-!- Irrsi  Log opened Mon Feb 10 00:00:05 2003
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[00:57] < kasc> what does c-compiler multilib support do?
[01:15] < rolla> re
[01:15] < owl> hi rolla
[01:16] < owl> and good night
[01:23] < rolla> nacht owl
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[03:47] < rolla> re
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[12:28] < esden> morning
[12:33] < aszlig> moin esden
[12:33] < esden> hi aszlig
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[13:06] < [anders]> lo
[13:07]   [anders] is having a wee bit of lunch today before finishing of a five week backlog of timesheets...
[13:35] < [anders]> all timesheets done, and one manager looking very confused...
[13:35] < [anders]> *g*
[13:54] < huebi> moin
[13:55] < huebi> What is the URL for the cvs web frontend?
[14:07] < [anders]> lo huebi, long time no see..
[14:16] < huebi> hi [anders]
[14:16] < huebi> [anders]: how are you?
[14:20] < [anders]> huebi: recovering from being off ill with a lung infection for about three weeks..
[14:20] < [anders]> at site, but trying to take it reasonably easy....
[14:21] < owl> *yawn* morning
[14:37] < rolla> re
[14:38] < owl> hi rolla
[15:00] < kasc> moin
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[15:07] < tsa> moin
[15:07] < owl> hi tsa
[15:07] < tsa> hi owl
[15:16] < huebi> moin tsa
[15:16] < huebi> I get a new permanent internet connection in about 14 days. Then the
[15:16] < huebi> development of 1.6 will continue.
[15:16] < huebi> The major task are still the boot disks. There is still missing the
[15:16] < huebi> possibility of getting modules loaded from the root disk after booting. I
[15:16] < huebi> don't know a solution for that problem in the moment.
[15:16] < huebi> If that works, it's time again for a new prerelease and testing, testing,
[15:16] < huebi> testing...
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[15:16] < huebi> There are still many errors in 1.6.0preX. These should be found and fixed
[15:16] < huebi> in the next weeks. When SCSI systems are also installable and the most
[15:16] < huebi> anoying errors are found, 1.6.0 could be released.
[15:16] < huebi> After the release of 1.6.0 I plan to update gcc, glibc and gnome to the
[15:16] < huebi> current versions.
[15:16] < huebi> Also I want to add OpenLDAP and PAM as an option. Please let me hear your
[15:16] < huebi> comments on that.
[15:17] < huebi> Andreas
[15:17] < huebi> tsa: can you /msg me your address again?
[15:18] < tsa> sure
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[15:19] < owl> re
[15:19] < tsa> does this mean i can soon pay you for the CRT?
[15:23] < huebi> tsa: Yes, you can :-)))
[15:24] < owl> hi huebi o_O
[15:24] < huebi> hi owl
[15:42] < huebi> cu later
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[15:48] < esden> hi all
[15:50] < tsa> hi esden
[15:50] < tsa> hm...anyone who has a mbus ross 125mhz and wants to get rid of it?
[15:51] < esden> no sorry
[15:51] < owl> hi esden
[15:53] < esden> hi owl
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[16:39] [ [anders] ] [ chrisime_ ] [ hackbard] [ mayan ] [ rekcah] [ tfing ]
[16:39] [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ hannes_ ] [ Mike1 ] [ rolla ] [ tsa ]
[16:39] [ blindcod1r] [ fake ] [ huebi ] [ owl ] [ simon ] [ vectrax]
[16:39] [ blindcoder] [ Fremen|Out] [ ichilton] [ Parabull] [ SMP ]
[16:39] [ cchamilt ] [ Ge0rG ] [ kasc ] [ praenti ] [ snyke ]
[16:39] -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal]
[16:39] -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
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[16:39] < esden> re
[16:39] < rolla> re esden
[16:39] < esden> strange
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[16:39] < rolla> esden: was?
[16:40] < esden> it seems that the dns is getting crazy
[16:40] < esden> and/or the routes have changed
[16:40] < rekcah> hi esden
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[16:40] < esden> hi d3mian
[16:40] < rolla> suck
[16:40] < fake> esden: ping
[16:41] < esden> rolla: yups
[16:41] < esden> fake: reping
[16:41] < esden> fake: hi, nice to see you again
[16:41] < fake> esden: when do you have 'semesterferien' ?
[16:41] < esden> fake: they started on saturday for me, but I still have to finish my lego work
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[16:41] [ [anders] ] [ chrisime_] [ Fremen|Out] [ ichilton] [ Parabull] [ tfing ]
[16:41] [ aszlig ] [ d3mian ] [ Ge0rG ] [ kasc ] [ rolla ] [ tsa ]
[16:41] [ blindcod1r] [ esden ] [ hackbard ] [ mayan ] [ simon ] [ vectrax]
[16:41] [ blindcoder] [ esden__ ] [ hannes_ ] [ Mike1 ] [ SMP ]
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[16:41] -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal]
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[16:42] < esden> that should take one or two weeks
[16:42] < esden> that should take one or two weeks
[16:42] -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
[16:42] < esden> huh ?
