-!- Irrsi Log opened Thu Feb 06 00:00:53 2003
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[00:40] < rekcah> hi Lorini , Ge0rG
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[00:46] < rekcah> re
[00:46] < Lorini> hi
[00:50] < werwerawer> is this a new distribution of linux
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[00:54] < rekcah> not so new, see www.rocklinux.org to get more info
[01:10] < rekcah> is there something more secure and better than nis/yp for managing net accounts ?
[01:18] < tsa> openldap might do, but i'd still prefer nis ..
[01:18] < rekcah> why ?
[01:19] < rekcah> lots of user at this uni have lame passwords, and u could guess 200 of them in a couple of hours, when using nis. btw.. what is different between ldap and nis ?
[01:19] -!- rekcah is now known as demian
[01:20] < tsa> i've seen and used openldap for user accounts on several linux distros and it never was really stable..
[01:20] < demian> what da u mean with stable ?
[01:20] < demian> in which sense it isnt stable i mean
[01:21] < tsa> slapd crashing, replication not working, ..
[01:21] < tsa> unusable db files after crash from which data could not be recovered..
[01:22] < demian> ah
[01:23] < demian> anyways ill try it, and i will see. thanx :)
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[02:11] < rekcah> re
[02:12] < rekcah> mike1 implemented a jawmail server for linux.edu, what is the url ?
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[02:59] < tomik> hello
[02:59] < rekcah> hi tomik
[03:00] < rekcah> and bye all
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[03:35] < rekcah> re
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[07:33] < blindcoder> moin
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[09:27] < esden> hi all
[09:27] < blindcoder> moin esden
[09:27] < esden> I did it .. I managed it to get to munich ;-)
[09:27] < esden> hi blindcoder
[09:28] < esden> blindcoder: how did you like the "autobahn" ? ;-)
[09:29] < esden> hmm ... blindcoder ? you died ?
[09:29] < blindcoder> hmm
[09:29] < blindcoder> one hour late
[09:29] < blindcoder> still the first @work :D
[09:30] < blindcoder> no, I'm currently trying to recycle^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hfind useful code in chat.pl :)
[09:31] < esden> urgh
[09:31] < esden> have fun
[09:31] < esden> what do you need from chat.pl ?
[09:32] < blindcoder> network-code
[09:32] < blindcoder> the whole thing aroun $sel
[09:32] < blindcoder> brb
[09:32] < esden> .oO(chat.pl seems to be a reference code for all our perl projects ;-) )
[09:33] < owl> moin
[09:33] < esden> moin owl *hug*
[09:34] esden very happy that he got to munich ;-)
[09:34] < owl> esden: ?
[09:34] < owl> why happy about going to munich
[09:35] < esden> owl: because I was not far from death ;-)
[09:35] < esden> now I am happy to see you all alife ;-)
[09:36] < owl> esden: pardon?!! *schocked*
[09:36] < esden> owl: what do you not understand in "I am happy to be alife" ?
[09:36] < blindcoder> re
[09:37] < owl> i don#t understand why "not far from death"
[09:37] < owl> or better: why?
[09:37] < blindcoder> owl: every time you get into a car you are in that state
[09:37] < blindcoder> even more so during rush hours on the A9
[09:38] < esden> and even more during such weather ;-)
[09:39] < blindcoder> yes...
[09:40] < owl> urgs
[09:42] < blindcoder> hmm... strange...
[09:43] < blindcoder> esden: any idea how chat.pl handles data > 1024 Bytes?
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[09:44] < blindcoder> *orgs*
[09:44] < blindcoder> 4get it...
[09:44] < blindcoder> me bein stupid again
[09:44] < esden> blindcoder: ???
[09:45] < esden> blindcoder: have you read the mail from fake on rlml ?!?
[09:46] < esden> argh I once more forgot to start the ssh daemon on my machine at home >_<
[09:46] < esden> GRRRRRRR
[09:47] < esden> I need to finally alter init scripts at home >_<
[09:49] < blindcoder> hehe
[09:49] < blindcoder> the one regarding MIPS?
[09:51] < esden> YES ! *jumparound*
[09:51] < esden> that is a _very_ good message for rock !
[09:51] < blindcoder> hehe :)
[09:52] esden answered already
[09:52] < blindcoder> yes I saw it
[09:52] < esden> I think for such good work he should be lauded
[09:54] < blindcoder> well it's good that it's there but I think it's going to be used about as much as the LPP will
[09:56] < esden> L
[09:56] < esden> LPP will be used more then you think
[09:57] < esden> and the mips port is a very good proof that rock is a portability master
[09:57] < esden> and it will be used sooner or later
[09:57] < esden> as a basis for mips distributions that you can run on your cobalt servers and palmtops
[09:58] < blindcoder> I'm currently doing a test-build of a very clumsy ROCK-LPP implementation just to see if I got the kernel params et al right
[09:58] < esden> do not see everything so negative ...
[09:58] < blindcoder> I don't see _everything_ negative, y'know
[09:58] < blindcoder> Getting my "CD-Wechsler" for my car on the 24th isa very positive thing :D
[10:00] < esden> hmm ... I can imagine that you have been enthusiasted by the CDchanger of matze ... am I right?
