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00:57 < kasc> what does c-compiler multilib support do?
01:15 < rolla> re
01:15 < owl> hi rolla
01:16 < owl> and good night
01:23 < rolla> nacht owl
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03:47 < rolla> re
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12:28 < esden> morning
12:33 < aszlig> moin esden
12:33 < esden> hi aszlig 
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13:06 < [anders]> lo
13:07 * [anders] is having a wee bit of lunch today before finishing of a five week backlog of timesheets...
13:35 < [anders]> all timesheets done, and one manager looking very confused...
13:35 < [anders]> *g*
13:54 < huebi> moin
13:55 < huebi> What is the URL for the cvs web frontend?
14:07 < [anders]> lo huebi, long time no see..
14:16 < huebi> hi [anders]
14:16 < huebi> [anders]: how are you?
14:20 < [anders]> huebi: recovering from being off ill with a lung infection for about three weeks..
14:20 < [anders]> at site, but trying to take it reasonably easy....
14:21 < owl> *yawn* morning
14:37 < rolla> re
14:38 < owl> hi rolla
15:00 < kasc> moin
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15:07 < tsa> moin
15:07 < owl> hi tsa
15:07 < tsa> hi owl
15:16 < huebi> moin tsa
15:16 < huebi> I get a new permanent internet connection in about 14 days. Then the
15:16 < huebi> development of 1.6 will continue.
15:16 < huebi> The major task are still the boot disks. There is still missing the
15:16 < huebi> possibility of getting modules loaded from the root disk after booting. I
15:16 < huebi> don't know a solution for that problem in the moment.
15:16 < huebi> If that works, it's time again for a new prerelease and testing, testing,
15:16 < huebi> testing...
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15:16 < huebi> There are still many errors in 1.6.0preX. These should be found and fixed
15:16 < huebi> in the next weeks. When SCSI systems are also installable and the most
15:16 < huebi> anoying errors are found, 1.6.0 could be released.
15:16 < huebi> After the release of 1.6.0 I plan to update gcc, glibc and gnome to the
15:16 < huebi> current versions.
15:16 < huebi> Also I want to add OpenLDAP and PAM as an option. Please let me hear your
15:16 < huebi> comments on that.
15:17 < huebi> Andreas
15:17 < huebi> tsa: can you /msg me your address again?
15:18 < tsa> sure
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15:19 < owl> re
15:19 < tsa> does this mean i can soon pay you for the CRT?
15:23 < huebi> tsa: Yes, you can :-)))
15:24 < owl> hi huebi o_O
15:24 < huebi> hi owl
15:42 < huebi> cu later
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15:48 < esden> hi all
15:50 < tsa> hi esden
15:50 < tsa> hm...anyone who has a mbus ross 125mhz and wants to get rid of it?
15:51 < esden> no sorry
15:51 < owl> hi esden
15:53 < esden> hi owl
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16:39 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Thu Nov 21 19:29:37 2002]
16:39 (Users #rocklinux)
16:39 [ [anders]  ] [ chrisime_ ] [ hackbard] [ mayan   ] [ rekcah] [ tfing  ] 
16:39 [ aszlig    ] [ esden     ] [ hannes_ ] [ Mike1   ] [ rolla ] [ tsa    ] 
16:39 [ blindcod1r] [ fake      ] [ huebi   ] [ owl     ] [ simon ] [ vectrax] 
16:39 [ blindcoder] [ Fremen|Out] [ ichilton] [ Parabull] [ SMP   ] 
16:39 [ cchamilt  ] [ Ge0rG     ] [ kasc    ] [ praenti ] [ snyke ] 
16:39 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal]
16:39 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
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16:39 < esden> re
16:39 < rolla> re esden
16:39 < esden> strange
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16:39 < rolla> esden: was?
16:40 < esden> it seems that the dns is getting crazy
16:40 < esden> and/or the routes have changed
16:40 < rekcah> hi esden
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16:40 < esden> hi d3mian 
16:40 < rolla> suck
16:40 < fake> esden: ping
16:41 < esden> rolla: yups
16:41 < esden> fake: reping 
16:41 < esden> fake: hi, nice to see you again
16:41 < fake> esden: when do you have 'semesterferien' ?
16:41 < esden> fake: they started on saturday for me, but I still have to finish my lego work
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16:41 (Users #rocklinux)
16:41 [ [anders]  ] [ chrisime_] [ Fremen|Out] [ ichilton] [ Parabull] [ tfing  ] 
16:41 [ aszlig    ] [ d3mian   ] [ Ge0rG     ] [ kasc    ] [ rolla   ] [ tsa    ] 
16:41 [ blindcod1r] [ esden    ] [ hackbard  ] [ mayan   ] [ simon   ] [ vectrax] 
16:41 [ blindcoder] [ esden__  ] [ hannes_   ] [ Mike1   ] [ SMP     ] 
16:41 [ cchamilt  ] [ fake     ] [ huebi     ] [ owl     ] [ snyke   ] 
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16:42 < esden> that should take one or two weeks
16:42 < esden> that should take one or two weeks
16:42 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
16:42 < esden> huh ?
