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[02:29] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-109-148.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:29] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [07:09] <netrunner> moin [08:30] <blindcoder> moin [08:45] <netrunner> top - 17:33:43 up 57 days, 1:14, 8 users, load average: 89.98, 66.04, 31.08 [08:45] <netrunner> nice :) [08:45] <blindcoder> o_O [08:45] <blindcoder> rogue processes? [08:46] <netrunner> spamassassin after starting atd last friday [08:47] <blindcoder> hoeh? [08:48] <blindcoder> what does spamassassin do with atd? [08:50] <netrunner> atd sends mails for each job ... [08:55] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [09:12] <blindcoder> so? [09:12] <blindcoder> my spamassassin runs by procmail [09:16] <netrunner> yes, mine also. and it ran for all of the hundreds of mails atd sent after completion. in parallel [09:17] <blindcoder> ah [09:17] Action: netrunner now thinks about running sa as daemon [09:17] <blindcoder> your at jobs [09:17] <netrunner> yes. they were submitted but atd was not running. [09:17] <netrunner> and it ran them all when it was started. [09:17] <blindcoder> what created the at jobs? block.pl? [09:23] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [09:28] <netrunner> blindcoder: yes. [09:31] <blindcoder> heh [09:31] <blindcoder> machines DoS'd: 3 [09:31] <fake> 3225 builds total, 1757 completed fine, 181 with errors. [09:32] <blindcoder> sounds like my generic build here :) [09:32] <fake> alread hit stage9 - many related to missing updated gnome2 packages. [09:33] <fake> or wrongly included kernel header files (config.h et alas) [09:33] <blindcoder> 3227 builds total, 1835 completed fine, 117 with errors. [09:33] <blindcoder> Revision: 7371 [09:33] <fake> blindcoder: you don't have all my update patches from friday applied, do you? [09:33] <fake> ah, ok [09:34] <blindcoder> no, I just want a working overloaded ROCK installation :) [09:34] <blindcoder> as in: build generic, build bootdisk, try to install, try to have fun [09:35] <fake> blindcoder: that will need a little more work (shared files kdelibs <-> hicolor-icon-theme and so) [09:35] <blindcoder> yeah [09:35] <blindcoder> already saw that [09:36] <blindcoder> several of my packages also fail :( [09:36] <blindcoder> acerhk tries to include kernel headers (obviously) [09:36] <fake> is the hicolor-icon-theme still worth anything? [09:37] <blindcoder> other stuff missing cairo in g[dt]k [09:37] <fake> blindcoder: it needs to be patched not to expect them in /usr/include [09:37] <blindcoder> /usr/src/linux/include? [09:37] <fake> blindcoder: no, ./include [09:37] <fake> blindcoder: (i assume it uses kbuild) [09:38] <blindcoder> yeah [09:38] <fake> then the include dir should already be in -I [09:41] <blindcoder> In file included from acerhk.c:38: [09:41] <blindcoder> /usr/include/linux/config.h:1:2: #error "Compilation aborted. Please read the FAQ for linux-libc-headers package." [09:41] <blindcoder> yeah :) [09:41] <fake> blindcoder: uuh [09:41] <fake> blindcoder: what makes a kernel module think it should use /usr/include/{linux,asm} ? [09:41] <fake> weird [09:42] <blindcoder> it checks if the configuration is sane for this module [09:42] <blindcoder> otherwise it exits with #error "<missing kernel configuration options>" [09:42] <fake> blindcoder: linux-libc-headers suggests to create an empty config.h file [09:42] <blindcoder> won't work without patching around acerhk [09:43] <fake> blindcoder: it probably just needs /usr/include removed - or maybe a -nostdinc [09:43] <fake> (though kbuild should pass that) [09:44] <blindcoder> oh, there's more fun: [09:44] <blindcoder> Creating /usr/<..