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[00:02] <netrunner> re
[00:19] <netrunner> rockinitrd creation is broken if creation of initrd is used for not running kernel version
[00:20] <netrunner> at least the version that resides on my laptop.
[00:20] <netrunner> which seems to be as in trunk (20050720)
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[07:44] <blindcoder> moin
[07:45] <blindcoder> netrunner: broken as in?
[09:17] <th> netrunner: so use/test my mkinitramfs i could have use for some feedback
[09:17] <blindcoder> netrunner: btw, 20050720 can mean anything from 20th july 2005 to yesterday
[09:18] <blindcoder> netrunner: since everyone forgot to update the version tag (myself included)
[09:35] <daja77_> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/72731 ...
[09:38] <esden> moin
[09:40] <blindcoder> moin moin esden, daja77_ 
[09:41] <blindcoder> daja77_: well, good news, isn't it?
[09:47] <daja77_> yeah ..
[09:47] <daja77_> bbl
[09:49] <netrunner> blindcoder: I run 2.6.14 and say mkinitrd 2.6.16.9 ... many errors of 'cp .: file not found'
[09:49] <netrunner> (or similar)
[09:50] <blindcoder> interesting
[09:51] <blindcoder> can you please open a bugreport (including complete output of mkinitrd 2.6.16.9) and assign it to me?
[09:53] <netrunner> blindcoder: I think you can try it yourself easily, just call it for an installed kernel which is not running.
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[10:01] Action: netrunner decided to use $topic as starting point for the new pc
[10:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: haven't got any machine handy to test it on before the weekend
[10:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: if you don't want me to forget it, open a bug report
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[10:56] <blindcoder> netrunner: thanks
[11:47] <daja77_> hrhr new kernel
[11:52] <blindcoder> took them long enough :P
[11:54] <daja77_> yeah
[12:21] <th> var_remove confopt " " "CC=gcc"
[12:21] <th> var_remove confopt " " "CXX=g++"
[12:21] <th> will that work?
[12:22] <daja77_> i don't think so
[12:22] <th> configure: warning: CC=gcc: invalid host type
[12:22] <th> configure: warning: CXX=g++: invalid host type
[12:22] <th> configure: running /bin/sh './configure' ....... '--host=i586-unknown-linux-gnu' 'CC=gcc' 'CXX=g++' 'build_alias=i586-unknown-linux-gnu' ......
[12:22] <th> of cause the warnings come after the configure line
[12:23] <daja77_> which package does that?
[12:23] <th> centericq when updating to 4.20.0
[12:23] <th> centericq when updating to 4.21.0
[12:23] <daja77_> kick them!
[12:23] <daja77_> if at all it'll work like that
[12:23] <th> i dont wanna talk to them
[12:23] <daja77_> CC=gcc ./configure --foo
[12:23] <th> i dont even use that crappy software
[12:24] <th> but rock is calling the configure like i pasted above
[12:24] <th> oh
[12:24] <th> no
[12:24] <th> that's a subdir's configure
[12:24] <th> they stink
[12:24] <daja77_> ack
[12:25] Action: blindcoder hints at licq and bitlbee
[12:25] <th> blindcoder: _you_ dont need to put _me_ to use bitlbee. i was the one hinting you at it.
[12:25] <blindcoder> hehe :)
[12:25] <daja77_> :D
[12:26] <blindcoder> so why are you fscking around with centericq?
[12:26] <th> because i'm supporting users?
[12:26] <blindcoder> oh, yeah... that...
[12:26] <daja77_> and has a great heart ^^
[12:26] <th> yea ;)
[12:26] <th> well
[12:26] <th> actually it's a co-worker
[12:26] <th> and i want to paste him some bugs
[12:26] <th> of him
[12:26] <blindcoder> I've been busy not to kill a cow-orker yesterday and today
[12:27] <th> cow-orker.. 
[12:27] <th> i like that
[12:27] <blindcoder> well, he's not as bad as schilling... but he's going down the same path
[12:27] <daja77_> lol
[12:27] <daja77_> you like him ^^
[12:27] <blindcoder> a lot...
[12:28] <th> as you like udev
[12:28] <blindcoder> yesterday he insisted on telling me the details about how our company's mailserver is loaded with spam and newsletters
[12:28] <blindcoder> _after_ we agreed to use a procmail script instead of manipulating the aliases file on-the-fly
[12:29] <daja77_> oh you get spam? what a surprise ..