[16:42] < esden> huh ?
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[16:42] < esden> another esden ?
[16:42] < esden> another esden ?
[16:42] < fake> esden: looking for a job?
[16:42] < fake> esden: looking for a job?
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[16:43] < fake> aaarghl
[16:43] < esden> fake: what kind ? how much paid ?
[16:44] < fake> esden: java stuff, jsp, database....
[16:44] < fake> esden: you could just talk to my boss about money...
[16:44] < fake> (we're one of the few IT firms looking for peoples...)
[16:45] < owl> fake: working again?
[16:49] < tsa> Solution: Replace faulty CPU module.
[16:49]   tsa smashing head against wall.
[16:50] < esden> odin was down ... that was the disconnect problem ...
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[17:32] < Mike1> moin all
[17:32] < d3mian> cya all
[17:32] < d3mian> -> classes
[17:32] < d3mian> hi Mike1 !
[17:32] < Mike1> d3mian: arrg
[17:32] < d3mian> da u drink Mike1 ?
[17:32] < Mike1> d3mian: quickly when are we going to itcr?
[17:32] < esden> hi Mike1
[17:32] < esden> !
[17:33] < d3mian> ?
[17:33] < Mike1> d3mian: no i don't drink >_<
[17:33] < d3mian> !! :(
[17:33] < d3mian> i was gonna invite u some beers
[17:33] < Mike1> h esden
[17:33] < Mike1> d3mian: you can gimme the money instead :)
[17:33] < d3mian> !!
[17:33] < d3mian> well, cya later
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[17:33] < Mike1> how are you esden?
[17:34] < owl> hi Mike1
[17:35] < Mike1> yo owly
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[17:44] < Mike1> yo kasc
[17:46] < esden> Mike1: I am fine thanks
[17:46] < esden> and how are you ?
[17:46]   esden documenting his lego robot ... >_<
[17:50] < Mike1> esden: i am great thanks
[18:17]   esden going swimming
[18:17] < esden> cu all
[18:17] < owl> bye esden, have fun
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[18:42] < tsa> == 18:12:35 =[5]=> Building kde-31/qt-31 [3.1.1 1.7-snapshot].
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[20:12] < kasc> re
[20:12] < Mike1> wb kasc
[20:12] < kasc> thx :)
[20:13] < tsa> re.
[20:13] < tsa> hi kasc
[20:13] < tsa> hi Mike1
[20:13] < Mike1> hello tsa
[20:20] < kasc> hi tsa
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[20:22] < Mike1> armijn: :)
[20:22] < armijn> hiya
[20:22] < armijn> this weekend there was FOSDEM
[20:22] < armijn> and there were sooooo many ROCK people...
[20:22] < Mike1> how was it?
[20:23] < Mike1> cool
[20:23] < armijn> like, 0
[20:23] < owl> hi armijn
[20:23] < armijn> only former ROCK people ;-)
[20:23] < Mike1> mm...
[20:23] < armijn> hi owl
[20:23] < armijn> I ran into geert bevin...
[20:23] < Mike1> armijn: define former ROCK people?
[20:23] < armijn> mike1: well, geert bevin...
[20:24] < Mike1> mmm..
[20:27] < armijn> seems he already left gentoo
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[20:31] < Mike1> wtf?
[20:31] < Mike1> what is he doing now?
[20:33] < tfing> not surprising, there had been some pbs between him and robbins
[20:33] < armijn> mike1: dunno
[20:34] < armijn> yeah. problems about portage....
[20:34] < tfing> that's what i heard
[20:35] < Mike1> i see
[20:36] < armijn> yeah, he told me about it...
[20:36] < armijn> robbins wanted to keep it in Python, geert wanted to rewrite it in C++
[20:36]   Mike1 wonders if ex-rock devs will create their own distro someday
[20:36] < armijn> haha
[20:36] < armijn> unlikely
[20:37] < tfing> though there are some tensions in rock sometimes
[20:37] < armijn> I know some of them pretty well, but "we" simply wouldn't have the time
[20:38] < armijn> hmm, tensions in ROCK, definitely
[20:38] < armijn> the 1.5 vs. 17 stuff...
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[20:40] < armijn> the 1.5 vs 1.7 stuff that basically made me decide to quit...as well as all the package management crap
[20:40] < armijn> it was still fun though :)
[20:41] < Mike1> armijn: have you considered to come back?
[20:41] < armijn> mike1: no
[20:42] < armijn> mike1: well, I considered it and the answer is "no"
[20:42] < Mike1> k
[20:42] < Mike1> k :(
[20:42] < armijn> I will also reinstall my Ultra with something else
[20:42] < Mike1> mandrake? *g
[20:42] < armijn> argh, no way :)
[20:43]   Mike1 remembering armijn's brave times with mdk
[20:43] < armijn> the mandrake for ultrasparc that exists is rather...ehr...broken...
[20:43] < Mike1> :)
[20:43] < armijn> no, I will install OpenBSD
[20:43] < Mike1> armijn: Splack?
