--- Log opened Fri Apr 11 00:00:26 2003 --- Day changed Fri Apr 11 2003 00:01 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, tfing, tibit, [n00kie], huebi, netrunner_, geshme__, _NULL, Mike1, kasc, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 00:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rolla, tibit 00:01 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: geshme__, tfing, [n00kie], netrunner_, kasc, Mike1, _NULL, vectrax, aszlig, huebi (+2 more) 00:01 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@212.152.174.162] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F3A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 < [n00kie]> anyone alive? 00:02 * jhidalgo is alive! :> 00:02 < Mike1> ik 00:02 * daja77 is alive 00:02 -!- geshme__ [~bando@pool157-tch-2.Sofia.0rbitel.net] has quit (No route to host) 00:02 < [n00kie]> ah :) 00:02 < Mike1> geshme__ is not alive :) 00:02 < [n00kie]> oh man 00:02 < [n00kie]> i'm hungry :) 00:03 < daja77> eat! 00:03 < [n00kie]> i can't 00:03 < [n00kie]> we have nothing to eat under bridge 00:03 < [n00kie]> you know 00:03 < [n00kie]> just rats 00:03 < daja77> why, no foood in austria? 00:03 < [n00kie]> and death birds 00:03 < daja77> kill a rat 00:03 < [n00kie]> lol 00:23 -!- kaerF [freak@p508B1FC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 00:28 < jhidalgo> diay no se, yo duro como 15 mins llegando! 00:28 < Mike1> lol wrong window 00:28 < jhidalgo> y ya tengo hambre! jeje 00:28 < jhidalgo> ups, sorry people! 00:29 < daja77> wanna read a little poem in the evening? 00:30 < Mike1> daja77: did you wrote it? 00:30 < daja77> nope, a guy wrote in another chan, it is funny 00:32 < Mike1> show it to us 00:33 < daja77> father heard his children scream 00:33 < daja77> so he threw them in the stream 00:33 < daja77> saying as he drowned the third 00:33 < daja77> "children should be *seen* - not heard" 00:34 < Mike1> hehe 00:38 * jhidalgo gone for a smoke! 00:38 < daja77> jhidalgo is burning .oO 00:42 * Mike1 wonders why _NULL is so quite today... 00:43 < daja77> cos she is away? 00:43 * Mike1 misses _NULL 00:52 * jhidalgo gone early from work! 00:52 -!- jhidalgo [~jose@196.40.45.146] has quit ("BitchX: the new hardcore, psycho, nitro client -- in a can") 00:52 * Mike1 gone too 00:53 * daja77 will go now to bed, bye all 00:56 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-077-079.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:23 -!- _HulK_ [~hulk@80.103.119.178] has joined #rocklinux 01:23 < _HulK_> hi all 01:24 < _HulK_> anyone has dial up connection? 01:33 -!- _HulK_ [~hulk@80.103.119.178] has quit () 01:45 -!- mauricio [~mauricio@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 01:46 < mauricio> hi! 01:48 < mauricio> i am looking for a database managemet system with support for stored procedures and sub-queries, any clue on it? 01:59 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 02:07 -!- mauricio [~mauricio@196.40.45.146] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 02:11 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p50909693.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:22 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A3AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:02 -!- miguel [~miguel@geo.fisapl.uv.es] has joined #rocklinux 03:02 < miguel> hi there 03:03 < miguel> anyone is up? 03:04 -!- miguel is now known as _HulK_ 03:04 < _HulK_> he 03:07 -!- _HulK_ [~miguel@geo.fisapl.uv.es] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 03:14 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Parabull, blindcoder 03:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder, Parabull 03:41 -!- [n00kie]_ [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:41 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:51 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AB2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:51 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AB2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:00 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802B5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:09 -!