--- Log opened Wed Apr 09 00:00:50 2003
--- Day changed Wed Apr 09 2003
00:14 < huebi> Good night. :-)
00:14 < Mike1> huebi: !!!!!!!
00:15 < _NULL> hi and bye, huebi
00:15 < Mike1> _NULL: bye.
00:15 < _NULL> Mike1: eh! i'm still here! ;)
00:15 < Mike1> _NULL: then why bye?
00:16 < _NULL> Mike1: scrollback
00:16 < Mike1> well i think huebi just got here or not?
00:16 < _NULL> i thought he leave?
00:16 < _NULL> s
00:16 < _NULL> hm. whatever
00:17 < Mike1> *hug*
00:17 < _NULL> *g*
00:18 < Mike1> guess you are right he left..
00:18 < Mike1> :((
00:18 < _NULL> Mike1: *g* gn8 imho means "bye" :p
00:18 < Mike1> i know, i guess i just hoping the contrary
00:18 < Mike1> ah well nevermind.
00:19 < _NULL> hehe. full ack
00:25 < A-Tui> bye all!
00:25 < A-Tui> buenas noches!
00:25 < Mike1> bye Aitor
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00:42 < Mike1> == 06:41:31 =[1]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 1.7-snapshot].
00:42 < Mike1> -> Building this package with dietlibc (statically).
00:42 < Mike1> -> Changing my mind and not building with dietlibc.
00:43 < Mike1> *LOL*
00:44 < capchaos> lol
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01:22 * capchaos building mplayer-0.90 ... gcc -c -O4 -march=athlon-xp -mcpu=athlon-xp -pipe -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer
01:40 < esden> re hi all
01:41 < capchaos> hi esden
01:42 < esden> hi capchaos 
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04:02 < hmpf> ping esden
04:04 < hmpf> :(
04:04 < hmpf> bye.
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06:30 < Lorini> good mooooooooooooooooooooooorning
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09:16 < _NULL> *yawn* morning
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09:17 < _NULL> hi Obi-Wan
09:21 < huebi> Moin
09:23 < _NULL> hi huebi
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09:33 < Obi-Wan> hi _NULL
09:43 < huebi> moin _NULL
09:47 < _NULL> muhahahahahahaha!
09:48 < _NULL> https://www.microsoft.com/germany/library/resourcesmod/linux_partner_brosch.pdf  << read this!
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12:36 < blindcoder> _NULL: 404
12:36 < _NULL> ??? should work...
12:38 < blindcoder> but doesn't
12:38 < blindcoder> 12:38 < blindcoder> but doesn't
12:38 < blindcoder>  [12:38] [blindcoder(+ei)] [3:#rocklinux(+cn)] [Act: 1,4]
12:38 < blindcoder> oops, sorry
12:40 < _NULL> https://www.microsoft.com/germany/library/resourcesmod/open_source_vs_open_standards.pdf once again
12:48 < blindcoder> wow
12:48 < blindcoder> not a single MS-Marketese-word in it
12:49 < _NULL> it's a funny .pdf, eh? ;)
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12:50 < blindcoder> yeah
12:50 < blindcoder> it even contains 50% truth
12:50 < _NULL> e.g.?
12:51 < blindcoder> well, it says nowhere that MS uses Open Standards
12:51 < _NULL> hehe :)
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13:56 < daja77> moin
13:56 < _NULL> hi daja77
13:58 < daja77> hi _NULL
13:59 < fake> hi
13:59 < daja77> hi fake
14:00 < _NULL> moin fake
14:01 < _NULL> how's school? ;)
14:02 < daja77> _NULL: how is BWL?
14:02 < _NULL> daja77: waaah.... don't remind me. tomorrow i will die
14:03 * daja77 is already dead
14:03 < _NULL> hrm
14:04 < daja77> hysterical rude maid?
14:06 < _NULL> daja77: pardon?!!!
14:06 < daja77> explanation for hrm :)
14:06 < _NULL> *grrr*
14:07 < daja77> *smile*
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14:24 < daja77> *yawn*
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14:27 < daja77> hi capchaos
14:28 < capchaos> hey daja77
14:28 < daja77> how do you like arcor?
14:28 < capchaos> It's cheap
14:29 < capchaos> before 18:00
14:29 < daja77> so you don't have a flatrate?
14:29 < capchaos> No :(
14:29 < daja77> poor capchaos
14:35 < daja77> yeah OpenBSD gets money from the US Military
14:36 < capchaos> yeah, poor Germany
14:37 < daja77> the funny part is that they can't pay them directly because Theo lives in Canada
14:41 < rolla> re
14:42 < daja77> re rolla
15:10 < daja77> wee, I found my sourceforge account
15:54 < daja77> *aaaargh*
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16:46 < Mike1> moin all
16:46 < Lorini> hey mike
16:46 < Lorini> timing :)
16:46 < daja77> hi Mike1, Lorini
16:47 < _NULL> hi Mike1, Lorini
16:47 < daja77> _NULL: you copy 'n' paste me ?
16:47 < _NULL> daja77: sure
16:48 < daja77> _NULL: lazy girl :P
16:48 < _NULL> nope
16:49 < _NULL> not lazy.
