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[06:36] <blindcoder> moin
[10:08] <blindcoder> three days of total inactivity
[10:14] <blindcoder> 176 patches in the queue
[10:15] <blindcoder> *sigh*
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[10:36] <th> ok. did i wake up anyone?
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[10:56] <blindcoder> hey, there's actually activity again?
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[11:01] <blindcoder> hey, sweet :)
[11:02] <rocklogbot> foo
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[11:07] <blindcoder> anyone here?
[11:07] <SMP> sure
[11:08] <blindcoder> where has the "Send emails on special events" option gone?
[11:08] <blindcoder> oh, nevermind
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[12:00] <rocklogbot> bc_journal_20060607: linux-libc-headers finished in stage 0
[12:00] <blindcoder> \o/
[12:01] <blindcoder> if he pisses you off, feel free to kick him
[12:01] <blindcoder> at least we get some activity this way :P
[12:01] <rocklogbot> bc_journal_20060607: linux-libc-headers finished in stage 0
[12:02] <blindcoder> th: if you like, apply 2006060711470625400 and send mail to rocklogbot@crash-override.net
[12:02] <blindcoder> th: the output is the configuration name
[12:02] <blindcoder> and with that, I'm off to lunch
[12:06] <rocklogbot> bc_journal_20060607: glibc23 finished in stage 0
[12:10] <th> i started an refbuild again
[12:10] <th> stf's journal
[12:11] <th> blindcoder: this wouldpropably require a configured MTA
[12:11] <th> or does it speak smtp?
[12:11] <th> can't we use http instead of mail?
[12:12] <th> http is cool
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[13:12] <blindcod1r> th: I'll think of a http way
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[13:21] <th> blindcoder: that would rock.
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[14:37] <rocklogbot> default: failed in stage 1
[14:37] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:37] <blindcoder> almost
[14:38] <th> would be cool if i could change a notification script while build is running
[14:39] <blindcoder> change a notification script?
[14:40] <rocklogbot> default: failed in stage 1
[14:41] <blindcoder> this is strange
[14:41] <blindcoder> if [ -f ${build_root}/var/adm/logs/$stagelevel-$pkg_name.err -a \
[14:41] <blindcoder> "$ROCKCFG_HTTP" = 1 ]
[14:41] <blindcoder> then
[14:41] <blindcoder> {
[14:41] <blindcoder> query=${ROCKCFG_HTTP_SITE}
[14:42] <blindcoder> query=${query//PACKAGE/$pkg_name}
[14:42] <blindcoder> why is $pkg_name unset in that last line?
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[14:46] <th> blindcoder: do you have to use {} when you are inside a ${}?
[14:47] <rocklogbot> default: failed in stage 1
[14:49] <blindcoder> th: I tried both
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[14:54] <rocklogbot> default: failed in stage 1
[14:55] <blindcoder> argh
[14:55] <blindcoder> I'm looking at the wrong code >_<
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[14:58] <blindcoder> almost
[15:01] <rocklogbot> default: linux-libc-headers failed in stage 0
[15:01] <rocklogbot> default: linux-libc-headers finished in stage 0
[15:01] <rocklogbot> default: Build finished!
[15:01] <daja77> O_o
[15:02] <blindcoder> doesn't work correctly yet
[15:02] <blindcoder> will look at it later
[15:02] <daja77> hi blindcoder :)
[15:02] <blindcoder> meanwhile, use the patch and mail to rocklogbot@crash-override.net :D
[15:02] <blindcoder> bbl
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[17:37] <stf^rocklinux> moin
[17:37] <stf^rocklinux> th: I've added three more patches (which where already in SubMaster) to my bugfix journal
[17:39] <stf^rocklinux> th: btw. what optimization do you use for your test build? I could build the same with another opt. (e.g. Pentium III vs. Pentium-MMX)
[17:45] <blindcoder> re
[17:45] <stf^rocklinux> daja77: you're right. build results flood the IRC channel too much...
[17:45] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder :)
[17:45] <blindcoder> as if there is any discussion going on anyway
[17:45] <rocklogbot> bc_journal_20060607: Build finished!.
[17:46] <daja77> blindcoder: i hate it to switch to the chan and just see junk messages
[17:46] <daja77> iirc esden was talking about commit info
[17:46] <stf^rocklinux> I think it would be really nice to have the build results available on a web site, together with links to the build logs
[17:50] <blindcoder> daja77: /ignore is your friend :P
[17:50] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: well, that's something everyone has to do for himself
[17:50] <stf^rocklinux> the results alone (finished/failed) are not of much use. If a build fails one usually needs to know the exact build error to fix it (sometimes also exact svn rev.)
[17:51] <daja77> yep
[17:53] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: make a suggestion
[17:53] <blindcoder> we don't have a build server
[17:53] <blindcoder> we don't have a common server to put our logs onto
[17:53] <blindcoder> and we don't want to remember everyone's hostname
[17:53] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: but it would be possible to redirect build results and logs to a web site instead of IRC.
[17:54] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: yeah, we'd need such a common server first
[17:55] <stf^rocklinux> then maybe give access to developers who could do test builds and make the results available online
[17:56] <blindcoder> well, once you have such a setup, I'll be happy to implement something
[17:56] <blindcoder> maybe someone could take over the lead of ROCK
[17:56] <blindcoder> or we could agree on someone to take over the lead
[17:56] <blindcoder> until then
[17:57] <blindcoder> I'm going to play X² now :D
[17:57] <blindcoder> ooh, two more crystal bugs
[17:58] <stf^rocklinux> let's bug fake to set up a server for build logs (and for single package downloads, while we're at it) ^^
[18:01] <blindcoder> wasn't that what gems.rocklinux.org was meant to be?
