. [02:31] <th> i take this as a yes [02:31] <th> cya later then [02:32] <th> $ /usr/bin/nvidia-settings [02:32] <th> Segmentation fault (core dumped) [02:33] <fake> of course i don't mind [02:33] <th> i'm off [02:33] <fake> have a good night sleep! [03:04] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [03:05] _Ragnar_ (i=loki@216.250.77.230) joined #rocklinux. [07:46] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [07:47] <[raphael]> moin [07:48] <owl> hi [raphael] [08:39] <blindcoder> moin [08:45] owl (n=owl@193.93.28.218) left irc: "." [09:03] SteffenP (n=steffen@p549970F1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:21] SteffenP (n=steffen@p549970F1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [09:39] <netrunner> th: there are 2 things that need to be disabled in one of the hal policy files, one is the pamconsole option. [10:41] <th> and the other? [10:44] <blindcoder> th scares me... [10:44] <th> blindcoder: why so? [10:44] <blindcoder> you've gota strange character next to your name [10:45] <th> ah [10:45] #rocklinux: mode change '-o th' by th!n=th@montana.hbsn.de [10:45] <th> topic changing sucks [10:46] <blindcoder> yeah [10:46] <blindcoder> there should be a chanserv command [10:46] <th> no [10:47] <th> you can lock the topic [10:47] <blindcoder> that's what +t is for [10:47] <th> that enables everyone to set topics [10:47] <th> disables! [10:49] <blindcoder> yes [10:49] <blindcoder> effectively a topic lock [10:50] <netrunner> th: I actually thought I added some policy definition that overwrote those settings ... [10:51] <th> hmm [10:51] <netrunner> th: in trunk it is ... [10:52] <th> whut? [10:52] <th> i not even added hal+dbus to trunk yet [10:52] <netrunner> th: hal and dbus are in trunk for a long time. [10:52] <th> i not even added hal+dbus to CORE yet [10:52] <th> i'm sorry [10:53] <th> i just flagged them core in my current journal [10:53] <netrunner> th: but the problem you quoted (pamconsole) comes from hal [10:53] <netrunner> which installs fstab-sync [10:53] <th> ack [10:54] <netrunner> which should not be used ... [10:56] <th> oh [10:56] <th> i just flagged dbus+hal as core and they got use [10:56] <th> d [10:56] <th> netrunner: so what do you suggest? [10:57] <netrunner> th: if I find the time I will add something that disables the fstab-sync thing. [10:58] <netrunner> th: or maybe it could just be commented out. [10:58] <netrunner> it is only useful if you don't use kde/gnome and even then you can use ivman. [11:03] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-1b06423abafa588b) joined #rocklinux. [11:04] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-3fdb455ca428dbda) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:04] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [11:34] <fake> mornin' [11:35] <th> morning fake [11:35] <blindcoder> fake? at this time? what happened? [11:35] <th> fake: now i feel like i should use your gcc/qt updates before releasing [11:35] <th> blindcoder: DST propably screw him totally [11:39] <th> fake: could we make gcc4 default now? [11:42] <fake> th: i think so [11:42] <fake> th: no regressions with either gcc 4.0.2 and gcc 4.0.3 [11:42] <fake> th: also, the qt update caused no regressions [11:42] <th> would you do this? [11:42] <th> ahh you tested the qt? [11:42] <fake> yes. [11:42] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [11:42] <th> with crystal build? [11:42] <fake> yes. [11:42] <th> oh nice [11:42] <fake> with glibc-24, gcc 4.0.3. [11:42] <fake> no problems besides the desktop file issue [11:43] <fake> and [11:43] <fake> my bootdisk is 2.6.15.6, my systems' kernel is 2.6.16 [11:43] <th> i planned a mini-journal with qt/gcc updates now. but if you already tested... [11:43] <fake> mkinitrd postinstallscript will create an initrd for 2.6.15.6 on install [11:43] <fake> that sucks. [11:43] <fake> i did. [11:43] <blindcoder> bootdisk shouldn't differ from crystal kernel [11:43] <fake> the only really bad thing is the mkinitrd creation [11:43] <th> why is your bootdisk still 2.6.15.6? [11:44] <fake> th: because i didn't have the time to re-build it [11:44] <blindcoder> "Not a bug." [11:44] <th> ack [11:50] <th> fake: shall i commit your qt+gcc update? [11:50] <th> fake: or are you only delaying cause of the freeze? [11:51] <fake> th: i wasn't committing anything because you told me to ;) [11:51] Action: fake off for a meeting now [11:52] <fake> commit away, th ;) [11:52] <th> k [11:56] <th> building r7368-vanilla now [12:04] ringo (n=info@ip565668e1.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) joined #rocklinux. [12:42] ringo (n=info@ip565668e1.