16:49 < daja77> :)
16:49 < Mike1> daja77: _NULL fighting again?
16:49 < _NULL> i'm going home. (escaping from office filled with project managers which are dumb as hell)
16:49 < _NULL> cya
16:50 < daja77> bye _NULL
17:11 < rolla> re
17:11 < rolla> Mike1:
17:12 < Mike1> rolla:
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17:30 < Mike1> moin blindy
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18:01 < Mike1> ping blindcod1r / esden / anyone?
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18:21 < daja77> wow Lorini made a spell for Mike1 :)
18:21 < Mike1> *g
18:41 < Mike1> brb
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18:58 < daja77> wb Mike1
18:59 < Mike1> thanks.
18:59 < Mike1> Re all.
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18:59 < esden> re Mike1 
18:59 < daja77> hi esden
18:59 < esden> and yes hi all ;-)
18:59 < esden> hi daja77 
19:00 < esden> bagdad has fallen ... hmm can one believe that?
19:00 < daja77> no
19:00 < Mike1> esden: yeah i saw that earlier whn i was having breakfast at home.
19:01 < esden> daja77: yes I think so too
19:01 < Mike1> esden: lets hope the whole war crap is finished soon.
19:01 < daja77> full ack
19:02 < esden> full ack from me too
19:03 * -> esden is asking himself what we can do to make the world a better place to live ...
19:03 < esden> we as developers/programmers/computer scientists
19:03 < Mike1> move to mars?
19:04 < daja77> esden: do not develop for military
19:04 < daja77> ...and of course do not vote for as**les
19:04 < esden> so I should stop to learn and probably later develop in the area of neuronal nets?
19:05 < daja77> why, they can be be used by military too
19:05 < Mike1> true
19:06 < esden> daja77: but how to decide who is an ass and who not ... most politicians are assholes
19:06 < daja77> well everything can be used by military *sigh*
19:06 < esden> daja77: they can be used also in civil areas
19:06 < daja77> esden: ok then just vote those who have no ambitions for war
19:07 < daja77> esden: yes but I still don't get why you should wait with your studies
19:07 < esden> no I do not mean that
19:08 < esden> but I am learning in the direction of neuronal nets
19:08 < esden> because it is VERY interesting
19:08 < daja77> how will this make the world  a better place?
19:08 < esden> and simpler then I have ever thought
19:08 < daja77> :)
19:09 < esden> who knows this is a vagly explored area of computer science
19:09 < esden> there is still a lot to do
19:09 < daja77> I'd like to continue discussion but I have to go home now :(
19:09 < Mike1> esden: if you are looking for a team to start researching on this, count me in.
19:10 < esden> perhups one can use that to create replacements for cortecses in our brains ... and understand the workings in our brains
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19:10 < esden> that will help to heal brain injuries
19:10 < esden> ok ... cu l8er daja77 
19:10 < daja77> esden: yeah let's install linux on dumb people's brains
19:10 < esden> hehe something like that ;-)
19:10 < Mike1> :
19:10 < Mike1> :)
19:11 < daja77> ok bye :)
19:11 < esden> the open source brain under GPL ;-)
19:11 < Mike1> _NULL: would you donate your brain for our research?
19:12 < esden> If there is a possibility to get a implant in my brain I will be the first to voulenteer
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19:13 < Mike1> esden you are nuts.
19:13 < esden> why?
19:13 < dreamind> Hi folks ;)
19:13 < esden> hi dreamind 
19:15 < dreamind> hi esden :)
19:16 < Mike1> why first use owl, if the implant is sucessfull you do it
19:16 < esden> why owl?
19:17 < Mike1> ah well you can use snyke too
19:18 < esden> why him?
19:18 < esden> my brain is as good as any other ...
19:18 < Mike1> why do you need to ask why?
19:18 < Mike1> esden yes thats the point, your brain is too good to risk to fuck it up.
19:18 < Mike1> :)
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19:21 < esden> yea sure Mike1 
19:21 < Mike1> :)
19:21 < Mike1> welcome back Lorini
19:21 < esden> re Lorini 
19:21 < Lorini> re
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19:38 < vectrax> hi ;)
19:38 < esden> hi vectrax 
19:38 < fake> vectrax ? you? here? ;)
19:41 < esden> hi fake 
19:42 < Mike1> hi fake.
19:46 * -> esden off -> swimming
19:46 < esden> cu l8er
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19:47 < daja77> re
19:47 < vectrax> yes ;)
19:48 < daja77> hi vectrax :)
19:48 < vectrax> hi daja ;)
19:48 * daja77 can't remember having seen vectrax before
19:49 < vectrax> well... i'm not really often here...
19:49 < daja77> why?
19:49 < vectrax> well... M)
19:49 < vectrax> ;)
19:49 < daja77> hehe, i see :D
19:55 < _NULL> rehi
19:55 < Mike1> _NULL: !!!!!! *HUG*
19:55 < _NULL> hi Mike1 ;p
19:55 * Mike1 is waiting to get the hug back...
