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[00:55] Action: Lucifer_arma is back. [01:20] <th> blindcoder: esden: anyone of you could do a bitlbee update 1.0.1 -> 1.0.2? [02:54] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-105-005.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:03] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-100-244.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:03] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [03:27] <Lucifer_arma> implantisomd5.c:8:18: error: popt.h: No such file or directory [03:27] <Lucifer_arma> implantisomd5.c: In function main: [03:27] <Lucifer_arma> ? what package is that in that I need to install? :) [03:35] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:39] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-032-98.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [03:55] <Lucifer_arma> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined. [03:55] <Lucifer_arma> ? [04:24] <Lucifer_arma> aha, I accidentally built crystal target for my bootdisk configuration. :( [04:40] <stf^rocklinux> to get a bootable ISO, you have to build a bootdisk target as well, then use e.g. scripts/Create-ISO myiso bootdisk crystal [04:42] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I did that, except when I configured my bootdisk configuration, I accidentally configured it with the crystal (default) target. Fixed and it's building again. [04:42] <stf^rocklinux> the bootdisk target on itself is also bootable [04:42] <Lucifer_arma> I assume that downloading dietlibc is a sign that I finally got the right target in the configuration :) [04:42] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should edit the wiki and point this out.... [04:43] Action: Lucifer_arma does it, since he has that page open [04:43] <stf^rocklinux> feel free to do so :) [04:43] <Lucifer_arma> nvm, it's already marked. [04:43] Action: Lucifer_arma tells him to "RTFM" [04:43] <Lucifer_arma> er [04:44] Action: Lucifer_arma tells himself to RTFM [04:46] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I put one of those big bold "if you don't read this, you're an idiot for screwing it up" messages on there [04:56] <stf^rocklinux> in the current bootdisk target, dietlibc is not used for building other packages [04:56] <stf^rocklinux> you can change that via Config (or use uClibc as an alternative), but this is hardly tested atm [04:57] <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter. :) I just want to see if the damn thing works. [04:58] <Lucifer_arma> see, if this rock linux is as cool as it looks while building, ummm.... I think all my distribution problems get solved pretty much at once. [05:07] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:29] <stf^rocklinux> of course, if you can't find something in the manual, you're welcome to ask here or on the mailing lists. not everything is documented yet. [05:33] <Lucifer_arma> :) thanks, you guys have been very helpful so far [05:33] <stf^rocklinux> np :) I'm off now. cu later [05:33] <Lucifer_arma> later [05:35] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Success [05:42] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:51] ija_ (n=ija@84.19.223.116) joined #rocklinux. [06:05] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.31) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [06:33] <blindcoder> moin [06:49] <Lucifer_arma> so, where do I find the script/application that runs the UI during installation from a cd? [06:52] <blindcoder> package/base/sysfiles/etc_stone.d_mod_install.sh IIRC [06:52] <blindcoder> or, on an installed system, /etc/stone.d/mod_install.sh [06:55] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:55] <Lucifer_arma> stone_mod_install.sh ? [06:56] <blindcoder> yes [06:58] <Lucifer_arma> so are you guys partial to a gui toolkit and language? I'm just thinking ahead... [06:59] <blindcoder> kde, mostly [06:59] <blindcoder> since