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[10:17] < kasc> moin
[10:30] < blindcod1r> moin
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[10:33] < kasc> finished my first seven packages :)
[10:33] < kasc> wanna have a look?
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[10:40] < blindcoder> what packages?
[10:42] < kasc> 6 games and a library
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[10:43] < blindcoder> games! games! games! games! games!
[10:43] < kasc> hehe
[10:43] < blindcoder> kasc: what are you waiting for? ./scripts/Create-Diff | mail rock-linux@rocklinux.org
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[10:44] < blindcoder> moin owl
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[10:44] < kasc> blindcoder: i already sent a copy to clifford
[10:44] < kasc> still waiting for an answer
[10:45] < blindcoder> kasc: I see :)
[10:45] < blindcoder> which games / libs did you package?
[10:46] < kasc> mainly arcade games
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[10:46] < blindcoder> hmm... we could package the whole happypenguin.org :)
[10:46] < kasc> geki2, geki3, grande, SpaceAryarya, hexxagon and xrick
[10:46] < blindcoder> geki? as in Gekigangar?
[10:47] < kasc> i'm currently testing games from gametome ;)
[10:47] < kasc> i dont know gekigangar
[10:47] < blindcoder> no surprise there :)
[10:47] < kasc> i already found about 10 games that just wait to be packaged ;)
[10:48] < blindcoder> it's an anime that is played inside another anime :)
[10:48] blindcoder has to continue wark on his own game
[10:48] < kasc> geki is some kind of 2D shooter
[10:48] < kasc> do all games have to go to /usr/games/ ?
[10:49] < blindcoder> they don't HAVE to, but it is nice if they do :)
[10:49] < blindcoder> consult the FHS for that
[10:49] < kasc> how do i change the dir they get installed to? is there a nice way to do it from .desc ?
[10:50] < blindcoder> hmm... I think prefix="/usr/games/" in .conf
[10:50] < blindcoder> moment
[10:51] < blindcoder> from Documentation/Developers/PKG-BUILD-VARS:
[10:51] < blindcoder> prefix ........ install prefix (usually '/usr' or '/opt/...')
[10:51] < blindcoder> so add to .conf: prefix="/usr/games"
[10:52] < kasc> ah, thx :)
[10:52] < blindcoder> but if they aren't autoconf'd you will have to do some cheating
[10:52] < blindcoder> like creating a patch for the Makefile or other weird stuff
[10:53] < kasc> with one game i need to fix a sed line in configure :(
[10:54] < kasc> hope the author will do it for me ;)
[10:54] < blindcoder> fix it and tell him
[10:56] < kasc> not sure if i'm going to include it anyways
[10:56] < kasc> the storyline is a bit short
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[10:57] < tcr> moin all
[10:58] < kasc> moin tcr
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[11:58] < totom> hello
[11:59] < tcr> hello totom
[11:59] tcr is listening to Gamma Ray - Gods of Deliverance
[12:00] < totom> i compiled rock 1.7-2003... and made an ./Scripts/Create-Iso ... but when i want to boot this cd a red lilo promt(ramdisk ...) but than "kernel panic:No init found." whats wrong?
[12:02] < tcr> take a look at the lilo.conf and look if your hd of your root dir is properly append='ed
[12:03] < tcr> if it is, look if the kernel has been compiled with the right driver for you HD (which actually should be the case)
[12:03] < totom> thanks ill try it later
[12:03] < totom> yes the kernel works i have no esoteric hardware
[12:04] < tcr> with lilo.conf i mean the configuration file that had been used to create the ramdisk
[12:04] < tcr> and not /etc/lilo.conf
[12:06] < simon> good morning
[12:06] < tcr> moin
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[12:07] < totom> my other question: i looked in the build log files i thought if i choose athlon-tbird in the config menu all pkgs will be build with -march=athlon-tbird -mcpu=athlon-tbird but i cant see any march/mcpu in the logs? have i set it for my own?
