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[00:01] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:09] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54994AC1.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [02:17] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-032-123.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:19] ija_ (n=ija@84.19.223.146) joined #rocklinux. [02:29] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-032-123.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:36] ija (n=ija@84.19.223.130) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:43] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-099-252.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:52] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-108-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:52] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [07:04] <blindcoder> moin [08:40] <netrunner> moinmoin [09:22] <th> netrunner: https://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/2-gcc40.log [09:22] <th> netrunner: do you see these errors here? [09:24] <netrunner> th: yes [09:24] <netrunner> th: just search for ignored [09:26] <th> i see [09:26] <th> seems to be a staged build [09:26] <th> but later the `cc1obj` is built without problems [09:27] <blindcoder> hmm [09:27] <blindcoder> any suggestions on this: [09:28] <blindcoder> aes encryption wants a passphrase 16 <= length <= 32 [09:28] <blindcoder> what to do with passphrases that don't fall into this length? [09:28] <blindcoder> discard? hash? [09:29] <blindcoder> ask for a new one? [09:31] <netrunner> the later [09:31] <blindcoder> ask once more? [09:31] <netrunner> yes [09:32] <blindcoder> okay [09:32] <netrunner> blindcoder: if you create a hash that is longer than its input you reduce security :) [09:33] <netrunner> (because there are multiple short inputs for the same hash) [09:33] <netrunner> on the other hand, longer input does not add extra security [09:37] <blindcoder> netrunner: but it increases its memorability [09:37] <blindcoder> if it's a long phrase that you can easily remember, for example [09:42] <netrunner> jup. does not hurt. [11:16] <blindcoder> daja77: haha, php 5.1.4 :D [12:00] <blindcoder> so, anyone know which kernelmodule I need for /dev/vc/* [12:00] <blindcoder> ? [12:15] <netrunner> so, finished shopping. I hope the part's won't be baked in my car until tonight :/ [12:18] <blindcoder> hehe [12:18] Action: blindcoder adds some extra degrees to wherever netrunner may be [12:46] Action: netrunner feels tempted to drive home in the break [12:48] <th> blindcoder: i always have virtual consoles built-in [12:50] <daja77> grrrr [12:52] <daja77> *shrug* that's just a bugfix release ;) [12:56] <daja77> argh my last advisory was not send because the mailer daemon had no space left on device >_< [13:02] Action: daja77 pokes clifford [13:03] <blindcoder> th: same here [13:03] <blindcoder> th: but I don't have the /dev/ nodes [13:03] <blindcoder> for nothing, it seems [13:03] <daja77> can anyone mail to rock-user? [13:04] <blindcoder> anyone know how I can tell perl -MCPAN to install a specific version of a module? [13:06] Action: netrunner trying to add sdhci patches ... [13:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: I remember I had this issue once ... I am trying to remember what it was... [13:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: iirc it was something unrelated. [13:08] <netrunner> maybe udevd not startet and the udevstart magic not run? [13:20] <blindcoder> netrunner: udev 090, udevd --daemon ; udevtrigger ; udevmonitor [13:20] <blindcoder> no /dev/ nodes created :( [13:25] <netrunner> what is udevtrigger? [13:26] <netrunner> is sysfs mounted at that point? [13:27] <blindcoder> udevtrigger is what is supposed to make the 'find /sys -name uevent...' obsolete [13:27] <blindcoder> yes [13:34] <netrunner> 2002-12-30: 23:12 < th> ak|ra: sounds like missing virtual console support in kernel [13:34] <th> "ak|ra"? [13:35] <th> uhhh 2002 [13:35] <th> blindcoder: is that problem specific to virtual console nodes? [13:35] <th> blindcoder: or do you have no nodes at all? [13:35] <th> blindcoder: is /dev mounted? [13:36] <netrunner> blindcoder: at what point