that is also what we use in crystal [06:59] <blindcoder> but if you have somethnig that is more suited, go aheid [06:59] <Lucifer_arma> python ok? [06:59] <blindcoder> ahead [06:59] <Lucifer_arma> I've just recently learned that pyQt is wonderful :) [07:01] <blindcoder> hmm, better ask on the mailinglist [07:01] <blindcoder> I don't think we have anything in python yet [07:01] <Lucifer_arma> everything I'm seeing is just bash [07:02] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:02] <blindcoder> bash, a bit of perl and some C [07:04] <Lucifer_arma> hmmm. I like thinking I can keep my sanity and generally don't touch perl or C. I'd be willing to go to C++, or use pyrex to build to C, except you'd still need a python installation [07:05] <Lucifer_arma> I hate swallowing tea leaves :( [07:06] <blindcoder> perl and C are quite nice, actually [07:06] <Lucifer_arma> um, sure. :) [07:06] Action: Lucifer_arma doesn't want to get involved in a perl/C flamewar :) [07:07] <blindcoder> hehe [07:07] <blindcoder> anyway, gotta run to work now [07:07] <blindcoder> it'll be a long day :( [07:07] <Lucifer_arma> have fun [07:07] <blindcoder> bbl [07:07] Action: Lucifer_arma works from home. :) [07:48] <blindcoder> the good thing about working from home is you're always at home while at work [07:49] <blindcoder> the bad thing about working from home is you're always at work while at home [07:49] <Lucifer_arma> :) that's not entirely true.... [07:49] <Lucifer_arma> but there is a charm in taking a break to play with my 2-year old [07:50] <blindcoder> hehe, true [08:40] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:40] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-b7a15fe674473681) joined #rocklinux. [09:16] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54995FCA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:16] SteffenP (i=steffen@p54995FCA.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:23] <Lucifer_arma> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined. [09:23] <Lucifer_arma> this time I built the bootdisk target :( [09:23] <blindcoder> did you also point create-iso to it? [09:24] <Lucifer_arma> ./scripts/Create-ISO bootdisk default [09:24] <blindcoder> meep [09:24] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Create-ISO mycdset bootdisk default [09:24] <blindcoder> the first parameter is the name of the cd images that are being created [09:24] <Lucifer_arma> aha [09:25] <Lucifer_arma> different output this time :) [09:26] <Lucifer_arma> added that little tidbit to the wiki :/ [09:27] <Lucifer_arma> ok, cd booted in qemu, thanks :) [09:27] <blindcoder> have fun :) [09:27] Action: Lucifer_arma intends to :) [09:33] <Lucifer_arma> I'm such a failure [09:44] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:53] <blindcoder> why? [09:58] <Lucifer_arma> the thing broke down when installing [09:58] <Lucifer_arma> said the packages weren't on the disc [09:59] <Lucifer_arma> I'm using a custom target, lemme look at the others to see what they did [09:59] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I copied the lines from the crystal build.sh file [09:59] <Lucifer_arma> that's what I did, and it's broke apparently, at least for me [10:02] <Lucifer_arma> I take it back, I copied the generic build.sh script [10:08] <Lucifer_arma> the packages are on the cd image [10:11] <Lucifer_arma> Can't find: /mnt/source/TRUNKblahblah/pkgs/00-dirtree-0000-0.gem [10:17] <Lucifer_arma> scripts/functions: line 579: build/default-TRUNK-x86-carlinux/ROCK/pkgs/packages.db.tmp: No such file or directory [10:17] <Lucifer_arma> I turned on somethingsomething_GEM in the config.in file, and this is what I get when I try to build [10:18] <th> out of disk space? [10:20] <Lucifer_arma> 67% usage on a 40GB partition [10:21] <th> ok. just checking. [10:21] <Lucifer_arma> :) good question, I had to run df to answer it [10:21] <th> are you sure you need your own target? [10:22] <th> not