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[01:35] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [01:49] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:50] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-106-134.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:56] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-105-249.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:56] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [07:01] <blindcoder> moin [07:33] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) got netsplit. [07:44] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) got lost in the net-split. [07:56] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [08:40] <netrunner> moin [08:44] <[raphael]> moin [08:59] Pilot (n=pilot@212.48.133.193) joined #rocklinux. [09:09] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-035-130.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:17] <blindcoder> 100 builds total, 78 completed fine, 0 with errors. [09:17] <blindcoder> 22 builds to go until next LVP release :) [09:17] <esden> moin [09:18] <blindcoder> moin moin [09:18] <esden> blindcoder: do you know anything about not working imap before smtp on pallas? [09:19] <blindcoder> esden: yes, it's been a bit jumpy [09:19] <blindcoder> but I don't know why [09:20] <blindcoder> it should work, in theory [09:21] <blindcoder> Mon May 15 09:13:49 2006: updating 10.0.0.2: Mon May 15 09:28:49 2006 [09:21] <esden> blindcoder: humm ... yesterday my parents could not send anything outside of pallas ... "relay denied" [09:21] <blindcoder> esden: did you try cleaning /etc/postfix/network_table and restarting /root/popb4smtp.pl ? [09:22] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-035-130.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:22] <esden> blindcoder: nope [09:23] <blindcoder> will do now [09:23] <esden> blindcoder: there are two popb4smtp.pl running [09:23] <esden> is it normal? [09:24] <blindcoder> yes [09:24] <blindcoder> it forks [09:24] <blindcoder> esden: okay, I restarted it [09:24] <blindcoder> esden: 10.0.0.2 is back in relay again already [09:27] <blindcoder> brb, switching workstations [09:45] <esden> woot ... MBP 17" ordered ;) [09:46] <th> does it have vanderpool? [09:46] <esden> th: ?o_O? [09:47] <th> esden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderpool [09:57] <esden> th: AFAIK the processor has the capability ... but OS X does not support it yet ... but it is expected that it will be supported in the next major release of OS X [09:57] <blindcoder> OSXI? [09:58] <th> yes i know. it was somehow announced for 10.5 [09:58] <esden> th: ack [09:58] <th> was there a date? [09:58] <esden> blindcoder: no 10.5 [09:59] <esden> aka Leopard [10:30] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [10:36] <blindcoder> th: could you please apply 2006051209001920431 and 2006050708485389050? [10:37] <th> 2006051209001920431 ist something i want/need to test before applying it. [10:38] <th> blindcoder: did you test 2006050708485389050? basically this is how do it in initramfs and that is tested. [10:39] <blindcoder> th: yes. it boots fine on my test-machine and I also use this method now in LVP [10:40] <blindcoder> I did not - however - test it with my laptop (wireless LAN firmware stuff) [10:40] <th> ok. i think that's enough testing (from your side and my side) for the latter. [10:40] <blindcoder> th: btw, /dev/cdrom not being there was because of 2006051215313077940 [10:41] <th> because of that patch? [10:42] <th> or because of something, which this patch fixes? [10:42] <th> i dont really like that patch because it drives us further away from posix [10:42] <blindcoder> th: because of something that patch fixes [10:43] <blindcoder> th: ehm, no? [10:43] <blindcoder> th: read var < file [10:43] <blindcoder> th: that works in /bin/sh, too [10:43] <th> ahhh [10:43] <th> missread [10:43] <th> sorry i read it as <<< [10:43] <blindcoder> or at least that's what I'm being told on comp.unix.shell [10:43] <th> but it's a simple < [10:43] <th> you're right [10:43] <blindcoder> ah, okay ;) [10:43] <th> why does the current cat-way _not_ work? [10:44] <blindcoder> it does [10:44] <blindcoder> _iff_ you have cat [10:44] <th> k [10:44] <blindcoder> I don't include cat in LVP for size [10:44] <th> shouldn't every posix-shell be able to deliver a one-liner cat-replacemnt? [10:45] <blindcoder> yes [10:45] <blindcoder> but at least in raid-devfs.sh the scripts use cat -n [10:45] <blindcoder> which enumerates the lines, too [10:45] <th> ok [10:45] <th> which is not fixed by 2006051215313077940 ;) [10:45] <blindcoder> that's also why I didn't touch that yet [10:46] <blindcoder> yes, but I don't use raid-devfs.sh in LVP, so that wasn't a priority [10:47] <th> yea [10:52] <blindcoder> th: thanks [10:52] <blindcoder> I guess I should reinstall my laptop at some point [10:54] <esden> humm ... I think I will need a rocklinux build for intel core duo soon [10:55] <esden> how does it look with building rocklinux under debian? [10:55] <esden> does it work? [10:57] <blindcoder> it should [10:57] <blindcoder> the last devfs-relying code should be long gone [10:57] <blindcoder> so if debian serves sane software [10:58] <esden> blindcoder: ok I will test it then [10:59] <esden> blindcoder: what is the best way to get rocklinux build source? [10:59] <esden> and which version should I use? [10:59] <esden> I have not done it in a while [11:01] <blindcoder> svn co svn://www.rocklinux.org/rock-linux/trunk [11:08] <esden> blindcoder: thanks [11:08] Action: esden checking out [11:12] <esden> humm ... first apt-get dist-upgrade [11:25] <esden> humm .. debian seems to use udev ... [11:29] <th> they all do now. even rock ;) [11:54] <daja77_> gna https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/73109 [12:02] <blindcoder> hehe [12:04] <esden> gcc misc/rockdialog/*.c -Imisc/rockdialog -lncurses -o src/rockdialog.bin [12:04] <esden> /tmp/cc4fZkym.o: In function `dialog_inputbox': [12:04] <esden> inputbox.c:(.text+0x6d9): undefined reference to `__ctype_b' [12:04] <esden> /tmp/ccrIJyqX.o: In function `dialog_menu': [12:04] <esden> menubox.c:(.text+0xbb4): undefined reference to `__ctype_b' [12:04] <esden> /tmp/cc5QQlQj.o: In function `first_alpha': [12:04] <esden> util.c:(.text+0xa07): undefined reference to `__ctype_b' [12:04] <esden> collect2: ld returned 1 exit statusė [12:05] <daja77_> guess you have an old version of dialog [12:05] <esden> humm [12:05] <blindcoder> seems like you're missing something [12:05] <daja77_> or no dialog at all [12:06] <blindcoder> blindcoder@ceres:~$ mine -q dialog [12:06] <blindcoder> dialog 1.0-20040920 0 [12:07] <esden> humm [12:07] <esden> zoidberg:~/rock/rock-current# dialog --version [12:07] <esden> Version: 1.0-20060221 [12:08] <esden> and I have ncurses5-dev [12:08] <blindcoder> While linking, the error message "undefined reference to __ctype_b" appears - this is a feature of glibc no longer avaiable in glibc-2.3.2-11.9, but avaiable in glibc-2.2. [12:09] <blindcoder> hmm [12:09] <blindcoder> probably also not the cause [12:10] <esden> humm ... I have too new glibc version? [12:11] <esden> I have 2.3.6 installed [12:12] <blindcoder> yes, it seems to be connected to glibc and backwards compatibility [12:12] <blindcoder> but I have not found a solution so far [12:12] <blindcoder> ie: what to use instead of __ctype_b [12:14] <esden> humm ... this symbol exists in ctype.h [12:29] <esden> aaaha ... you need to add -D__NO_CTYPE so that it compiles [12:33] fake (n=fake@rapidnetworks.