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19:56 < daja77> re hi _NULL
19:56 < _NULL> hi jhidalgo
19:57 < daja77> hello jhidalgo
19:57 < _NULL> hi daja77
19:57 < daja77> :)
19:57 < jhidalgo> hi all!
19:57 * daja77 watching news
19:58 < jhidalgo> &%*#, what is /dev/hda2 in devfs ? /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 right ?
19:59 < fake> jep
19:59 < jhidalgo> and I can put root=/dev/id.... blabla at boot prompt right! ?
20:00 * jhidalgo is thinking seariously to install rock!
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20:01 < Mike1> thiking won't make any differece ...
20:01 < Mike1> :)
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20:09 < jhidalgo> ok, I've a problem, I DON'T have devfs, and I wanted!!, I have my vmlinuz with support, but can pass the right param to the boot loader about the root device!, what can i do ?
20:10 < Mike1> RTFM
20:11 < fake> huh?
20:11 < jhidalgo> Mike1: men I did!, I dont know what can be failing!
20:11 < fake> what is the error you get?
20:11 < fake> and when
20:11 < Mike1> jhidalgo: is _devfsd_ installed on your system?
20:12 < Mike1> is good to see around.
20:12 < jhidalgo> yep
20:12 < Mike1> see u*
20:12 < Mike1> jhidalgo: mm... what system is it?
20:13 < jhidalgo> :~# devfsd /dev
20:13 < jhidalgo> Error getting protocol revision Inappropriate ioctl for devic
20:13 < jhidalgo> Linux web-dev2 2.4.18-bf2.4-xfs #1 Son Jul 14 09:40:39 CEST 2002 i686 unknown
20:13 < jhidalgo> Mike1 that's uname -a
20:13 < Mike1> jhidalgo: i know.
20:14 < Mike1> jhidalgo: what linux distribution is it?
20:14 < daja77> .oO Mike1 is angry today
20:14 < jhidalgo> Mike1 debian
20:14 < Mike1> daja77: nah, but i am .. hungry :)
20:14 < Mike1> jhidalgo: mm..
20:14 < Mike1> jhidalgo: woody?
20:14 < daja77> me too, will change that :)
20:14 < Mike1> daja77: good idea
20:15 < Mike1> be back in a while i got to eat.
20:15 < Mike1> jhidalgo: i will help you get it running when i get back.
20:15 < jhidalgo> ok!, tanxs!, how long ?
20:15 < ringo78> Mike is a fast eater ;-)
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20:18 < _NULL> hi _HulK_
20:18 < _HulK_> hi all
20:18 < _HulK_> i've stopped compiling rock
20:18 < _HulK_> will it continue after without problems?
20:19 < _HulK_> eo?
20:22 < ringo78> I think the doc said somethink like that.
20:22 < ringo78> ==> yes (unless you alter some thingies)
20:23 < _HulK_> no
20:24 < _HulK_> i will continue tomorrow
20:24 < _HulK_> cause it's been compiling since this morning
20:24 < _HulK_> :)
20:24 < ringo78> ok no probs there :-) What system ?
20:25 < jhidalgo> why: devfsd /dev give me: inappropriate ioctl for device
20:25 < _HulK_> XP 1800, 512 DDR 2700, SiS735
20:25 < _HulK_> HDD IBM 60 GB ATA 100 7200rpm
20:26 < ringo78> _HulK_: that wont be toooo long ;-) How far is it ?
20:26 < _HulK_> athlon i mena
20:26 < _HulK_> i mean
20:26 < _HulK_> :)
20:27 < _HulK_> i'm building all distro
20:27 < _HulK_> i've stopped compiling gnome2
20:28 < _HulK_> i think tomorrow will be done
20:28 < _HulK_> rock 1.7
20:28 < ringo78> hmm nice ;-)
20:28 < _HulK_> compiling with gcc 2.95
20:29 < _HulK_> i get a few errors i will see tomorrow in detail
20:29 < _HulK_> postfix
20:29 < _HulK_> for ex.
20:29 < ringo78> I got some err myself ;-) Its fun something to do and you have a better feeling when its fiksed.
20:30 < _HulK_> sure :)
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20:30 < ringo78> and you learn from  doing. Thats one of the things I like from rock.
20:31 < _HulK_> of course
20:33 < Mike1> re all
20:33 < Mike1> ah lunch was good :)
20:33 -!- o1k [~Ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux
20:34 < Mike1> ringo78: and yeah i am a fast eater.. how did you know?
20:36 < o1k> Just a hunch Btw good day to you !
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20:38 < A-Tui> hi
20:38 < _NULL> hi A-Tui
20:39 < o1k> Hi A-Tui
20:39 < A-Tui> hi _NULL, o1k!
20:39 < A-Tui> i'm on a conference about wireless
20:40 < o1k> are you also going wifi ?
20:40 < A-Tui> yes
20:40 < A-Tui> we give the conference :)
20:41 < _HulK_> i'm interested too
20:41 < A-Tui> now i'm connecting with an AP as a repeater
20:41 < _HulK_> i want to establish a link with a friend of mine 20km apart
20:41 < A-Tui> 20 km mmmm in the city?