only your own package selection? [10:22] <Lucifer_arma> not entirely sure, no. [10:22] <Lucifer_arma> I just stumbled across rock yesterday, I'm not really in a position to say how I should make it do what I'm wanting. ) [10:23] <Lucifer_arma> but I figured making my own target would give me the best look at the internals I can get short of actually digging in hardcore [10:23] <th> what command resulted in "scripts/functions: line 579: build/default-TRUNK-x86-carlinux/ROCK/pkgs/packages.db.tmp: No such file or directory"? [10:23] <Lucifer_arma> ./scripts/Build-Target [10:24] <th> and you are running it as root? [10:24] <Lucifer_arma> this was, ummm, let's see. I made the target by copying the generic target stuff and changing the package list [10:24] <Lucifer_arma> yes [10:25] <Lucifer_arma> when I first built the target, that GEM setting was 0. Which resulted in the iso image that gave the other error message I typed in (can't copy and paste from qemu) [10:25] <th> and you build host is crystal? [10:25] <Lucifer_arma> changed the GEM setting to 1, ran ./scripts/Config [10:25] <Lucifer_arma> no, it's Kubuntu [10:25] <th> i see [10:25] <th> well the packages.db.tmp is created just above line 579 [10:25] <th> so i assume something went wrong there [10:26] <th> do you have any more verbose output? [10:26] <Lucifer_arma> it's not lying, the file isn't there [10:26] <th> yes. it failed to create it [10:26] <th> it's created just before being used [10:27] <th> you cant give shell access to that machine? [10:27] <Lucifer_arma> https://www.davefancella.com/build_target_26940.log [10:28] <Lucifer_arma> actually, I can't, sorry. :( [10:28] <th> hmm the Built-Target did not build anything [10:28] <Lucifer_arma> it already built the first time, when I didn't have the GEM setting [10:28] <th> prpably because it found everything built [10:28] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I need to Cleanup and start it again? [10:28] <th> well. [10:28] <th> creating the gem happens after building [10:29] <th> directly after building the package [10:29] <th> so if it was not enabled. [10:29] <th> then you have no gem now. [10:29] <th> and that's why it can create the packages.db i think [10:29] <Lucifer_arma> ok, on the other side then, is it possible to get the cdrom to not require the gem? [10:29] <th> whats in your $build/var/adm/descs/ ? [10:30] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [10:30] <Lucifer_arma> big ol' package list [10:30] <th> Lucifer_arma: you dont need gems. the alternative is tar.bz2 packages. but that will cause trouble with the installer. but you dont need the installer neither [10:30] <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to build an installer :) [10:31] <th> do you have tar.bz2 packages in the pkgs dir? [10:31] <Lucifer_arma> I'm not trying to install anything, I'm trying to build an installer that I can run through qemu and see how it all works [10:31] <Lucifer_arma> yes, a whole bunch of them [10:31] <th> ok. [10:31] <Lucifer_arma> well, nto a whole bunch, but the ones that are supposed to be there anyway [10:32] <th> so the problem is that you changed the ROCKCFG_CREATE_GEM after creating the packages [10:32] <th> it assumes that you have created gems when building [10:32] <th> you can just undo that setting. [10:32] <Lucifer_arma> if I delete the packages, will it recompile all the packages, or will it just repackage them? [10:32] <th> and craete a cd with tbz2 [10:32] <Lucifer_arma> the iso with that setting set to 0 didn't work, it resulted in the other error message [10:33] <th> and make your installer able to see what you have (tbz2/gem) [10:33] <Lucifer_arma> <Lucifer_arma> Can't find: /mnt/source/TRUNKblahblah/pkgs/00-dirtree-0000-0.gem <--- from the installer running in qemu [10:33] <th> as i said the installer has problems when you not have gems [10:33] <th> but you said you wanted to write a new installer [10:33] <Lucifer_arma> ok, how do