[12:08] < tcr> hmm. dunno, not that familiar with 1.7.. just wait till someone else woke up
[12:08] < tcr> wake
[12:09] < tcr> wakes
[12:09] < tcr> grm
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[12:10] < tcr> re blindcoder
[12:10] < tcr> totom: ask your question blindcoder, he might be able to answer it
[12:11] < totom> blindcoder: i looked in the build log files i thought if i choose athlon-tbird in the config menu all pkgs will be build with -march=athlon-tbird -mcpu=athlon-tbird but i cant see any march/mcpu in the logs? have i set it for my own?
[12:11] < simon> hmm, are there actual binary packages available to install remotely via network?
[12:12] < blindcoder> totom: then there's something wrong. I have -march when I grep threugh my logs
[12:12] < blindcoder> totom: did you forget to add -cfg anywhere?
[12:13] < totom> hmm iam noot sure in the moment - may be that i forgot it some time
[12:14] < totom> blindcoder: i am not at home so i cant look but thank you for the tip
[12:14] < blindcoder> totom: no problem
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[12:51] < owl> hi *yaaaawn*
[12:55] < fake> nabend
[12:56] < owl> morgen fake
[12:57] < fake> <- still up, not already
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[12:58] < owl> omg. worked until ...?
[13:00] < fake> only until ~22:00
[13:01] < owl> hm. are you mutating into a vampyre or something similar? how are you btw?
[13:01] < fake> (okay... i fell asleep for about 100 lines while scroll-reading kernel source..)
[13:02] < fake> i'm.... busy
[13:02] < fake> how are you?
[13:03] < owl> ok. extremly tired. thx.
[13:05] < fake> no sleep?
[13:05] < owl> slept for about 16 hours... but.. dunno. extremly tired ;)
[13:06] < fake> omfg
[13:06] < owl> *g* shocked? ;)
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[13:14] < fake> hi hackbard
[13:14] < hackbard> morning fake!
[13:14] fake Instant Remedy - Last Ninja (extended)
[13:16] < owl> <-- going skiing now.
[13:16] < owl> cu later
[13:16] < fake> have fun, owl
[13:16] < owl> thx. i will have
[13:17] < fake> (imagines an owl in skis...)
[13:17] < owl> catch some sleep fake ;P
[13:17] < fake> s,in,on,
[13:17] < owl> fake: *kick*
[13:17] < fake> not yet
[13:17] < fake> firtst kernel compiles
[13:17] < fake> then fake sleeps
[13:17] < owl> tstststs...
[13:17] < fake> hm...
[13:17] < fake> seemes like i fixed it
[13:17] < owl> congrats ;P
[13:17] < fake> mips is pretty broken in 2.4.20
[13:18] fake getting more coffee
[13:18] < owl> hm.
[13:18] < owl> fake, the caffeine junkie
[13:18] < fake> i'm not addicted!
[13:19] < owl> are you sure?
[13:19] < ringo30> me 2 ! I love coffee, I am adicted !
[13:19] < fake> i can stop whenerver i ... have to.
[13:19] < owl> hm. maybe. why don't test it?
[13:19] < fake> i did
[13:19] < owl> ? when? some days ago?
[13:20] < fake> i didn\t drink coffe from thursday to sunday last week
[13:20] < fake> *proud*
[13:20] < owl> hm. and slept all the time, i guess, eh?
[13:21] < fake> yes, about 18h/day
[13:21] < owl> urgs.
[13:21] < fake> i couldn't believe it, too... but i fell asleep again and again...
[13:22] < owl> yeah, of course. cuz you have a "defizit" of sleep i guess
[13:23] < fake> https://www.machinaesupremacy.com/
[13:23] < fake> YES!~
[13:23] < fake> it built!
[13:23] < fake> <- geht voll ab ;)
[13:24] < owl> hehe. congratulations, again
[13:25] < fake> now if this kernel works i have s/th to announce ... *smiles*
[13:25] < tcr> hi fake
[13:25] < fake> hi tcr!
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[13:27] < tcr> hmm
[13:27] < tcr> bah. that sounds too computer generated
[13:28] < fake> get 'great gianna sisters'
[13:29] < tcr> ok
[13:29] < fake> i like the mix of rock and electronic
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[13:29] < owl> fake: is it ebm... or different?