[10:01] < esden> how can I concat ps files ?
[10:01] < esden> is there a program to make from several ps files one file ?
[10:01] < blindcoder> esden not really, but the songs on radio are getting me depressed so I needed a change
[10:02] < blindcoder> hmm... dunno... never messed around with them
[10:02] < esden> grr
[10:02] < blindcoder> and since they had no cd-Player there but only a changer I took it for 350
[10:03] < esden> aha ... ok
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[10:04] < blindcoder> well, 290 + work
[10:06] < blindcoder> brb
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[10:12] < blindcoder> hehe
[10:13] < blindcoder> Greg snapped completely :D
[10:15] < blindcoder> hmm... who was it that said "If you need more than three levels of indention, you're screwed anyways?"
[10:23] < kasc> sounds like someone who never had latin at school...
[10:23] < kasc> hiyas, btw
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[10:24] < esden> hi kasc
[10:24] < esden> kasc: what do you want with latin ?
[10:24] < blindcoder> hi kasc
[10:24] < blindcoder> latin???
[10:24] < esden> latin sux anyway ;-)
[10:24] < blindcoder> WEE
[10:24] < kasc> esden: have you ever read tacitus?
[10:24] blindcoder can reproduce the bchat-bug! :)
[10:25] < esden> blindcoder: o_O
[10:25] < esden> blindcoder: another one ?
[10:25] < blindcoder> esden: the one with the Socket
[10:25] < esden> blindcoder: cool !
[10:25] < esden> kasc: nope
[10:25] < blindcoder> esden: it's $cl->peerhost() that causes the error
[10:25] < owl> *argh*
[10:25] < esden> kasc: should I ?
[10:25] < blindcoder> esden: we use it on "Connection closed to ".$cl->peerhost()
[10:25] < esden> blindcoder: that was clear that is this
[10:26] < esden> but which one ... ahh ok
[10:26] < kasc> if you want to decode the meaning of his sentences, you will need far more than 3 levels of indention
[10:26] < blindcoder> esden: but there the socket IS already closed, so it SIGINTs
[10:26] < esden> blindcoder: uncomment the debug line
[10:26] < blindcoder> I will
[10:29] < esden> blindcoder: in lkml they hack around fb_logo ;-) that may interest you
[10:29] < blindcoder> *urks* that means that LPP will have to undergo a major rewrite in 2.4.21, doesn't it?
[10:30] < esden> seems so ...
[10:30] < esden> blindcoder: do you want the thread ?
[10:30] < blindcoder> >_<
[10:30] < blindcoder> yes, please
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[10:35] < esden> blindcoder: https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/logo
[10:35] < esden> but I think that there be more ... so the best you could do is to subscribe yourself
[10:35] < esden> ;-)
[10:35] < esden> to both lkml and fbdevel
[10:35] < blindcoder> brb
[10:39] < blindcoder> nah
[10:39] < blindcoder> no time to read them
[10:44] < esden> bleh ... :P
[10:45] < blindcoder> I have barely time to sort through my Animes, much less read them
[10:46] < blindcoder> But I like it that way :)
[10:48] < esden> so you do not think about dumb things because you have no time for it ...
[10:48] < esden> do I understand you right ?
[10:49] < blindcoder> hmm... yes, you could put it that way
[10:49] < blindcoder> although I wouldn't use "dumb"
[10:52] < esden> how would you call it then ?
[10:52] < blindcoder> less important
[10:57] < esden> aaha
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[11:00] blindcoder installing Crypt::Generatepassword on apollo
[11:02] < esden> errrm
[11:02] < esden> hehe
[11:03] < esden> be carefull ...
[11:04] < blindcoder> why?
[11:04] < blindcoder> it installed just fine :)
[11:04] < esden> good ... puhh
[11:07] < blindcoder> *ARGH*
[11:07] < blindcoder> I forgot half of my work again >_<
[11:08] < esden> o_O
[11:08] < blindcoder> I had to wriite some script
[11:08] < blindcoder> these scripts create/delete server settings
[11:09] < blindcoder> like DB4Web, Tomcat and MySQL
[11:09] < blindcoder> but I forget the ability to actually CHANGE something
[11:11] < esden> ups
[11:14] < blindcoder> yes...
[11:14] < blindcoder> and doing a del / add combination isn't satisfactory
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[11:35] < esden> cu all
[11:35] esden -> learn
[11:37] < blindcoder> have fun :)
[11:46] < fake> hi
[11:48] < blindcoder> moin
[11:58] < owl> hi fake
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[13:03] < owl> someone knows if huebi is still alive?
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[15:15] < Mike1> moin\
[15:15] < owl> hi Mike1
[15:15] < blindcoder> moin Mike1
[15:15] < Mike1> hi owlita und blindy
[15:21] < owl> while (CurrentChar+15>Math.Pow(16,nExp-1))
[15:21] < owl> aaaaaaargh
[15:22] < blindcoder> hae?
[15:23] < owl> ??
[15:24] < blindcoder> what is this supposed to do?
[15:27] < owl> blindcoder: it's c#... and part of a license gen
[15:28] < Mike1> owl: so why do you paste it here?