I make the installer see what I have? [10:34] <th> so make your installer more intelligent than the current one (read: make it not assume .gem only) [10:34] <Lucifer_arma> ah, no, ummm. I want to see rock's installer work, and the resulting installation. [10:34] <th> then you should have GEMs enabled on package build time [10:34] <Lucifer_arma> that's what I'm after right now, everything else I might throw out is conditional on this part. :) [10:34] <Lucifer_arma> ok, so cleanup and rebuild? [10:35] <Lucifer_arma> if I just delete the packages, will it rebuild the packages without having to recompile everything? [10:35] <th> that would be the easiest. but may take a while. you could try to just convert the tars to gems [10:35] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it'll take around 4 hours or so to rebuild [10:35] <Lucifer_arma> and I'm going to bed in about an hour :) [10:35] <Lucifer_arma> so how do I convert the tars to gems? [10:36] <th> you can either convert or just create the gems from the metadata in your build dir. [10:36] <th> /var/adm that s [10:36] <th> is [10:36] <th> you want to chroot into it [10:36] <th> and use the mine command [10:36] <th> mine -C and mine -T [10:37] <th> first `mine -T /var/adm / $pkg /tmp/t` [10:38] <th> then `mine -C /var/adm /tmp/t $pkg $pkg-$ver.gem` [10:40] <Lucifer_arma> would I have to type that for each package? [10:40] <blindcoder> for pkg in /var/adm/packages/* ; do pkg=${pkg##*/} ; mine -T ... ; mine -C ... ; done [10:40] <blindcoder> :) [10:41] <Lucifer_arma> mine: invalid option -- C [10:41] <th> hmm? [10:41] <th> mine --help [10:43] <Lucifer_arma> Create GEM (-C) and .tar.bz2 (-T) package files from installed packages: [10:43] <Lucifer_arma> mine -C var-adm-dir package-tar-bz2 package-name gem-file [10:44] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I did something wrong with the chroot [10:45] <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, if gem support was disabled, would it have built mine with it anyway? [10:45] <blindcoder> yes [10:46] <Lucifer_arma> bash-2.05b# mine -C /var/adm mine.tar.bz2 mine mine.gem [10:46] <Lucifer_arma> While writing key 'pkg_tarbz2': No such file or directory [10:47] <Lucifer_arma> just copied and pasted an example from the help screen :) [10:47] <blindcoder> did you create the mine.tar.bz2 before? [10:47] <th> what was your mine -T command? [10:47] <Lucifer_arma> none [10:47] <th> 10:33:28 < th> first `mine -T /var/adm / $pkg /tmp/t` [10:47] <th> 10:33:45 < th> then `mine -C /var/adm /tmp/t $pkg $pkg-$ver.gem` [10:48] <Lucifer_arma> ok, got the -T command in there [10:48] <Lucifer_arma> it ran [10:48] <Lucifer_arma> there's a mine.gem file here now [10:49] <Lucifer_arma> check the for loop :) I'm not good with bash [10:50] <th> then use another shell ;) [10:50] <Lucifer_arma> bash is the only one I know :) [10:50] <Lucifer_arma> for pkg in `ls /var/adm/packages/*` <-- made this change and it appears to be working [10:50] <Lucifer_arma> no, nvm, doesn't appear to be working [10:51] <th> UUOL [10:52] <th> perhaps dont do the for loop [10:52] <th> just ls /var/..* > list [10:52] <th> and work on the list [10:53] <th> perhaps you know an editor and can do some tricks with macros, to change the list file to a command listing with both mine commands [10:54] <Lucifer_arma> I could also just get smarter and realize that "..." isn't weird shell syntax, it literally means "put wht he wrote here" [10:54] <Lucifer_arma> you know, so I could copy and paste correctly from irc client [10:55] Action: Lucifer_arma blushes :) [10:55] <blindcoder> :) [10:55] <th> hehe [10:55] <blindcoder> I was just being a lazy typer [11:06] <Lucifer_arma> No such file or directory: build/default-TRUNK-x86-carlinux/ROCK/pkgs/packages.db <--- output from Create-ISO [11:07] <Lucifer_arma> did I miss something again? [11:11] <Lucifer_arma> do pkg=${pkg##*/} <--- there's no version extracted [11:16] Action: Lucifer_arma