16:42 < esden> huh ?
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16:42 < esden> another esden ?
16:42 < esden> another esden ?
16:42 < fake> esden: looking for a job?
16:42 < fake> esden: looking for a job?
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16:43 < fake> aaarghl
16:43 < esden> fake: what kind ? how much paid ? 
16:44 < fake> esden: java stuff, jsp, database....
16:44 < fake> esden: you could just talk to my boss about money...
16:44 < fake> (we're one of the few IT firms looking for peoples...)
16:45 < owl> fake: working again?
16:49 < tsa> Solution: Replace faulty CPU module.
16:49 * tsa smashing head against wall.
16:50 < esden> odin was down ... that was the disconnect problem ...
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17:32 < Mike1> moin all
17:32 < d3mian> cya all
17:32 < d3mian> -> classes
17:32 < d3mian> hi Mike1 !
17:32 < Mike1> d3mian: arrg
17:32 < d3mian> da u drink Mike1 ?
17:32 < Mike1> d3mian: quickly when are we going to itcr?
17:32 < esden> hi Mike1 
17:32 < esden> !
17:33 < d3mian> ?
17:33 < Mike1> d3mian: no i don't drink >_<
17:33 < d3mian> !! :(
17:33 < d3mian> i was gonna invite u some beers
17:33 < Mike1> h esden
17:33 < Mike1> d3mian: you can gimme the money instead :)
17:33 < d3mian> !!
17:33 < d3mian> well, cya later
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17:33 < Mike1> how are you esden?
17:34 < owl> hi Mike1
17:35 < Mike1> yo owly
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17:44 < Mike1> yo kasc
17:46 < esden> Mike1: I am fine thanks
17:46 < esden> and how are you ?
17:46 * -> esden documenting his lego robot ... >_<
17:50 < Mike1> esden: i am great thanks
18:17 * -> esden going swimming
18:17 < esden> cu all
18:17 < owl> bye esden, have fun
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18:42 < tsa> == 18:12:35 =[5]=> Building kde-31/qt-31 [3.1.1 1.7-snapshot].
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20:12 < kasc> re
20:12 < Mike1> wb kasc
20:12 < kasc> thx :)
20:13 < tsa> re.
20:13 < tsa> hi kasc
20:13 < tsa> hi Mike1
20:13 < Mike1> hello tsa
20:20 < kasc> hi tsa
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20:22 < Mike1> armijn: :)
20:22 < armijn> hiya
20:22 < armijn> this weekend there was FOSDEM
20:22 < armijn> and there were sooooo many ROCK people...
20:22 < Mike1> how was it?
20:23 < Mike1> cool
20:23 < armijn> like, 0
20:23 < owl> hi armijn
20:23 < armijn> only former ROCK people ;-)
20:23 < Mike1> mm...
20:23 < armijn> hi owl
20:23 < armijn> I ran into geert bevin...
20:23 < Mike1> armijn: define former ROCK people?
20:23 < armijn> mike1: well, geert bevin...
20:24 < Mike1> mmm..
20:27 < armijn> seems he already left gentoo
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20:31 < Mike1> wtf?
20:31 < Mike1> what is he doing now?
20:33 < tfing> not surprising, there had been some pbs between him and robbins
20:33 < armijn> mike1: dunno
20:34 < armijn> yeah. problems about portage....
20:34 < tfing> that's what i heard
20:35 < Mike1> i see
20:36 < armijn> yeah, he told me about it...
20:36 < armijn> robbins wanted to keep it in Python, geert wanted to rewrite it in C++
20:36 * Mike1 wonders if ex-rock devs will create their own distro someday
20:36 < armijn> haha
20:36 < armijn> unlikely
20:37 < tfing> though there are some tensions in rock sometimes
20:37 < armijn> I know some of them pretty well, but "we" simply wouldn't have the time
20:38 < armijn> hmm, tensions in ROCK, definitely
20:38 < armijn> the 1.5 vs. 17 stuff...
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20:40 < armijn> the 1.5 vs 1.7 stuff that basically made me decide to quit...as well as all the package management crap
20:40 < armijn> it was still fun though :)
20:41 < Mike1> armijn: have you considered to come back?
20:41 < armijn> mike1: no
20:42 < armijn> mike1: well, I considered it and the answer is "no"
20:42 < Mike1> k
20:42 < Mike1> k :(
20:42 < armijn> I will also reinstall my Ultra with something else
20:42 < Mike1> mandrake? *g
20:42 < armijn> argh, no way :)
20:43 * Mike1 remembering armijn's brave times with mdk
20:43 < armijn> the mandrake for ultrasparc that exists is rather...ehr...broken...