[15:30] < blindcoder> Mike1 she became a professional cracker and reverse engineer
[15:30] < blindcoder> hmm... easy way of creating a license key:
[15:31] < owl> i had this stuff in the memory.... and my mouse had strange behaviour...
[15:31] < blindcoder> md5_base64(md5_binary(md5(givenName.surName.(money_Paid*year_of_completion).companyName.string_i_chose)));
[15:32] < blindcoder> bonus points if year_of_completion doesn't refer to that but to the actual year thus having to renem registration every year :D
[15:35] < Mike1> blindcoder: professional cracker ....
[15:36] < blindcoder> yeah, she's smoking crack like a pro :D
[15:36] < Mike1> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
[15:39] < blindcoder> but maybe she just cracked :)
[15:39] < Mike1> i liked the first idea more
[15:39] < Mike1> *g
[15:41] < owl> WEEEEE! it builds!
[15:41] < blindcoder> :)
[15:42] < Mike1> owl: stoned?
[15:42] < owl> np: corvus corax - totus floreo
[15:42] < owl> Mike1: nope. c#ed
[15:42] < Mike1> mm...
[15:42] < owl> and rocked a bit
[15:42] < owl> now the kernel builds... *hrhr*
[15:43] < owl> Mike1: do you know if huebi is alive?
[15:43] < blindcoder> how long will it do so? :D
[15:44] < owl> blindcoder: dunno.. but stil... and normally it already should have failed... (in stage 3. rock-1.5)
[15:44] < Mike1> owl: no i don't i wrote him an email several days ago and had reply yet, he never takes long to reply to my emails
[15:45] < owl> hm...
[15:46] < Mike1> owl: what do you neeD?
[15:46] < blindcoder> I think she needs some "special treatment" :D
[15:46] -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini
[15:46] < owl> nothing important
[15:46] < owl> hi Lorini
[15:46] blindcoder running away as fast as he can
[15:46] < Mike1> owl: th have been very involved on the 1.6 tree lately, he might be able to help you
[15:46] < Mike1> blindcoder: run like hell
[15:47] blindcoder shouts "Hi Lorini" while rushing by her
[15:47] < Mike1> hi Lorini
[15:47] < Lorini> uh :) hi *smile*
[15:48] < owl> Mike1: i know.
[15:48] Mike1 can't believe he has been forced to do asp code this mourning >_<
[15:48] < Mike1> arrggg
[15:49] < blindcoder> hmm... she doesn't come after me...
[15:49] < blindcoder> nor has she thrown any explosives or cutting objects after me...
[15:50] < Mike1> blindcoder: thats because you said the truth
[15:50] < Mike1> :)
[15:50] Mike1 now ready to run
[15:50] < blindcoder> Mike1: maybe :)
[15:50] < blindcoder> Mike1: I still have a seat next to me behind the strenghtened glass :)
[15:51] < Mike1> hehe
[15:53] < Mike1> fsckmore work
[15:53] < Mike1> brb
[15:57] blindcoder going home
[15:57] < owl> bye blindy
[15:59] < owl> == 14:29:31 =[3]=> Building base package linux [2.4.20 1.6.0pre3].
[15:59] < owl> << how many hours does a kernel build need? *confused*
[16:01] < Mike1> owl: cpu?
[16:01] < owl> 1.8 mhz
[16:04] < owl> hm. k. finished
[16:07] < owl> bye
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[16:30] < rekcah> hi
[16:30] < Mike1> *yawn*
[16:30] < Mike1> hi rekcah
[16:30] < rekcah> hi Mikey
[16:31] < Mike1> yes Lorini i am wake
[16:31] rekcah in the Uni
[16:31] < rekcah> :(
[16:31] < Mike1> rekcah: did you need me earlier today?
[16:31] < Mike1> rekcah: enjoy classes :PPPPPPPP
[16:31] < Lorini> Mike1: i just didnt want to disturb you.. so i didnt ask :)
[16:32] < rekcah> Mike1: what da u think about migrate the electronics labs of the ITCR to Linuxes ?
[16:32] < Mike1> my friends don't disturb me
[16:32] < Mike1> rekcah: i think it is best thing it could have ever happened to them
[16:33] < rekcah> and what if u help me ?
[16:33] < rekcah> btw.. the person that asked me about place a emprise network with linuxes never called me :(
[16:34] < Mike1> rekcah: when? how many boxes? is there money involved?
[16:34] < Mike1> *g
[16:34] < rekcah> around 30 pcs, fast PCs, and .. i though as a voluntary act :p
[16:35] < Mike1> rekcah: when?
[16:35] < rekcah> how are u btw ? nice to see u hackdaworking again
[16:35] < Mike1> rekcah: i am good thanks, and you?
[16:35] < rekcah> Mike1: i have to talk clearly with them first
[16:35] < Mike1> when would you like to do such migration?
[16:35] < rekcah> fine, a bit depressed and tired, cause of uni :(
[16:36] < Mike1> talk to then, gimme some dates and i will get the team to contribute on it
[16:36] < rekcah> dunno, lemme talk with them
[16:36] < Mike1> i will join the fun too i there are not many projects
[16:38] < rekcah> k
[17:24] < Mike1> rekcah: when will you speak to them? what distro will be installed?