> if required ... [09:44] <blindcoder> awk: cmd. line:1: fatal: cannot open file `/usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h' for reading (No such file or directory) [09:44] <blindcoder> gcc-34 -I/usr/src/linux/include -c -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -o acerhk.o acerhk.c [09:44] <fake> there is no /usr/src/linux [09:45] <blindcoder> doesn't seem to care :) [09:48] <fake> uuuh, make 3.81 makes psmisc fail ;) [10:01] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-042-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:01] <fake> moin daja77 [10:01] <daja77> oin [10:02] <daja77> bl [10:02] <fake> oinbl? [10:02] <fake> ;-) [10:03] <blindcoder> daja77: that's oin'k' [10:04] Action: fake off for a meeting, cya [10:09] <blindcoder> hf [10:26] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-039-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:38] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-042-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:42] ija_ (n=ija@153.242.80.212.versanetonline.de) joined #rocklinux. [10:56] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.84) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:58] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [11:00] <netrunner> we should reconsider the check for kdelibs from kde-3.conf, since artsd is supposed to go away at kde 4 [11:47] <daja77_> re [11:48] <daja77_> i was in a hurry, just turned the machine on again, the girl who stayed here the night didn't like the noise .. [11:51] <blindcoder> girl? do I know her? should I? three sizes? [11:51] <daja77_> yes, no, dunno, dunno [11:52] <blindcoder> damn [11:52] <blindcoder> guess I need to get karo to move to berlin somehow after all :) [12:01] <netrunner> daja77_: [X] upload pix :) [12:35] <netrunner> hm, the kde-i18n is at 3.5.1 [12:41] <daja77_> wtf heise is reporting *today* about the mediawiki security issues? .. [12:42] <blindcoder> yes, why? [12:42] <blindcoder> how old is it? [12:42] <daja77_> days [12:42] <daja77_> # 2006-03-26 [12:43] <blindcoder> heh [12:43] <blindcoder> oh [12:45] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77 [13:08] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [13:26] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [14:03] <clifford> # /bin/ps [14:03] <clifford> Segmentation fault (core dumped) [14:03] <clifford> .. is this bad? [14:03] <clifford> ;-) [14:04] Action: blindcoder throws a coin [14:04] <blindcoder> tails [14:05] <blindcoder> so no [14:05] <clifford> .. that heppens when I build 'ps' with gcc-4.1 [14:05] <clifford> happens [14:07] <blindcoder> more optimisation problems? [14:08] <stf^rocklinux> clifford: happens here, too (with glibc23 and glibc24, build optimized for athlonxp) ... [14:08] <clifford> blindcoder: "-Os -pipe". not more. [14:08] <blindcoder> athlonxp? wasn't that optimisation as buggy as pentium4? [14:09] <blindcoder> heh [14:09] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Config: line 143: enable: dynamic loading not available [14:09] <blindcoder> one of these days I gotta fix that [14:09] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: not that I know of (and I've used it quite some times) [14:13] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: btw. it recently came to my mind that you could use UML to build ROCK on the POWER machine without root privileges :) [14:13] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I don't have any experience with UML right now, but I'd be interested to take a look [14:18] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: in 100 MB? [14:18] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: it's just not nearly enough [14:19] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: you mean you only have 100 MB of disk space on that machine? [14:19] <blindcoder> yes [14:20] <daja77> pretty useles [14:20] <daja77> +s [14:20] <blindcoder> indeed [14:20] <blindcoder> might work for small applications [14:20] <blindcoder> but not for ROCK [14:20] <daja77> for embedded rock perhaps [14:20] Action: blindcoder currently experimenting with upx2 [14:21] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: o_O would using a NFS share be of practical help? [14:21] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: I'm reluctant to open my NFS to the net at large [14:21] <daja77> nfs over inet? [14:22] <daja77> wimp! [14:22] Action: daja77 hides [14:22] <stf^rocklinux> daja: something like that [14:23] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I would do it [14:25] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: or maybe the admins can be talked into giving away a few gigabytes of disk space... [14:25] <stf^rocklinux> :) [14:26] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: gimme your PGP public key then I'll send the login data over [14:26] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: are you sure you are allowed to share the login data? I don't want you to get in trouble [14:27] <blindcoder> you could ask for a login yourself [14:28] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I'll do that. [14:33] <blindcoder> !