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:02] <stf^rocklinux> th: You'll need 2006032712571623151 for the sasl2 header location change [13:03] <stf^rocklinux> th: but I haven't tested the patch yet [13:05] <th> ugh [13:05] <th> stf^rocklinux: but there were no build errors? [13:07] <stf^rocklinux> th: sorry, I should have added that the header location change is not tested in a full build [13:08] <th> well i did a full build [13:09] <th> 20060326-crystal.iso was built without errors [13:09] <th> and is now completly applied to turnk [13:29] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [15:19] <th> ahhh [15:19] <th> Error logs from boot-TRUNK-x86-i486-32-bootdisk-expert: [15:19] <th> [5] public/raidtools [15:19] <daja77> moin th [15:19] <th> moin daja77 [15:19] <th> raidlib.c:66: error: redefinition of 'getpageshift' [15:19] <th> /usr/include/asm/page.h:8: error: previous definition of 'getpageshift' was here [15:19] <th> that's propably because of the gcc update [15:20] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.6) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [15:20] <daja77> ah perhaps one of these extern in header and static in c file definitions [15:20] <daja77> gcc4 doesn't like it [15:21] <th> we were about to drop raidtools from core anyways, no? [15:21] <th> perhaps we can remove it from bootdisk as well [15:21] <daja77> don't need them for raids? [15:21] <th> mdadm [15:21] <th> is the way to go [15:21] <daja77> ic [15:23] <th> X -----5---- 195.200 base mdadm 2.2 / base/system extra/filesystem CORE 0 [15:23] <th> it's already in there in boot [15:23] <th> perhaps we only need to drop the old one [15:24] <th> anyone has a flist of raidtools for me? [15:24] <th> or can check if it's needed in bootdisk? [15:25] <th> it's in stage2 package-map [15:26] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.6) joined #rocklinux. [15:26] <th> ah have it [15:34] <blindcoder> hmm [15:34] <blindcoder> guess I'll need linux-libc-headers in lvp now [17:43] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-038-034.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:47] <stf^rocklinux> re [17:54] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-045-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [18:37] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.6) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:38] <fake> th: drop it [18:39] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i'm gonna build a livecd now - after updating squasfs to 3.0 ;) [18:39] <fake> and after installing my shiny glibc24 crystal build [18:39] <fake> no problems with that, btw [18:40] <th> 18:41:30 < fake> th: drop it [18:40] <th> raidtools [18:40] <th> ? [18:40] <th> 2006032715325029860 [18:40] <fake> ack [18:40] <th> VOTECHECK: Needs a positive vote from (fake), (clifford) or (stefanp). [18:40] <th> ;-) [18:41] <th> 338 builds total, 166 completed fine, 0 with errors. [18:41] <th> with qt/gcc update [18:41] <th> a vanilla build, still! [18:42] <th> btw - how is our gcc41 status? [18:42] <stf^rocklinux> fake: nice! You might want to adapt build_stage1.sh, it behaves very much like the bootdisk target right now. [18:42] <th> stf^rocklinux: btw - i still dont understand your comment from some hours ago [18:42] <stf^rocklinux> th: untested here... [18:42] <th> 13:04:38 < stf^rocklinux> th: You'll need 2006032712571623151 for the sasl2 header location change [18:43] <stf^rocklinux> th: I had expected some package failures because of the header move... [18:44] <th> stf^rocklinux: no failures. [18:44] <th> stf^rocklinux: $topic built without errors. [18:44] <stf^rocklinux> th: then the patch is only needed to clean up :) [18:44] <th> stf^rocklinux: very good [18:45] <stf^rocklinux> th: can you check that sasl2 headers are really in usr/include/sasl? [18:46] <th> cyrus-sasl2:dev: usr/lib/sasl2/libplain.la [18:46] <th> cyrus-sasl2:dev: usr/lib/sasl2/libsasldb.la [18:46] <th> this? [18:46] <th> cyrus-sasl2:dev: usr/include/sasl/sasl.h [18:46] <stf^rocklinux> th: good :) [18:48] <fake> let me check wether kmail works now... [18:48] <th> it didn't? [18:49] <fake> i had a 'no mechs' problem [18:53] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.6) joined #rocklinux. [18:54] <stf^rocklinux> fake: mechs would be cool! [18:55] <stf^rocklinux> (whatever it's supposed to mean in kmail) [18:55] <fake> sasl authentication mechanisms ;) [18:55] <fake> booooring [19:13] <th> 338 builds total, 198 completed fine, 0 with errors. [19:13] <th> vanilla crystal r7368 [20:41] Action: fake building vanilla r7368 on ppc [20:42] <fake> th: kopete has no jabber capability on crystal [21:44] [bTz]Gurilla (n=Stub@cpc3-addl1-3-0-cust96.hers.cable.ntl.com) joined #rocklinux. [21:44] <[bTz]Gurilla> blindcoder [21:44] <[bTz]Gurilla> yo [21:46] Nick change: [bTz]Gurilla -> slm [21:47] Nick change: slm -> SlmIcro [21:51] zal (n=autonome@213.254.205.3) joined #rocklinux. [21:54] <SlmIcro> anyone here? [21:54] zal (n=autonome@213.254.205.3) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:56] <fake> sure [21:57] <SlmIcro> sup? [21:57] <fake> th: sasl authentication is not compiled into kio_imap4 [21:58] <fake> th: when i try to connect to my imap server [21:58] <fake> th: guess kde isn't too noisy if it can't find sasl... [21:58] <fake> SlmIcro: nothing special [21:59] <SlmIcro> do u use fedora core? [21:59] <fake> i'm in a channel called 'ROCK Linux'. Guess again. [21:59] <SlmIcro> my bad [22:15] Action: fake off, hunting for food [22:21] SlmIcro (n=Stub@cpc3-addl1-3-0-cust96.hers.cable.ntl.com) left irc: [22:27] <th> re [22:27] <th> hmm [22:28] <th> fake: so no release with this revision [23:16] <th> 22:00:24 < fake> th: sasl authentication is not compiled into kio_imap4 [23:16] <th> which pkg is that? [23:16] <th> kmail? [23:16] <th> kdelibs? [23:16] <th> kdepim? [23:47] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:54] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Tue Mar 28 2006