--- Log opened Mon Sep 16 00:00:50 2002
--- Day changed Mon Sep 16 2002
00:27 < fake> hi
00:27 < fake> ...
00:30 < tsa> hi fake..
00:33 < fake> hi tsa
00:34 < fake> so finally i am back on the net
00:34 * fake just got his wlan-card working
00:35 < fake> if just somebody had told me to "ifconfig up" it after iwconfig...
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00:36 < tsa> hehe..
00:38 * fake is now officially located in Ingolstadt, Bonn is history.
00:38 < tsa> how come?
00:41 < fake> tsa: the company i worked for in bonn is-no-more(tm)
00:41 < fake> now i am finishing my training in munich
00:42 < fake> and getting a flat in munich is pretty hard, so i live at my mum's for now
00:42 < tsa> i see..
00:43 < fake> i will finally start work on rock again tomorrow
00:43 < fake> now that my wlan works ;)
00:46 < fake> and now i'm off again, sleeping
00:47 < fake> scheiss pendeln... muss um 6:30 aufstehen damit ich um 9 anfangen kann ... -_-
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01:58 < tsa> n8
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02:43 < mnemoc> hi
02:45 < mnemoc> i had a little problem building package glibc on my rh 7.2... now all i get i segfault
02:46 < mnemoc> booting with the img of 1.5.19 i did mount mi ext3 rh's root forcing etx2
02:46 < mnemoc> i can relink /lib to my original glibc 2.2.4 but after umounting it everything is undone :<
02:47 < mnemoc> any idea?
02:47 < mnemoc> do you have any rescue disk wih ext3 support?
02:47 < mnemoc> is that the problem or i have a gremlin around?
02:47 < mnemoc> pleeeease
02:49 < mnemoc> :(
02:50 < mnemoc> (i was trying to build 1.7 on a rh7.2 over a P3)
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03:06 < mnemoc_> anybody here?
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03:19 < mnemoc_> ...
03:20 < mnemoc_> please :(
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03:30 < mnemoc> how could everybody being away? :( i just need an advice
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04:20 < mnemoc> hello?
04:20 < SMP> well
04:21 < mnemoc> can you help me with a problem with glibc?
04:22 < SMP> what exactly did you do when you were "building package glibc on my rh 7.2"?
04:22 < mnemoc> i have a redhat 7.2 on my box
04:22 < mnemoc> and i did Build-pkg glibc
04:23 < SMP> eww
04:23 < mnemoc> :<
04:23 < SMP> why the hell did you do that?
04:23 < mnemoc> i don't know :\
04:23 < SMP> you need to reinstall the glibc.rpm
04:23 < mnemoc> i tried to revert it fixing the links
04:24 < mnemoc> and it worked.... in a chroot env
04:24 < mnemoc> but after umounting my root everything was undone :<
04:24 < SMP> not quite
04:25 < SMP> you mean "after a reboot"?
04:25 < mnemoc> no...
04:25 < mnemoc> the redhat dies
04:25 < mnemoc> booting rock 1.4
04:26 < mnemoc> i did mount my dead root
04:26 < mnemoc> fix the links
04:26 < mnemoc> sync
04:26 < mnemoc> umount
04:26 < mnemoc> but if i remount it, i can see that all the cahnges were gone
04:26 < SMP> hu
04:27 < mnemoc> i guess because it's ext3, and i force it to mount as ext2
04:27 < SMP> hmm, yes that may be
04:28 < mnemoc> any idea?
04:28 < SMP> you should clear the has_journal flag
04:28 < SMP> then fsck and then mount
04:28 < mnemoc> fsck.ext2?
04:28 < SMP> hmm no
04:28 < mnemoc> how could i clear that flag?
04:29 < SMP> 1.4 doesn't have a tune2fs that knows about has_journal
04:29 < SMP> ;-(
04:29 < mnemoc> :(
04:29 < mnemoc> 1.5.19?
04:29 < mnemoc> i have that too
04:29 < mnemoc> (i just finish donwloading it)
04:29 < SMP> I guess that will do
04:30 < SMP> tune2fs -O ^has_journal /path/to/device ; fsck -t ext2 -f /path/to/device
04:30 < mnemoc> after or before fixing the links?
04:31 < SMP> prior to anything else
04:31 < mnemoc> after that i'll have an ext2?
04:31 < SMP> yeah well
04:32 < SMP> hmmm
04:33 < SMP> I'm not too sure about all this
04:33 < SMP> you sound very strange
04:33 < SMP> no offence ;>
04:33 < SMP> 1.5.19 should be able to handle ext3 just fine
04:33 < mnemoc> my english or what i'm talking about?