[20:43] < armijn> OpenBSD :)
[20:43] < tsa> hehe
[20:43] < Mike1> nice
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[20:44] < armijn> I want to play around with "pf"
[20:44] < tsa> hm..i considered installing obsd on my ss20..
[20:44] < armijn> mike1: but regarding FOSDEM, it was nice
[20:44] < tsa> ..until i found out that obsd doesn't support SMP on sparc
[20:45] < armijn> I missed most of the talks though...
[20:45] < Mike1> armijn: :)
[20:45] < armijn> but the talks aren't the important thing on FOSDEM for me...
[20:45] < armijn> it's the people you see and talk to
[20:45] < tsa> ..which isn't too important because today i had to find out that one of the cpu modules is broken..
[20:45] < armijn> tsa; ouch
[20:45] < tsa> :-(((
[20:45] < Mike1> whats the important thing for you ?
[20:45] < Mike1> free beer?
[20:46] < armijn> mike1: no, "networking"
[20:46] < Mike1> :)
[20:46] < armijn> mike1: and meeting faces behind e-mail addresses
[20:46] < Mike1> :)
[20:47] < Mike1> sounds nice
[20:47] < Mike1> someday i will i guess, when i go to eu
[20:47] < armijn> heh, to meet owl?
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[20:47] < Mike1> yeah why not
[20:47] < armijn> mike1: I heard you and owl are getting pretty close...
[20:47] < Mike1> your marriage will be a good chance
[20:47] < armijn> *my* marriage?
[20:47] < armijn> your marriage! :)))
[20:48] < armijn> I heard she prefers spanish talking men...
[20:48] < armijn> and my spanish is crap
[20:48] < Mike1> sure aren't we talking about owl
[20:48] < Mike1> you know use the key words
[20:48] < Mike1> armijn ... owl ... marriage
[20:48] < Mike1> armijn: ah well tsa has a very good spanish
[20:49] < armijn> mike1: and he lives closer to owl...
[20:49] < armijn> mike1: would be better to couple those two...
[20:49] < Mike1> armijn: /me is getting married on 14/11/03
[20:49] < armijn> mike1: with your Ultra?
[20:49] < Mike1> armijn: well but would you sacrifice what you guys have just for the distance
[20:49] < Mike1> ?
[20:49] < Mike1> armijn: no with my girl friend
[20:50] < armijn> mike1: ah, that makes sense...
[20:50] < armijn> mike1: ehrm....what we have: little, distance: huge
[20:50] < armijn> look on your face: priceless...
[20:50] < armijn> (I watch too many commercials)
[20:51] < Mike1> lol
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[20:51] < Mike1> armijn: btw if you want to / can come over for my wedding it would be cool
[20:51] < tsa_> arghs
[20:51] < tsa_> re
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[20:51] < Mike1> armijn: now look at i was telling you
[20:51] < armijn> mike1: but, ehr...what about coupling tsa and owl
[20:51] < armijn> ?
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[20:51] < Mike1> tsa_: your spanish is very good right?
[20:52] < armijn> mike1: heheh...I'm not sure, don't count on it
[20:52] < tsa> Mike1: hm...why do you ask?
[20:52] < Mike1> armijn: too bad :(
[20:52] < armijn> tsa missed a big part of the conversation...
[20:52] < Mike1> tsa: just so armijn knows
[20:52] < armijn> tsa: we discovered that owl likes spanish talking men better...and my spanish is crap
[20:53] < armijn> and you live near(er)by
[20:53] < armijn> tsa: so we were thinking....
[20:53] < tsa> hm...
[20:53] < armijn> >:->
[20:53] < tsa> i guess i've just forgotten all my spanish..
[20:53] < armijn> all of a sudden?
[20:53] < Mike1> tsa: thats a fucking lie :)
[20:54] < tsa> yes.
[20:54] < tsa> sure..
[20:54] < tsa> Mike1: noooo...!
[20:54] < armijn> awww come on...
[20:54] < armijn> at least you could learn spanish for owl...
[20:54] < Mike1> tsa: don't resist to your destiny
[20:55] < tsa> Mike1: sure i will..
[20:56] < Mike1> tsa you can't
[20:56] < Mike1> soon or later it will happen
[20:56] < armijn> it's unavoidable!
[20:56] < tsa> "it"?
[20:56] < Mike1> right armijn?
[20:56] < armijn> it's written in the stars!
[20:56]   tsa doesn't read stars.
[20:56] < armijn> tsa: you and owl were made for eachother...
[20:57] < tsa> hm..i didn't know owl was human at all..
[20:57] < armijn> tsa: so what's wrong with her?
[20:57] < Mike1> tsa: its not about reading it about doing "it"
[20:57] < tsa> armijn: i guess my girlfriend won't like her..
[20:57] < armijn> doing it? they're already doing it?
[20:57] < Mike1> tsa: armijn realized he was just getting on the way for ur happines
[20:57] < Mike1> so he finally agreed to move away and let you 2 be together
[20:57] < armijn> wow, they progress rapidly...
[20:58]   armijn pets owl....
[20:58] < armijn> awww....