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:33] <fake> moin [12:33] Action: fake using irssi [12:33] <fake> weird [12:33] <blindcoder> moin moin fake [12:33] <blindcoder> why? [12:34] <fake> because it's the first time i do so ;) [12:34] <blindcoder> heh [12:35] <fake> why is 'fake' not highlighted? [12:35] <fake> test fake [12:35] <fake> hm, probably it's not if i write it [12:35] <blindcoder> it isn't if you say it yourself [12:35] <blindcoder> test fake [12:35] <fake> ah, now it is [12:35] <fake> /hilight [12:35] <fake> pretty obvious [12:35] <blindcoder> :) [12:36] <fake> how do i change 'windows' ? [12:36] <blindcoder> alt+[1-90] [12:36] <blindcoder> or ESC[1-90] [12:36] <blindcoder> or ctrl-n and ctrl-p [12:37] <fake> ah [12:37] <fake> /window [12:37] <fake> though alt+1 is more practical, i agree ;) [12:37] <blindcoder> channels that you were hilighted in are displayed magenta [12:37] <th> esc is better [12:38] <th> and you go to the most recent magenta (read any action) with esc-a [12:38] <fake> ah-huh [12:38] <esden> moin mr. fake [12:38] <blindcoder> for windows 11-20 you can use alt+qwertyuiop [12:38] Action: fake happy it works and has timestamps [12:38] <daja77_> hi fake [12:39] <blindcoder> actually, I also setup asd... and yxc... for windows 21-30 and 31-40 [12:39] <esden> blindcoder: perhups you should consider adding -D__NO_CTYPE to the compile command of rockdialog in scripts/Config [12:40] <esden> or anyone feeling guilty ;) [12:43] Action: fake horribly bored [12:44] <blindcoder> go code :P [12:45] <fake> i'd love to. but unfortunately i can't [12:46] <daja77_> i know that somehow [12:47] <fake> i'm waiting for like 100 people who promised to call me back. [12:47] <blindcoder> ouch [12:48] <fake> it's not like i want shomething from them i wouldn't pay for. it's just that austrian companies don't quite get that customers aren't just people getting on everybodies nerves, but also the people paying the income. [12:50] <blindcoder> Warnung! Kunde droht mit Auftrag! [12:50] <fake> "Echt ein toller Job, Verkaeufer, wenn nur diese Kunden nicht waeren..." [12:52] <blindcoder> *phew* [12:52] <blindcoder> lvp 0.5.3 is out the door [12:52] <daja77_> it ran away? [12:53] <fake> what could i do? [12:54] <blindcoder> yeah, it escaped its cage and ran away [12:58] <fake> symbian signing is a joke [12:58] <fake> 350$ just to get a private/public key pair from versigin that alone does *nothing* [12:58] <fake> valid for one year only, of course. [12:59] <fake> then send the pre-signed app to symbian testing. pay upfront - if the test fails, begin at step 1. [12:59] <daja77_> O_o [12:59] <fake> unbelievable. [12:59] <daja77_> that reminds that I still haven't figured out why mycacert key is not workong with ff [13:00] <fake> of course, anyone can order the public/private keypair, no verification is done besides credit card billability [13:01] <daja77_> https://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2006052442713.gif [13:02] <blindcoder> fake: isn't that how all "certification" programs work? [13:02] <blindcoder> fake: certification == license to print money [13:03] <blindcoder> or burn it, depending on which end you happen to be [13:03] <blindcoder> hmm [13:04] <blindcoder> we could "certify" distributions that are able to handle the ROCK scripts for 499.89 EUR per release [13:04] <fake> and user [13:04] <blindcoder> package updates cost anoth 39.99 EUR [13:05] <fake> per line of code [13:05] <blindcoder> "whoops, you updated firefox. we need to recertify your distribution now." [13:05] <fake> of course, context is counted. [13:07] <esden> ahh tutty is nice [13:07] <esden> no not putty ... tutty [13:08] <daja77_> esden: they are called girls :P [13:09] <esden> daja77_: lol [13:14] <fake> tutty? [13:21] <esden> https://putty.dwalin.ru [13:21] <fake> underlined text in terminal is displayed with different colour [13:21] <fake> ?? [13:44] th (n=th@montana.hbsn.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [13:49] <esden> fake: I do not know what this feature is for ... the importaint feature that I need is the serial backend [13:55] <blindcoder> minicom? [13:56] <fake> linux is too complicated for esden ... hehe [13:56] <fake> i bet it's embedded compiler / emulator / jtag only-for-windows crap [14:05] <esden> fake: ack [14:05] <esden> that is the problem [14:05] <esden> but I am working on changing that [14:05] <esden> fake: if you are interested in progress then subscribe to my blog ;) [14:05] <esden> fake: I mean make yourself an account [14:06] <esden> blindcoder: that is of course a solution ... but I was eager to see if there is something usable in the windows world [14:07] Pilot (n=pilot@212.48.133.193) left irc: "quitting" [14:09] <fake> esden: same reason for me [15:19] th (n=th@montana.hbsn.