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[08:30] <blindcoder> moin [09:17] <fake> moin [09:17] <stf^rocklinux> moin [09:18] <fake> stf^rocklinux: did you read my asking you for a favour yesterday? [09:19] <stf^rocklinux> fake: your 'fix boot without initrd' patch works here too :) [09:19] <stf^rocklinux> fake: no... [09:19] <stf^rocklinux> fake: what was it? [09:20] <fake> stf^rocklinux: the build_stage1.sh of the bootdisk uses the ldd mechanism to find dependant libs [09:20] <fake> stf^rocklinux: could you employ the readelf approach there, too? [09:20] <fake> stf^rocklinux: so building cross-compiled bootdisks gets a little easier... [09:21] <stf^rocklinux> fake: yes, can do... sometime afternoon [09:22] <fake> stf^rocklinux: cool [09:23] <stf^rocklinux> fake: someday I'd like to use rockinitrd for bootdisk boot code [09:23] <fake> stf^rocklinux: ack! [09:24] <blindcoder> *ARGH* [09:24] <blindcoder> almost done... have to start over.... *cry* [09:24] <fake> ? [09:24] <blindcoder> fake: work project [09:24] <blindcoder> been almost done with it [09:24] <blindcoder> now noticed that a user has a typo in it [09:24] <blindcoder> and the software is a huge PoS [09:25] <blindcoder> and you can't rename users [09:25] <fake> PoS ? [09:26] <stf^rocklinux> fake: pile of socks, or something ;) [09:26] <stf^rocklinux> I guess [09:26] <blindcoder> Piece of Shit [09:27] <blindcoder> well, I guess I could rename users... [09:27] <blindcoder> with sed -e 's,oldname,newname,g' -i /dev/discs/disc0/disc [09:27] <blindcoder> just a whole day of work >_< [09:36] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: the sed approach sounds feasible (but why over the whole disc?) [09:37] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: three partitions [09:38] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: and I have no clue where windows and oracle and the customer specific application has the username stored [09:38] <blindcoder> anyway [09:38] <blindcoder> dd has already started [09:58] <stf^rocklinux> <- afk [10:31] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-041-124.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:40] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-039-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:41] <netrunner> fake: don't you think that sysfiles would be a better place for device nodes? [10:49] <fake> netrunner: i'm not sure [10:49] <fake> netrunner: but i'd be happy to see a compelling patch [11:02] <blindcoder> say [11:02] <blindcoder> is there a way to get a sufficiently unique id under linux? [11:02] <blindcoder> something like suns hostid? [11:03] <blindcoder> (no, the hostid program from coreutils fails) [11:03] <netrunner> blindcoder: what do you mean with 'fails'? fails your requirements? [11:07] <blindcoder> yes [11:07] <blindcoder> in my case it returns the eth0 IP address as hex value [11:07] <blindcoder> which isn't sufficiently unique for my case [11:13] <blindcoder> netrunner: on my laptop it even just returns '0' [11:28] <fake> blindcoder: unique as to what? [11:29] <netrunner> blindcoder: seems to be design that it tries to return ip adress of default route or so. [11:32] <blindcoder> I want to have an opt-in method in LVP for giving feedback as to how many LVP disks one has created [11:32] <blindcoder> so that I have a vague understanding if anyone beside me even uses this stuff :) [11:33] <blindcoder> within that option I want to have a method to add the disk to a unique ID _or_ optionally an anonymous 'catchall' ID [11:33] <blindcoder> in the form [11:34] <blindcoder> curl https://lvp.crash-override.net/count.php?id=foo [11:34] <netrunner> blindcoder: are you now a fan of M$ techniques? [11:35] <blindcoder> *sigh* [11:35] <blindcoder> I knew I shouldn't have mentioned it here [11:35] <blindcoder> netrunner: what part of "opt-in" didn't you understand? [11:35] <netrunner> blindcoder: what do you need the id for? [11:36] <blindcoder> to shut out stuff like 'while : ; do curl ... ; done' a bit more easily [11:36] <netrunner> blindcoder: wonderful. I then just put a random thing there. [11:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: better just check for source ip. [11:37] <blindcoder> forget that I ever said anything, okay? [11:37] <blindcoder> I'll just do something else [11:37] <blindcoder> like ramming my head against a wall [11:37] <netrunner> blindcoder: ey, I give constructive comments. [11:38] <blindcoder> constructive with bashings [11:38] <netrunner> no. I just said it's useless for the sake of preventing