20:42 < _HulK_> no
20:42 < _HulK_> de un pueblo a otro
20:42 < _HulK_> :)
20:42 < A-Tui> jaja
20:42 < A-Tui> ok
20:42 < A-Tui> de donde eres?
20:43 < o1k> Hmm nice ! I am radio amateur tell me more I used to play with Packet Radio.
20:43 < o1k> AX25
20:44 < A-Tui> AX25, i have never used it
20:44 < o1k> 20Km is good doable on 2Meter with an antenna on the roof.
20:45 < o1k> Its a protocol made to travel over radio communications think there is some stuff in the kernel.
20:45 < A-Tui> in city is more dificult
20:46 < A-Tui> i rea some about it when configuring kernel
20:47 < o1k> If you become a ham you can use the ax25 network its really fun and not so difficult. There are loads of repeaters at specially on 70cm (500Mhz)
20:47 < A-Tui> what is needed?
20:48 < o1k> A licence ;-) An exam taken by the autorities.
20:48 < A-Tui> ahhggg autorities!
20:48 < A-Tui> :)
20:48 < o1k> You need to know how transmitters and receivers work
20:48 < A-Tui> seems fun
20:49 < o1k> I allways found it fun playing with transistors coils xtals.
20:49 < A-Tui> i think i will investigate about it
20:50 < o1k> its nice.
20:52 < A-Tui> o1k: i must leave irc, tonigh became
20:52 < A-Tui> cu!
20:53 < o1k> A-Tui: CU
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21:07 < Freak> that would be GUX
21:07 < Freak> you freak.
21:08 < daja77> re
21:08 < Freak> wb daja77
21:08 < daja77> thx
21:08 < _NULL> hi Freak
21:10 < daja77> _NULL: how are you?
21:10 < _NULL> alive i fear. thx. and you?
21:10 < daja77> alive too :)
21:17 < Freak> hi owl
21:18 < daja77> lol
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21:20 < _NULL> daja77: ???
21:21 < daja77> _NULL: sorry it was just that funny, he was greeting after a long pause and using an old nick
21:22 < _NULL> not old nick... owl is my "normal" nick.
21:22 < daja77> so you are not normal now?
21:22 < Mike1> daja77: owl is the nick she use whn she is not horny.
21:22 < daja77> hehe
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21:24 < Mike1> oopps, i think she got pissed off :)
21:24 < daja77> hmm how the hell can she take us seriously
21:29 * daja77 should leave too before talking more nonsense...
21:29 < Mike1> daja77: comeone..
21:29 < daja77> you are right, I should continue talking nonsense :)
21:30 < Mike1> yeah :)
21:31 < daja77> have you found a victim for installing rock on?
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21:32 < _NULL> re
21:32 < daja77> re _NULL, what happened?
21:32 < _NULL> n.c.
21:32 < Mike1> Welcome back _NULL
21:33 < Mike1> _NULL: we missed you.
21:33 < _NULL> nobody miss/es/ed/will miss me
21:33 < daja77> _NULL: kick me if I talk nonsense ok?
21:33 < Mike1> _NULL: i do.
21:33 < daja77> me too
21:33 * Mike1 kicks daja77
21:33 < _NULL> nobody
21:33 * daja77 kicks back
21:34 * daja77 is not nobody
21:34 -!- Mike1 is now known as n0b0dy
21:34 < n0b0dy> of course i missed you
21:34 < _NULL> i don't believe you
21:34 < n0b0dy> Sandra Eule Dismar its the truth
21:35 < _NULL> :p
21:35 < daja77> nobody is lying to you :)
21:35 < _NULL> n.c.
21:35 < n0b0dy> daja77: don't help me!
21:35 -!- n0b0dy is now known as Mike1
21:35 < Mike1> _NULL: seriously owly we missed you
21:36 < Mike1> it was not our intention to offend you
21:36 < daja77> it has worked anyway :)
21:36 < Mike1> _NULL: and if you want to get pissed off at someone, do it at me, daja77 had nothing to do.
21:37 < daja77> Mike1: ??
21:37 < Mike1> daja77: i am the one that offended her, not you .
21:37 < daja77> ah ok :)
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22:07 < daja77> any good news today?
22:09 < Mike1> daja77: .. i have news but they are not good.
22:10 < daja77> I have enough bad news myself, thx
22:10 < Mike1> daja77: ok.
22:11 * Mike1 gives daja77, Freak's legendary bacardy breezer bottle.
22:11 < daja77> *yummie*
22:12 < Freak> daja77: dont yummie too much, its rather scratchy.
22:12 < daja77> maybe we should run a webserver just for announcing good news
22:12 < daja77> Freak: we'll see :)
22:12 < _NULL> *lol*
22:13 < daja77> _NULL: ?
22:13 < _NULL> daja77: "webserver just for announcing good news"
22:13 < daja77> it is easy delivering an empty page :)
22:13 < _NULL> full ack
22:13 < rolla> re
22:13 < Mike1> daja77: https://www.goodnews.com/ ?