thinks he knows what he missed [11:23] <Lucifer_arma> ok, two problems. There's no version in the .gem filename, and I'm not sure I'm putting the .gem files in the right place [11:23] <Lucifer_arma> do they go in ROCK/pkgs? [11:23] <Lucifer_arma> and how do I get a version in the filename? [11:31] <Lucifer_arma> nvm, cleared out the logs and restarted [11:32] <Lucifer_arma> going to bed soon anyway [11:35] <th> 11:18:53 < Lucifer_arma> do they go in ROCK/pkgs? [11:35] <th> yes [11:35] <th> v=-$(grep '^Package Name and Version' \ [11:35] <th> $admdir/packages/$pkg | cut -f6,7 -d' ' | tr ' ' -) [11:36] <th> v=-$(grep '^Package Name and Version' $admdir/packages/$pkg | cut -f6,7 -d' ' | tr ' ' -) [11:36] <th> while admdir=/var/adm [11:56] <esden> moin everyone [12:13] <Lucifer_arma> so, how do I install a built distribution by hand? [12:18] <th> well [12:18] <th> just extract the tars [12:19] <Lucifer_arma> on an empty partition? [12:20] <th> yes [12:21] <th> and you should chroot into it mount /proc /sys /dev, and run cron.run and postinstall [12:21] <th> i might've forgotten something but we'll see on the error message then [12:22] <Lucifer_arma> hmm, decided to just run another build. I'm going to bed now, might as well just leave it all going and hope my computer doesn't melt while I'm sleeping [12:22] <Lucifer_arma> thanks! you've been very helpful. :) [12:23] <th> hehe [12:23] <th> no problem - you're welcome [13:03] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-83a300fd72346786) joined #rocklinux. [13:03] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:03] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [13:13] <daja77_> are there any objections to switch to postgresql 8.1 series? [13:20] netrunne1 (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:20] Action: Lucifer_arma is away: sleeping [13:52] <Lucifer_arma> so, I see that I can make a .init file for a package to have an init script [13:52] <Lucifer_arma> what if the package provides its own init script, and I just want to install that? [13:53] <blindcoder> you most probably don't [13:53] <blindcoder> have a look at a few example .init scripts [13:53] <blindcoder> the scripts provided by packages mostly don't fit into the ROCK way(TM) [13:53] <blindcoder> for example these two lines: [13:53] <blindcoder> # Desc: dovecot IMAP Daemon [13:53] <blindcoder> # Runlevel: 99 rcX [13:54] <blindcoder> the first is the short description provided in STONE (Setup Tool ONE) [13:54] <blindcoder> the second defines startup priority and default runlevels [13:56] <Lucifer_arma> aha. then it's probably good we made a configure option to not install the init script :) [14:00] <th> Lucifer_arma: talking asleep? [14:01] <daja77_> hehe [14:01] <Lucifer_arma> yeah. this is what I do, I say I'm going to sleep, and then lurk for another hour or so [14:01] <daja77_> hi th [14:02] <Lucifer_arma> is there a how-to write a .init file document somehwere? I'm looking at apache and dhcpd init files right now... [14:03] <th> yea hi daja77_ [14:03] <th> oh my journal build finished [14:03] <th> yesterday already [14:03] <daja77_> th: do you you have an opinion on the postgres thing? [14:04] <th> no. [14:04] <th> i'm not even aware of it. [14:04] <daja77_> they made security releases of all branches [14:04] <th> i see [14:04] <th> ahh and you want to switch the branch [14:04] <th> (..we use) [14:04] <daja77_> but i'd like to switch the branch on the way [14:05] <th> if there are no regressions... i'm all for it [14:05] <daja77_> ok [14:06] Nick change: netrunne1 -> netrunner [14:08] <th> i dislike the _cd1 prefix when creating one-cd iso only. [14:19] <th> th20060522-journal isos are uploading [14:24] <daja77_> grmpf [14:24] <daja77_> curl: (9) Server denied you to change to the given directory [14:31] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77 [14:35] <Lucifer_arma> it would be nice to hve some output to tell me which configuration is building and what target it's building [14:35] <Lucifer_arma> on the off chance that someone would be crazy/stupid enough to run two builds in different terminals simultaneously [14:35] <Lucifer_arma> goodnight :) [14:47] duhhh (n=duhhh@ip565668e1.