[17:24] < rekcah> dunno, mauybe redhat
[17:24] < rekcah> now i must leave -> classes
[17:24] < Mike1> rekcah: haha enjoy
[17:25] < Mike1> rekcah: come back later so we can talk more about that
[17:25] < rekcah> after 12:20pm
[17:25] < rekcah> cya
[17:25] < Mike1> oki heg da
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[17:50] < bemol> has anyone here used tripwire? .i have some problems with its cron job and email notifications
[17:50] < bemol> exim,sendmail, qmail,postfix, etc are all over the top for the simple task i want to achieve
[17:50] < bemol> i have a box which is going to be a dns server running only bind and ssh. i installed tripwire and want it to send an email notification to bemol@mydoamin.com. At the moment i am testing this, i have a box called mail-server.mydomain.com and a another called dns-server.mydomain.com on a LOCAL connection. i can send mail from the dns server to the mailserver using telnet but i can not send mail using the mail command(which comes with mailx
[17:51] < bemol> but question is how can tripwire send an email notification to bemol@mydomain.com? tripwire is on the dns server. i do NOT want a mail server running on the dns server!
[17:54] -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW
[18:00] < bluefire> bemol: write a script. netcat is a fine tool for such stuff.
[18:07] < bemol> bluefire: can you plz be more specific? i have no scripting skills
[18:07] < bemol> and the task seems so simple yet no one has given me a solution
[18:08] < bluefire> bemol: easy. did you ever talk to a smtp server using telnet?
[18:13] Mike1 preparing some mp3's for owl ...
[18:14] < bemol> yes
[18:24] < rekcah> re
[18:25] < rekcah> damn, to day i just come to Uni to walk around. no calc classes today :(
[18:29] < Mike1> haha
[18:29] < bluefire> bemol: well, then you just write to a file what you would normally tell the smtp server over telnet and then pipe the file to your smtp server using netcat.
[18:29] < Mike1> rekcah: so?
[18:30] < rekcah> im back.. but ill try to learn asm soon
[18:30] < rekcah> i need a book called "learn asm in 3 days" to finish a project for next week
[18:30] < rekcah> :(
[18:56] < rekcah> umm
[18:57] < rekcah> what do i need for putting a cvs server trhough ssh ?
[18:58] < tfing> not much
[18:58] < rekcah> when i try to run my cvs with a cmd like rock 1.5's repos, it ask for the /home/user directory
[18:58] < tfing> cvs and sshd
[18:58] < rekcah> so, should a system account be created ?
[18:58] < tfing> yep
[18:58] < tfing> hmm
[18:59] < rekcah> ic, and i suppose cvs modules and thigs are put in the user's home dir ?
[18:59] < tfing> nope
[18:59] < rekcah> then ?
[18:59] < tfing> they go in the specified cvsdir
[18:59] < rekcah> and where does one set it ?
[18:59] < tfing> anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs <- in /cvs in this example
[18:59] < rekcah> cvsdir
[19:00] < rekcah> umm, is that /cvs in the system / (root)
[19:01] < tfing> i think so
[19:01] < rekcah> and for this dir i should run cvs /cvs init too ?
[19:02] < tfing> yes
[19:02] < tfing> just like a cvs pserver repository
[19:03] < rekcah> ah cool
[19:03] < rekcah> thanx
[19:03] < rekcah> :)
[19:03] < rekcah> so.. anoncvs user in rock's cvs server doesnt have a passwd ?
[19:03] < owl> re
[19:03] < rekcah> owl!
[19:04] < tfing> indeed
[19:04] < owl> hi rekcah
[19:04] < rekcah> Connection to cvs.rocklinux.de closed.
[19:05] < tfing> i've done it 5sec ago
[19:05] < tfing> and it was ok
[19:06] < rekcah> no, it works, i was trying sth different
[19:06] < tfing> ok
[19:08] < rekcah> there are people here i still dunt know.. tfing , bemol , vectrax , hannes_ :p. rock channel isnt like when i came here sometime ago.. just huebi and some others :p
[19:08] < tfing> i came sometimes
[19:08] < tfing> but german speaking ..
[19:09] < rekcah> ic
[19:09] < tfing> but i'm using rock since a long time
[19:10] < rekcah> nice
[19:10] Mike1 is rock newbie
[19:10] < owl> Mike1: *lol*
[19:10] < owl> tfing: define "a long time"
[19:10] < rekcah> porr Mike1
[19:10] < tfing> hmmm
[19:10] < tfing> 3 years
[19:10] < tfing> something like that
[19:10] < Mike1> rekcah: yeah poor me :(
[19:11] < tfing> make it 4 maybe
[19:11] < owl> hm. k.
[19:11] < Mike1> hmpf
[19:11] < owl> tfing: which version did you start with? ;)
[19:11] < tfing> 1.3.10 or 11
[19:11] < rekcah> oh
[19:11] < tfing> i shoud check my first post in the mailing list
[19:12] Mike1 started with 1.2
[19:12] rekcah with buggy 1.4
[19:12] < owl> omg... all this "kuckident-rockers" *vbeg*
[19:12] < Mike1> rekcah: hehehe well that was all i had to give you back them
[19:13] < rekcah> only have a year :(
[19:13] < rekcah> hehe
[19:13] < Mike1> owl: what version did you started with? WinME?