[20:58] < owl> aeh?
[20:58] < armijn> hihi :)
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[20:59] < owl> too lazy to read scrollback
[20:59] < Mike1> tsa: can't you have several girls?
[20:59] < armijn> tsa; yeah, several girls! it's every man's dream!
[20:59] < armijn> owl: good :)
[20:59] < owl> armijn: that sounds bad to me... if you say "good" i mean
[20:59] < Mike1> armijn: owl did you know tsa speaks spanish?
[21:00] < owl> Mike1: confused a bit? ;)
[21:00] < armijn> so it seems
[21:00] < Mike1> owl: why? can't armijn just be positive sometime?
[21:00] < armijn> mike1 is too excited
[21:00] < owl> Mike1: he can't
[21:01] < Mike1> armijn: of course, a new couple has come up
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[21:01] < d3mian> re
[21:01] -!- d3mian is now known as rekcah
[21:01] < Mike1> oh no, armijn here comes the lover
[21:01] < armijn> oh-ooh...
[21:01] < armijn> latin lover...
[21:01] < rekcah> ?
[21:01] < armijn> owl: you like latin lovers?
[21:01] < Mike1> wb d3mian
[21:01] < owl> *lol* totally insane...
[21:01] < owl> hi rekcah
[21:01] < armijn> owl: not even clueless latin lovers?
[21:02] < Mike1> armijn: see what i told, she is flirting already
[21:02] < armijn> mike1: so it seems...
[21:02] < rekcah> gonna study cals with a girl ;-) have fun!
[21:02] < Mike1> tsa: ..?
[21:02] < tsa> .
[21:02] < owl> <-- too lazy to answer or even think
[21:02]   rekcah away "studying"
[21:02] < armijn> owl: tuuuuurn.....oooon.....braaaaaaaain!
[21:03] < Mike1> armijn: brain?
[21:03] < tsa> armijn: no brain to turn on ?
[21:03] < armijn> mike1: yeah, the stuff in your head
[21:03] < Mike1> lol
[21:03] < Mike1> armijn: we are taling about owl
[21:03] < armijn> tsa: are you getting turned on now?? because we're talking about owl?
[21:04] < armijn> hmm :)
[21:04] < owl> armijn: are you sure, you're talking about me... i guess you said something like "tsa has no brain" :P
[21:04] < tsa> .oO( looks like some people around here will have to die soon..
[21:04] < armijn> tsa: ha! now you know how it feels!
[21:05] < Mike1> tsa: who?
[21:05] < owl> men... are talking too much
[21:05] < armijn> owl: I thought that was a female thing...
[21:05] < owl> armijn: nope
[21:05] < Mike1> owl: you are right, too much taling and no action
[21:05] < owl> Mike1: :P
[21:06] < armijn> hrmpf...mike1 is trying to win owl for him
[21:06] < armijn> it's quite obvious...
[21:06] < Mike1> armijn: LOL no
[21:06] < armijn> mike1: why not? don't you like her?
[21:06] < Mike1> i am not willing to compete againt you 3 guys
[21:07] < armijn> 3 guys?
[21:07] < Mike1> i mean armijn, tsa and rekcah
[21:07] < armijn> ah, I thought you were talking about owl..
[21:07] < owl> absolutely insane
[21:08] < armijn> owl: is it?
[21:08] < armijn> owl: or maybe it is true...
[21:08] < owl> armijn: it is
[21:08] < owl> insane
[21:08] < armijn> owl: you like that?
[21:08] < Mike1> omg this is going really nasty
[21:08] < armijn> want fries with that?
[21:09] < owl> nfc
[21:09] < armijn> I don't know "nfc", I do know "KFC"
[21:10] < owl> nfc=no further comments
[21:10] < armijn> aah...so not something like "nevada fried chicken"
[21:10] < Mike1> owl: i thought it was no fucking comments
[21:11] < Mike1> armijn: no its nordish fried chicken
[21:11] < armijn> mike1: that's just your mind...
[21:11] < owl> aaaahh!!! damn. which idiot has dance music at his website added! this doesn't fit together with "goethes erben" *dying*
[21:12] < Mike1> HAHAHAHA
[21:12] < owl> my ears
[21:12] < Mike1> talking about that owl are you into "dancing"?
[21:12] < armijn> owl: gothic erdbeeren?
[21:12] < owl> armijn: pardon?
[21:12] < armijn> (or -e_
[21:12] < armijn> owl: you know...strawberries...
[21:12] < armijn> what are they called in german?
[21:12] < owl> why do you mean strawberries?
[21:13] < owl> erdbeeren
[21:13] < armijn> well, you were talking about "gothic erdbeeren"
[21:13] < owl> no... goethes erben... it's a name of a band
[21:14] < armijn> I think gothic erdbeeren sounds funnier...
[21:14] < armijn> mike1: #define dancing
[21:14] < owl> armijn: *kick*
[21:14] < Mike1> armijn: you know ... dancing ...
[21:15] < Mike1> owl: are you into dacing?
[21:15] < armijn> owl: ouch!
