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[00:54] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-c827e3985cc14798) joined #rocklinux. [00:54] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:58] <owl> re [02:50] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-096-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:54] <owl> .oO( wow, that was much communication for today guys. wanna reach the record in how-not-much-can-be-spoken-a-channel-record? O_O ) [02:57] <mnemoc> *g* [02:57] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-104-008.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:57] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [02:58] <owl> mnemoc: what do you wanna tell us? :) [02:59] <mnemoc> i hate techno [02:59] <owl> aaaaehm. techno? O_O aeh. speaking/communication->techno. i can't follow your thougts O_O [03:00] <mnemoc> loveparade [03:00] <owl> ok. techno. loveparade. two words. wtf ...??? [03:00] <mnemoc> :) [03:01] <owl> btw, did i mentioned already, that i received a RL-hug today? [03:02] <mnemoc> uhm? [03:02] <owl> i have a visitor in my room... right now... :) [03:02] <mnemoc> .oO [03:02] <owl> yes? ;) [03:03] Action: mnemoc waits for the details [03:03] <owl> hrhr. a good friend of mine... [03:03] <owl> well... 2nd RL-meeting... i drove about 160 km to catch him... ;) [03:04] <mnemoc> .oO [03:04] <mnemoc> daja? [03:04] <owl> naaah! [03:04] <mnemoc> :p [03:05] <mnemoc> speak clear [03:05] <mnemoc> i'm quite sleepy [03:05] <owl> you don't know him ;) [03:05] <mnemoc> :) [03:06] <owl> well... dunno... ;) [03:08] <owl> .oO( at least he's a) geek, b) i trust him enough to hand him my thinkpad over O_O ) [03:10] <mnemoc> and i don't know him [03:10] <owl> yeah ;) [03:42] <owl> in what way are women strange? [03:42] <mnemoc> you are too deep for me tonight :( i fear i'll have to go to sleep [03:44] <mnemoc> gn8, greetings to your unknown former-rocker [03:45] <owl> *lol* former-rocker? :P [03:45] <owl> nah, he's bsd-guy... [03:45] <owl> gn8 mnemoc [03:45] <mnemoc> :) [03:45] <mnemoc> gn8 owl, and gn8 bsd-guy [03:45] <owl> *g* [03:49] <owl> gn8 mnemoc [03:49] <owl> .oO( wtf am i repeating myself? ) [04:46] owl (n=owl@193.93.28.218) left irc: "Lost terminal" [04:49] owl (n=owl@193.93.28.218) joined #rocklinux. [06:03] rainbow (n=rainbow@210-84-33-228.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #rocklinux. [06:04] Nick change: rainbow -> RainbowTSC [06:05] <RainbowTSC> mm all, looking for some help with su. I got Module is unknown error [06:12] RainbowTSC (n=rainbow@210-84-33-228.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:15] RainbowTSC (n=rainbow@210-84-33-228.dyn.iinet.net.au) joined #rocklinux. [06:36] RainbowTSC (n=rainbow@210-84-33-228.dyn.iinet.net.au) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [06:58] brian|lfs (n=Brian@216-15-45-30.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com) joined #rocklinux. 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[17:33] <blindcoder> moin [17:41] <blindcoder> wow, even fefe has now realized what a bunch of crap the modularisation in x.org 7 is [17:45] <stf^rocklinux> moin blindcoder [17:45] <stf^rocklinux> why? [17:47] <fake> moin [17:48] <fake> stf^rocklinux: https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=ba46957d [17:50] <stf^rocklinux> hm, he's wrong in at least one point, package dependencies are documented quite well in a shell script... [17:50] <stf^rocklinux> that's were I got them from. [17:54] <fake> stf^rocklinux: can yo confirm that in the RC, in konqueror in the top right search box, the icons for the search engines are missing? [17:54] <fake> stf^rocklinux: oh, and i found out what modalias_ieee1394 is used for, udev complains on my laptop [17:54] <fake> stf^rocklinux: so i'm going to move the patch to the fixes queue [17:55] <stf^rocklinux> fake: nack, in the google search box, next to the address bar, there's a google symbol as well. [17:55] <stf^rocklinux> fake: that's the only search engine available here. [17:56] <blindcoder> no release this week after all? [17:57] <fake> blindcoder: not yet. but RC3 should be it, i'll start building now. there were some mine/:legacy packages/... issues. [17:58] <fake> stf^rocklinux: okay, nevermind. [17:58] <fake> stf^rocklinux: if you click on the google icon, some more should pop up... [17:58] <fake> stf^rocklinux: wikipedia, freshmeat, et alas [18:00] <fake> stf^rocklinux: if you like, you could take a look at the changes i did to mine [18:00] <blindcoder> fake: nice [18:00] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, there are more... never noticed until now :) [18:01] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i boosted the functionality of memdb.c, so it can now remove items by key, and also sort the list with arbitrary sorting functions [18:01] <stf^rocklinux> fake: already did ;) installed crystal-vanilla-7663 and updated with my latest RC2 like test build, looks very good so far :) [18:01] <fake> stf^rocklinux: that way, the order of lines in the packages flist file is not relevant anymore. so removing :legacy packages has a higher chance of also removing directories, because they were written the other way round [18:02] <fake> valgrind says i loos ~600 bytes per installation, but i suspect libtar... [18:02] <fake> *loose [18:03] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i