22:14 < Mike1> welcome back rolla
22:14 < _NULL> rehi rolla
22:14 < daja77> Mike1: go for it :)
22:15 < Mike1> :P
22:15 < daja77> *argh* what has goodnews to do with isp
22:15 < Mike1> ok little crappy patch for lcdemu maintainer sent.
22:16 < Mike1> daja77: in one word... _nothing_
22:16 < daja77> Mike1: https://www.goodnews.net/
22:16 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux
22:16 < A-Tui> hi all
22:16 < daja77> hi A-Tui :)
22:16 < A-Tui> hola daja77 :)
22:17 < A-Tui> how are you?
22:17 < Mike1> daja77: yes i saw it.
22:17 < Mike1> greetings A-Tui
22:17 < daja77> A-Tui: pissed
22:17 < A-Tui> grettings Mike1
22:17 < A-Tui> daja77: why?
22:17 < daja77> too many bad news today
22:18 < A-Tui> ops sorry :(
22:18 < daja77> the last bad news was from Mike1
22:18 < A-Tui> what happens?
22:19 < daja77> the domain  https://www.goodnews.net/ belongs to an isp :(
22:19 < [n00kie]_> Uhm
22:19 < [n00kie]_> Should I wait for Rock Linux 2.0 iso
22:19 < A-Tui> ahms, do you want to register it?
22:19 < [n00kie]_> or should i install 1.6 pre 3?
22:20 * _NULL delivering bad mood and dark music to daja77 and Mike1, playing: theatre of tragedy - as the shadows dance
22:20 < A-Tui> [n00kie]_: i install 1.6 pre3 to start with ROCK
22:20 < daja77> A-Tui: I thought running a webserver that only hosts good news would be a nice try
22:20 < [n00kie]_> alright
22:20 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: build your own 1.7 isos.
22:20 < daja77> _NULL: I need mp3 or ogg
22:20 < [n00kie]_> there's no os on my machine
22:20 < A-Tui> good news only, that will be great!
22:21 < daja77> hehe yeah, but the domain is grabbed :(
22:21 < A-Tui> mmm try another cool name for it
22:21 < daja77> give me a hint
22:22 < _NULL> daja77: i'm not having bandwith "ueber" to upload the file
22:22 < daja77> _NULL: *damn*
22:22 < A-Tui> hi _NULL!
22:22 < [n00kie]_> _NULL over
22:22 < _NULL> [n00kie]_: over?
22:22 < [n00kie]_> ueber == over
22:22 < _NULL> ah so. thx
22:22 < [n00kie]_> If i understood you correctly ;)
22:23 < [n00kie]_> Uhm
22:23 < daja77> [n00kie]_: maybe not in this case
22:23 < [n00kie]_> Hmm
22:23 < [n00kie]_> Yes
22:23 < [n00kie]_> But ueber == over
22:23 < [n00kie]_> I think i means uebrig
22:23 < _NULL> whatever.
22:23 < daja77> [n00kie]_: depends on context
22:23 < Mike1> daja77: _NULL hates me.
22:24 < [n00kie]_> do the rock linux iso's have any installer?
22:24 < daja77> Mike1: it seems to me that you deserve it a bit
22:24 < Mike1> daja77: really?
22:24 < daja77> [n00kie]_: yes you :)
22:24 < daja77> Mike1: only a bit
22:24 < Mike1> great thanks.
22:24 < _NULL> Mike1: i didn't say it, did i?
22:24 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting")
22:24 < _NULL> urgs
22:24 < [n00kie]_> i never installed a source distribution
22:24 < [n00kie]_> just one time gentoo
22:24 < _NULL> daja77: that was not good
22:25 < [n00kie]_> but i think rock linux is much harder
22:25 < daja77> _NULL: ??
22:25 < _NULL> daja77: i guess Mike1 quit because of you
22:25 < daja77> _NULL: don't think so
22:25 < _NULL> daja77: why?
22:25 < daja77> [n00kie]_: there is an installer called stone
22:26 < [n00kie]_> ah
22:26 < [n00kie]_> https://www.rocklinux.de/pics/screenshot_config.jpg
22:26 < [n00kie]_> is this stone?
22:26 < daja77> [n00kie]_: wait a minute
22:26 < tfing> [n00kie]_: nope
22:26 < [n00kie]_> ah
22:26 < tfing> it's the build configuration
22:26 < [n00kie]_> hmm
22:26 < [n00kie]_> yes
22:26 < daja77> _NULL: dunno, he is a bit strange today
22:27 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
22:27 < daja77> wb Mike1, what happened?
22:27 < Mike1> thx, nothing.
22:27 < [n00kie]_> should i maybe use knoppix or another distribution, to build up the sources for rock?
22:28 < daja77> _NULL thought I had pissed you off
22:28 < daja77> [n00kie]_: rock will not build on knoppix
22:28 < [n00kie]_> hmm
22:28 < [n00kie]_> oh
22:28 < [n00kie]_> i don't wanna install a 2nd distribution for rock
22:28 < [n00kie]_> is there any other way
22:29 < [n00kie]_> with probably live install cds?
22:29 < daja77> [n00kie]_: what distro you have?
22:29 < [n00kie]_> On my testmachine, there's no oss
22:29 < Mike1> ftp://iso.rocklinux.de ...