[13:30] tcr is listening to Mortification - Lymphorsarcoma
[13:31] < owl> * like *
[13:31] < fake> owl: different
[13:32] < owl> hm. k.
[13:32] < owl> <-- finally off. bye
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[14:05] < kpraenti> cool. kopete can do irc
[14:05] < tcr> kpraenti 8)
[14:06] < kpraenti> but i think i want my irssi console back
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[14:08] < praenti> ahh. better
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[14:11] < praenti> cool thing. but nobody need it ;-)
[14:11] < praenti> cu tomorrow cause i have to learn
[14:12] < tcr> have phun
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[16:28] tcr brb
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[16:39] < owl> re
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[16:41] < tcr> re
[16:42] < owl> re tcr
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[16:50] < demian> hi
[16:51] < owl> hi demian
[16:52] < demian> brb
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[16:57] < d3mian> re
[16:59] < ringo30> re
[16:59] < ringo30> anobody know a good faq about lprng with ifhp ?
[17:01] < d3mian> what do i need to make cups print ? i receive a error like: Unable to convert file to printable document
[17:01] < d3mian> seems i need a filter.. but i dunno which, and stracing `lp` dont show enough info
[17:02] < ringo30> maybe ifhp a2ps or something
[17:03] < d3mian> i have a2ps.. but not ifhp.. ill try it
[17:03] < d3mian> thanx
[17:08] < d3mian> a rock fb logo would be nice if it were an optional feature
[17:09] < d3mian> how can i make lilo load a ramdisk before load the boot kernel ?
[17:09] < d3mian> like rock's install-cd does: loading ramdisk. booting kernel..
[17:10] < ringo30> you can also make aown rocklogop in stead of the pinguin with a fbdevicce.
[17:10] < ringo30> rocklogo
[17:10] < ringo30> Or you can also install lpp
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[17:11] < ringo30> its not so difficult , I am having sme trouble with other res than 640*480 but I am looking into that first I wanna have my printer print.
[17:12] < d3mian> sure, i know, but.. how would be this included, in the kernel sources ? then.. it is a user selectable option when compiling the kernel with framebuffer ? or a that wanted logo will appear always when i have fb enabled ?
[17:13] < ringo30> it will allways be enabled unless you boot without db device, you can make some kernels with different images.
[17:14] < d3mian> for my opinion, it could be included, if it is a user selectable option when configuring kernel build
[17:14] < d3mian> as an option applied in the config.in
[17:15] < ringo30> CONFIG_FB=y I allways put it in .config right befiore I make menuconfig.
[17:17] < ringo30> CONFIG_FB_VESA=y /* you can boot at differenent resoluions using vesa 2.0 */
[17:17] < d3mian> i know
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[17:17] < putra-langit> hi
[17:17] < putra-langit> anyone here use rocklinux for machine production ?
[17:18] < d3mian> let's say i want sth like a USE_ROCK_FB_LOGO option selectable when i enable CONFIG_FB and that
[17:19] < ringo30> you can just make a linux_logo.h with
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[17:20] < ringo30> fblogo 0.5.0 it converts a PNG to a linux_logo.h
[17:21] < ringo30> you will have also to install imagemagick (used by fblogo)
[17:24] < ringo30> you can also patch your kernel with lpp its cooler you get a graph login it really nice, but you will have to redirect some messages from the daemons started by inet.d
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[17:25] < d3mian> ive played with that already
[17:26] < ringo30> looks great doesnt it , you can use themes and also create your own, I have downloaded a rock-theme its really cool !
[17:27] < d3mian> but.. what i dunt want is to see estrictly a rockfb logo when i enable fb in the kernel.. in logic way: if [ "CONFIG_FB" == "y" ] ; then "should i use rock_logo or kernel default ? (y/n)"; fi
[17:30] < ringo30> then later you can change liux_logo.h by a different one and you compile it with that logo.
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[17:31] < d3mian> re tcr
[17:32] < d3mian> what do i have to do to make lilo load a initial ramdisk before the kernel ?