tested mine25linux261625test_cd1.iso last night ;) [18:03] <fake> one ugly thing still remains wrt. package removal - ldconfig creates symlinks to .so files... [18:04] <fake> which don't belong to the package [18:04] <fake> the links, the .so files do, of course [18:04] <stf^rocklinux> we could create those symlinks at build time [18:05] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:05] <fake> yes, we really should. but we don't atm ;) [18:16] <fake> arghl [18:16] <stf^rocklinux> ? [18:18] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i suspect your deferred package disabling patch [18:18] <fake> stf^rocklinux: configure a bootdisk, and start ./scripts/Download -cfg bootdisk -required [18:18] <fake> (remove, for example, the lprng download before) [18:19] <fake> there is no reason why it should download lprng [18:21] <fake> stf^rocklinux: with your patch 2006071321320713626 applied, there are 255 packages enabled in the bootdisk [18:21] <stf^rocklinux> hm [18:21] <fake> stf^rocklinux: without, 113 [18:21] <fake> it doesn't affect crystal because of the CORE flag [18:24] <blindcoder> fake: btw, rocklinux.org needs a new certificate [18:25] <fake> blindcoder: wait, it was 10 years valid... ? [18:26] <fake> ;-) [18:26] <fake> blindcoder: i'll get to that later, now i'm gonna visit the golden arches [18:26] <fake> RC3 build is running [18:26] <blindcoder> ah, no [18:27] <blindcoder> that's because the cert is for .net, but the mediawiki mails point to .org [18:27] <fake> blindcoder: yes, thats because we only have one server for both :( [18:28] Action: fake mcd, bbl [18:39] <stf^rocklinux> fake: with my patch, there are more packages enabled in bootdisk target because of this line in target/bootdisk/config.in: [18:39] <stf^rocklinux> # Disable packages which are not in base or not build in stages 0-4 [18:39] <stf^rocklinux> / base / ! { s/^X /O /; p; d; }; /^. -----/ { s/^X /O /; p; d; }; [18:46] <stf^rocklinux> I could move pkgforking in linux from config.in to preconfig.in, or adapt target/bootdisk/config.in to take ? and X stage flags into account. [18:46] <stf^rocklinux> anyway, I'm going jogging now, bbl [18:51] <owl> re [18:52] <blindcoder> moin owl [18:52] <owl> hi blindcoder ;) [19:54] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Client Quit [20:50] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-ac9f58b62f4beabb) joined #rocklinux. [22:09] <mnemoc> hi, anyone knows how the init of a cramfs initrd has to be named to be executed instead of skiped and panic-ing because root= is not there? :( [22:17] <blindcoder> /sbin/init [22:18] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1080P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [22:18] <blindcoder> but if the kernel complains about missing root= device, then you have another problem [22:18] <blindcoder> you need a) cramfs support in the kernel (guess you have that) [22:18] <blindcoder> b) root=/dev/ram0 [22:18] <blindcoder> c) in your bootloader, you need to load the initrd (grub: initrd command) [22:19] <th> or you need to switch to initramfs ;-) [22:19] <th> because this changes there [22:19] <th> root= is irrelevant and free for use of your 2nd stage [22:20] <th> aehm. free for use in your first stage to determine root of 2nd stage [22:23] <blindcoder> so how does the kernel get to know to use initramfs? [22:23] <blindcoder> sorry, I've probably asked that question a few dozen times already [22:23] <blindcoder> forget it [22:23] <blindcoder> I just remembered [22:24] <th> blindcoder: it knows because it sees the cpio [22:24] <th> is that what you remembered? [22:25] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [22:26] <esden> oha ... call for papers from CCC ... so early? [22:26] <mnemoc> root=/dev/ram0?? o_O [22:26] <mnemoc> f* :( [22:26] <mnemoc> i'll have to read more about initramfs probably [22:28] <mnemoc> it's stupid that the initrd has to be pointed by root= :'( [22:32] <owl> re [22:36] <mnemoc> wb owl [22:40] <owl> thx [22:40] <owl> i am half-dead [22:46] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [22:50] <mnemoc> o.o [22:51] <owl> mnemoc: ? :) [22:51] <owl> heh, i've never talked that much like the last 24 hours or so [22:53] <mnemoc> :) [23:02] <owl> hmmm? [23:03] <mnemoc> women [23:03] <mnemoc> th: is the initramfs restricted to the ramdisk size supported by the kernel? [23:04] <owl> women?...? [23:08] <th> mnemoc: no [23:09] <mnemoc> th: cool :) [23:12] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [23:28] <fake> re [23:28] <fake> the junghanns.net quad GSM PCI card rocks. [23:29] <fake> from Voicemail-fallback to GSM-then-voicemail-fallback including hardware setup and dialplan adoptions in < 3h [23:30] <owl> wb fake [23:44] <SMP> you can do hours and hours of calls into celluar networks through expensive PSTN gateways for the price of that card ... [23:45] <fake> SMP: true, but then again, my employer didn't care ;-) [23:46] <SMP> sheesh ;) [23:46] <fake> plus, calls to company-contracted phones are free [23:47] <fake> still trying to get the smses free, too ;-) [23:54] <netrunner> hm, the thought of not being able to watch tv when going to bed keeps me at the keyboard ;) [23:57] <fake> is the epia broken? ;) [23:58] <fake> what are you watching, anyways? anything interesting? [23:58] <fake> Face/Off? [00:00] --- Mon Jul 17 2006