20:43 < Mike1> :)
20:43 < armijn> no, I will install OpenBSD
20:43 < Mike1> armijn: Splack?
20:43 < armijn> OpenBSD :)
20:43 < tsa> hehe
20:43 < Mike1> nice
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20:44 < armijn> I want to play around with "pf"
20:44 < tsa> hm..i considered installing obsd on my ss20..
20:44 < armijn> mike1: but regarding FOSDEM, it was nice
20:44 < tsa> ..until i found out that obsd doesn't support SMP on sparc
20:45 < armijn> I missed most of the talks though...
20:45 < Mike1> armijn: :)
20:45 < armijn> but the talks aren't the important thing on FOSDEM for me...
20:45 < armijn> it's the people you see and talk to
20:45 < tsa> ..which isn't too important because today i had to find out that one of the cpu modules is broken..
20:45 < armijn> tsa; ouch
20:45 < tsa> :-(((
20:45 < Mike1> whats the important thing for you ?
20:45 < Mike1> free beer?
20:46 < armijn> mike1: no, "networking"
20:46 < Mike1> :)
20:46 < armijn> mike1: and meeting faces behind e-mail addresses
20:46 < Mike1> :)
20:47 < Mike1> sounds nice
20:47 < Mike1> someday i will i guess, when i go to eu
20:47 < armijn> heh, to meet owl?
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20:47 < Mike1> yeah why not
20:47 < armijn> mike1: I heard you and owl are getting pretty close...
20:47 < Mike1> your marriage will be a good chance
20:47 < armijn> *my* marriage?
20:47 < armijn> your marriage! :)))
20:48 < armijn> I heard she prefers spanish talking men...
20:48 < armijn> and my spanish is crap
20:48 < Mike1> sure aren't we talking about owl
20:48 < Mike1> you know use the key words
20:48 < Mike1> armijn ... owl ... marriage
20:48 < Mike1> armijn: ah well tsa has a very good spanish
20:49 < armijn> mike1: and he lives closer to owl...
20:49 < armijn> mike1: would be better to couple those two...
20:49 < Mike1> armijn: /me is getting married on 14/11/03
20:49 < armijn> mike1: with your Ultra?
20:49 < Mike1> armijn: well but would you sacrifice what you guys have just for the distance
20:49 < Mike1> ?
20:49 < Mike1> armijn: no with my girl friend
20:50 < armijn> mike1: ah, that makes sense...
20:50 < armijn> mike1: ehrm....what we have: little, distance: huge
20:50 < armijn> look on your face: priceless...
20:50 < armijn> (I watch too many commercials)
20:51 < Mike1> lol
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20:51 < Mike1> armijn: btw if you want to / can come over for my wedding it would be cool
20:51 < tsa_> arghs
20:51 < tsa_> re
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20:51 < Mike1> armijn: now look at i was telling you
20:51 < armijn> mike1: but, ehr...what about coupling tsa and owl
20:51 < armijn> ?
20:51 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa
20:51 < Mike1> tsa_: your spanish is very good right?
20:52 < armijn> mike1: heheh...I'm not sure, don't count on it
20:52 < tsa> Mike1: hm...why do you ask?
20:52 < Mike1> armijn: too bad :(
20:52 < armijn> tsa missed a big part of the conversation...
20:52 < Mike1> tsa: just so armijn knows
20:52 < armijn> tsa: we discovered that owl likes spanish talking men better...and my spanish is crap
20:53 < armijn> and you live near(er)by
20:53 < armijn> tsa: so we were thinking....
20:53 < tsa> hm...
20:53 < armijn> >:->
20:53 < tsa> i guess i've just forgotten all my spanish..
20:53 < armijn> all of a sudden?
20:53 < Mike1> tsa: thats a fucking lie :)
20:54 < tsa> yes.
20:54 < tsa> sure..
20:54 < tsa> Mike1: noooo...!
20:54 < armijn> awww come on...
20:54 < armijn> at least you could learn spanish for owl...
20:54 < Mike1> tsa: don't resist to your destiny
20:55 < tsa> Mike1: sure i will..
20:56 < Mike1> tsa you can't
20:56 < Mike1> soon or later it will happen
20:56 < armijn> it's unavoidable!
20:56 < tsa> "it"?
20:56 < Mike1> right armijn?
20:56 < armijn> it's written in the stars!
20:56 * tsa doesn't read stars.
20:56 < armijn> tsa: you and owl were made for eachother...
20:57 < tsa> hm..i didn't know owl was human at all..
20:57 < armijn> tsa: so what's wrong with her?
20:57 < Mike1> tsa: its not about reading it about doing "it"
20:57 < tsa> armijn: i guess my girlfriend won't like her..
20:57 < armijn> doing it? they're already doing it?
20:57 < Mike1> tsa: armijn realized he was just getting on the way for ur happines
20:57 < Mike1> so he finally agreed to move away and let you 2 be together
20:57 < armijn> wow, they progress rapidly...