04:35 < SMP> oh, I can understand you fine, it's just I can't completely explain it
04:35 < mnemoc> ext3 is not supported by the kernel that boots the 1.5.19 cdrom :<
04:35 < mnemoc> i'll do the tunefs
04:35 < SMP> oh
04:36 < SMP> also, just fixing the links won't help completely
04:36 < mnemoc> ldconfig?
04:36 < SMP> ldconfig will undo that
04:36 < mnemoc> ?
04:36 < SMP> you need to move away the bad libs and then run ldconfig
04:37 < mnemoc> ldconfig preferes that newest?
04:37 < mnemoc> s/that/the
04:37 < SMP> sort of
04:38 < mnemoc> # tune2fs -O.... "this is the El torito (cd-rom boot) ....."
04:39 < SMP> do you have a swap partition?
04:39 < mnemoc> yep
04:39 < SMP> how big is it?
04:39 < mnemoc> 512
04:39 < SMP> mkfs it, mount it
04:39 < mnemoc> and i have the 8GB i wanted to use with rock
04:39 < SMP> then tar xvspIf ../subdists/rescue.tar.bz2
04:39 < SMP> on it
04:40 < mnemoc> that sounds great :D
04:41 < SMP> the kernel in the rescue system should support ext2
04:41 < SMP> ehm. ext3
04:41 < SMP> at least as a module
04:42 < SMP> so if you want to try, you can even with a little tweaking in /etc boot into it
04:43 < mnemoc> subdists has install-disk.tar.bz2 and rock-readonly.tar.bz2 .... not recue :<
04:43 < SMP> arrgh
04:43 < SMP> what did they do to my rescue subdist?!
04:44 < mnemoc> :D
04:44 < mnemoc> kill them all
04:46 < mnemoc> abaout glibc.... if i fix links, delete 2.2.5 and then ldconfig.... may it work?
04:46 < SMP> it should
04:47 < SMP> I'm not even sure as to why RH broke in the first place
04:47 < SMP> just installing 2.2.5 doesn't hurt anyone
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04:47 < SMP> well, apart from that rpm be complaining badly ;}
04:48 < mnemoc> :)
04:48 < mnemoc> i was builing glibc pkg from 1.7 and after some time a got a segfault
04:48 < mnemoc> after that... everything was segfaulted
04:49 < mnemoc> i run ldconfig succesfull, than reboot and ... no more redhat
04:49 < mnemoc> init crashed
04:49 < mnemoc> sh crashed...
04:50 < SMP> make a note: don't do a standalone Build-Pkg without practicing first. never ever Build-Pkg glibc unless you know exactly what you're doing
04:50 < SMP> ;>
04:51 < mnemoc> i had builden glibc before .. over redhat... but by hand :<
04:53 < mnemoc> i was trying to build a 'base' rock usign Build-Pkg because rescue had X11 and many other things
04:54 * mnemoc acted stupidly :'(
04:54 < SMP> Build-Pkg doen't do what you think it does ;)
04:55 < mnemoc> how is supossed that i should 'start'? ... 1.5 -base was useful
04:55 < mnemoc> building a generic with X11 and corelpaint?
04:56 < mnemoc> :{
04:56 < acm_scl> is a clean way to Build a src whithout need to installit and then Build the tar.bz2??
04:56 < acm_scl> btw, HI to all
04:56 < acm_scl> :]
04:56 < mnemoc> hi
04:59 < SMP> mnemoc: you need to remove the unwanted packages from the build system (by deleting them in the tree and running Puzzle or by editing scripts/packages and _not_ running Puzzle afterwards)
04:59 < SMP> and then do a normal Build-All
04:59 < SMP> there is no easy way in 1.5
04:59 < SMP> this is fixed in 1.7
05:02 < mnemoc> i should remove them from ./scripts/Config and then Puzzle?
05:02 < SMP> no, from base-config
05:03 < SMP> i.e. to remove sendmail, do rm -rf base-config/sendmail ; ./scripts/Puzzle
05:03 < mnemoc> ok
05:05 < mnemoc> thanks for all
05:06 < SMP> np
05:16 < mnemoc> i have my rh back!!!! :>
05:16 < mnemoc> happy happy joy joy
05:16 < mnemoc> thanks SMP
05:17 < mnemoc> see you soon :}
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06:29 < huebi> moin
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07:07 < huebi> vsftpd is now in 1.5.19
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09:36 < [anders]> meow
09:36 < [anders]> how are people today then? everyone had a nice weekend?
10:53 < praenti> moin
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10:53 < martin_> hi all
10:53 < martin_> hi rxr? ups
11:03 < huebi> moin praenti
11:03 < huebi> moin [anders]
11:06 < esden> hi all
11:07 < esden> have I read it correctly ? rh  ? mnemoc seems to be a total moron ... >_<
11:10 < praenti> hi esden. moron?