multiple submissions. [11:38] <netrunner> you need a check on the server side that cannot be influenced by the client. [11:39] <blindcoder> that's easy [11:39] <netrunner> I had this when I made a small comment form with voting on easterhegg in munich. [11:39] <blindcoder> since it takes time to create a LVP, there can't be more than one submission every 3-4 minutes [11:39] <blindcoder> _but_ [11:40] <blindcoder> source IP doesn't suffice [11:40] <blindcoder> two machines, one NAT router [11:40] <netrunner> you always have the proxy problem. [11:40] <netrunner> how big is the chance that a big company has d100 dedicated employees just for building LVP? :) [11:41] Action: blindcoder looks around [11:41] Action: blindcoder counts [11:41] <blindcoder> 4 machines :) [11:41] <netrunner> but one user. [11:41] <blindcoder> :( [11:42] <netrunner> you can use the client ip if it is available, together with the proxy ip. [11:42] <netrunner> but then it will be compromisable again :) [11:44] <blindcoder> it needn't be watertight [11:45] <netrunner> so just use remote_ip :) [11:45] <netrunner> waterproof :) [11:45] <fake> cpuid? [11:45] <fake> motherboard serial? [11:46] <netrunner> fake: all this would be client-supplied and could be fake'd. [11:46] <blindcoder> fake: how to read using bash? [11:47] <fake> netrunner: it's opt in. if you want something unfakeable, it gets much more complicated. [11:47] <fake> blindcoder: lshw or so? /sys entries maybe [11:48] Action: blindcoder goes looking [11:49] <netrunner> fake: he just want's it to be able to count and avoid duplicates. [11:49] <fake> you could md5 that, then it's somehow more anonymous [11:50] <blindcoder> hmm [11:50] <blindcoder> ( cpuid ; hostid ) | md5sum [11:50] <blindcoder> should suffice [11:51] <netrunner> cool. https://ledlamp.aquaphoenix.com/hardware/ledlamp/index.html [11:55] <blindcoder> o_O [11:55] <blindcoder> wow [11:57] <netrunner> blindcoder: build it for me! please! :) [11:59] <blindcoder> no [12:01] <netrunner> :( [12:17] <blindcoder> https://lvp.crash-override.net/latest.txt [12:17] <blindcoder> checking for current version != running version should be enough for a check [12:45] <blindcoder> okay [12:45] <blindcoder> machine reinstalled [12:45] <blindcoder> 3 hours [12:45] <blindcoder> I'm too good [12:46] <fake> blindcoder: i want that lamp! [12:46] <blindcoder> fake: not only you [12:47] <daja77_> the java lamp? [13:33] <stf^rocklinux> re [14:07] <fake> https://eh.cngw.org/ [14:08] <blindcoder> hehe [14:08] <fake> they honestly expect me to pay 50 EUR without telling me what's in the package. [14:09] <blindcoder> well, I also never knew what was in my "osternest" :) [14:11] <daja77_> fake: i got no reply for my subscription .. [14:11] <fake> daja77_: this sucks [14:11] <fake> daja77_: i just wrote a reply to the 'official registration page announcement' [14:12] <daja77_> ack [14:24] <fake> Vortraege wird ebenfalls oeffentlich im FLUC Beisl stattfinden - dafuer [14:24] <fake> muss niemand etwas zahlen. Der Eintritt bezieht sich auf den geschlossenen [14:24] <fake> Bereich, [14:24] <fake> arghl [14:25] <clifford> fake: yo! [14:25] Action: clifford reading your mails on the CNGW list. [14:27] <fake> clifford: hi ;) [14:27] <fake> i'm a bit confused. [14:28] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77 [14:28] <clifford> I sent a simmilar mail two days ago on the cngw members-only list [14:28] <fake> no reply? [14:28] <clifford> alsmot the same thing. 'program will be online in a few days, bla, bla, bla' [14:29] <blindcoder> !> usr/bin/superkaramba: kdeutils superkaramba [14:29] <blindcoder> sweet [14:29] <clifford> but they told me at the 'chaostreff' last week that they finalized the program already.. [14:29] <clifford> .. maybe they need to write a pentabarf 'schitzeljagd' export function first. [14:29] <clifford> ;-) [14:29] <daja77> :D [14:30] <fake> seems like i'll not be going to easterhack for another year. [14:30] Action: fake sticks to his habits [14:33] <netrunner> hehe, some guy of a company we buy $bigstorage from just went through the office and distributed easter eggs [14:34] <blindcoder> good ones? [14:34] <blindcoder> with 20 leds and 15 buttons? [14:34] <fake> or nougat? [14:35] <netrunner> no, in fact it was those well known ones with tension, fun and chocolate. [14:36] <blindcoder> well [14:36] <blindcoder> not the worst chocolate in existance [14:36] <blindcoder> but there's definately better [14:36] <blindcoder> damn, what's up with the weather today? [14:37] <blindcoder> lightning, thunder, "hagel", rain, now