do you notice that problem? [13:36] <daja77> damn forked packages [13:45] <blindcoder> th: I don't have any nodes [13:46] <th> blindcoder: so you should not care about missing /dev/vc/ and searching the module for it. [13:46] <blindcoder> netrunner: at the point that init is killed because it can't run agetty on /dev/vc/0 [13:46] <th> blindcoder: what does your boot look like? [13:46] <blindcoder> th: I have the same problem with udev 088 and trying the old find /sys thing [13:47] <th> kernel commandline initrd etc [13:47] <th> i'd say this is not udev related [13:47] <blindcoder> th: lvp [13:47] <blindcoder> th: just the kernel and its initrd [13:47] <blindcoder> the initrd runs: [13:47] <blindcoder> hwscan | sh [13:47] <blindcoder> wait [13:47] <blindcoder> first it mounts filesystems [13:47] <th> wait how long? [13:47] <blindcoder> /dev, /sys, /tmp and /proc [13:48] <blindcoder> then it runs [13:48] <blindcoder> hwscan | sh [13:48] <blindcoder> then [13:48] <blindcoder> udevd --daemon [13:48] <blindcoder> udevtrigger [13:48] <blindcoder> udevmonitor [13:48] <blindcoder> then it runs agetty [13:48] <blindcoder> that's where the kernel panics [13:48] <th> you should replace udevmonitor with udevsettle [13:48] <blindcoder> from hwscan to agetty takes the blink of an eye [13:48] <blindcoder> ... [13:49] Action: blindcoder suddenly feels stupid [13:49] <th> your eyes are just too slow for your machine [13:49] <blindcoder> will do when I'm home and at the build machine again [13:52] <daja77> should I commit 2006050413514174780 too? [13:52] <th> if it's a bugfix release to the security release [13:52] <th> then it's security concern [13:53] <daja77> well no, 5.1.3 has no security problem, it is just not working properly ;) [13:53] <daja77> but i'll do no harm if i commit it [13:53] <daja77> Apache/2.0.55 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a DAV/2 PHP/5.1.4 <- it works at least ;) [13:54] <th> it's a user-repo only [13:54] <daja77> ok [13:54] <daja77> but iirc it is core [13:54] <th> is it core? [13:54] <th> oh it is [13:54] <th> so it should be moved to base [13:54] <th> this sucks [13:54] <daja77> yep [13:55] <th> no no no no [13:55] <th> we should not move every core package to base [13:55] <daja77> hm? [13:55] <th> that totally sucks [13:55] <daja77> it does [13:55] <th> the vote-pattern should see the CORE flag instead [13:55] <daja77> i'll just commit it without moving for a start ... [13:58] <th> categories / repositories / flags / maintainers / vote-patterns [13:59] <daja77> th: do you know if rock-user works again? [13:59] <th> it did not? [14:00] <daja77> no my announcement for php bounced due full harddiscs on the server [14:02] <th> atm there is no full harddisk on server [14:03] <th> daja77: you still cant mark patches in submaster applied? [14:04] <daja77> i can [14:04] <daja77> i am just in submaster and wondering why the php 5.1.3 update is listed twice there with different ids? [14:06] <th> daja77: the rock-user works. [14:06] <daja77> goof [14:06] <daja77> good [14:06] <daja77> so I'll resend [15:06] <netrunner> if I echo something in pkg_linux_pre.conf, it comes to the build console ... how to fix that? [15:07] <th> dont echo anything [15:07] <th> exec > /dev/null [15:08] <netrunner> well, I don't echo, patch writes to stdout. [15:09] <th> < th> exec > /dev/null [15:09] <netrunner> th: but how to get something into the build log? shouldn't that be redirected there? [15:11] <th> i think that's what stdout is for [15:11] <netrunner> maybe I should add what I do in the pre.conf to hooks? [15:18] <netrunner> ah, it partially is ... [15:20] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-1a33adcfeb5f66f1) joined #rocklinux. [15:20] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:21] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [19:15] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [21:12] <stf^rocklinux> <netrunner> th: but how to get something into the build log? shouldn't that be redirected there? [21:12] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: I think echo_status can be used for that [21:32] SteffenP (i=steffen@p549979C1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. 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