[21:15] < armijn> mike1: dancing or dance music?
[21:15] < owl> Mike1: i'm a software dev. not a dancer
[21:15] < Mike1> armijn: i think a good way to define it is ... "artistic" dance?
[21:15] < armijn> mike1: like tango?
[21:16] < Mike1> armijn: let your imagination give the answers to you
[21:16] < Mike1> :)
[21:16] < Mike1> owl: software device?
[21:16] < owl> developer
[21:16] < owl> (wah. you force me to write too much)
[21:16] < Mike1> *g
[21:17] < Mike1> i've heard geek girls are nasty, what do you think armijn?
[21:17] < armijn> mike1: heh :)
[21:17] < armijn> owl should post pcitures of herself on the Internet...
[21:18] < armijn> so we all know what she looks like...
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[21:18] < armijn> or maybe, maybe she should come to a conference once...
[21:18] < blindcoder> hi
[21:19] < Mike1> owl: send us some pics
[21:19] < Mike1> hi blindy
[21:20] < blindcoder> owl and dance music? TAHT I watn to see :)
[21:21] < Mike1> blindcoder: sure it is something not very common
[21:21] < blindcoder> Mike1: no, I want to see it to dance with her :)
[21:21] < armijn> blindcoder: you want to dance with owl?
[21:22] < armijn> seems owl is *very* popular!
[21:22] < blindcoder> armijn: sure. i don't have bronze, silver and gold for nothing
[21:22] < armijn> heh
[21:23] < armijn> but, talking about music, I should put on a new record...
[21:23] < Mike1> blindcoder: you will need a horse of course
[21:23] < Mike1> armijn: singer?
[21:23] < Mike1> :)
[21:23] < blindcoder> Mike1: hehe
[21:25] < armijn> mike1: ehr, no...as in, play a new record?
[21:25] < armijn> mike1: on my record player...
[21:25] < owl> re
[21:26] < owl> blindcoder: hi. no! just a website had this background music...
[21:26] < Mike1> armijn: would you sing for owl?
[21:26] < blindcoder> owl: sad
[21:27] < owl> blindcoder: ???
[21:27] < armijn> mike1: no
[21:27] < Mike1> owl: did you see the link is ent to you
[21:27] < Mike1> ?
[21:27] < blindcoder> owl: I had liked to dance with you :)
[21:27] < owl> blindcoder: omg
[21:28] < blindcoder> owl: "they" (whoever that may be) always say that men who a) CAN dance and b) LIKE to dance are rare
[21:28] < owl> dancing with me is something like my mum using a PC... - impossible
[21:28] < armijn> mike1: I only put on a new record, that's all...
[21:28] < blindcoder> owl: but I think that women that meet both criteria are at least as rare
[21:28] < armijn> owl: she doesn't like PCs?
[21:28] < Mike1> armijn but maybe that would help you get her?
[21:29] < armijn> owl: she prefers real computers?
[21:29] < armijn> owl: do you want me to sing for you???
[21:29] < owl> armijn: she even doesn't know where to switch on the pc
[21:29] < owl> no. don't sing
[21:29] < Mike1> owl: i will teach you to dance tango
[21:30] < owl> thx. i don't want to
[21:30] < armijn> mike1: no, she doesn't want me to sing for her
[21:31] < Mike1> owl: i never asked if you wanted to learn, i said that iw ill teach you
[21:31] < owl> Mike1: no chance
[21:32] < Mike1> would you prefer to dance with blindy?
[21:35] < owl> Mike1: i would prefer not to dance
[21:35] < armijn> heh
[21:36] < owl> armijn: ?
[21:36] < armijn> just heh
[21:36] < armijn> owl: so your ideal man doesn't sing, nor dance...
[21:36] < owl> full ack
[21:36] < armijn> and no sport?
[21:36] < blindcoder> okay, just activated www.animeftp.net (after 3 months :)
[21:37] < owl> armijn: *lol* skiing, please.
[21:37] < owl> :P
[21:37] < armijn> skiing...brbrr
[21:37] < owl> armijn: *lol* why?
[21:37] < owl> it's a lot of fun imho :)
[21:38] < armijn> owl: I was wondering, if he doesn't sport, nor sing, nor dance, you'll end up with a Homer Simpson in a few years time
[21:38] < armijn> hmmm, donuts, arrrrghhhllllll!
[21:38] < owl> *lol* playing guitar would be ok, btw :P but not a singing man... cuz most of men can't think imho :PPP
[21:39] < armijn> skiing...never tried it, don't think I'll ever do
[21:39] < armijn> ehr, ever will
[21:40] < armijn> not much opportunity to ski over here...
[21:40] < owl> armijn: why not? too old to learn? ;)
[21:40] < armijn> owl: hey!
[21:40] < owl> armijn: he-he :PP *vbeg*
[21:40] < armijn> hrmpf
[21:40] < armijn> owl is evil
[21:41] < armijn> or tries to be
[21:41] < owl> armijn: and i love it. i'm getting some training for tomorrow... then i have to be evil against my school-collegues :PPP
[21:41] < armijn> but you aren't very good at it...