[19:13] < Mike1> *g
[19:14] < owl> Mike1: no. xp :PPP
[19:14] < rekcah> Mike1: are u skilled in asm for win32 ?
[19:14] < Mike1> wow cool
[19:14] < Mike1> rekcah: sorry no.
[19:14] < rekcah> who is ?
[19:14] < owl> <-- not asm
[19:15] < Mike1> rekcah: ask a guy d3mian, if he ever shows up
[19:15] < Mike1> *g
[19:16] < rekcah> where can i find documentation about dynamic libraries .. for example.. to use LD_PRELOAD
[19:16] < rekcah> ?
[19:16] < Mike1> mm.. google?
[19:17] < rekcah> https://www.linuxsymposium.org/2000/libraries.php
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[19:18] < Mike1> saludos CyBuX
[19:18] < owl> hi CyBuX
[19:18] < CyBuX> hola Mike
[19:18] < CyBuX> hi owl
[19:18] < rekcah> Gigax Master!
[19:18] < Mike1> https://www.gigax.com
[19:18] < Mike1> i mean
[19:18] < CyBuX> don rekcah
[19:18] < Mike1> https://www.gigax.org
[19:19] < Mike1> *g
[19:19] < rekcah> https://www.gigax.com
[19:19] < CyBuX> eso esta mejor, gigax.com nada que ver, gigax.org perfect
[19:19] < rekcah> CyBuX is the leader of the gigax.com project
[19:19] < CyBuX> no no no rekcah, no digas eso
[19:19] < Mike1> hahahahaha
[19:19] < Mike1> CyBuX: english please
[19:19] < CyBuX> i am leader of the gigax.org
[19:20] < CyBuX> project
[19:20] < CyBuX> ok Mike, excuseme please
[19:20] < Mike1> CyBuX: what about gigax.com ?
[19:20] < Mike1> *vbeg*
[19:20] < Mike1> CyBuX: just for you to know rekcah = d3mian
[19:21] < rekcah> he knows already
[19:21] < Mike1> CyBuX: no need to excuse is just that rock devs agreed that the official lang in the chan would be enlgish
[19:21] < rekcah> hey
[19:21] < CyBuX> yes, rekcah is the older d3mian :)
[19:21] < rekcah> did u know there is a program to convert dynamic libraries to static ones ?
[19:22] < CyBuX> i understand perfectly the rules of the channel
[19:22] < Mike1> CyBuX: sure rekcah ... d3mian ... d3bian ... Master of all Geils
[19:22] < Mike1> *gg
[19:22] < CyBuX> jejejejjejej
[19:22] < rekcah> this program could be helpful a lot
[19:22] < Mike1> owl: before you ask, yes i know what geil mean
[19:23] < owl> Mike1: i didn't follow the discussion... but.. "egal"
[19:23] < Mike1> :)
[19:24] < rekcah> umm, i cant find a good doc for dynamic libraries
[19:24] < owl> Mike1: do you know corvus corvax?
[19:24] < rekcah> Mike1: what page u shoed me last time using jawmail ?
[19:24] < rekcah> i got openldap installed on scar, and i already download jawmail
[19:24] < rekcah> also squirrelmail
[19:24] < Mike1> squirrelmail sucks
[19:25] < Mike1> jawmail is fine
[19:25] < rekcah> what's the diff ?
[19:25] < CyBuX> do you not like squirrelmail Mike?
[19:25] < rekcah> and a replacement for nis/yp ?
[19:25] < rekcah> tcr told me about use openldap too
[19:25] < rekcah> in a cluster, but im not sure
[19:26] < rekcah> he said me it is buggy
[19:26] < rekcah> what da u think ?
[19:29] < Mike1> CyBuX: i hate squirellmail
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[19:30] < Mike1> CyBuX: uses squirrelmail?
[19:31] < CyBuX> i probed squirrelmail on some server, and perfectly work
[19:31] < Mike1> try jawmail :)
[19:32] < rekcah> Mike1: what page u showed me last time using jawmail /
[19:32] < Mike1> rekcah: all my customers use it
[19:32] < rekcah> https://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html
[19:32] < Mike1> so i guess one of then use it
[19:32] < rekcah> but, say me some URL's
[19:33] < Mike1> webmail.bpotec.com
[19:33] < Mike1> webmail.horwath-cr.com
[19:33] < Mike1> ...
[19:33] < CyBuX> where i can find jawmail?
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[19:34] < Mike1> CyBuX: https://www.jawmail.org/
[19:34] < CyBuX> ok, thanks Mike
[19:35] < Mike1> CyBuX: no problem
[19:35] < rekcah> does i need to know about php to use jawmail ?
[19:35] < Mike1> rekcah: not really
[19:36] < Mike1> rekcah: but you will need mysql, apache (of course), php, also PHP's socket
[19:36] < Mike1> aditional, use uw-imap, sendmail
[19:36] < rekcah> mysql.. i dunt have it, i dunt know nth about data bases
[19:36] < Mike1> and optionally install spamassassin
[19:37] < Mike1> rekcah: the installer will do everything don't worry
[19:37] < Mike1> also there is a good explanation on how to do it ur self
[19:37] < rekcah> and squirrel mail also uses mysqol ?