[18:01] <stf^rocklinux> yes
[18:05] <stf^rocklinux> I asked fake about it recently, and IIRC he said he was lacking the time to set it up :(
[18:05] <blindcoder> what's so difficult about it?
[18:05] <blindcoder> a webserver and an account
[18:05] <blindcoder> thankyouverymuch
[18:07] <stf^rocklinux> well, I don't know. But I could be really simple and still be useful...
[18:11] <stf^rocklinux> btw. afaics we have already taken the lead of ROCK. In fact, everybody can take the lead in certain parts as long as there are no objections :)
[18:12] <blindcoder> well, we need a central lead dev
[18:12] <blindcoder> someone who can make hard decisions
[18:12] <blindcoder> oh, and maybe someone who can edit rl.net
[18:14] <stf^rocklinux> I totally agree on rl.net
[18:16] <stf^rocklinux> we need a 'decision maker' at least when there's no consent on a certain topic
[18:17] <stf^rocklinux> for personal packages, that's the respective package maintainer, of course
[18:18] <stf^rocklinux> for core parts we have usually reached a consent on each topic
[18:19] <stf^rocklinux> I guess if we had like 100 developers, we'd need a lead dev more often ^^
[18:19] <stf^rocklinux> bb in 30 min
[18:23] <blindcoder> I don't think we agree on that many topics
[18:45] <stf^rocklinux> re
[18:46] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: e.g?
[18:48] <blindcoder> 2006050708310887900
[18:50] <blindcoder> releases
[18:50] <stf^rocklinux> hm, I'm not using device-mapper, so I haven't followed the discussion that goes with it...
[18:51] <blindcoder> feature freezes
[18:51] <blindcoder> handling of trunk
[18:51] <blindcoder> and I still think that people are split 50/50 about submaster
[18:57] <stf^rocklinux> feel free to propose release and feature freeze guideline :)
[18:58] <stf^rocklinux> I would certainly take my time to read and comment on them
[19:00] <th> daja77: you can set a non-activity highlight for it in irssi
[19:00] <daja77> huh?
[19:00] <th> and it would be possible to put the links to everyone's hostname into wiki
[19:02] <stf^rocklinux> With submaster, I can see no real alternative. Either we'd give commit access to everyone, or ROCK developers again would have to collect (and keep track of) patches manually from the mailing lists.
[19:02] <th> daja77: "< daja77> blindcoder: i hate it to switch to the chan and just see junk messages"
[19:02] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: well, I'd be happy with the access thingie
[19:02] <stf^rocklinux> I do agree that it is missing many comfort features
[19:02] <daja77> i'll have a look
[19:03] <th> daja77: so you can use regexps to make these messages appear just like join/quit messages or nick changes
[19:03] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: at least that would probably bring visible life back to the projcet
[19:03] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: with everyone I mean everyone who fills out a web form o_O
[19:03] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: I think I already did a useful proposal on that
[19:04] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: https://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/SuggestionForNewCommitModel
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[19:08] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: afaict that's the model we use right now and which is generally accepted (SubMaster doesn't auto-apply patches to personal repos yet, but that's a missing feature).
[19:09] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: which means that currently devs with commit access have to do the "auto-apply"...
[19:09] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: it's missing for how long now?
[19:09] <blindcoder> with the current activity clifford exposes I believe it'll be missing for a long time to come
[19:09] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: don't ask ^^
[19:11] <daja77> since march
[19:11] <stf^rocklinux> well, if Clifford doesn't have time to do it, someone else will have to.
[19:11] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: how much SPL do you know?
[19:11] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: and how much access do you have to the server submaster is running on?
[19:11] <stf^rocklinux> but keep in mind that he completely rewrote SM since march
[19:12] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I know C, that should be a good starting point
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[19:15] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I could give Clifford a call or write him an email to get changes to submaster online, after all he didn't take off in a spaceship :)
[19:18] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: I wonder about that
[19:18] <blindcoder> mental spaceship
[19:19] <stf^rocklinux> I noticed he held two speeches at Linuxtage Wien last week
[19:21] <stf^rocklinux> I mean Linuxwochen Wien
[19:22] <daja77> yeah sure you need weeks for it :p
[19:23] <stf^rocklinux> and I meant he didn't held two speeches, but four lectures
[19:23] <stf^rocklinux> see https://www.linuxwochen.at/2006/Programm_Wien:_Index
[19:31] <stf^rocklinux> or take a look at the Metalab Vienna: https://metalab.at/wiki/Hauptseite
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[21:54] <th> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg boot
[21:54] <th> 152 builds total, 152 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[21:54] <th> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg crystal
[21:54] <th> 342 builds total, 10 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[21:54] <th> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg bbs
[21:54] <th> 214 builds total, 214 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[21:54] <th> so much for status
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[22:00] <stf^rocklinux> th: nice :)
[22:01] <stf^rocklinux> th: I've added three bugfixes to my journal (which have already been in SubMaster)
[22:01] <th> ahh ok. too late. for this build. will put them in the next.
[22:01] <th> which could start tomorrow then
[22:02] <th> or in two days
[22:02] <stf^rocklinux> th: they require only a rockinitrd rebuild
[22:02] <th> ah ok
[22:02] <stf^rocklinux> the last three patches in my journal
[22:03] <stf^rocklinux> one is livecd specific
[22:04] <stf^rocklinux> (so not really a subject to test builds)
[22:14] <stf^rocklinux> in my journal one patch was in the wrong order, so didn't apply (smap leaves it in the ROCK base dir).
[22:16] <stf^rocklinux> I mean this patch: 2006053023244423861
[22:20] <th> i hand-fixed that one.
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