it's sunny again [14:37] <fake> it's april [14:38] <blindcoder> obviously [14:41] <clifford> afk. [15:33] <th> *yawn* [15:33] <th> what's with the weather? [15:34] <th> it's perfect [15:34] <fake> th: moin! [15:34] <th> ;-) [15:36] <fake> th: feel like comitting some stuff? [15:39] <th> fake: is there some journal open from my side? [15:40] <th> mutt [15:40] <th> uh [15:40] <th> bad mouse [15:50] <fake> th: i don't know - if not, i'd commit the following journal: [15:50] <th> fake: i'm pretty sure there's nothing pending from my side [15:55] Action: fake searching [15:56] <th> i committed my last journal [15:57] <th> fake: btw - do we want to make eject setuid, so that it works from within kde? [15:59] <fake> th: https://f4k3.net/~fake/journal.txt [15:59] <fake> th: i would apply this [15:59] <fake> th: setgid disk [16:02] <fake> th: objections? [16:02] <th> looks nice [16:02] <th> it's a big one [16:03] <fake> many small updates [16:03] <fake> i left the gnome one out [16:03] <fake> except for daja's cairo patch [16:03] <fake> *update [16:03] <daja77> it is compatible [16:05] <th> fake: would you add some eject setgid? [16:06] <daja77> this cluster is really weird [16:07] <daja77> now playing with the itanium2 [16:08] <th> daja77: talking of that quad? [16:09] <fake> th: either send a patch or it's in the next journal [16:09] <daja77> this is a mixed cluster, there are xeon nodes, the quad opteron, one itanium2 smp and ultrasparcs [16:10] <th> daja77: you dont have - by accident - knowledge about xenability? [16:10] <th> fake: i'm sort of "out of town" until thursday [16:10] <daja77> th: huh? [16:11] <th> daja77: i'm seeking a SMP machine for xen hosts [16:13] <daja77> ic [16:14] <daja77> no idea, haven't used xen yet [16:14] <fake> th: what's up? holidays? [16:14] <fake> vacation? [16:14] <fake> secret 2nd wife? [16:15] <daja77> just convert to the right religion and it doesn't have to be a secret ;) [16:16] <fake> man convert [16:16] <fake> (you can even convert to PDF or FAX!) [16:16] <fake> i want a file format that uses .god [16:16] <fake> gems on drugs [16:16] <th> fake: no business [16:16] <daja77> I am a true believer in FAX [16:17] <fake> th: so you're gonna relax? [16:17] <fake> daja77: my religion, SMTP, is in a great war with FAX [16:17] <th> fake: i meant: no. it's business. [16:17] <fake> th: ah, ok. [16:17] <fake> th: interesting business? [16:17] <th> fake: nope. not at all. [16:17] <fake> :( [16:18] <th> fake: well ok. cote d'azur ain't too bad [16:18] <fake> o_O [16:18] <fake> wtf? [16:18] <fake> did i miss some porn conference? [16:19] <th> hehe [16:19] <daja77> fake: have you've been to any? ;) [16:19] <fake> *whistles* [16:19] <fake> you should really try crackattack if you don't know it yet [16:20] <daja77> ah yeah read the patch, wanted to try yesterday but forgot about it [16:21] <daja77> fake: that one? https://aluminumangel.org/attack/screen_shot_0.jpg [16:21] <th> where is the "buy button" for the led lamp? [16:22] <fake> th: :( nowhere [16:22] <th> sucks [16:22] <fake> daja77: ack [16:23] <daja77> hm perhaps we should try that https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/71643 [16:26] <fake> ththththat's it [16:50] <netrunner> fake: do you have a relatively new build? [16:50] <netrunner> fake: could you pls verify that scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg <foo> -newdelete -dry-run works? [16:51] <netrunner> (it lists almost all packages to me) [16:52] <fake> netrunner: yes, wait [16:57] <blindcoder> hmm [16:57] <blindcoder> 5.1 sound is more fun than I thought :) [16:58] <fake> really? what do you do? [16:58] <blindcoder> p0rn flicks with surround sound :) [16:58] <fake> i got it working with alsa once, but never used it afterwards due to lack of media [16:58] <fake> URL ? ;-) [17:00] <daja77> O_o [17:01] <blindcoder> not that I'm gonna use it much [17:01] <blindcoder> but it's just nice to have :) [17:02] <fake> hm, i thought about it back then, but i couldn't find any obvious use cases [17:03] <fake> maybe something like 'rock speech output plugin on the rear speakers, tv on the front' [17:03] <fake> but that's about it (i tried it and it was most disturbing) [17:04] <daja77> wow one guy consumed 40.000 ecstasy pills [17:05] <fake> define 'pill' [17:06] <daja77> small round thingie ... [17:07] <daja77> 40.000 in his whole life, about 25/day [17:07] <blindcoder> an gudan :) [17:07] <blindcoder> an guadn :) [17:07] <fake> boy... [17:08] <stf^rocklinux> bbs, installing topic crystal... [17:09] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-37.