[19:38] < Mike1> rekcah: don't remember, i used it _LONG_ ago
[19:38] < rekcah> strctly should i use mysql for putting a webmail ?
[19:38] < Mike1> for jawmail yes
[19:39] < Mike1> don't be lazy just get it working, believe it will be fun
[19:39] < rekcah> where can i get mysql sources ?
[19:40] < Mike1> https://www.mysql.org/
[19:41] < rekcah> ok
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[19:43] < armijn> re
[19:43] < rekcah> im trying to make a bootable cd. and i did it. but i used some configuration like rock install-cdrom target does. but boot is different, and there are some thing i want to know.
[19:43] < rekcah> what is the linurc file for ?
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[19:44] < Mike1> hi armijn
[19:44] < rekcah> how can i load several ramdisks before boot the kernel. like rock does: loading ramdisk. ... booting kernel..
[19:44] < Mike1> 0_o
[19:44] < rekcah> zer0_o
[19:44] < Mike1> :)
[19:44] < armijn> heh
[19:44] < armijn> hi mike1
[19:45] < Mike1> how are you armijn?
[19:45] < Mike1> armijn: looking for owl?
[19:45] < rolla> :p
[19:45] < zer0_o> hi all =)
[19:46] < armijn> mike1: not looking for owl...
[19:46] < Mike1> hehe
[19:46] < armijn> why would i be lookingfor owl?
[19:46] < Mike1> yo zer0_o
[19:47] < Mike1> armijn: dunno ask her
[19:47] < armijn> you guys really think there's something going on between owl and me??
[19:47] < rekcah> https://www.mysql.org/ is it down ?
[19:47] < Mike1> rekcah: try .com
[19:47] < zer0_o> whats up ?
[19:47] < rekcah> ok
[19:48] < Mike1> armijn: nah, we just like to bug, sorry i will stop the shit
[19:48] < armijn> mike1: hihi, it is amusing :)
[19:48] < armijn> mike1: I don't care at all :)\
[19:48] < Mike1> armijn: Good
[19:49] < armijn> mike1: maybe owl does...
[19:49] < owl> hi armijn , rolla
[19:49] < armijn> hi owl >:->
[19:49] < Mike1> armijn: so?
[19:49] < armijn> mike1: well, nuthin' :)
[19:49] < rekcah> Mike1: https://www.mysql.com/products/index.html what should i download ?
[19:49] < Mike1> :))
[19:49] < owl> Mike1: *kill*
[19:49] < Mike1> get mysql-max
[19:50] < Mike1> owl: OH YEAH, kill me
[19:50] < Mike1> :))
[19:50] < owl> Mike1: *hr* froget ei
[19:50] < owl> forget it
[19:50] < rekcah> where is it Mike1 , cant find it in the products list
[19:50] < armijn> *evil grin*
[19:50] < Mike1> rekcah: arrg do i have to do everything? *gg*
[19:51] < rekcah> can i say 'yes' ?
[19:51] < CyBuX> Mike1: what is the last version of rock functional?
[19:51] < CyBuX> 1.7?
[19:52] < Mike1> rekcah: https://www.mysql.com/downloads/download.php?file=Downloads%2FMySQL-Max-3.23%2Fmysql-max-3.23.55-pc-linux-i686.tar.gz&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fgd.tuwien.ac.at%2Fdb%2Fmysql%2F
[19:52] < Mike1> CyBuX: rock 1.7 development tree, 1.6.0pre3 almost stable tree
[19:53] < armijn> *almost stable*
[19:53] < armijn> 1.6 is like, what, 1 year late?
[19:53] < Mike1> armijn: more than a year
[19:53] < armijn> and has the ultrasparc port been integrated for 1.6?
[19:53] < CyBuX> ok, i would install rock on the server of electrical engineering at the university
[19:54] < Mike1> armijn: sort off, i am getting X to work, but is hard to do things with huebi vanishing
[19:54] < rekcah> CyBuX: :)
[19:54] < Mike1> rekcah: nice coincidence dont you think?
[19:54] < Mike1> CyBuX: cool, let us now how everythings turns out :)
[19:55] < CyBuX> :)
[19:55] < Mike1> rekcah: did you get the mysql-max source already?
[19:55] < rekcah> but i wont install rock on a server !
[19:55] < rekcah> Mike1: 1%
[19:55] < Mike1> rekcah: someday you will
[19:55] < rekcah> dunt think so
[19:56] < Mike1> rekcah: holysh%t what kind of conection you got?
[19:56] < armijn> mike1: vanishing?
[19:56] < rekcah> my uni connection..
[19:56] < Mike1> armijn: disapearing
[19:56] < CyBuX> what do you think Mike about of rock on a server?
[19:56] < Mike1> armijn: loosing contact for weeks / months ... you know
[19:56] < armijn> mike1: as in, he left ROCK?
[19:57] < armijn> mike1: ah...communication problems...I see...
[19:57] < Mike1> armijn: is in he goes away for long periods of time, then come back make huge commits to cvs and disapears again
[19:57] < armijn> mike1: then he's maybe the wrong person to do the stable tree....