22:29 < [n00kie]_> -s
22:29 < A-Tui> try to build in another machine
22:30 < daja77> grab one of rxr's new isos
22:30 < [n00kie]_> hmm
22:30 < [n00kie]_> ok
22:30 < Mike1> A-Tui: have you been able to build your own rock btw?
22:30 < [n00kie]_> should i now take the 1.6 pre 3
22:30 < [n00kie]_> or rxr's 2.0 isos?
22:30 < A-Tui> yes, but 1.6pre3
22:30 < daja77> _NULL: you see it was not my fault :)
22:30 < A-Tui> i must build 1.7
22:31 < _NULL> daja77: hm
22:31 < Mike1> actually it was..
22:31 < A-Tui> this friday i have holydays, i will have 2 weeks to paly with ROCL
22:31 * Mike1 afk
22:31 < A-Tui> s/paly/play
22:31 < [n00kie]_> Okay
22:31 * daja77 is preparing the baseball bat to give Mike1 a real headache
22:32 < [n00kie]_> Where can I find 1.6 pre3 iso?
22:32 < [n00kie]_> from rxr
22:32 < Mike1> daja77: sure go ahead.
22:32 < Mike1> do it!
22:32 < daja77> Mike1: you playing weird games today
22:33 < Mike1> i am not in the mood to play games today.
22:33 < daja77> [n00kie]_: go for https://www.rocklinux.de/mailing-list/rock-linux/2003-3/581.html
22:33 < daja77> grab a 2.0 version from one of the urls
22:33 < Mike1> daja77: look: <_NULL> Mike1 - i hate you!
22:34 < daja77> *urgs* what have you done?
22:34 < Mike1> born.
22:34 < _NULL> Mike1: I DIDN'T SAY THAT!!!!!!
22:34 < _NULL> daja77: 22:33 <_NULL> Mike1 - i don't hate you!
22:35 * daja77 has not one of these messages
22:36 < Mike1> no need to hide your feelings ..
22:36 < Mike1> even i hate me.
22:36 < daja77> Mike1: do me a favour, get some fresh air and *relax*
22:36 < _NULL> Mike1: *grrrrrrrrrr* but i don't hate you
22:37 < Mike1> daja77: ok,
22:37 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting")
22:37 < daja77> hth
22:37 < [n00kie]_> So
22:37 < [n00kie]_> what files do I need?
22:37 < [n00kie]_> cd1 from d rock stable?
22:38 < daja77> [n00kie]_: have you got my message?
22:38 < [n00kie]_> hmm
22:38 < [n00kie]_> okay
22:38 < [n00kie]_> unstable
22:38 < [n00kie]_> uhm
22:39 < daja77> _NULL: this time it is definitely my fault
22:39 < _NULL> daja77: yes
22:39 < [n00kie]_> I'll be stay here now stupid
22:39 < daja77> [n00kie]_: if you want to build 1.7 you need a 1.7/2.0 system for this, ok?
22:39 < [n00kie]_> But are there any scripts to configure the network or something else?
22:40 < _NULL> daja77: a 1.7?
22:40 * _NULL builds with 1.6-pre3...
22:40 < _NULL> == 22:37:48 =[7]=> Building base/perl5 [5.8.0 1.7-snapshot].
22:40 < daja77> _NULL: maybe, but he is a newbie
22:40 < _NULL> daja77: oh. k.
22:42 < A-Tui> [n00kie]_: where are you install from?
22:42 < [n00kie]_> cd
22:42 < A-Tui> ok
22:43 < [n00kie]_> https://www.rocklinux.de/people/rene/drock/mac_os_x_shell.png <- Is this stone?
22:43 < [n00kie]_> i mean, not the graphical
22:43 < [n00kie]_> just the installer
22:44 < daja77> [n00kie]_: no, but don't care just start it, it will be fine
22:44 < [n00kie]_> hmm
22:44 < [n00kie]_> i will install it on a free harddisk :P
22:44 < A-Tui> mike1 went out?
22:44 < daja77> A-Tui: yes
22:44 < A-Tui> ops ok
22:45 < [n00kie]_> daja77: Do I need both cd's from 2.0 alpha?
22:45 < daja77> [n00kie]_: yes
22:45 < [n00kie]_> ok
22:46 < [n00kie]_> drock technology or drock alpha?
22:47 < [n00kie]_> sorry, if I ask stupid questions
22:47 < [n00kie]_> But I have a traffic flat, and i won't download the wrong cd's
22:47 < daja77> [n00kie]_: technology
22:47 < [n00kie]_> ok
22:48 < [n00kie]_> hmm
22:48 < [n00kie]_> technology seems to be older than the alpha
22:48 < [n00kie]_> is this right?
22:48 < daja77> it is right, if you want the newest, use alpha
22:49 < [n00kie]_> i want the easier
22:49 < A-Tui> :)
22:49 < [n00kie]_> whats easier?
22:49 < [n00kie]_> alpha or technology?