[12:29] <blindcoder> oh, and he used no less than 5 minutes to tell me again and again that I should use 'mysqldump' and not 'some other crappy 3rd-party software'
[12:29] <daja77_> O_o
[12:29] <blindcoder> and all that after he has been unable to get request tracker to run on a SuSE machine FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS!
[12:30] <blindcoder> I got it up and in production on a ROCK machine in a few free afternoons
[12:31] <th> rt?
[12:31] <blindcoder> and then he comes complaining to _me_ that he has racked up a large bill of worktime for installing the machine and that we could have bought 'professional service' to set it up
[12:31] <th> rt3?
[12:31] <blindcoder> th: yeah
[12:31] <th> blindcoder: that was very easy.
[12:31] <blindcoder> th: YES
[12:31] <th> blindcoder: you needed multiple afternoons?
[12:31] <th> blindcoder: you used apache?
[12:31] <blindcoder> th: about 2 hours an afternoon :)
[12:31] <blindcoder> yeah, but back then mod_perl was at 2.0.0-rc3
[12:32] <th> yea - i went the lighttpd way
[12:32] <blindcoder> had a few problems with perl, mod_perl and mason
[12:32] <blindcoder> but hey, I sent him detailed instructions what software, what version and what configuration to install
[12:33] <blindcoder> well, he listened on the software part, insisted on installed the newest versions and probably didn't even look at the config files I sent him
[12:33] <blindcoder> at least that's the impression I get
[12:33] <blindcoder> new I used the better part of yesterday's workday to fix the installation (which now works)
[12:34] <blindcoder> and this morning to write a procmail script to route mails to rt-mailgate without having to fuck with the aliases file (or ldap data in this case)
[12:36] <blindcoder> (to be put up at shellscripts.org early next week)
[12:58] Action: netrunner now installed debian
[13:00] <blindcoder> umm... why?
[13:00] <netrunner> no rock lying around.
[13:01] Action: netrunner is impressed by the installer
[13:01] Action: blindcoder points netrunner to /topic
[13:01] <netrunner> my only {c,dv}d-writer is in the new pc. and I wanted to test it anyway.
[13:02] <netrunner> I have a lvm now with lv's for several linux distributions
[13:02] <blindcoder> ah
[13:02] <blindcoder> write a lvm plugin for rockinitrd :)
[13:02] <netrunner> ´I mainly wonder why win xp hangs when loading its setup ...
[13:03] <netrunner> blindcoder: do you have a geforce and had such an event? I heard there might be a relation with the geforce ...
[13:04] <th> netrunner: or use the already existing lvm-mechanism for mkinitramfs
[13:38] <blindcoder> th: do you want mkinitramfs in rock?
[13:40] <blindcoder> whoops, one little bug left in that script :)
[13:41] <th> blindcoder: sure
[13:46] <blindcoder> th: https://shellscripts.org/project/rtqueues
[13:47] <blindcoder> th: maybe you should post the code to the mailinglist then. I know I said I'd look into integrating initramfs support into rockinitrd, but I don't know when I'll have time to do so
[14:00] <netrunner> hehe, cd-change trick I knew from old playstation times works for xp setup :)
[14:02] <blindcoder> hm?
[14:11] <netrunner> xp with sp2 hangs during loading of setup. original xp does not. but my original xp is en
[14:12] <netrunner> so I switched after loading setup :) unfortunately it hung while formatting then :)
[14:13] <blindcoder> netrunner: so what's this got to do with playstaition?
[14:18] <netrunner> it was possible to run burned games if you used the bootloader of an original and then switch cd's at the right moment
[14:27] <blindcoder> heh
[14:42] <netrunner> hm, maybe I should't have used the broken hdd :/
[14:42] <netrunner> oh, vista download, maybe I'll try that?
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[16:14] <daja77_> oh mnemoc is back online ;)
[16:21] <blindcoder> suse just sent 4 security bulletins for php4
[16:21] <daja77_> yeah
[16:21] <daja77_> is anyone still using php4?
[16:23] <blindcoder> I think we still have it packaged
[16:24] <daja77_> yes
[16:25] <th> there is something newer than php3?
[16:27] <blindcoder> php3 is a rumor
[16:27] <daja77_> oh i forgot that th has a faible for things from the past
[16:28] <blindcoder> hehehe
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[23:59] <codevoid> hi
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