[19:57] < Mike1> CyBuX: well all the servers in my company are running rock
[19:58] < CyBuX> ahh excellent
[19:58] < rekcah> he is right
[19:58] < Mike1> armijn: might be, but what we do about it? pjotr prins did some nice effords last year but then he was stopped
[19:58] < rekcah> hat is linurc file for in the install-disks ?
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[19:59] < armijn> mike1: stopped? by whom?
[19:59] < Mike1> armijn: i don't doub he has the skills and knowledge to get it working, but his communication problem, have become a problem that affects the entire progress of 1.6
[19:59] < Mike1> armijn: stopped by huebi, as he has the authority to do so.
[20:00] < Mike1> armijn: as the maintainer only huebi can decide what goes in and what goes out, and when to release
[20:00] < Mike1> armijn: i honestly lost interest after 1.6.0pre1 was released back in the first week of december 2002
[20:00] < armijn> heh
[20:00] < Mike1> as well did pjotr
[20:01] < armijn> wrong organisation...
[20:01] < Mike1> armijn: yeah
[20:01] < Mike1> people like th and tcr have been very constant on the work, but still there is a major issue to fix
[20:02] < Mike1> the root-disk is broken, and well a stable tree cant be released with this major bug don't you think
[20:02] < armijn> well, no
[20:02] < Mike1> ?
[20:03] < Mike1> armijn: anyways tell me, what are you working on currently?
[20:03] < armijn> MSc thesis
[20:03] < rekcah> th and tcr have a lot of changelog space
[20:03] < Mike1> rekcah: yeah they do
[20:04] < Mike1> armijn: 0_o
[20:04] < rekcah> where is huebi ?
[20:04] < Mike1> rekcah: excellent question, let us all know when you get an answer
[20:04] < rekcah> ?
[20:05] < Mike1> anyways danmit i need to eat
[20:05] Mike1 away having luch
[20:05] < rekcah> could someone gimme a hand with creating a boot disk?
[20:05] < rekcah> well, i already created it, but i need to manage some ramdisks things
[20:06] < Mike1> dd if=boot-disk.img of=/dev/floppy/0
[20:06] < rekcah> umm
[20:06] < rekcah> cdrom bootdisk
[20:06] < rekcah> with ramdisks
[20:06] < Mike1> :)
[20:07] < rekcah> rock install-cdroms target is strange
[20:07] < Mike1> ask me again _after_ i eat
[20:07] < Mike1> cu later
[20:07] < rekcah> go fast
[20:09] < rekcah> i created it, and it boots fine. and use a ramdisk as root. and also mount the cdrom itself in the /usr partition.
[20:09] < rekcah> but, how can i load more than one ramdisk ?
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[20:24] < armijn> heh
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[20:30] < rekcah> re CyBuX
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[20:46] < ScareCrow_> hi all
[20:47] < rekcah> hi ScareCrow_
[20:47] < ScareCrow_> i did some gentoo a while back...
[20:47] < ScareCrow_> now i saw rocklinux somewhere on the net, how does it compare, does it have the same autimation as gentoo...
[20:47] < tfing> there's no autokick on the word gentoo ? :)
[20:48] < ScareCrow_> is configuration comparable with redhat? debian? ... or does it have it's own config structures...
[20:48] < ScareCrow_> with this i mean the structure of "/etc"
[20:48] < tfing> it's a classic /etc
[20:49] < rekcah> ScareCrow_: it is source based too. but it allows u to use cross build, and some other advanced functions. there is doc about rock available in www.rocklinux.org
[20:49] < tfing> just a few conf files in /etc/conf
[20:49] < tfing> rock is bash-based / gentoo is python-based
[20:50] < tfing> there's no dependency management in rock
[20:51] < tfing> among the fun stuff, you can do a cluster build of rock
[20:51] < owl> hi ScareCrow_
[20:52] < ScareCrow_> aha
[20:52] < ScareCrow_> cluster build, well, i haven't got a cluster at home, but it's still a nice feature
[20:52] < ScareCrow_> no dependancies... :-(
[20:53] < ScareCrow_> but can it autodownload packages like debian does...
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[20:54] < tfing> to add a package, you do that (in general) :
[20:54] < tfing> ./scripts/Download -package package; ./scripts/Build-Pkg package
[20:54] < tfing> and that's it
[20:57] < ScareCrow_> aha
[20:57] < ScareCrow_> the stack smash protector is also cool
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[21:00] Mike1 is back
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[21:49] < Be-El> hi ppl
[21:50] < owl> hi Be-El
[21:50] < rekcah> hi Be-El
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[21:58] < rekcah> what are IT projects /
[22:07] Mike1 almost falling over his keyboard
[22:07] < Mike1> i need more coffee
[22:07] rekcah hits Mike against the wall !
[22:08] < rekcah> [ nagoya ] ~ > yppasswd
[22:08] < rekcah> yppasswd: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("tigris.ic-itcr.ac.cr").
[22:08] < rekcah> [ nagoya ] ~ >
[22:08] < rekcah> oh oh.. someone dunt want me to change password..
[22:08] < Mike1> hahahahaha!
[22:09] < rekcah> ypchfn: yppasswdd not running on NIS master host ("tigris.ic-itcr.ac.cr").
[22:09] < rekcah> also dunt want me to change my info..