- [n00kie]_ [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:26 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:26 < [n00kie]> Hello! 09:31 < _NULL> hi 10:34 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-117.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:34 < rxr> re 10:34 < _NULL> hi rxr 10:35 < esden> hi all 10:35 < _NULL> hi esden 10:42 < rxr> hi esden 11:03 < [n00kie]> Hello rxr! 11:04 -!- rxr [~rxr@port-212-202-173-117.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("leaving") 11:05 < esden> hi [n00kie] 11:05 < [n00kie]> hi esden 11:08 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:18 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 12:18 < [n00kie]> Hi Guys! 12:18 < _NULL> hi [n00kie] 12:18 < [n00kie]> hi _NULL 12:19 < [n00kie]> i need some help with rock linux 2.0 alpha 12:19 < [n00kie]> i installed it successfully 12:19 < [n00kie]> but grub does not start 12:19 < [n00kie]> so 12:19 < [n00kie]> how can i boot rock ? 13:09 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:37 -!- netrunner_ [~netrunner@p50802243.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:56 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:44 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-076-207.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:44 < _NULL> hi daja77 14:44 < daja77> hi _NULL 14:49 < kasc_> moin 14:49 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 14:49 < daja77> hi kasc :) 14:49 < _NULL> hi kasc 15:15 * kasc hates mutt 15:15 < _NULL> why? 15:15 < kasc> doesnt sent any mails. It just eats them 15:16 < _NULL> great. /me whishes to be an e-mail which is eaten by mutt 15:16 < Ge0rG> mutt is a MUA, not a MTA. thats why it uses sendmail to send mail. 15:17 < kasc> Ge0rG: i'd like it to send mails with sendmail but it doesnt 15:18 < Ge0rG> sendmail logs to syslog when it is started - do you get any output there? 15:18 < kasc> usually yes. everything works fine with pine, but with mutt i dont even get any output from postfix... 15:20 < Ge0rG> maybe you have to :set sendmail to a postfix appropriate value? 15:21 * tfing has nothing configured for outgoing mail in his .muttrc 15:22 < kasc> postfix installs /usr/sbin/sendmail to enable programs to send mail 15:22 < Ge0rG> on my machine I have sendmail="/usr/bin/sendmail -oem -oi" (but I'm using "real" sendmail too) 15:25 < daja77> bye bye I'm off now 15:26 < _NULL> bye daja77 15:26 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-076-207.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 15:43 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:12 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-160-215.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:34 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-160-215.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("das waer mit DSL nicht passiert") 16:49 -!- george [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:07 < rolla> re 17:33 < esden> hi rolla 17:34 < esden> hi all 17:40 < esden> and cu all 18:05 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-162-175.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:07 < capchaos> Hmm would there be any problem (with the linker) if I upgrade from glibc 2.3.1 to 2.3.2 ? 18:07 < tfing> nope 18:07 < tfing> i did it yesterday ;) 18:07 < capchaos> no unresolved links in the binaries? 18:07 < tfing> i had no pb yet 18:07 < capchaos> ok, thanks :) 18:07 < tfing> except to put back some lib reps in the /etc/ld.so.conf 18:08 < tfing> at least it worked for me, but your mileage may vary eh 18:10 < capchaos> lib reps? 18:10 < tfing> lib directories 18:10 < capchaos> How would it look like? 18:10 < tfing> it's just a /usr/local/e17/lib that i had added 18:11 < capchaos> ok 18:11 < capchaos> Ah, I got it :) 18:11 * capchaos says good morning to himself 18:12 < tfing> :) 18:18 < capchaos> By default glibc doesn't change /etc/ld.so.conf.. at least not when I compiled it last time 18:18 < capchaos> iirc 18:19 < tfing> well, i had a bit screwed up my system 18:19 < tfing> when i upgraded from 2.2.5 to 2.3.1 18:20 < tfing> i couldn't do a ./scripts/Build-Pkg -update 18:20 < capchaos> I didn't compile it with ROCK 18:20 < capchaos> Didn't it work? 18:21 < tfing> hmm ? 