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) joined #rocklinux. [14:48] duhhh (n=duhhh@ip565668e1.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) left irc: Client Quit [14:53] <daja77> ok posgres 8.1.4 builds fine [15:16] ringo (n=zorgmake@217.18.75.6) joined #rocklinux. [15:20] <blindcoder> btw, is anyone doig a reference build on the Roadmap stuff? th? fake? clifford? [15:51] <th> blindcoder: i've build a full reference for my current journal [15:51] <th> blindcoder: iso will be available shortly [15:54] <th> has any one time to do detailed testing of that iso? [15:54] <stf^rocklinux> th: I could do a test installation or two... [15:55] <th> that would help. i think i'll install it as well. but i'd like to have some more test results [15:55] <th> https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/unofficial/teha/th20060522/crystal-th20060522_cd1.iso [15:56] #rocklinux: mode change '+o th' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [15:56] Topic changed on #rocklinux by th!n=th@80.78.84.66: https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/unofficial/teha/th20060522/crystal-th20060522_cd1.iso [15:56] #rocklinux: mode change '-o th' by th!n=th@80.78.84.66 [16:03] <blindcoder> th: I can test it tomorrow [16:03] <th> cool [16:03] <blindcoder> th: what patches have you put into it? [16:03] <th> see /info.txt in same directory [16:03] <th> or see journal "th20060522" in smng [16:04] <th> based on r7592 [16:05] <blindcoder> looks sweet [16:05] <th> quite some important stuff in [16:05] <blindcoder> yeah [16:06] <blindcoder> guess I'll install it on crazyhorse tomorrow [16:06] <blindcoder> P4/RAMBus/NVidia Card [16:06] <th> would be cool if we test one installation as an update [16:06] <th> with the new mine feature ":legacy" [16:07] ringo (n=zorgmake@217.18.75.6) left irc: "Lost terminal" [16:07] <stf^rocklinux> th: I could do that in qemu [16:07] <th> ok. [16:07] <stf^rocklinux> th: is it pmmx optimized? [16:07] <th> i think i can try it on an old 2.0.3 [16:07] <th> stf^rocklinux: uhhh [16:08] <th> stf^rocklinux: it might be p2 this time [16:08] <th> export ROCKCFG_X86_OPT='pentium2' [16:08] <th> ack [16:08] <stf^rocklinux> ok [16:13] <th> aha [16:14] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:14] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-45eb56661c352da5) joined #rocklinux. [16:15] <th> why dont we have a rock-cloak? [16:15] <stf^rocklinux> th: so no install on my pmmx this time... btw. rocklinux.org looks kind of crappy in konqueror... the navigation bar is below the main text... [16:15] <daja77> which konqueror? [16:15] <th> stf^rocklinux: yea - clifford already pointed out. we need some CSS experience to fix it. [16:16] <th> daja77: not all of them [16:16] <stf^rocklinux> 3.5.2 here [16:16] <daja77> ok the recent one :/ [16:16] <stf^rocklinux> I'm just reading Mediawiki docs, maybe there's a hint there [16:17] <daja77> th: dunno, i had one in euirc [16:18] <th> i'm off till tonight now. cya [16:18] <daja77> cu [16:19] <stf^rocklinux> cu [16:21] <stf^rocklinux> there's also two other changes to the toolbar/navigation bar I'd like to make: 1) add a Download link to the navigation bar, and 2) move the Random page to the toolbox [16:22] <stf^rocklinux> oh, and 3) add iso.rocklinux.de to external links [16:22] <blindcoder> th: because I am fine with my tor/regular cloak :) [16:22] <daja77> just do it .. [16:25] <stf^rocklinux> it'd required admin privileges for rocklinux.org :( [16:25] <blindcoder> let's see [16:25] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: where do I change that? [16:26] <daja77> MediaWiki:Sidebar [16:26] <stf^rocklinux> yeah [16:27] <stf^rocklinux> haven't