11:13 < esden> praenti: read irc log 04:55 to 05:17
11:13 < esden> today morning
11:13 < huebi> moin esden
11:13 < praenti> esden: i've seen that. but i dont understand the word moron. i would say he is complete dau who dont want to read documentation ;.)
11:24 < esden> nono ... that is not what I meant
11:24 < esden> that is right that this guy is not reading enough 
11:25 < esden> but I meant this: "[05:16] < mnemoc> i have my rh back!!!! :>"
11:25 < esden>                                                        ^^
11:25 < esden> ups
11:25 < esden>                                                ^^
11:26 < esden> that is what I meant
11:26 < esden> this is "rh" and what that shauld mean ?
11:26 < esden> I hope not RotKaeppchen !
11:26 < esden> that is why I said moron
11:27 < esden> praenti: moron = depp
11:31 < praenti> that is another point why i say dau
11:31 * praenti now away at lunch
11:35 < esden> hmm ... not good ... I have to fix my mozilla !
11:35 < esden> guys do you already know about the mozilla referrer bug ?
11:36 < esden> it is a privicy bug ...
11:39 < esden> https://members.ping.de/~sven/mozbug/refcook.html
11:39 < esden> ok cu all
12:07 < praenti> re
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15:19 < praenti> huebi: if anybody needs a dyndns address from the rock developer i've rocklinux.homelinux.com/net/org
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15:22 < Mike1> Good day all
15:24 < praenti> hi Mike1
15:27 < [anders]> meep Mike1
15:27 < [anders]> <- tired and got too much to do..
15:28 < esden> hi all
15:53 < Mike1> hi praenti [anders]
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15:53 < Mike1> masters esden :)
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15:59 < esden> hi Mike1 
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16:18 < xlock> huhu
16:19 < xlock> hmm, libtermcap.so is missing on my root-disk
16:20 < xlock> ... and kdebase requires cracklib (drock)
16:21 < esden> hi 
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17:07 < tcr> moin all
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17:21 < d3mian> hi all
17:27 < Mike1> hi d3mian
17:28 < d3mian> Mike1: !!
17:29 < d3mian> i have several probs with gnome using 1.5.19 :(
17:29 < d3mian> ilegal instruction (core dumped)
17:30 < Mike1> d3mian: i have not worked on 1.5.19 yet
17:30 < Mike1> is it still using gnome1?
17:30 * Mike1 is totally sure it is
17:31 < d3mian> huebi told me he will do some tests for gnome2 this week, meanwhile gnome1
17:31 < Mike1> sure
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18:19 < Mike1> re tcr
18:19 < tcr> yo ;-)
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19:10 < Mike1> hackbard: !!
19:10 < hackbard> Mike1 !! :)
19:10 < hackbard> hola!
19:10 < Mike1> how are you ?
19:10 < hackbard> fine thanx, i am right now at syrx's place
19:12 < hackbard> how are you?
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19:14 < martin_> hi
19:14 < tcr> moin
19:22 < Mike1> ls
19:22 < litost>  no such file or directory
19:22 < Mike1> *g
19:22 < Mike1> @ litost :)
19:23 < litost> 8)
19:23 < litost> what's up Mike1
19:23 < Mike1> nothing much my friend working a lot as usual
19:23 < Mike1> you ?
19:24 < Mike1> and working hard on getting my voice back
19:24 < litost> same here, i'm at my boring job
19:24 * Mike1 is sick and he's voice went away since friday
19:24 < Mike1> litost: my job is not boring at all, it keeps me very busy
19:25 < litost> that's good, i'm kinda tired of mine
19:26 < Mike1> litost: i just sent my resumee to a couple of companies i wanna get out of here too, but i guess it is for different reasons than yours
19:27 < litost> yea, probably so.  i'm going  to start the job hunt soon.
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19:36 < Mike1> coldie_: Hi Jeff :)
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20:24 < _NULL> hi
20:32 < blindcoder> hi du NULL :)
20:33 < _NULL> hi blindcoder
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21:09 < esden> hi al
21:09 < esden> l
21:09 < Mike1> wb esden
21:09 < esden> blindcoder: are you here !!!
21:09 < esden> wb Mike1 
21:09 < blindcoder> nope
21:09 < esden> good
21:09 < blindcoder> hi esden
21:09 < _NULL> hi esden, hi Mike1
21:09 < esden> ok ich muss mit dir reden
21:10 < blindcoder> scheiss äh schiess los :)
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21:10 < Mike1> re hackbard
21:11 < hackbard> hi gain
21:11 < hackbard> again*
21:11 < Mike1> +a
21:11 < Mike1> :)
21:11 < _NULL> hi hackbard
21:12 < blindcoder> hi hackbard
21:14 * _NULL is looking for her bed right now. 