> WARNING! usr/bin/xterm is NOT linked statically! [14:33] <blindcoder> grmpf [14:46] <stf^rocklinux> "Each time you use or have access to the provided services, you agree to these Terms of Use. Please be aware that these may change without the user being notified." [14:47] <stf^rocklinux> (sic) does that mean I have to read the ToU each time before I log in? ... [14:48] <stf^rocklinux> whatever ^^ [15:27] <daja77> d'oh the shakespeare programming language is abbreviated as spl -.- [15:27] <blindcoder> nothing new [15:28] <blindcoder> IIRC that's even mentioned on clifford.at/spl/ [15:28] <daja77> just figured out while googling for spl stuff [15:30] <stf^rocklinux> bbs [15:34] <netrunner> argl. scripts/Config just replaced my default compiler gcc34 by gcc40 [15:36] <blindcoder> hehe [15:48] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-033-48.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [15:50] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-033-48.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [16:57] <fake> moin [16:58] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i have a big big favour to ask off you [16:59] <fake> stf^rocklinux: could you employ the same uber-leet readelf magic you showed us in mkinitrd in the bootdisk? [17:00] <fake> stf^rocklinux: build_stage2.sh was missing ld-linux.so in a test build of mine lately, because the glibc version of the host system didn't match the bootdisk one [17:01] <th> i thought that was blindys magick [17:01] <fake> th: no, blindy used the same as was in the build_stage2.sh (please correct me if i'm wrong) [17:01] <fake> th: based on ldd [17:02] <th> i see [17:02] <th> i adapted this for my (yet unpublished (due to lack of time)) initramfs creation architecture [17:02] <fake> th: 3225 builds total, 1999 completed fine, 198 with errors. [17:02] <th> 198 with errors. [17:02] <th> ?? [17:02] <th> what the hell [17:02] <fake> th: gnome packages not liking the half-update i did ;) [17:02] <fake> including rebuild errors, btw [17:03] <fake> == 16:07:06 =[9]=> Building gnome2/devhelp [0.8.1 0]. [17:03] <fake> currently building that [17:03] <fake> (it's 17:07, the clock is not yet adopted to summer time) [17:04] <fake> th: also, some packages need to be fixed wrt. to the linux-libc-header changes [17:04] <fake> and quite a few shared files errors [17:05] <fake> th: but none of your packages faild so far ;) [17:05] <th> i have packages? [17:05] <fake> package/teha [17:05] <th> ah oh [17:05] <th> yea [17:05] <fake> acpi e2fsimage fluxbox fmtools grip lighttpd openobex-apps pekwm rescue-stage1-init supertux .svn xosview [17:05] <th> small stuffs [17:05] <th> so many? [17:05] <fake> .svn is a funny name for a package, i admit [17:06] <daja77> fake: yeah one with many maintainers ;) [17:06] <th> i should update pekwm [17:06] <blindcoder> no, it's a multiple package [17:06] <blindcoder> and should therefore be removed according to evil P [17:06] <th> what's fmtools? [17:06] <th> [I] programs for Video for Linux radio cards [17:07] <th> i did not know that [17:07] <th> but e2fsimage rocks!! [17:07] <th> should be really used instead of loopback mounting [17:08] <fake> and nothing important in base failed [17:08] <th> well everything in base should be core [17:08] <blindcoder> you don't know your own packages? [17:08] <fake> Found shared files with other packages: [17:08] <fake> usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/vldXvMC.h: xorg:dev xvmc-wrapper:dev [17:08] <fake> usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so: xorg xvmc-wrapper [17:08] <fake> usr/X11R6/lib/libXvMCW.so.1: xorg xvmc-wrapper [17:08] <th> blindcoder: i propably only forget about them [17:08] <fake> th: it isn't [17:08] <th> fake: that's a bug then [17:09] <fake> th: the big move of packages is still yet to come [17:09] <fake> hm, how could we fix xvmc-wrapper ? [17:13] <daja77> wtf is going on on mozilla.org [17:14] <fake> daja77: post that in a few more channels and it will be down soon ;-)) [17:14] <blindcoder> nothing, why? [17:14] <th> daja77: what's the matter? [17:15] <daja77> they are moving the ff and tb home to mozilla.org, they release mimimo a browser for pocketpcs and i don't find the src ... [17:15] <daja77> stuff like that [17:16] <th> s/org/com/ [17:16] <daja77> erh yep that's what I meant [17:19] <fake> https://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/minimo [17:20] <fake> ;) [17:20] <fake> bottom of the minimo page, "Developer Info" [17:20] <daja77> -.