20:58 * armijn pets owl....
20:58 < armijn> awww....
20:58 < owl> aeh?
20:58 < armijn> hihi :)
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20:59 < owl> too lazy to read scrollback
20:59 < Mike1> tsa: can't you have several girls?
20:59 < armijn> tsa; yeah, several girls! it's every man's dream!
20:59 < armijn> owl: good :)
20:59 < owl> armijn: that sounds bad to me... if you say "good" i mean
20:59 < Mike1> armijn: owl did you know tsa speaks spanish?
21:00 < owl> Mike1: confused a bit? ;)
21:00 < armijn> so it seems
21:00 < Mike1> owl: why? can't armijn just be positive sometime?
21:00 < armijn> mike1 is too excited
21:00 < owl> Mike1: he can't
21:01 < Mike1> armijn: of course, a new couple has come up
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21:01 < d3mian> re
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21:01 < Mike1> oh no, armijn here comes the lover
21:01 < armijn> oh-ooh...
21:01 < armijn> latin lover...
21:01 < rekcah> ?
21:01 < armijn> owl: you like latin lovers?
21:01 < Mike1> wb d3mian
21:01 < owl> *lol* totally insane...
21:01 < owl> hi rekcah
21:01 < armijn> owl: not even clueless latin lovers?
21:02 < Mike1> armijn: see what i told, she is flirting already
21:02 < armijn> mike1: so it seems...
21:02 < rekcah> gonna study cals with a girl ;-) have fun!
21:02 < Mike1> tsa: ..?
21:02 < tsa> .
21:02 < owl> <-- too lazy to answer or even think
21:02 * rekcah away "studying"
21:02 < armijn> owl: tuuuuurn.....oooon.....braaaaaaaain!
21:03 < Mike1> armijn: brain?
21:03 < tsa> armijn: no brain to turn on ?
21:03 < armijn> mike1: yeah, the stuff in your head
21:03 < Mike1> lol
21:03 < Mike1> armijn: we are taling about owl
21:03 < armijn> tsa: are you getting turned on now?? because we're talking about owl?
21:04 < armijn> hmm :)
21:04 < owl> armijn: are you sure, you're talking about me... i guess you said something like "tsa has no brain" :P
21:04 < tsa> .oO( looks like some people around here will have to die soon..
21:04 < armijn> tsa: ha! now you know how it feels!
21:05 < Mike1> tsa: who?
21:05 < owl> men... are talking too much
21:05 < armijn> owl: I thought that was a female thing...
21:05 < owl> armijn: nope
21:05 < Mike1> owl: you are right, too much taling and no action
21:05 < owl> Mike1: :P
21:06 < armijn> hrmpf...mike1 is trying to win owl for him
21:06 < armijn> it's quite obvious...
21:06 < Mike1> armijn: LOL no
21:06 < armijn> mike1: why not? don't you like her?
21:06 < Mike1> i am not willing to compete againt you 3 guys
21:07 < armijn> 3 guys?
21:07 < Mike1> i mean armijn, tsa and rekcah
21:07 < armijn> ah, I thought you were talking about owl..
21:07 < owl> absolutely insane
21:08 < armijn> owl: is it?
21:08 < armijn> owl: or maybe it is true...
21:08 < owl> armijn: it is
21:08 < owl> insane
21:08 < armijn> owl: you like that?
21:08 < Mike1> omg this is going really nasty
21:08 < armijn> want fries with that?
21:09 < owl> nfc
21:09 < armijn> I don't know "nfc", I do know "KFC"
21:10 < owl> nfc=no further comments
21:10 < armijn> aah...so not something like "nevada fried chicken"
21:10 < Mike1> owl: i thought it was no fucking comments
21:11 < Mike1> armijn: no its nordish fried chicken
21:11 < armijn> mike1: that's just your mind...
21:11 < owl> aaaahh!!! damn. which idiot has dance music at his website added! this doesn't fit together with "goethes erben" *dying*
21:12 < Mike1> HAHAHAHA
21:12 < owl> my ears
21:12 < Mike1> talking about that owl are you into "dancing"?
21:12 < armijn> owl: gothic erdbeeren?
21:12 < owl> armijn: pardon?
21:12 < armijn> (or -e_
21:12 < armijn> owl: you know...strawberries...
21:12 < armijn> what are they called in german?
21:12 < owl> why do you mean strawberries?
21:13 < owl> erdbeeren
21:13 < armijn> well, you were talking about "gothic erdbeeren"
21:13 < owl> no... goethes erben... it's a name of a band
21:14 < armijn> I think gothic erdbeeren sounds funnier...
21:14 < armijn> mike1: #define dancing
21:14 < owl> armijn: *kick*
21:14 < Mike1> armijn: you know ... dancing ...
21:15 < Mike1> owl: are you into dacing?
21:15 < armijn> owl: ouch!