22:49 < daja77> [n00kie]_: can't tell what is easier
22:49 < [n00kie]_> the installer looks like very nice
22:49 < [n00kie]_> like in gentoo
22:49 < [n00kie]_> but i never used rock
22:49 < [n00kie]_> so i'm a bit "angst"/scared
22:50 < daja77> [n00kie]_: don't be scared, everybody make mistakes :)
22:50 < A-Tui> [n00kie]_: i'm newbie in ROCK too
22:50 < [n00kie]_> hmm
22:50 < [n00kie]_> ok
22:50 < [n00kie]_> then i will download the both cd's from technology
22:50 < [n00kie]_> right?
22:51 < daja77> make it so
22:51 < [n00kie]_> Cool A-Tui, maybe in soon times, we can help each other :)
22:51 < A-Tui> yes :)
22:52 < [n00kie]_> I am downloading it know
22:52 < [n00kie]_> hope that it is the right one
22:52 < daja77> [n00kie]_: have fun and don't worry
22:52 < A-Tui> i have stone my laptop just 2 weeks ago
22:52 < [n00kie]_> thank you :)
22:53 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
22:53 < _NULL> wb Mike1
22:53 < daja77> re Mike1
22:54 * Mike1 has taken fresh air and relaxed.
22:54 < daja77> good, feel better now?
22:54 < A-Tui> Mike1: i need you send me a mail with all the docs i send you to know what news docs i have
22:54 < [n00kie]_> you guys are more helpfuller then the debian users
22:54 < daja77> [n00kie]_: hehe of course :)
22:55 < [n00kie]_> :-)
22:55 < Mike1> A-Tui: just see the rock-1.7 src
22:55 < [n00kie]_> 8hours left
22:55 < Mike1> they are under Documentation/i18n/Spanish/
22:55 < [n00kie]_> tommorow i will try to install it :-)
22:55 < A-Tui> ok, are all docs?
22:56 < Mike1> A-Tui: i have not included patches and dietlibc thats all
22:56 < A-Tui> ok
22:56 < Mike1> mom:
22:56 < Mike1> BUILD-CLUSTER.es  BUILD-CROSS.es  BUILD.es  CVS  HACKING-HOWTO.es  README.es
22:57 < Mike1> add there PATCHES.es and BUILD-DIETLIBC-TARGET.es
22:57 < Mike1> why are going to be included later today.
22:57 < Mike1> daja77: yeah i am ok.
22:57 < A-Tui> ok
22:57 < daja77> :)
22:57 < Mike1> A-Tui: is the mail necessary?
22:57 < A-Tui> nope
22:57 < A-Tui> :)
22:57 < Mike1> k :)
22:58 < A-Tui> how is 'semana santa' in english?
22:58 < Mike1> A-Tui: Holly Week :)
22:58 < A-Tui> jeje
22:59 < A-Tui> but, the holyday, no the literal traduction :)
22:59 < Mike1> A-Tui: holy != holly
22:59 < daja77> A-Tui: easter perhaps
22:59 < Mike1> daja77: da :)
22:59 < A-Tui> easter! tnx daja77
23:00 < daja77> Mike1: hehe, the power of guessing :)
23:00 < Mike1> wget ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.5/linux-2.5.67.tar.bz2
23:01 < Mike1> arrg wrong window sorry.
23:01 < A-Tui> ops holly, i don't know that word
23:01 < A-Tui> it's a tree
23:02 * Mike1 kernel bug hunting..
23:02 < daja77> weidmanns heil
23:04 < [n00kie]_> what's the main filesystem of rock linux?
23:05 < rolla> :)
23:05 < daja77> [n00kie]_: devfs, scnr
23:05 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: devfs, + ext*/reiserfs/xfs/jfs
23:05 < [n00kie]_> so
23:05 < [n00kie]_> what filesystem should i use?
23:05 < [n00kie]_> devfs?
23:05 < Mike1> ext3
23:06 < [n00kie]_> alright
23:06 < [n00kie]_> thank you
23:06 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: will be by default on the kernel when installing rock
23:06 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: devfswill be...
23:06 < [n00kie]_> hmm
23:06 < [n00kie]_> okay
23:06 < [n00kie]_> i never used devfs
23:06 < Mike1> damn i need cofee.
23:06 < [n00kie]_> just ext*, reiser and xfs
23:06 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: you will love it
23:06 < [n00kie]_> what time do you have?
23:07 < [n00kie]_> why?
23:07 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: so many days no sleeping properly
23:07 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: devfs is very nice, don't ask just wait and you will see it by yourself
23:08 < [n00kie]_> ok
23:09 < Mike1> :)
23:10 * Mike1 calling his asistant to bring him coffee...
23:10 < Mike1> i'm kinda loving this...
23:10 < daja77> hehe, having fun at work, nice
23:12 < [n00kie]_> i can
23:12 < [n00kie]_> 't wait for tomorow :)
23:12 < Mike1> [n00kie]_: why is that?
23:12 < [n00kie]_> there i'm gonna install rock :)
23:13 < Mike1> Good.
23:20 * Mike1 needs yet another workspace...
23:21 < daja77> Mike1: why?
23:21 < Mike1> 12 are not enough for my terminals...