[21:41] < armijn> owl: we all know that in reality you're just a very sweet girl...
[21:42] < owl> armijn: you#re wrong
[21:42] < armijn> and you're not evil at all
[21:42] < armijn> owl: prove it
[21:42] < owl> armijn: pf.
[21:42] < armijn> what's evil about pf?
[21:42] < armijn> pf is great
[21:45]   blindcoder going to bed. good night
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[22:00] < dreamind> Hi :)
[22:01] < owl> hi dreamind
[22:01] < dreamind> hi owl
[22:01] < dreamind> huebi around? :)
[22:01] < dreamind> s/^/is /
[22:01] < owl> he was seen today... but... in the afternoon or so...
[22:02] < dreamind> ah well ok ;) perhaps he 's here later today, I'll simply wait ;)
[22:03] < owl> dreamind: i fear it could be possible, that you will wait for 2 weeks...
[22:03] < dreamind> hm, holiday?
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[22:03] < owl> dreamind: dunno.
[22:04] < dreamind> well I'm not especially waiting for him, just staying here, to notice when he is around :)
[22:04] < owl> dreamind: :P
[22:04] < owl> have fun then
[22:04] < dreamind> yup ;)
[22:05] < Mike2> dreamind: any 1.5 matter on which you need help maybe?
[22:05] < dreamind> btw, I'm searching developers/end-users who are using gnome2 and want to test my windowmanager (and report bugs to me asap(
[22:05] < dreamind> Mike2: nope.
[22:05] < Mike2> dreamind: what window manager?
[22:05] < dreamind> huebi has a sun prom which I would like to get from him :)
[22:05] < dreamind> Oroborus
[22:06] < dreamind> www.oroborus.org
[22:06] < dreamind> oroborus is not yet in rocklinux, but it is in nearly all other distros ;) (esp. Debian)
[22:08] < Mike2> i will have a look at it sometime
[22:08] < dreamind> yup, thanks :)
[22:08] < Mike2> if i like it i will consider to add it
[22:08] < dreamind> oh nice :)
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[22:09] < dreamind> for your testing please use the current cvs version, it is a huge improvement to the current released version.
[22:09] < Mike1> hehe ok
[22:10] < dreamind> the stable version has only rudimentary gnome2 support.
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[22:10] < dreamind> and the cvs currently has almost full gnome2 support.
[22:10] < tcr> moin all
[22:10] < owl> hi tcr
[22:10] < dreamind> well I still need to rewrite several things.
[22:10] < dreamind> hi tcr
[22:10] < dreamind> its not good when you take a ICCM windowmanager and simply "add" EWMH support...
[22:11] < dreamind> (but I guess thats code specific)
[22:11] < Mike1> what does oroborus mean?
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[22:12] < dreamind> infinite rejuvenescence
[22:12] < tcr> Mike1: an oroborus is a medievel symbol for holism
[22:12] < Mike1> tcr: thanks :)
[22:12] < tcr> Mike1: a snake that's biting in its own tail
[22:12] < dreamind> its a Snake who bites its own tail.
[22:12] < dreamind> hehe :)
[22:13] < dreamind> so with oroborus it means "always" rework stuff *grin* ;)
[22:13] < dreamind> (I meaned the wm)
[22:14]   Mike1 looking at some screenshots
[22:16] < dreamind> there are several themes, on the screenshots I mainly use the agua (aqua style, and thats no typing mistake) one
[22:17] < Mike1> dreamind: agua = aqua in spanish :)
[22:17] < dreamind> ah ok ;)
[22:18] < dreamind> I didn't know that, it was a name taken by the original developer of oroborus, ken lynch
[22:19] < armijn> heh
[22:19] < Mike1> i see
[22:20] < dreamind> I took over development about one and a half year ago.
[22:20] < Mike1> what happened to ken lynch?
[22:21] < armijn> "my oroborus is bigger than yours"
[22:21] < Mike1> hahahahaha
[22:22] < dreamind> ken lynch is no longer developing stuff for unices. he uses windows for some reason I don't know
[22:22] < tcr> dreamind: it might be quite good to put on the page in what language it's written
[22:23] < Mike1> dreamind: ur from darmstadt ?
[22:23] < dreamind> Mike1: yup.
[22:23] < tcr> well i recently read that dennis ritchie is using nt as terminal for a plan9 server *brrrr*
[22:24] < dreamind> hm, strange people outside there ;)
[22:24] < tcr> dreamind: so what's oroborus writte in?
[22:24] < dreamind> tcr: its written in plain C
[22:25] < dreamind> and oroborus only uses the Xlib.
[22:25] < Mike1> armijn: is ur oroborus written in see C also?
[22:25] < dreamind> armijn: your oroborus?
[22:26] < Mike1> <armijn> "my oroborus is bigger than yours"
[22:26] < armijn> heh :)
[22:26] < Mike1> dreamind: we are just joking around :)
[22:26] < tcr> :P mike and his opaque kind of humor
[22:26] < dreamind> haha ;)
[22:26] < dreamind> *grin*
[22:26] < armijn> I mean, it's all about fun, right?