21:15 < armijn> mike1: dancing or dance music?
21:15 < owl> Mike1: i'm a software dev. not a dancer
21:15 < Mike1> armijn: i think a good way to define it is ... "artistic" dance?
21:15 < armijn> mike1: like tango?
21:16 < Mike1> armijn: let your imagination give the answers to you
21:16 < Mike1> :)
21:16 < Mike1> owl: software device?
21:16 < owl> developer
21:16 < owl> (wah. you force me to write too much)
21:16 < Mike1> *g
21:17 < Mike1> i've heard geek girls are nasty, what do you think armijn?
21:17 < armijn> mike1: heh :)
21:17 < armijn> owl should post pcitures of herself on the Internet...
21:18 < armijn> so we all know what she looks like...
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21:18 < armijn> or maybe, maybe she should come to a conference once...
21:18 < blindcoder> hi
21:19 < Mike1> owl: send us some pics
21:19 < Mike1> hi blindy
21:20 < blindcoder> owl and dance music? TAHT I watn to see :)
21:21 < Mike1> blindcoder: sure it is something not very common
21:21 < blindcoder> Mike1: no, I want to see it to dance with her :)
21:21 < armijn> blindcoder: you want to dance with owl?
21:22 < armijn> seems owl is *very* popular!
21:22 < blindcoder> armijn: sure. i don't have bronze, silver and gold for nothing
21:22 < armijn> heh
21:23 < armijn> but, talking about music, I should put on a new record...
21:23 < Mike1> blindcoder: you will need a horse of course
21:23 < Mike1> armijn: singer?
21:23 < Mike1> :)
21:23 < blindcoder> Mike1: hehe
21:25 < armijn> mike1: ehr, no...as in, play a new record?
21:25 < armijn> mike1: on my record player...
21:25 < owl> re
21:26 < owl> blindcoder: hi. no! just a website had this background music...
21:26 < Mike1> armijn: would you sing for owl?
21:26 < blindcoder> owl: sad
21:27 < owl> blindcoder: ???
21:27 < armijn> mike1: no
21:27 < Mike1> owl: did you see the link is ent to you
21:27 < Mike1> ?
21:27 < blindcoder> owl: I had liked to dance with you :)
21:27 < owl> blindcoder: omg
21:28 < blindcoder> owl: "they" (whoever that may be) always say that men who a) CAN dance and b) LIKE to dance are rare
21:28 < owl> dancing with me is something like my mum using a PC... - impossible
21:28 < armijn> mike1: I only put on a new record, that's all...
21:28 < blindcoder> owl: but I think that women that meet both criteria are at least as rare
21:28 < armijn> owl: she doesn't like PCs?
21:28 < Mike1> armijn but maybe that would help you get her?
21:29 < armijn> owl: she prefers real computers?
21:29 < armijn> owl: do you want me to sing for you???
21:29 < owl> armijn: she even doesn't know where to switch on the pc
21:29 < owl> no. don't sing
21:29 < Mike1> owl: i will teach you to dance tango
21:30 < owl> thx. i don't want to
21:30 < armijn> mike1: no, she doesn't want me to sing for her
21:31 < Mike1> owl: i never asked if you wanted to learn, i said that iw ill teach you
21:31 < owl> Mike1: no chance
21:32 < Mike1> would you prefer to dance with blindy?
21:35 < owl> Mike1: i would prefer not to dance
21:35 < armijn> heh
21:36 < owl> armijn: ?
21:36 < armijn> just heh
21:36 < armijn> owl: so your ideal man doesn't sing, nor dance...
21:36 < owl> full ack
21:36 < armijn> and no sport?
21:36 < blindcoder> okay, just activated www.animeftp.net (after 3 months :)
21:37 < owl> armijn: *lol* skiing, please.
21:37 < owl> :P
21:37 < armijn> skiing...brbrr
21:37 < owl> armijn: *lol* why?
21:37 < owl> it's a lot of fun imho :)
21:38 < armijn> owl: I was wondering, if he doesn't sport, nor sing, nor dance, you'll end up with a Homer Simpson in a few years time
21:38 < armijn> hmmm, donuts, arrrrghhhllllll!
21:38 < owl> *lol* playing guitar would be ok, btw :P but not a singing man... cuz most of men can't think imho :PPP
21:39 < armijn> skiing...never tried it, don't think I'll ever do
21:39 < armijn> ehr, ever will
21:40 < armijn> not much opportunity to ski over here...
21:40 < owl> armijn: why not? too old to learn? ;)
21:40 < armijn> owl: hey!
21:40 < owl> armijn: he-he :PP *vbeg*
21:40 < armijn> hrmpf
21:40 < armijn> owl is evil
21:41 < armijn> or tries to be
21:41 < owl> armijn: and i love it. i'm getting some training for tomorrow... then i have to be evil against my school-collegues :PPP
21:41 < armijn> but you aren't very good at it...