18:22 < capchaos> ./scripts/Build-Pkg -update 18:22 < tfing> how do you want to compile it ? 18:23 < capchaos> from scratch 18:23 < capchaos> at least now 18:23 * capchaos haven't got any ROCK installed 18:23 < tfing> oh 18:23 < tfing> well, there shouldn't be a problem either 18:33 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has quit ("Lost terminal") 18:33 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux 18:34 < capchaos> re tfing 18:34 < tfing> re 18:40 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dialin-145-254-162-175.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("changing fscking expensive providers") 18:41 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@B67b8.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:56 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:56 < [n00kie]> Hello! 18:56 < [n00kie]> I got Rock work! 18:56 < [n00kie]> :) 18:57 < [n00kie]> The problem was the ntfs filessystem und HDA1! 18:57 < [n00kie]> So i couldn't write grub/lilo into mbr! 18:57 < capchaos> great 18:58 < [n00kie]> :-)) 18:58 < [n00kie]> But my partition table got destroyed 18:58 < [n00kie]> lol 18:59 < [n00kie]> but now i am happy 18:59 < capchaos> enjoy it 19:01 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("[gF]iRC v.o.7.9-1 - mIRC6.o3") 19:13 < _NULL> re 19:16 < capchaos> Welcome back, owly! 19:17 < _NULL> thx, cap :) 19:25 -!- marcio [~marcio@200.101.199.10] has joined #rocklinux 19:25 < _NULL> hi marcio 19:26 < marcio> supz 19:29 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:30 < [n00kie]> hi 19:30 < marcio> re 19:30 < [n00kie]> hi marcio 19:43 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@B67b8.pppool.de] has quit ("Kill all extreme people!") 19:46 -!- marcio [~marcio@200.101.199.10] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 20:30 -!- Konrat [~chatzilla@dial81-135-37-56.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:30 < Konrat> is there anibody out there? 20:30 < _NULL> hi Konrat 20:31 < Konrat> Hy Null 20:31 < [n00kie]> Hi Konrat 20:31 < Konrat> I would like to speak with Nikolaus .... 20:32 < Konrat> do you know his nick? 20:35 < Konrat> Hi n00kie 20:35 < Konrat> well, I would like to build Rock Linux under Mandrake 9.1 20:35 < Konrat> but since this is my first attempt in building it 20:35 < Konrat> I am afraid of "damaging" the previous installation ... 20:35 < Konrat> I read the guide, but I did not understand it well ... 20:35 < Konrat> how does it work, to build under another ditribution, but using the compiler of Rock linux? 20:36 < _NULL> Konrat: version? 1.7? 20:36 < Konrat> well, I would like to build 2.0 alpha .... 20:37 < Konrat> I work practically on the backbone, so I can download the one I prefer ... 20:37 < Konrat> (I downloaded 1.6, and then i discovered it was unmantained!) 20:37 < _NULL> *cough cough* 20:37 < _NULL> (not really unmaintained, but... /* no comment */) 20:38 < Konrat> well, it is not a problem really ... 20:38 < _NULL> normally you need devfs support in your kernel, devfsd... 20:38 < Konrat> got it ... I am working on 2.4.21 ... 20:39 < Konrat> (the kernel, I mean) 20:39 < _NULL> and you want to compile for the alpha-architecture? 20:40 < Konrat> why the alpha??? no it is pentium III .... 20:40 < _NULL> 20:36 < Konrat> well, I would like to build 2.0 alpha .... << because of this ;) 20:40 < _NULL> ok... then i can help you 20:40 < Konrat> :-D ... no I meant version 2.0.0-Alpha .... 20:41 < Konrat> which I think it is at the end of the day the last version of 1.7 ... 20:42 < Konrat> is it right? 20:43 < _NULL> aehm.. 20:43 < _NULL> dunno. sorry... 