23:21 < daja77> :)
23:22 < Mike1> so i have 2 options, reduce tasks, or make more workspaces
23:22 < Mike1> 2 more will allow me to have 12 more terminals to work on.. yeah that will work :)
23:22 < daja77> Mike1: use virtual terminals
23:23 * Mike1 uses xterm and Eterm..
23:27 -!- _HulK_ [~hulk@80.103.153.207] has joined #rocklinux
23:30 < daja77> hi _HulK_
23:31 < _HulK_> hi all
23:37 < A-Tui> hi _HulK_
23:38 < daja77> A-Tui: any proposal for a good domain name?
23:38 < _NULL> daja77: domain-name?
23:38 < daja77> for the good news server :)
23:39 < Mike1> goodnewsserver.com ...
23:39 < _NULL> better-world-online.net
23:39 < A-Tui> daja77: mmmm
23:39 < _HulK_> good news server?
23:40 < _HulK_> which kind of news?
23:40 < Mike1> bushisdead.net ?
23:40 < daja77> _HulK_: a project I invented today, a webserver that only hosts good news
23:40 < A-Tui> good news
23:40 < A-Tui> :)
23:40 < _NULL> _HulK_: yep. a server which contains a blank page (cuz there are no good news in this world) ... :p
23:40 < _HulK_> _NULL: sure
23:41 < _HulK_> finally americans get into baghdad
23:41 < A-Tui> ops yes
23:41 < daja77> better-world.net and goodnewsserver.net are both free, we should vote
23:41 < A-Tui> was pathetic the flag on the saddam's head
23:41 < _HulK_> i think the future in this region isn't clear
23:42 < _HulK_> americans opened the pandora box
23:42 * daja77 is waiting for the americans taking afghanistan *har har har*
23:43 * _HulK_ ROCK the world
23:44 < _NULL> destroy the world
23:44 < _NULL> and first: the human race
23:44 < daja77> _NULL: it was heal the world afaik
23:44 < _HulK_> save us first :)
23:44 < _NULL> nah. not saving. destroying ;p
23:45 < _HulK_> who will enjoy compiling rocklinux then?
23:45 < daja77> _HulK_: beware _NULL wants to die
23:45 < daja77> martians
23:45 < _HulK_> which manner?
23:45 < daja77> _HulK_: ??
23:45 < A-Tui> daja77: postivenews?
23:45 < _HulK_> which manner wants _NULL to die?
23:45 < daja77> _HulK_: any
23:46 < _NULL> but keep one person alive - which puts the the "red bullet", which will make some nuclear bombs exploding :p
23:46 < A-Tui> who wants die?
23:46 < daja77> the person formerly known as owl
23:46 < _NULL> *raises hand*
23:46 < _HulK_> "all those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain..." Blade Runner.
23:46 < A-Tui> :)
23:47 < _NULL> _HulK_: ?
23:47 < daja77> hey https://positivenews.net/
23:47 < _HulK_> well, after this profetic phrases
23:48 < _NULL> *vbeg*
23:48 < _HulK_> what about talking ....
23:48 < _HulK_> rock, for example?
23:48 < A-Tui> daja77: a love 'positive' word :)
23:48 < A-Tui> s/a/i
23:48 * daja77 hates it to come too late with a good idea
23:48 < A-Tui> XD
23:49 < _HulK_> it will be better compile a base rock-1.7 then compile everything within it?
23:49 < A-Tui> positive noise :)
23:49 < daja77> https://www.positivenews.org.uk/mainframeset.html
23:49 < _HulK_> hehehe
23:49 < _NULL> www.dotcomtod.de << positive news... *vbeg*
23:50 < daja77> hehe, yeah
23:50 < _HulK_> what the hell!
23:50 < daja77> The Good Shopping Guide *roflÜ
23:51 < _HulK_> " a family newspaper"
23:51 < daja77> Most of us know that when we buy an eco-washing-up liquid we help reduce pollution, but who on earth knows which freezer to buy; what TV manufacturer is the most ethical; what brand of yoghurt is kindest to animals; which consumer goods companies are involved in the arms trade? Now you can easily find out.
23:51 < _HulK_> lol
23:51 < daja77> wimps they are  >:->
23:51 < A-Tui> they have all the answers?
23:52 < daja77> The Good Shopping Guide, published by the Ethical Marketing Group *argh*
23:53 < daja77> A-Tui: ok, it seems positive news was not so good
23:53 < A-Tui> yeah, i saw
23:54 < A-Tui> perhaps some SxHx group give us a hint
23:54 < daja77> huh?
23:54 < A-Tui> they have very positive names :)
23:54 < daja77> O_o
23:56 < A-Tui> Site will content News for a New World?
23:56 < daja77> hmm tell me more
23:56 < A-Tui> it's a question, not a name :)
23:57 < daja77> why not
23:57 < A-Tui> mmmm it could be
23:57 < A-Tui> NNW.net
23:58 < daja77> look where your browser take you :)
23:58 < A-Tui> jejej yes
23:59 < A-Tui> bash-2.05b$ host nnw.net
23:59 < A-Tui> nnw.net has address 216.65.41.131
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