21:41 < armijn> owl: we all know that in reality you're just a very sweet girl...
21:42 < owl> armijn: you#re wrong
21:42 < armijn> and you're not evil at all
21:42 < armijn> owl: prove it
21:42 < owl> armijn: pf.
21:42 < armijn> what's evil about pf?
21:42 < armijn> pf is great
21:45 * blindcoder going to bed. good night
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22:00 < dreamind> Hi :)
22:01 < owl> hi dreamind
22:01 < dreamind> hi owl
22:01 < dreamind> huebi around? :)
22:01 < dreamind> s/^/is /
22:01 < owl> he was seen today... but... in the afternoon or so...
22:02 < dreamind> ah well ok ;) perhaps he 's here later today, I'll simply wait ;)
22:03 < owl> dreamind: i fear it could be possible, that you will wait for 2 weeks...
22:03 < dreamind> hm, holiday?
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22:03 < owl> dreamind: dunno.
22:04 < dreamind> well I'm not especially waiting for him, just staying here, to notice when he is around :)
22:04 < owl> dreamind: :P
22:04 < owl> have fun then
22:04 < dreamind> yup ;)
22:05 < Mike2> dreamind: any 1.5 matter on which you need help maybe?
22:05 < dreamind> btw, I'm searching developers/end-users who are using gnome2 and want to test my windowmanager (and report bugs to me asap(
22:05 < dreamind> Mike2: nope.
22:05 < Mike2> dreamind: what window manager?
22:05 < dreamind> huebi has a sun prom which I would like to get from him :)
22:05 < dreamind> Oroborus
22:06 < dreamind> www.oroborus.org
22:06 < dreamind> oroborus is not yet in rocklinux, but it is in nearly all other distros ;) (esp. Debian)
22:08 < Mike2> i will have a look at it sometime
22:08 < dreamind> yup, thanks :)
22:08 < Mike2> if i like it i will consider to add it
22:08 < dreamind> oh nice :)
22:09 -!- Mike2 is now known as Mike1
22:09 < dreamind> for your testing please use the current cvs version, it is a huge improvement to the current released version.
22:09 < Mike1> hehe ok
22:10 < dreamind> the stable version has only rudimentary gnome2 support.
22:10 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813FFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:10 < dreamind> and the cvs currently has almost full gnome2 support.
22:10 < tcr> moin all
22:10 < owl> hi tcr
22:10 < dreamind> well I still need to rewrite several things.
22:10 < dreamind> hi tcr
22:10 < dreamind> its not good when you take a ICCM windowmanager and simply "add" EWMH support...
22:11 < dreamind> (but I guess thats code specific)
22:11 < Mike1> what does oroborus mean?
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22:12 < dreamind> infinite rejuvenescence
22:12 < tcr> Mike1: an oroborus is a medievel symbol for holism
22:12 < Mike1> tcr: thanks :)
22:12 < tcr> Mike1: a snake that's biting in its own tail
22:12 < dreamind> its a Snake who bites its own tail.
22:12 < dreamind> hehe :)
22:13 < dreamind> so with oroborus it means "always" rework stuff *grin* ;)
22:13 < dreamind> (I meaned the wm)
22:14 * Mike1 looking at some screenshots
22:16 < dreamind> there are several themes, on the screenshots I mainly use the agua (aqua style, and thats no typing mistake) one
22:17 < Mike1> dreamind: agua = aqua in spanish :)
22:17 < dreamind> ah ok ;)
22:18 < dreamind> I didn't know that, it was a name taken by the original developer of oroborus, ken lynch
22:19 < armijn> heh
22:19 < Mike1> i see
22:20 < dreamind> I took over development about one and a half year ago.
22:20 < Mike1> what happened to ken lynch?
22:21 < armijn> "my oroborus is bigger than yours"
22:21 < Mike1> hahahahaha
22:22 < dreamind> ken lynch is no longer developing stuff for unices. he uses windows for some reason I don't know
22:22 < tcr> dreamind: it might be quite good to put on the page in what language it's written
22:23 < Mike1> dreamind: ur from darmstadt ?
22:23 < dreamind> Mike1: yup.
22:23 < tcr> well i recently read that dennis ritchie is using nt as terminal for a plan9 server *brrrr*
22:24 < dreamind> hm, strange people outside there ;)
22:24 < tcr> dreamind: so what's oroborus writte in?
22:24 < dreamind> tcr: its written in plain C
22:25 < dreamind> and oroborus only uses the Xlib.
22:25 < Mike1> armijn: is ur oroborus written in see C also?
22:25 < dreamind> armijn: your oroborus?
22:26 < Mike1> <armijn> "my oroborus is bigger than yours"
22:26 < armijn> heh :)
22:26 < Mike1> dreamind: we are just joking around :)
22:26 < tcr> :P mike and his opaque kind of humor
22:26 < dreamind> haha ;)
22:26 < dreamind> *grin*
22:26 < armijn> I mean, it's all about fun, right?