- [17:21] <daja77> would be interesting to port it to the zaurus [17:21] <daja77> to kickout opera [17:22] <blindcoder> hmm [17:22] <blindcoder> what do you guys think? [17:22] <blindcoder> will ECC RAM work in non-ECC slots? [17:23] <fake> honestly, i have no idea. [17:23] <th> depends on the wage [17:24] <blindcoder> wage? [17:24] <th> yea [17:24] <blindcoder> ?? wage [17:24] <th> yea [17:24] <blindcoder> wtf wage [17:25] <fake> i think he said 'wage' [17:25] <th> did i? [17:25] <th> oh yea. [17:25] <fake> wage. [17:25] <blindcoder> and what does he mean by that? [17:25] Action: blindcoder feels like he's being made fun of [17:25] <th> that's still unknown. [17:25] <fake> *gg* [17:26] <fake> it depends on how much you pay the RAM [17:26] <th> blindcoder: would _you_ work in a non-ECC slot? [17:26] <fake> *lol* [17:26] <blindcoder> it gets air conditioning and a lullaby each sunday [17:26] <th> sounds nice [17:26] <blindcoder> th: yes [17:27] <fake> what about the dust? [17:27] <th> how's the wage in there? [17:27] <blindcoder> th: because I usually don't correct my errors :) [17:27] <blindcoder> that's what 'the open source community' is for [17:27] <th> blindcoder: yea - we all know thaty. [17:28] <fake> (i think the extracted information here is: "th has no idea, too") [17:28] <blindcoder> fake: the case is opened every odd year on the 53rd sunday of the year [17:28] <fake> blindcoder: but that's a national holiday in hardware land [17:28] <th> fake: you've exams in some knowledge engineering science? [17:28] <th> fake: you're just too good [17:29] <blindcoder> fake: german word for holiday: feiertag. feier == celebration. I celebrate the holiday by dusting off my hardware [17:29] <fake> th: i invented the word 'good'! [17:29] <blindcoder> speaking of dust in hardware [17:29] <blindcoder> I should dust off the interior of the indigo2 [17:30] <fake> blindcoder: and throw away that harddisk it came with it and put a bigger and faster one in [17:30] <fake> -it [17:30] <blindcoder> heh [17:30] <blindcoder> it's 4GB [17:30] <blindcoder> that's plenty :) [17:30] <th> plenty of space [17:30] <fake> but it's slooooow [17:30] <th> at least our kernel would fit. [17:31] <blindcoder> th: if we squeeze a bit the initrd will sit next to it [17:31] <th> blindcoder: so we should better do root on NFS then [17:31] <blindcoder> *nodnod* [17:31] <blindcoder> anyway [17:31] <blindcoder> there's a card in that looks suspiciously like a serial port [17:32] <blindcoder> and the gfx card is about a kilometer long [17:32] <fake> blindcoder: the serial port is a round one, it's also used for oldworld macs [17:32] <blindcoder> yes [17:32] <blindcoder> and then there's this 9-pin thingie [17:32] <fake> blindcoder: next to the ps2 mouse/kb connectors, iirc [17:33] <blindcoder> as seen on PC hardware [17:33] <fake> blindcoder: whatever it is, i woulnd't plug anything in there before i knew what it was [17:33] <blindcoder> yeah, neither would I [17:33] <fake> blindcoder: i've never heard of a pc-compatible serial port before [17:33] <fake> blindcoder: (for the indigo2) [17:33] <blindcoder> too bad my dad got me a 13w3->vga cable instead of a 13w3->13w3 cable [17:33] <blindcoder> now I can't use this heavy SGI monitor with remote control I had been keeping all these year [17:34] <blindcoder> s [17:34] Action: daja77 connecting to the local quad opteron [17:34] <blindcoder> poser [17:35] <fake> i think with a quad-opteron you're supposed to pose [17:35] <blindcoder> hehe [17:35] <daja77> it isn't mine ;) [17:35] <th> lamer [17:35] <fake> we'll be buying a brand new IBM xSeries 336 exclusively for testing rock builds 8) [17:35] <daja77> hehe [17:35] <blindcoder> schweet [17:36] <fake> (and, of course, for building) [17:37] <blindcoder> that reminds me [17:37] <blindcoder> xterm is still linked dynamically [17:37] <blindcoder> I can't do a lvp release like that [17:43] <th> fake: btw - after upgrading eject i had to setuid it to make the cd-button work [17:44] <th> blindcoder: btw - your user/group manager can't