found the page for the toolbox yet [16:29] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I've created a Download page that could be linked to in the nav-bar btw. [16:29] <blindcoder> done [16:30] <stf^rocklinux> thx [16:30] <blindcoder> 2) move the Random page to the toolbox [16:30] <blindcoder> is still open [16:31] <stf^rocklinux> that's not that important [16:32] <stf^rocklinux> people like me might wonder why one should want to visit a random page ^^ [16:35] <daja77> you could remove the random page from sidebar [16:38] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-72fe1cff3b01d891) joined #rocklinux. [16:38] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [16:38] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [16:40] <daja77> this seems to be in the monobook style [16:40] <daja77> look how they changed everything https://www.wikihow.com/Main-Page [18:45] <stf^rocklinux> th: $topic requires misses udev{settle,trigger} in the initrd, see 2006052418410229579 [18:46] <th> hmmm [18:46] <th> i was almost sure that i did add that patch [18:46] <stf^rocklinux> the patch I mean is a hotfix I've just added [18:46] <th> ah [18:46] <th> damn. ok. [18:47] <th> that's a big showstopper i guess [18:47] <stf^rocklinux> yes, no /dev files in initrd :( [18:48] <th> hmmm.. what do i need to rebuild after changing target/bootdisk/initrd/initrd_bootdisk? [18:48] <stf^rocklinux> just ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg bootdisk [18:48] <th> k [18:54] <th> fixed - and syncing changed iso [18:55] <stf^rocklinux> can I somehow download the hotfix to the iso only? [18:57] <th> the binary delta is too big i'm afraid [18:57] <th> even rsync can't save a lot [19:02] <stf^rocklinux> ok, please tell me when syncing is done [19:04] <th> ok. i'll just replace the old iso [19:04] <th> isos [19:05] <th> done [19:06] <th> stf^rocklinux: u can redownload now [19:06] <stf^rocklinux> ok [21:23] <stf^rocklinux> daja: qemu update is here curl -O https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/unofficial/teha/th20060522/crystal-th20060522_cd1.iso [21:23] <stf^rocklinux> [21:23] <stf^rocklinux> err... [21:23] <stf^rocklinux> here 2006052421225016810 [21:26] <stf^rocklinux> daja77: now building qemu when gcc4 is default compiler works :) (qemu still cannot be built with gcc4, however) [21:48] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-037-183.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:00] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-032-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:09] <th> stf^rocklinux: this means we need to add another compiler? [22:09] <stf^rocklinux> th: if you want to build qemu, yes [22:09] <stf^rocklinux> th: but qemu is not part of Crystal [22:10] <th> ahh ok [22:11] <stf^rocklinux> btw. we should really add linux-sources to Crystal, adding external kernel modules without it is difficult :( [22:12] <th> i totally agree [22:13] <stf^rocklinux> I'll create a patch for that... [22:15] <stf^rocklinux> th: 2006052422145430967 [22:16] <th> stf^rocklinux: i'll add it to my next journal then. [22:21] <stf^rocklinux> so downloading your latest iso didn't work here yet, but I'm currently testing my journal build which is quite similar... [22:21] <th> downloading didn't work? [22:23] <stf^rocklinux> 0 bytes transferred until now... maybe the internet connection here is overloaded or blocked :S [22:23] <stf^rocklinux> seems to be a local problem [22:27] <daja77_> re [22:59] <stf^rocklinux> wb daja77. qemu update is here: 2006052421225016810 [23:05] <daja77_> mom [23:21] <daja77_> hm you split up the package [23:30] <stf^rocklinux> yes, kqemu can (now) be built completely independent of qemu, and building both in one package is more complicated than necessary... [23:31] <daja77_> can they be installed in parallel? [23:31] <stf^rocklinux> yes, kqemu contains only the kernel module [23:32] <daja77_> nice [00:00] --- Thu May 25 2006