22:26 < dreamind> yup ;)
22:27 < Mike1> armijn: sure ur the soul of the party
22:27 < tcr> let's laugh at armijn ;)
22:27 < Mike1> tcr: sure but you first
22:28 < armijn> yay! I feel popular now!
22:28 < tcr> hey i'm not your replacement for owl!
22:28 < Mike1> armijn and owl, the popular couple in the chan
22:28 < armijn> dreamind: so, ehr, what makes oroborus so special compared to metacity or sawfish
22:28 < dreamind> please reload the oroborus page :)
22:28 < armijn> does it work in lynx?
22:29 < Mike1> News:
22:29 < Mike1> Oroborus is NO longer maintained by Ken Lynch, its now maintained by Stefan Pfetzing.
22:29 < tcr> at least in w3m armijn ;)
22:29 < Mike1> :)
22:29 < dreamind> its small. it has no menus. its fast. its easy configurable(by editing a file!). it has a *very* good set of default keyboard shortcuts.
22:29 < Mike1> dreamind: help me porting it to ELKS :)
22:29 < dreamind> Mike1: yea old news. I know. I have to rewrite that website.
22:30 < dreamind> but I hate html *grin*
22:30 < armijn> dreamind: is it 64 bit safe?
22:30 < dreamind> I prefer writing C or such :)
22:30 < dreamind> armijn: yup it works fine on linux/sparc64  linux/alpha and solaris8
22:30 < Mike1> dreamind: make a C app that create html pages
22:30 < Mike1> :)
22:30 < armijn> dreamind: freebsd/sparc64? openbsd/sparc64?
22:31 < dreamind> armijn: it should work, if not could you report it to me? :))
22:31 < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/html.html ;)
22:31 < Mike1> lol
22:32 < tcr> hint: the sourcecode is actual the nub
22:33 < armijn> dreamind: I haven't installed OpenBSD yet on my Ultra
22:33 < armijn> dreamind: it's running a very b0rken Debian/ROCK hybrid
22:33 < dreamind> armijn: well I recently used oroborus on an ultra10
22:33 < dreamind> but there are problems concerning the ffb driver.
22:33 < dreamind> and I yet haven't fixed them, the ati card in the same machine works fine.
22:34 < armijn> there isn't much documentation on the website
22:34 < dreamind> I guess its just because the ffb driver is really old and unfixed.
22:34 < armijn> as in, how to load it into your GNOME thing...
22:34 < armijn> dreamind: ffb in Linux?
22:34 < dreamind> ffb, yup the creator 3d card
22:34 < armijn> dreamind: which kernel?
22:34 < dreamind> 2.4.20
22:34 < dreamind> its mainly an Xfree86 problem I guess.
22:35 < armijn> no, framebuffer is in the kernel
22:35 < dreamind> no its a problem of the X11 driver.
22:35 < dreamind> definetely.
22:35 < armijn> ok you're the expert :)
22:35 < dreamind> with X11 stuff perhaps :)
22:36 < armijn> well, I'm not so...
22:36 < dreamind> well at least the x11 server is complaining about some things and the Xfree86 people told me that the ffb driver is in a nearly unmaintained state.
22:36 < armijn> still lots of stuff to learn
22:37 < dreamind> hm, you run Oroborus within Gnome2 by simply killall <your wm>;sleep 1;oroborus&
22:37 < armijn> and how do you make it you rdefault thing?
22:37 < dreamind> and then when you save your session when you quit it, gnome-session will start oroborus at your next login.
22:38 < dreamind> its session managed.
22:38 < dreamind> so gnome session knows that oroborus is running.
22:38 * armijn points out that that stuff is not on the website
22:39 < dreamind> that also has the improvement, that if oroborus dies, it will be restarted.
22:39 < dreamind> yet oroborus did't die on my machine (with stable releases, when I'm experimenting, it really often segfaults *grin*)
22:39 < dreamind> NULL pointers are quite evil *grin*
22:42 < tcr> well, last weekend I got used to like segfault rather than some other oddnesss
22:42 < tcr> oddnesses
22:43 < tcr> gdb is TEH pwn
22:43 < armijn> ehr?
22:45 < tcr> TEH as in TEH suck, and pwn as in own
22:46 < armijn> so, actually you are saying
22:46 < armijn> "gdb is suck own"
22:46 < armijn> which still is gibberishto me
22:46 < armijn> :)
22:46 < dreamind> yet oroborus did't die on my machine (with stable releases, when I'm experimenting, it really often segfaults *grin*)
22:46 < Mike1> how do you say: "I am sorry but i have to go" en german?
22:47 < dreamind> ups, wrong window...
22:47 < dreamind> Mike1: es tut mir leid, aber ich muss gehen :)
22:47 < Mike1> danke
22:47 < tcr> armijn: er, no TEH pwn as contrary to TEH suck ;)
22:47 < dreamind> Mike1: no problem :)
22:48 < rekcah> re
22:48 < Mike1> rekcah: welcome back
22:48 < armijn> tcr: and, ehr....ehr...what does it mean?