delete users [17:44] <blindcoder> correct [17:44] <blindcoder> it's a feature :) [17:44] <th> i see [17:44] <blindcoder> actually, it's a feature request [17:45] <fake> blindcoder: i'd like to redesign it... [17:45] <th> i'd like to have it redesigned. [17:45] <fake> blindcoder: like it is done in the postgresql stone module [17:46] <fake> the options 'Add User' 'Edit User' 'Remove User' -- 'Add Group' 'Edit Group' 'Remove Group' should be visible first [17:47] <fake> and the user/group list should only be shown in the edit/remove 'submenues' [17:47] <fake> but that's just my opinion [17:47] <th> i second that [17:48] <fake> maybe we should event not show users with a id < 1000 [17:48] <blindcoder> fake: be my guest :) [17:49] <fake> if i want to remove such a user, i either know how to use groupdel/userdel, or i shouldn't be doing it ;) [17:49] <th> "root?" what the heck is that user doing on MY system? [17:49] <blindcoder> hehe [17:49] <fake> th: NOT funny [17:49] <th> fake: NOT? [17:50] <fake> th: no. [17:50] <fake> th: guess what my mom did -_- [17:50] <fake> th: [17:50] <blindcoder> fake: btdt? [17:50] <th> hmm - she made dinner for you? [17:50] <blindcoder> hehe [17:50] <fake> th: "I didn't know all these people, and i didn't want them to read my mails!" [17:50] <th> hehehe [17:52] <daja77> wtf this xeon is doing here [17:53] <daja77> needed 70s to multiply two 500x500 matrices [17:53] <th> i can do better [17:53] <daja77> *gg* [17:54] <daja77> prove it :P [17:54] <th> no [17:54] <fake> xeon - optimized for specInt [17:54] <th> proving takes longer [17:54] <daja77> the quad opteron needed 3s for the same task ;) [17:54] <blindcoder> benchmark optimised [17:55] <fake> hehe, like the ati driver that acted differently if the executable name was 'doom3.exe' [17:55] <blindcoder> https://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,604668,00.jpg [17:55] <blindcoder> hehe [17:55] <blindcoder> fake: o_O [17:56] <blindcoder> yay! [17:56] <blindcoder> -static is enough to link xterm statically [17:58] <fake> n1c3 [18:02] Action: netrunner h0m@ [18:02] <fake> homa? [18:02] <fake> h0m@ s1mpz0n [18:03] <daja77> hm the athlon 650mhz is faster than the xeon O_o [18:03] <blindcoder> pwned! [18:25] Action: fake off to the office again [18:25] <blindcoder> huh? [18:25] <blindcoder> at this time? [18:25] <fake> i worked at home for a few hours [18:25] <blindcoder> it's relaxing time! [18:25] <fake> re-what? [18:25] <fake> ;-) [18:25] <blindcoder> RE-LA-KSU! [18:26] <fake> IIE! [18:26] <blindcoder> it's what a beer, peanuts, anime and a couch are for [18:26] <blindcoder> and a beamer of course :D [18:27] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:53] <fake> re [18:53] <blindcoder> wb, working fake [18:54] <fake> aye! [18:54] <blindcoder> why do you have to be at work at this time, anyway? [18:55] <fake> i don't have to, i just have work to do ;) [18:57] <blindcoder> I see [18:57] <fake> .oO( i like installation guides for hardware that contain cvs checkout instructions for drivers ;) [18:57] <blindcoder> heh [18:59] <blindcoder> I like the things I pointed out above [18:59] <blindcoder> *sigh* [19:00] <blindcoder> kendo training starts right now :( [19:27] <fake> what, you're not going? [19:29] <blindcoder> big fat hematome on the right hip [19:46] SMP (n=stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [20:36] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-033-48.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:45] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-37.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [21:44] <stf^rocklinux> so... booting with initrd fixes the wrong hd* symlinks in /dev here [21:50] SMP (n=stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:45] <fake> stf^rocklinux: there is a patch in submaster already ;-) [22:45] Action: fake off for some sleep [22:45] <daja77> n8 fake [22:46] <stf^rocklinux> fake: yeah, I'll test it asap [22:46] <stf^rocklinux> cu [22:50] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@heim-035-37.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [22:50] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-37.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [23:01] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@heim-035-37.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Tue Apr 4 2006