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[06:05] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.29) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [07:14] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [07:20] <blindcoder> moin [10:19] <esden> moin [10:25] Action: blindcoder coughs and sneezes at esden [10:45] <esden> urgh ... bruagh [10:45] <esden> blindcoder: you are filthy [10:46] <esden> blindcoder: when you are ill ... then you have time .. right? ... or are you so ill that you are not able to debug a small thing on pallas? [10:47] <esden> I would be very thankfull ;) [10:47] <esden> the topic would be ... "why is localization not working on pallas?" .. is it working in rocklinux at all? [10:48] <esden> with localization I mean gettext [10:50] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [10:50] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [10:51] <blindcod1r> 10:42 < esden> I would be very thankfull ;) [10:51] <blindcod1r> 10:42 < blindcoder> I'm debugging myself atm :) [10:51] <blindcod1r> 10:42 < blindcoder> still the gettext problem? [10:51] <blindcod1r> 10:43 < esden> the topic would be ... "why is localization not working on pallas?" .. is it working in rocklinux at all? [10:51] <blindcod1r> 10:43 < esden> with localization I mean gettext [10:51] <blindcod1r> 10:43 < blindcoder> I have no idea since I never used it [10:51] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [10:58] <esden> humm ... [11:38] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [11:38] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [11:38] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [12:09] <esden> blindcoder: in the $topic build localization works [12:09] <esden> but on pallas not [12:09] <esden> I do not know what is broken though [12:09] <esden> and I need localization badly!!! [12:10] <esden> kernel problem? glibc? ... or what else? [12:13] <blindcoder> I can't say, either [12:13] <blindcoder> never used localization before [12:14] <esden> gnarf [12:19] <blindcoder> three hours of cooking and after one plate I'm full >_< [12:20] <esden> blindcoder: as it seems gettext was not there in the orginal build you used to install pallas [12:20] <esden> that is _bad_ [12:22] <blindcoder> that may very well be [12:22] <blindcoder> I remember that gettext was broken back then [12:22] <blindcoder> so I gave it the boot [12:23] <esden> *sigh* I do not want to think about the possibility that to get localization working an update of glibc will be needed [12:24] <blindcoder> *shudder* [12:24] <blindcoder> why is localization a feature of glibc even? [12:24] <esden> *cry* I want debian on pallas!!! there it works... also libc updates !WORK! >_< [12:24] <blindcoder> shouldn't it be in the gettext library or so? [12:25] <esden> blindcoder: I do not really know what is needed to have localization ... but installing gettext is not enough [12:25] <esden> that is proven [12:25] <blindcoder> well, glibc is brainfucked anyway [12:25] <blindcoder> I mean... memfrob? wtf? [12:26] <esden> but glibc works ... if compiled and installed propperly [12:26] <esden> and as it seems the build running on pallas is braindead [12:26] <blindcoder> well, it _is_ old [12:27] <esden> blindcoder: apt-get dist-upgrade please! [12:27] <blindcoder> and the one time I tried a glibc update I had some serious brokenness [12:27] <esden> gnarf gnarf gnarf ... jumparound [12:28] Action: esden starts *crying* [12:28] <esden> but perhups a simple reboot of pallas would solve the problem ... :/ [12:29] <blindcoder> be my guest [12:29] <esden> ok ... but first I check if the gettext install is ok [12:29] <esden> and so on [12:29] <esden> I let you know when I initiate the reboot [12:29] <blindcoder> ok [12:30] <blindcoder> and please _do_ a shutdown with a grace period [12:40] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-034-095.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:45] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-041-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:52] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [13:02] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-f2263fbee06b26e5) joined #rocklinux. [13:03] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:03] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [13:04] <esden> blindcoder: will do [13:32] <blindcoder> urgs [13:32] <blindcoder> I feel like my head is going to explode [13:39] Action: esden squeezing blindcoder's head ... the additional pressure should be enough to let his head really explode :) [13:39] <esden> ok ... I know ... for you it is not funny [13:39] <esden> I know what headake is ... >_< [13:40] <blindcoder> hehe [13:40] <blindcoder> esden: I have a fever since saturday afternoon [13:40] <blindcoder> with fever induced nightmares and all that shit [13:40] <esden> blindcoder: I know I read about it [13:40] <esden> urgh ... that sux [13:40] <blindcoder> I haven't felt so bad in a long time :( [13:41] Action: blindcoder wallows in self-pity [14:04] <esden> ok ... I will now initiate a reboot @ blindcoder [14:05] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) left #rocklinux. [14:07] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-2faea75f29fcd504) joined #rocklinux. [14:08] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [14:08] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [14:27] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:28] <esden> re hi [14:29] <blindcoder> wb [14:29] <esden> dammit ... it still does not work >_< [14:29] <esden> grr [14:29] <blindcoder> :( [14:31] <blindcoder> looks like we'll really have to reinstall the machine [14:32] <blindcoder> you could try creating gems for all packages, install them in a chroot and try a glibc update there [14:37] <esden> humm ... damn ... I have to relaern tons of stuff [14:37] <esden> *sigh* [14:56] <esden> blindcoder: how do I generate all the gem's? [14:57] <blindcoder> mine [14:57] <esden> s/s [14:57] <esden> aha [14:57] <blindcoder> for x in /var/adm/packages/* ; do x=${x##*/} ; mine -T ${x}.tar.bz2 <some other stuff> ${x} ; done [14:59] <esden> I also need mine -C [14:59] <esden> but yes that may be correct [14:59] <blindcoder> you can also use the tar.bz2 files [14:59] <blindcoder> .gem is just .tar.bz2 with a bit of extra information [14:59] <esden> *sigh* [15:00] <blindcoder> I still don't know why we need it *shrug* [15:00] <esden> yes I know [15:00] <esden> what I really want to know is what is borked so that locale does not work [15:14] <esden> ahh ... slowly but I think that I get to the problem [15:14] <esden> and as it seems it is really a libc problem [15:14] <blindcoder> -v [15:17] <esden> wooot it works! [15:17] <blindcoder> YAY! [15:17] <blindcoder> what was it? [15:17] <esden> ok ... what I had to do is: [15:17] <esden> unpack the glibc sources [15:17] <esden> change to the directory glibc-<version>/localedata/charmaps [15:17] <esden> and run [15:18] <esden> localedef -i <language_country> -f <character encoding> <language_country>}} ie. {{localedef -i en_US -f ISO-8859-1 en_US [15:18] <esden> in my case was it [15:18] <esden> localedef -i de_de -f ISO-8859-1 de_DE [15:18] <esden> now german works [15:18] <esden> now testing for pl [15:19] <esden> ok pl_PL works too [15:19] <blindcoder> sweet [15:19] <esden> please add it to wiki!!!! [15:20] <esden> I do not know what is the right place for that in wiki [15:20] <esden> the problem resolver for me was: https://wiki.sourcemage.org/HOWTO-Locale_problems [15:21] <esden> cool splywowicze is now in polish!!! woot! [15:21] <esden> booyah [15:25] <blindcoder> let me see [15:25] <blindcoder> what is splywowicze, anyway? [15:26] <blindcoder> hmm [15:26] <blindcoder> localedef runs for a while [15:30] <esden> it is a gallery site for my uncle [15:31] <blindcoder> ah [15:31] <blindcoder> what we were talking about? [15:33] <esden> blindcoder: erm ... adding the howto to rocklinux wiki? [15:33] <blindcoder> esden: I menat the gallery [15:34] <blindcoder> esden: we were talking about it when I was in Ingolstadt, no? [15:41] <esden> blindcoder: I think so [15:41] <esden> blindcoder: this is the gallery that needs to remain private [15:42] <blindcoder> yeah :) [15:42] <esden> urgh ... translation mistake found :) [15:42] <blindcoder> hehehe [15:42] <blindcoder> nothing like a native speaker to find translation problems [15:44] <esden> hehe ... right ;) [15:46] <esden> blindy ... an error for you: [Mon May 22 14:53:20 2006] [error] [client 209.94.176.249] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagecreate() in /home/www/generic/nethackidle/makeworldmap.php on line 13, referer: https://pallas.crash-override.net/nethackidle/worldmap.php [15:46] <blindcoder> ack [15:47] <blindcoder> that used to work! [15:49] <blindcoder> why is gd support missing in php? [15:51] <blindcoder> hmm [15:51] <blindcoder> strange [15:53] <blindcoder> hmm [15:53] <blindcoder> I see [15:53] <blindcoder> libgd is missing [15:53] <blindcoder> in the config, at least [15:53] <blindcoder> not on the host [15:55] <esden> ohh ... damn [15:55] <esden> I thought I fixed that [15:55] <esden> that is why captcha does not work [15:56] <esden> do you want to fix it? [15:56] <esden> or should I? [15:56] <blindcoder> I'm at it already [15:56] <blindcoder> need to recompile php [15:56] <blindcoder> guess I did that manually back then [15:57] <esden> blindcoder: no ... the installed version of php is compiled from rocklinux source [15:57] <esden> by me [15:57] <esden> I altered it because of gettext [15:57] <esden> it was also missing [15:57] <blindcoder> yes [15:57] <blindcoder> and I think that I installed php outside of rock sources last time [15:57] <esden> ok [15:57] <esden> use rock sources from now on [15:58] <esden> and alter the php.conf so that it is documented how it was compiled for future [15:58] <esden> I do the same [15:58] <esden> and do this also for other packets [15:58] <esden> so that we know what we have [15:58] <esden> ok? [16:00] <blindcoder> I didn't need to change php.conf [16:00] <blindcoder> just add 'X libgd' to the 'default' configuration [16:00] <esden> ahh ok [16:00] <esden> sure [16:00] <blindcoder> we should add libgd to crystal standard installation [16:01] <esden> blindcoder: FULL ACK!!! [16:01] <esden> and I hope imagemagick is also there... [16:01] <esden> the alternative would be to create a pallas config [16:02] <esden> so that when we have to reinstall the box then we only have to build that [16:02] <esden> and then we have everything we need from the beginning [16:02] <blindcoder> ln -s default pallas [16:02] <blindcoder> :) [16:03] <esden> yes the default config is pallas sure [16:04] <esden> but we should take care that in the config is everything we use [16:04] <esden> blindcoder: tell me when you are ready with php ok? [16:06] <esden> blindcoder: you have to start apache once more [16:06] <esden> when you only do restart after php recompile then it segfaults [16:06] <blindcoder> will do [16:07] <blindcoder> okay, I'm done [16:07] <blindcoder> I did stop && start [16:07] <esden> good good [16:07] <esden> thanks [16:07] <esden> ok [16:07] <blindcoder> but it seems like apache is missing mod_perl now o_O [16:07] <esden> oh oh [16:08] <blindcoder> ah, no [16:08] <blindcoder> just a missing /var/run/ subdir [16:08] <blindcoder> or rather [16:08] <blindcoder> a broken apache configuration :) [16:10] <esden> humm ... ok [16:12] <esden> blindcoder: are you still doing something in /usr/src/rock-2.1-clifford ? [16:12] <blindcoder> no [16:12] <blindcoder> just sitting there [16:12] <blindcoder> gone :) [16:13] <esden> ok ... now it is my turn to mess around ;) [16:13] <blindcoder> hf [16:13] <esden> thanks ;) [16:27] [EoDFan]Gurilla (i=SLm@cpc2-addl1-0-0-cust439.hers.cable.ntl.com) joined #rocklinux. [16:27] <[EoDFan]Gurilla> hey all, can someone help me out? [16:27] <blindcoder> depends on the problem [16:27] <blindcoder> but shoot [16:29] <[EoDFan]Gurilla> wel i just installed a new cdrom drive into my va linux server and it wont boot up, it powers on then off. is there a good chance that i have short circuited it? [16:29] <[EoDFan]Gurilla> i did earth myself.. i hope [16:30] <blindcoder> does it show up in BIOS? [16:30] <blindcoder> POST, even? [16:30] <[EoDFan]Gurilla> doesnt get that far [16:30] <blindcoder> ouch [16:31] <blindcoder> cables are fine? [16:31] <[EoDFan]Gurilla> yep cables are fine, and i used the cables on an identicle server [16:31] <[EoDFan]Gurilla> *identical [16:32] <blindcoder> hmm [16:32] <blindcoder> yeah, sounds like the drive is broken then [16:32] <blindcoder> if it's new, just return it and demand a new one [16:33] <esden> ui ui ui ... centericq rock build is borked ... it seems that I have to alter the build process >_< [16:33] <th> i tried to blame the upstream guys for that [16:34] <th> the connwrap-0.1 subdir does not like the variable definition in front of the configure line [16:37] <esden> th: yup [16:37] <esden> but they have not released a version since an eternity ... [16:37] <esden> namely from 02 Sep 2005 [16:37] <esden> *sigh* [16:39] <blindcoder> sounds a lot like mplayer [16:41] <esden> humm ... the community site also seems to be bit dead [16:41] <blindcoder> esden: use bitlbee :) [16:42] <esden> is it better? [16:42] <blindcoder> esden: it's an IRC to ICQ/MSN/foo interface :) [16:42] <esden> aha ... and how do I use it? [16:43] <blindcoder> install it, add it to /etc/inetd.conf, connect to localhost and type help :) [16:44] <th> esden: it's a virtual irc channel. [16:44] <th> esden: and the server makes all your buddies from different accounts join there [16:45] <th> esden: talk to them by query or by prefixing them with "buddyname: " in the channel [16:46] <esden> blindcoder: is it installed on pallas? [16:46] <blindcoder> no [16:46] <esden> th: humm ... interesting [16:46] <esden> but I do not know if I want something like this [16:47] <esden> is there no other nice text based icq client? [16:47] <th> esden: i'm using it quite a while. [16:47] <esden> humm ... so it works well I suppose [16:47] <th> esden: why do you want to use more than one text client for communication? [16:47] <esden> right ... that is an argument [16:47] <esden> s/argument/point/ [16:48] <esden> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg bitlbee [17:01] <esden> humm ... how do I restrict bitlbee so that you only can connect to it from localhost? [17:02] <esden> ahh nice ... the port is blocked by hetzner anyways ;) [17:03] <blindcoder> 6667, yes [17:03] <blindcoder> just move it to 6666 or something like that [17:05] <esden> blindcoder: I want that it is blocked [17:06] <esden> that is good [17:06] <esden> then you can only connect to bitlbee from localhost [17:06] <esden> that is good [17:06] <blindcoder> true :) [17:06] <blindcoder> I also block 6667 from the outside at home [17:06] <blindcoder> so I can use bitlbee on localhost and all's well :) [17:07] <esden> ;) [17:14] <esden> blindcoder: am I visible in icq already? [17:15] <blindcoder> I'm offline atm [17:15] <esden> aha ... ok [17:16] <blindcoder> wouldn't look good if I'm sick at home and my cow-orkers see me online in icq [17:18] <esden> right [17:18] <esden> ahh ... now I am online finally [17:22] <esden> very nice [17:22] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [17:22] <esden> it works better then centericq [17:24] <blindcoder> hehe [17:27] <th> bitlbee -h [17:27] <th> -i Specify the interface (by IP address) to listen on. [17:27] <th> make it 127.0.0.1 [17:27] <th> esden [17:27] <esden> th: that is a setting only needed for daemon stand alone running [17:28] <esden> as far as I understand the documentation [17:28] <th> esden: well it's effect is that only localhost can connect. which is what you wanted. [17:28] <th> esden: if you use another tcpserver for it. then it's that tcpserver's job to setup it's listen address [17:29] <esden> aha ... ok [17:29] <th> esden: you should not use inetd mode with IP_ANY and then expect from bitlbee to block if it's not from 127.0.0.1 ;-) [17:30] <th> i dont know inetd but it propably has some features like this. [17:30] <th> i use tcpserver (djb) for it. [17:30] <esden> humm ... I think I have to read the documentation of inetd [17:31] <th> inetd can use tcpd as a wrapper [17:32] <th> some time ago that worked with some /etc/host.allow and /etc/host.deny config files. [17:32] <th> but i dont like this inetd+tcpd mixture. [17:53] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: "leaving" [17:55] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:55] <esden> re [18:02] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: "leaving" [18:03] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[18:11] <esden> hi stf^rocklinux ;) [18:11] <stf^rocklinux> [EoDFan]Gurilla: maybe the additionial power consumption by the drive overloads the power supply unit [18:13] <stf^rocklinux> hi esden :) [18:14] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux [18:14] <stf^rocklinux> hi blindcoder :) [18:22] <stf^rocklinux> hmm, there are some seemingly strange errors in my latest test build... [18:22] <stf^rocklinux> e.g. in 1-gettext: /bin/sh ../lib/javacomp.sh -d . ./gnu/gettext/GettextResource.java [18:22] <stf^rocklinux> Error occurred during initialization of VM [18:22] <stf^rocklinux> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object [18:22] <stf^rocklinux> make[3]: *** [gnu/gettext/GettextResource.class] Error 1 [18:23] <stf^rocklinux> and in 2-binutils: [18:23] <stf^rocklinux> file=../../../bfd/po/`echo es | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \ [18:23] <stf^rocklinux> && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file ../../../bfd/po/es.po [18:23] <stf^rocklinux> /bin/sh: line 2: no: command not found [18:23] <stf^rocklinux> make[4]: *** [es.gmo] Error 127 [18:24] <stf^rocklinux> let' see if they appear in a vanilla build as well... [18:36] Lotodore (n=chatzill@a81-14-145-192.net-htp.de) joined #rocklinux. [18:37] <esden> stf^rocklinux: I saw that error on pallas too running make tst or so [18:46] Lotodore (n=chatzill@a81-14-145-192.net-htp.de) left irc: "Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]" [18:52] <blindcoder> make test is evil :P [18:56] <[EoDFan]Gurilla> so my drive is screwed blindcoder? [19:17] esden (i=esdentem@pallas.crash-override.net) got netsplit. [19:17] [EoDFan]Gurilla (i=SLm@cpc2-addl1-0-0-cust439.hers.cable.ntl.com) got netsplit. [19:17] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) got netsplit. [19:17] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-034-095.pools.arcor-ip.net) got netsplit. [19:17] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.160) got netsplit. [19:17] toberkel (n=toberkel@toberkel.net) got netsplit. [19:17] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) got netsplit. [19:17] mnemoc (n=amery@216.241.24.10) got netsplit. [19:17] th (n=th@80.78.84.66) got netsplit. [19:17] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-032-98.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) got netsplit. 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[21:16] <stf^rocklinux> ahh, gettext in stage 1 (and subsequently binutils) fail because gettext in stage 1 uses javac from the build system (which I borked here) [21:47] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-038-041.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:01] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-034-095.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:57] lonn (n=sam@fla93-1-81-57-168-33.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:03] SteffenP (n=steffen@p54997FBD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Tue May 23 2006