22:48 < armijn> tcr: I'm not that smart...
22:49 < dreamind> well perhaps I'll create a browseable source directory of oroborus :)
22:49 < dreamind> with vim's 2html feature, like I already used on my .bashrc and .zshrc :)
22:49 < armijn> heh, vim...
22:49 < dreamind> vim rulez :)
22:49 < tcr> armijn: just the opposite to the suck. Well it's just an allusion on common typing mistakes. For instance: ,prning instead of morning
22:49 < armijn> oh yeah, I know the authore pretty well...
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22:51 < armijn> s/authore/author/
22:51 < rekcah> damn, in my Uni when girls say study ios only to study :s
22:51 < armijn> hormones...
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22:53 < dreamind> night folks :)
22:53 * tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - We will never die
22:53 < tcr> gn8
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22:53 < owl> bye dr
22:53 < owl> *argh*
22:55 < armijn> tcr: eehw
22:56 * armijn listening to Nuclear Assault
22:56 < armijn> yes, I know, I'm an old fart...
22:57 * owl np: the sisters of mercy - i was wrong
22:57 < owl> *sing*
22:57 < armijn> owl: heh, they're funny...
22:57 < owl> armijn: you know them ? ;) they're great imho.
22:58 < armijn> owl: ehr? everyone knows sisters of mercy...
22:59 < owl> armijn: really? tcr - do you know them?
22:59 < tcr> yeah of course
22:59 < tcr> not my kind of music tho
23:00 < owl> tcr: *lol* that was clear... and now i'm shocked, because you're knowing them...
23:00 < armijn> sisters of mercy will play in amsterdam soon...for a few thousand people...
23:01 < owl> armijn: the same in munich... the crap is, that it's a monday...so i can't visit the concert *breakingintotears*
23:01 < armijn> apokalyptischen reiter will play on the No Mercy festivals...
23:01 < owl> ah so
23:01 < tcr> DAR \m/
23:02 < owl> *confused*
23:02 < tcr> already got their new album that will be published on 17.03.03
23:02 < armijn> so I will use that concert as a break ;-)
23:02 < armijn> the No Mercy tour looks funky this year...
23:03 < armijn> Testament, Death Angel, Pro Pain, Nuclear Assault...
23:03 < armijn> if only Dark Angel would play as well...
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23:04 * tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - Warum?
23:04 < tcr> damn that song is fucking rammstein like
23:04 < armijn> tcr: as in, a metal version of that hit of about 7 years ago?
23:05 < tcr> hum?
23:05 < armijn> well, about 7 years ago there was this single, from Germany, called "Warum?"
23:05 < tcr> dunno
23:05 < armijn> and it was a huge hit in .de and in .nl as well
23:07 < tcr> however. i consider the new album of DAR to be the worst they ever produced. It's not bad and a bit exotic for a metal band, but i hope they won't play much of it on that festival you're gonna take place
23:07 < armijn> ah, conservative
23:08 < tsa> re
23:10 < rekcah> Mike1: ping
23:10 < Mike1> pong
23:11 < rekcah> hey, no works for me yet ?
23:12 < Mike1> maybe
23:12 < rekcah> ?
23:12 < Mike1> rekcah: but what happened with the work at itcr?
23:12 < Mike1> i want to take 2 guys over there
23:12 < rekcah> they havent advised meyet
23:12 < Mike1> arrg ok
23:13 < rekcah> but.. i guess it will be done soon, or in vacation, when students are not using PCs
23:13 < Mike1> rekcah: i am negociating a wireless network in Cariari de Guapiles
23:13 < rekcah> which work for me ?
23:13 < rekcah> cool, i have family and friends there
23:13 < Mike1> so as soon as we finish detail i will take you there to work with me
23:13 < Mike1> yeah and kids also as i heard
23:13 < tcr> gn8 all
23:13 < rekcah> hehe
23:14 < rekcah> cya tcr
23:14 < armijn> ok, am off
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23:14 < Mike1> n8 tcr
23:14 < rekcah> armijn left rocklinux right ?
23:14 < rekcah> why ?
23:14 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813FFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("negerkuk med mjölk. heh lutziboy")
23:14 < Mike1> rekcah: because he wanna sleep maybe?
23:14 < Mike1> :)
23:14 < rekcah> arg
23:14 < Mike1> anyways
23:14 < Mike1> i'm off
23:14 < rekcah> i mean rock linux proyect !
23:14 < Mike1> read the list archive
23:14 < Mike1> 12/2002
23:15 < rekcah> ok
23:15 < Mike1> you will fine the reason there on his last email;
23:15 < Mike1> bye all
23:15 < rekcah> cya Mike1
23:15 < rekcah> have fun !
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