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:24] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:29] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-10dcb43dd276043a) joined #rocklinux. [15:56] th (n=th@montana.hbsn.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:05] madtux (i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com) joined #rocklinux. [16:05] <daja77_> maddy! [16:05] <madtux> Danny :) [16:11] <blindcoder> oi, it's the mad tux! [16:11] Action: blindcoder hugs madtux [16:11] <madtux> rehug [16:11] <madtux> how is everything doing guys? [16:12] <blindcoder> great [16:13] <blindcoder> even though every single muscle in my body is sore [16:14] Action: daja77_ trying not to fall asleep [16:15] <madtux> daja77_, why would u fall asleep? [16:15] <madtux> blindcoder, how come? [16:16] <daja77_> madtux: had a long talk about the diploma which got a bit tiring in the end [16:17] <blindcoder> madtux: Naginata training seminar on the weekend [16:18] <blindcoder> madtux: 9 hours training on saturday, 4 hours training on sunday, 2 hours fighting ken versus naginata on sunday [16:18] <madtux> daja77_, hehe cool.. [16:19] <madtux> fighting ken.... who were u then? barbie? [16:19] Action: madtux hides [16:21] <daja77_> :D [16:22] <blindcoder> :P [16:22] <blindcoder> ken == sword, as in Kendo == Way of the Sword [16:22] <daja77_> .oO (barbie and sword) [16:22] <madtux> hahaha [16:39] th (n=th@montana.hbsn.de) joined #rocklinux. [16:52] <esden> nice ... rocklinux build on debian in stage 1 [17:01] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [17:05] madtux (i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [17:09] SteffenP (i=steffen@p5499571B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:16] SteffenP (i=steffen@p5499571B.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [17:22] madtux (i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com) joined #rocklinux. [17:24] <esden> nice ... buildlevel 2 reached [18:14] <blindcoder> esden: from there it should be fine [18:14] <daja77_> we should add a stage 13 to be executed on debian hosts ;) [18:24] <blindcoder> why? [18:26] <[raphael]> daja77_: ping [18:26] <[raphael]> or, anyone else: with SPL, how can I get to the program arguments/parameters? [18:28] <daja77_> argv [18:28] <daja77_> argv[0], argv[1] [18:35] <[raphael]> daja77_: great, thanks a lot [18:36] <daja77_> np [18:36] <daja77_> there is another way i forgot about [18:43] <[raphael]> daja77_: yup, works just fine :) [18:47] <esden> blindcoder: I hope so [18:47] <esden> still building stage 2 [19:10] <daja77_> https://leech.dk/bubblegum.php/isawyou.jpg [19:11] <[raphael]> And.... how can I check if a string equals another string, ignoring white space characters.... is string ~== "hello" wrong? [19:13] <daja77_> try debug string to see if it really contains that string [19:15] <[raphael]> daja77_: does ~== ignore whitespace chars? [19:16] <daja77_> i hope not [19:26] <[raphael]> uhh... .damn \r [19:27] <[raphael]> is there a function to trim a string? [19:27] <daja77_> no [19:27] <daja77_> not that I know [19:28] <[raphael]> ok... so, stupid question, how to remove whitespace, \r, \n and \t characters? [19:29] <[raphael]> from a string [19:30] <daja77_> use regex [19:32] <daja77_> s/s+$// [19:32] <daja77_> sth like that [19:34] <[raphael]> s/\r// [19:35] <[raphael]> that's doing someting [20:28] <blindcoder> FSCK [20:28] <blindcoder> FSCKFSCFSCKFSCKFSCKFSKC [20:29] <blindcoder> I forgot to check in the ide-devfs patch into LVP [20:29] <blindcoder> FUCK [20:45] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [21:48] lonn (n=samd@fla93-1-81-57-168-33.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Tue May 16 2006