[22:26] < dreamind> yup ;)
[22:27] < Mike1> armijn: sure ur the soul of the party
[22:27] < tcr> let's laugh at armijn ;)
[22:27] < Mike1> tcr: sure but you first
[22:28] < armijn> yay! I feel popular now!
[22:28] < tcr> hey i'm not your replacement for owl!
[22:28] < Mike1> armijn and owl, the popular couple in the chan
[22:28] < armijn> dreamind: so, ehr, what makes oroborus so special compared to metacity or sawfish
[22:28] < dreamind> please reload the oroborus page :)
[22:28] < armijn> does it work in lynx?
[22:29] < Mike1> News:
[22:29] < Mike1> Oroborus is NO longer maintained by Ken Lynch, its now maintained by Stefan Pfetzing.
[22:29] < tcr> at least in w3m armijn ;)
[22:29] < Mike1> :)
[22:29] < dreamind> its small. it has no menus. its fast. its easy configurable(by editing a file!). it has a *very* good set of default keyboard shortcuts.
[22:29] < Mike1> dreamind: help me porting it to ELKS :)
[22:29] < dreamind> Mike1: yea old news. I know. I have to rewrite that website.
[22:30] < dreamind> but I hate html *grin*
[22:30] < armijn> dreamind: is it 64 bit safe?
[22:30] < dreamind> I prefer writing C or such :)
[22:30] < dreamind> armijn: yup it works fine on linux/sparc64  linux/alpha and solaris8
[22:30] < Mike1> dreamind: make a C app that create html pages
[22:30] < Mike1> :)
[22:30] < armijn> dreamind: freebsd/sparc64? openbsd/sparc64?
[22:31] < dreamind> armijn: it should work, if not could you report it to me? :))
[22:31] < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/html.html ;)
[22:31] < Mike1> lol
[22:32] < tcr> hint: the sourcecode is actual the nub
[22:33] < armijn> dreamind: I haven't installed OpenBSD yet on my Ultra
[22:33] < armijn> dreamind: it's running a very b0rken Debian/ROCK hybrid
[22:33] < dreamind> armijn: well I recently used oroborus on an ultra10
[22:33] < dreamind> but there are problems concerning the ffb driver.
[22:33] < dreamind> and I yet haven't fixed them, the ati card in the same machine works fine.
[22:34] < armijn> there isn't much documentation on the website
[22:34] < dreamind> I guess its just because the ffb driver is really old and unfixed.
[22:34] < armijn> as in, how to load it into your GNOME thing...
[22:34] < armijn> dreamind: ffb in Linux?
[22:34] < dreamind> ffb, yup the creator 3d card
[22:34] < armijn> dreamind: which kernel?
[22:34] < dreamind> 2.4.20
[22:34] < dreamind> its mainly an Xfree86 problem I guess.
[22:35] < armijn> no, framebuffer is in the kernel
[22:35] < dreamind> no its a problem of the X11 driver.
[22:35] < dreamind> definetely.
[22:35] < armijn> ok you're the expert :)
[22:35] < dreamind> with X11 stuff perhaps :)
[22:36] < armijn> well, I'm not so...
[22:36] < dreamind> well at least the x11 server is complaining about some things and the Xfree86 people told me that the ffb driver is in a nearly unmaintained state.
[22:36] < armijn> still lots of stuff to learn
[22:37] < dreamind> hm, you run Oroborus within Gnome2 by simply killall <your wm>;sleep 1;oroborus&
[22:37] < armijn> and how do you make it you rdefault thing?
[22:37] < dreamind> and then when you save your session when you quit it, gnome-session will start oroborus at your next login.
[22:38] < dreamind> its session managed.
[22:38] < dreamind> so gnome session knows that oroborus is running.
[22:38]   armijn points out that that stuff is not on the website
[22:39] < dreamind> that also has the improvement, that if oroborus dies, it will be restarted.
[22:39] < dreamind> yet oroborus did't die on my machine (with stable releases, when I'm experimenting, it really often segfaults *grin*)
[22:39] < dreamind> NULL pointers are quite evil *grin*
[22:42] < tcr> well, last weekend I got used to like segfault rather than some other oddnesss
[22:42] < tcr> oddnesses
[22:43] < tcr> gdb is TEH pwn
[22:43] < armijn> ehr?
[22:45] < tcr> TEH as in TEH suck, and pwn as in own
[22:46] < armijn> so, actually you are saying
[22:46] < armijn> "gdb is suck own"
[22:46] < armijn> which still is gibberishto me
[22:46] < armijn> :)
[22:46] < dreamind> yet oroborus did't die on my machine (with stable releases, when I'm experimenting, it really often segfaults *grin*)
[22:46] < Mike1> how do you say: "I am sorry but i have to go" en german?
[22:47] < dreamind> ups, wrong window...