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [17:11] Action: blindcoder booting windows to play a game [17:17] <fake> which game [17:17] <fake> ? [17:18] <fake> netrunner: no output in a fresh build here [17:18] <fake> s/in/for/ [17:20] <blindcoder> sudeki [17:20] <fake> what's that? [17:21] <fake> (i'm not surprised it sounds asian ;) [17:22] <blindcoder> rpg [17:22] <blindcoder> got it for 10 eur in the bargain bin [17:23] <fake> blindcoder: do you recommend it ? [17:23] Action: fake would enjoy a new rpg [17:23] <fake> neverwinter night was long time ago... [17:23] <blindcoder> can't say yet [17:23] <fake> *nigths [17:23] <blindcoder> just starting :) [17:23] <blindcoder> well [17:23] <blindcoder> it doesn't seem to understand my dvorak keyboard [17:24] <blindcoder> so that's a point off for now [17:24] <fake> .oO(nobody does) [17:24] <daja77> hehe [17:24] <blindcoder> fake: if I press ' and it reads q then it's obviously doing nasty stuff [17:25] <fake> blindcoder: not if your ' is on the key where the q usually lives ;) [17:26] <blindcoder> :P [17:30] <blindcoder> nice fighting system [17:31] <blindcoder> like star ocean second story [17:31] <blindcoder> just in good :) [17:49] <blindcoder> Habe Panzer, habe Schwert, kaempfe gern. Fehlen nur Aklorier zum Toeten. [17:50] <fake> o_O? [17:50] <blindcoder> quote from the game [17:50] Action: fake will not share his associations with the name "Aklorier" [18:11] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-035-57.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [18:11] <stf^rocklinux> re [18:14] <stf^rocklinux> someone knows how to allow a local user to connect to the local X server? [18:15] <stf^rocklinux> I've installed xorg 6.9.0, and ran 'startx' as user (as usual) and I get an X server, but no K desktop... [18:15] <stf^rocklinux> and the X server output says: AUDIT ... X: client 1 rejected from local host [18:16] <stf^rocklinux> Xlib: connection to "0:0" refused by server [18:18] <stf^rocklinux> hmm, replaced the users home directory and now it works... [18:19] stf^rocklinux (n=root@heim-035-57.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left #rocklinux. [18:19] <daja77> stf^rocklinux: xhost + localhost [18:20] <fake> stf^rocklinux: the xauth-cookies reside in the user's home directory [18:20] <fake> daja77: we're talking to dead people [18:20] <daja77> yeah they don't complain ;) [18:21] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-57.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [18:33] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [18:33] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:37] <fake> hm, all the downloads for cliffords updates fail :( [18:42] <fake> err [18:42] <fake> w3m sf.net: 500 - Internal Server Error [18:44] <stf^rocklinux> fake: what's the download address? [18:45] <fake> stf^rocklinux: it seems more like a network problem here [18:45] treo (n=xfman@L0436.l.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:45] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i can download it from another machine [18:52] <fake> grrrr.... [18:52] <fake> damn sf [19:08] Action: fake just added the ip of mesh.dl.sf.net to /etc/hosts for dl.sf.net and voila... [19:18] <daja77> hehe [20:16] <blindcoder> fake: okay, sudeki is good :) [20:16] <blindcoder> even though the savepoint thingie is bad :( [20:21] <blindcoder> it has tigergirls :) [20:27] <fake> == 04/04/06 20:25:23 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc23. [20:27] <fake> wee! [20:27] <fake> (ppc) [20:27] <fake> blindcoder: *harrr* [20:38] <stf^rocklinux> fake: do you want the bootdisk/initrd patch now or after I've tested it (in ~ 2 hours)? [20:38] <fake> stf^rocklinux: take your time [20:39] <stf^rocklinux> fake: I basically copied blocks of mkinitrd to build_stage1.sh ... [20:39] <fake> stf^rocklinux: perfect... if you wouldn't mind testing it, that would be great [20:40] <stf^rocklinux> fake: I don't mind... [20:43] <stf^rocklinux> fake: so latest test release works here. do you see any obvious bugs that should be fixed before a release? [20:48] <stf^rocklinux> bbl [20:48] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-57.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [20:54] <fake> stf^rocklinux: the alsa-driver package must be removed [21:19] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [21:41] markuman (n=markuman@dslb-084-063-167-133.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. 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