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[17:33] < d3mian> i added this option: initrd=root.img
[17:33] < d3mian> to lilo.conf (in kernel boot image)
[17:34] < tcr> and?
[17:35] < d3mian> but, when booting cd.., boot messages are:
[17:35] < d3mian> loading kernel.......(log list of dots)..
[17:36] < d3mian> but rock's install cd show: loading ramdisk. booting kernel..
[17:36] < d3mian> and i want more than one ramdisk, one for root, and other one for some kernel modules
[17:38] < d3mian> how can i make this ?
[17:38] < d3mian> i already read Bootdisk-howto.. but bootable cdrom part is not so good
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[17:54] < ringo30> main rotations lost connectivity on wallops waht does this mean ?
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[20:09] < simon> hello, can someone tell me which filesystem the root disks use?
[20:10] < kasc> simon: depends on how you formatet them
[20:10] < kasc> most probably its ext2
[20:10] < simon> hmm, its not
[20:10] < kasc> perhaps minix?
[20:11] < simon> kasc I used the root-disk-1.44MB.img from 1.6.0pre3.iso
[20:11] < kasc> i'm not much into bootdisks yet
[20:11] < kasc> sorry
[20:12] < simon> thank you anyway.
[20:12] < tcr> simon: that doesnt use any filesystem at all, but has to be copied to the disk rawly
[20:12] < tcr> via dd
[20:13] < simon> tcr is there a tar.bz2?
[20:19] < tcr> sorry, was away
[20:20] < tcr> simon: i think that's detailedly described in the guide
[20:34] < ringo30> simon: tar (tape archive) bzip2 compressed.
[20:35] < ringo30> sry gzipped
[20:36] < ringo30> off watching tele ! sorry didnt read 1/2 of it !
[20:39] owl goethes erben - rote traenen
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[20:46] < Mike1> greetings
[20:46] < owl> hi Mike1
[20:46] < Mike1> :))
[20:46] < Mike1> ho Sandra
[20:46] < Mike1> hi even
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[20:47] < Be-El> hi ppl
[20:59] kasc is happy :)
[20:59] < Be-El> kasc: your mail didn't contain an attachment ;-)
[20:59] < kasc> oops...
[21:00] < Be-El> kasc: repository kasc oder repository games ?
[21:01] < kasc> repository kasc
[21:01] < Be-El> kasc: we should put all games and game related stuff into a single repository
[21:02] < Be-El> the games itself, libraries like SDL etc
[21:02] < kasc> i'd rather like to introduce some more categories for games...
[21:02] < Be-El> it's easier to disable a complete repository if you do not want to build the games
[21:03] < kasc> why is it more difficult to use categories to disable all games?
[21:05] < Be-El> categories are a way to handle it, too
[21:05] < Be-El> but some libraries are used by other applications, too...
[21:05] < Be-El> SDL for example
[21:06] < kasc> that would be a reason for using categories instead of disabling the whole repository
[21:07] < Be-El> yes, but if SDL is put into the category games/lib, disabling this category may break other (non game related) software, too
[21:07] < kasc> you can put a package into multiple categories
[21:08] < kasc> so it would be easier to reenable those packages using the other categories they might be in
[21:08] < Be-El> sure...but the default way to disable a package (either with scripts/Config or some config.in scripts) is to use a regexp
[21:09] < Be-El> and those regexp do not care for additional categories in most cases ;-)
[21:10] < kasc> lets say libSDL is in a repository called games and in the categories games/lib and x11/lib
[21:10] < kasc> how would you disable all games but not libSDL?
[21:10] < Be-El> i would put SDL into repository x11 ;-)
[21:11] < kasc> although it is mainly used by games?
[21:12] < kasc> there will be other libs like SDL and spreading them all over the repositorys would make it much more difficult to maintain ;)
[21:12] < Be-El> before releasing 1.8 we should shuffle the repositories anyway
[21:13] < Be-El> e.g. kdevelop should move to kde-30
[21:13] < kasc> thought 2.0 would be next...
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[21:27] < Mike1> **yawn**
[21:41] < Be-El> re
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[23:40] < freed> hi all
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