[22:47] < dreamind> Mike1: es tut mir leid, aber ich muss gehen :)
[22:47] < Mike1> danke
[22:47] < tcr> armijn: er, no TEH pwn as contrary to TEH suck ;)
[22:47] < dreamind> Mike1: no problem :)
[22:48] < rekcah> re
[22:48] < Mike1> rekcah: welcome back
[22:48] < armijn> tcr: and, ehr....ehr...what does it mean?
[22:48] < armijn> tcr: I'm not that smart...
[22:49] < dreamind> well perhaps I'll create a browseable source directory of oroborus :)
[22:49] < dreamind> with vim's 2html feature, like I already used on my .bashrc and .zshrc :)
[22:49] < armijn> heh, vim...
[22:49] < dreamind> vim rulez :)
[22:49] < tcr> armijn: just the opposite to the suck. Well it's just an allusion on common typing mistakes. For instance: ,prning instead of morning
[22:49] < armijn> oh yeah, I know the authore pretty well...
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[22:51] < armijn> s/authore/author/
[22:51] < rekcah> damn, in my Uni when girls say study ios only to study :s
[22:51] < armijn> hormones...
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[22:53] < dreamind> night folks :)
[22:53]   tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - We will never die
[22:53] < tcr> gn8
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[22:53] < owl> bye dr
[22:53] < owl> *argh*
[22:55] < armijn> tcr: eehw
[22:56]   armijn listening to Nuclear Assault
[22:56] < armijn> yes, I know, I'm an old fart...
[22:57]   owl np: the sisters of mercy - i was wrong
[22:57] < owl> *sing*
[22:57] < armijn> owl: heh, they're funny...
[22:57] < owl> armijn: you know them ? ;) they're great imho.
[22:58] < armijn> owl: ehr? everyone knows sisters of mercy...
[22:59] < owl> armijn: really? tcr - do you know them?
[22:59] < tcr> yeah of course
[22:59] < tcr> not my kind of music tho
[23:00] < owl> tcr: *lol* that was clear... and now i'm shocked, because you're knowing them...
[23:00] < armijn> sisters of mercy will play in amsterdam soon...for a few thousand people...
[23:01] < owl> armijn: the same in munich... the crap is, that it's a monday...so i can't visit the concert *breakingintotears*
[23:01] < armijn> apokalyptischen reiter will play on the No Mercy festivals...
[23:01] < owl> ah so
[23:01] < tcr> DAR \m/
[23:02] < owl> *confused*
[23:02] < tcr> already got their new album that will be published on 17.03.03
[23:02] < armijn> so I will use that concert as a break ;-)
[23:02] < armijn> the No Mercy tour looks funky this year...
[23:03] < armijn> Testament, Death Angel, Pro Pain, Nuclear Assault...
[23:03] < armijn> if only Dark Angel would play as well...
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[23:04]   tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - Warum?
[23:04] < tcr> damn that song is fucking rammstein like
[23:04] < armijn> tcr: as in, a metal version of that hit of about 7 years ago?
[23:05] < tcr> hum?
[23:05] < armijn> well, about 7 years ago there was this single, from Germany, called "Warum?"
[23:05] < tcr> dunno
[23:05] < armijn> and it was a huge hit in .de and in .nl as well
[23:07] < tcr> however. i consider the new album of DAR to be the worst they ever produced. It's not bad and a bit exotic for a metal band, but i hope they won't play much of it on that festival you're gonna take place
[23:07] < armijn> ah, conservative
[23:08] < tsa> re
[23:10] < rekcah> Mike1: ping
[23:10] < Mike1> pong
[23:11] < rekcah> hey, no works for me yet ?
[23:12] < Mike1> maybe
[23:12] < rekcah> ?
[23:12] < Mike1> rekcah: but what happened with the work at itcr?
[23:12] < Mike1> i want to take 2 guys over there
[23:12] < rekcah> they havent advised meyet
[23:12] < Mike1> arrg ok
[23:13] < rekcah> but.. i guess it will be done soon, or in vacation, when students are not using PCs
[23:13] < Mike1> rekcah: i am negociating a wireless network in Cariari de Guapiles
[23:13] < rekcah> which work for me ?
[23:13] < rekcah> cool, i have family and friends there
[23:13] < Mike1> so as soon as we finish detail i will take you there to work with me
[23:13] < Mike1> yeah and kids also as i heard
[23:13] < tcr> gn8 all
[23:13] < rekcah> hehe
[23:14] < rekcah> cya tcr
[23:14] < armijn> ok, am off
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[23:14] < Mike1> n8 tcr
[23:14] < rekcah> armijn left rocklinux right ?
[23:14] < rekcah> why ?
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[23:14] < Mike1> rekcah: because he wanna sleep maybe?
[23:14] < Mike1> :)
[23:14] < rekcah> arg
[23:14] < Mike1> anyways
[23:14] < Mike1> i'm off
[23:14] < rekcah> i mean rock linux proyect !
[23:14] < Mike1> read the list archive
[23:14] < Mike1> 12/2002
[23:15] < rekcah> ok
[23:15] < Mike1> you will fine the reason there on his last email;
[23:15] < Mike1> bye all
[23:15] < rekcah> cya Mike1
[23:15] < rekcah> have fun !
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