21:14 < _NULL> g8. cu
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21:16 < esden> hi hackbard 
21:16 < hackbard> hi blindcoder ,hi esden
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21:24 < rxr> #join gsmp
21:24 < rxr> uups
21:25 < blindcoder> g'night evryone...
21:25 < Mike1> n8 cap blindcoder
21:26 < Mike1> hi rxr
21:26 < rxr> hi Mike1
21:26 < rxr> irrsi has crashed here ...
21:26 < rxr> strange ...
21:33 < Mike1> huebi: awake?
21:38 < esden> hi rxr
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21:43 < tsa> moin.
21:43 < Mike1> hi tsa
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21:44 < esden> hi tsa
21:44 < tsa> hi Mike1
21:44 < tsa> hi esden
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21:51 < tsa> rotfl.
21:51 < tsa> https://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020915
21:53 < rxr> n8
21:54 < esden> n8 rxr
21:56 < tsa> cu rxr
22:19 < huebi> moin ;-)
22:20 < esden> moin huebi 
22:20 < esden> und nachtele ... ich gehe naemlich ins betti
22:20 < esden> cu guys ... n8
22:21 < huebi> cu esden
22:21 < Mike1> huhu huebi
22:22 < huebi> hi Mike1 ;-)
22:22 < Mike1> huebi: why not keep both lprng and cups on the base?
22:22 < Mike1> huebi: everything good?
22:23 < huebi> lprng does not work together with cups.
22:23 < Mike1> i know but some of us still like to use lprng in stead of cups
22:24 < huebi> lprng can become an extension if you like that.
22:24 < huebi> brb.
22:24 < Mike1> ...
22:24 < Mike1> ok
22:27 < huebi> re
22:27 < huebi> Mike1: DO you like the idea of an extension?
22:27 < huebi> hmm
22:27 < huebi> brb.
22:30 < martin_> n8
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22:37 < Mike1> huebi: yeah an extension would work just fine
22:40 < huebi> Mike1: Do you like to build the extension?
22:41 < praenti> to all germans: für die wahl evtl interessant: https://www.computerwoche.de/index.cfm?pageid=254&artid=40683&category=84
22:41 < Mike1> huebi: mm... i am currently 1/2 a bit busy guess i will do it tomorrow or so
22:41 < huebi> Mike1: That would be great.
22:42 < Mike1> huebi: i am trying to make work abiword, gnumeric, magic point and evolution along with my gnome2 system
22:42 < Mike1> though a lot of dependencies are missing
22:42 < praenti> huebi: have you seen such an error:
22:42 < praenti> == 22:36:10 =[5]=> Building base package curl [7.9.8 1.5.19].
22:42 < praenti> Pkg-Config: curl.desc curl.conf/rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 2: [COPY]: command not found
22:42 < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 3: [COPY]: command not found
22:42 < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 4: [COPY]: command not found
22:42 < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: /rock-linux/base-config/curl/curl.conf: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `('
22:42 < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: /rock-linux/base-config/curl/curl.conf: line 5: `[COPY] ROCK Linux is Copyright (C) 1998 - 2002 Clifford Wolf' done.
22:42 < praenti> Building. Writing output to /var/adm/logs/5-curl.out
22:42 < praenti> Creating md5sums and cksums of package curl ... done.
22:43 < huebi> praenti: No, I havn't. I just make a new checkout of the cvs tree.
22:43 < praenti> huebi: could it be that there should no curl.conf.
22:43 < praenti> looks like a standard 1.7 conf ;-)
22:44 < praenti> with no special compile instructions
22:44 < huebi> (I'm just moving my office to a flat in the house next door. only 2 computers a left here.)
22:45 < Mike1> huebi: sounds having fun?
22:45 < huebi> kernel 2.2.22 is out
22:45 < Mike1> sounds like*
22:45 < huebi> Mike1: Yes. Most of the work is now done.
22:45 < Mike1> huebi: good
22:46 < Mike1> huebi: is kind of hard to keep updated with the current cvs tree, damn work keeps getting on my way
22:47 < huebi> Mike1: I just put everything in cvs. The cvs tree _is_ also my official tree
22:47 < Mike1> hehe yes i have seen that
22:48 < Mike1> my biggest problem is that cvs tree differes with mine in several packages
22:48 < Mike1> but hopefully this will change in a near future
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23:18 < praenti> gn8
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23:21 < Mike1> night praenti
23:22 < huebi> cu praenti
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23:57 < huebi> good night. I just started a new, clean bild. cu tomorrow.
23:58 < Mike1> n8 huebi
23:58 < tsa> cu huebi...
23:58 < tsa> <- still waiting for invoice..
23:59 < huebi> tsa: Printing works since yesterday... I still have to move tomorrow
23:59 < tsa> ok..
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