[22:10] < rekcah> argg
[22:12] < rekcah> cool tool
[22:12] < rekcah> reducebind.c
[22:17] < owl> <-- going to enjoy sleeeeeeeping
[22:18] < Mike1> nacht owly
[22:18] < owl> ciao Mike1
[22:18] < Mike1> *hug*
[22:18] < rekcah> dream with me wo
[22:19] < owl> rekcah: pardon?
[22:19] < Mike1> rekcah: Jesus christ you want her to have nightmares
[22:19] < Mike1> ?
[22:21] < rekcah> she is a nightmare by herself :p
[22:21] < Mike1> rekcah: _NO_ she is not
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[22:39] < rolla> Mike1: back to the sendmail fun :)
[22:39] < Mike1> rolla :)
[22:39] < rolla> yeah I am debugging some morons sendmail.cf
[22:39] < Mike1> i am back into the OpenBSD fun
[22:39] < rekcah> bah.. some intel guys have come..
[22:40] < rolla> with a default hp install
[22:40] < Mike1> rekcah: ask then the price for their risk processors
[22:40] < Mike1> :)
[22:43] < rekcah> lol
[22:43] < rekcah> they have come to see me
[22:43] < rekcah> :)
[22:43] < Mike1> WTF?
[22:43] < Mike1> so ask them ask them
[22:44] < rekcah> what is the name of one of those intel processors ? i forgot the names..
[22:44] < Mike1> err... Alpha?
[22:44] < Mike1> *ggg*
[22:45] < rekcah> no no.. um, Duron is one.. i guess.
[22:45] < rekcah> ill ask them better
[22:45] < Mike1> :P
[22:46] < rekcah> hehe, no, they have come to see how lazy is people here, and to see them having fun
[22:47] < Mike1> rekcah: you should send them over to qubit_'s so they can see lazyness on it pure essence
[22:47] < rekcah> lol
[22:53] < Mike1> but hey you are his prentice so it will be the same soon
[22:54] < rekcah> what is prentice ?
[22:54] < Mike1> rekcah: aprendis
[22:54] < rekcah> what should be the permissions for the /var/mail dir ?
[22:54] < rekcah> :p
[22:54] < Mike1> 777
[22:55] < Mike1> *g
[22:55] < rekcah> why so ? so .. whoever is able to write there ?
[22:55] < Mike1> rekcah: i am kidding
[22:55] < Mike1> Read sendmails docs :)
[22:56] < rekcah> [ unknown ] > l /var/ | grep mail
[22:56] < rekcah> drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 1024 Feb 6 05:03 mail
[22:56] < rekcah> [ unknown ] >
[22:56] < rekcah> umm...
[22:57] < rekcah> i have them so.. but whoever is able to write, and pine also say i must have 7777 permissions
[22:58] < rekcah> what does that 't' at the end of drwxrwxrwtmeans ?
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[23:00] < tsa> hi
[23:00] < rekcah> tsa!
[23:00] < rekcah> sebastian
[23:01] < tsa> hi rekcah
[23:02] < rekcah> does the ROCK_FL_WRAPPER works fine ?
[23:02] < rekcah> when loaded from LD_PRELOAD
[23:02] < tsa> i think so...i don't remember having experienced any problems with it.
[23:03] rekcah willl try to understand it..
[23:04] < rekcah> how can i make a simple copy a file to a other one, in C? using read and write only ?
[23:04] < tsa> i didn't take a closer look at it, but basically it does nothing but intercept some file-modifying calls..
[23:05] < rekcah> aha. yes, like a listener
[23:06] < rekcah> fl_wrapper.c fl_wrparse.c
[23:06] < rekcah> what is the function of each one of those .c ?
[23:08] < rekcah> fl_wrapper.c -> the library as i see
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[23:10] < rekcah> how does it really works ? listen for system calls for writing in files ? like O_WRONLY and O_RD_WR ? like a strace -e=write ?
[23:11] < tsa> probably.
[23:12] < tsa> ..same for directories and {sym,hard}links..
[23:12] Mike1 leaving now
[23:12] < Mike1> see you all tomorrow
[23:12] < rekcah> cya Mike1
[23:13] < tsa> cu Mike1
[23:13] < rekcah> umm.
[23:13] < rekcah> void handle_file_access_before(const char *, const char *, struct status_t *);
[23:14] < rekcah> void handle_file_access_after(const char *, const char *, struct status_t *);
[23:14] < rekcah> compare access to files two times
[23:18] < rekcah> umm, wrapper logs entries from fopen,open, creat, creat64, mkdir, mknod, link, symlink, rename, utime(s)
[23:19] < rekcah> is the rock 1.5 fl_wrapper the same than 1.7's ?
[23:19] < tsa> don't know, but i think so
[23:20] < rekcah> it doesnt seems to be so complex, ill learn a bit more about those dynamc libraries. (me downloading doc mentioned in fl_wrapper.c)
[23:22] < rekcah> a question before go.. what is linuxrc file in the / root of the install cd ?
[23:39] < tsa> dunno
[23:40] < Be-El> it's the program that is started after boot up (instead of /sbin/init)
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-!- Irrsi Log closed Fri Feb 07 00:00:11 2003