20:43 * _NULL uses CVS 20:43 < [n00kie]> Konrat 20:43 < Konrat> perfect ... 20:43 < [n00kie]> Building Alpha makes no sense 20:43 < Konrat> iwhy??? 20:43 < [n00kie]> 2.0.0 alpha uses 1.7 binary files 20:44 < _NULL> did you alreay download the packages? 20:44 < Konrat> interesting ... well, in any case I can use CVS ... 20:44 < [n00kie]> i use 2.0.0 alpha too 20:44 < Konrat> not yet, I was trying to understand how it works ... 20:44 < Konrat> because of what happened when i downloaded all the 1.6 packages ah, ah! 20:44 < _NULL> hehe. sorry for that... 20:45 < Konrat> no problem ... :-) 20:46 < Konrat> so, we were at the stage where my kernel has to have devfsd ... 20:46 < Konrat> and then? 20:46 < [n00kie]> okay 20:46 < [n00kie]> i will reinstall rock now :) 20:46 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:47 < _NULL> then you create a dir where you will build rock - let's call it 'rock-linux' 20:47 < n00kie> hi 20:47 < _NULL> get the sources 20:47 < _NULL> which will be located at 'rock-src-1.7' (normally) 20:47 < Konrat> yes 20:47 < Konrat> under /rock-linux/rock-src-1.7 20:48 < _NULL> after that change into 'rock-src-1.7' and run './scripts/Create-Links /path/to/rock-linux' 20:48 < Konrat> ok ... 20:49 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:49 < _NULL> aeh... where do you want to create the 'rock-linux' directory? 20:49 < n00kie> i have a question 20:49 < n00kie> when i install rock linux 20:50 < Konrat> I use a diectory called /rock-linux under a partition separate by the / partition ... 20:50 < n00kie> should i use logical or primary partitions? 20:50 < Konrat> it is the same partition where I have /home 20:50 < Konrat> which is around 2Gb 20:50 < _NULL> change into the 'rock-linux' directory, and run './scripts/Download -parameter' there. 20:50 < Konrat> and practically empty ... 20:51 < Konrat> I do that AFTER downloading the sources ... 20:51 < _NULL> (usually './scripts/Download -required' 20:51 < Konrat> and AFTER ./scripts/Create-Links '/path/to/rock-linux' 20:51 < Konrat> ?? 20:51 < n00kie> _NULL: Should I use primary or logical partitions? 20:51 < _NULL> n00kie: aeh. that's your choice 20:52 < n00kie> aehm 20:52 < n00kie> i dont know the difference between them 20:52 < n00kie> on hda1 it is so: 20:52 < n00kie> hda1: primary, fat32 20:52 < n00kie> hda5: logical, fat32 20:52 < n00kie> so 20:52 < n00kie> what partitions should i make? 20:52 < n00kie> logical or primary 20:52 < _NULL> wuah. windows... 20:53 < n00kie> yes 20:53 < Konrat> n00kie: where is your linux installation? 20:53 < Konrat> in hda5? 20:53 < _NULL> which of the partiotions would you like to remove? 20:53 < n00kie> Konrat: No, there are files 20:53 < Konrat> how is it possible on a fat 32? 20:53 < n00kie> _Null: I have 42gb free 20:53 < _NULL> n00kie: then, create a logical partiton... 20:54 < n00kie> ok 20:54 < n00kie> what is the difference between logical and primary partitions? 20:54 < Konrat> NULL: I run './scripts/Download -parameter'. After that? 20:54 < _NULL> you will get the files 20:55 < _NULL> ... and wait and have some cups of coffee ... 20:55 < Konrat> why not './scripts/Download -required' ? 20:56 < _NULL> after that './scripts/Config' or if you don't want to use the default-config-file, use './scripts/Config -cvg whateverconfigname' 20:56 < _NULL> Konrat: i meant with '-parameter' that you can choose the parameter(s) you need/want, here 20:57 < Konrat> OK. So the sequence is './scripts/Config' and then './scripts/Download -required' ... 20:57 < _NULL> yes... or so... 20:57 < Konrat> and I download all the files under '/rock-linux/rock-src-1.7' 20:58 < Konrat> then I run './scripts/Create-Links /rock-linux' 20:58 < Konrat> ? 20:58 < _NULL> no! 20:58 < _NULL> you run: 20:58 < _NULL> cd /rock-linux 20:58 < _NULL> mkdir rock-linux 20:59 < _NULL> if you want to store the rock-linux folder in rock-linux 20:59 < _NULL> ok? 20:59 < _NULL> and - after that you use: 20:59 < Konrat> yes, of course. I was thinking of having only one leave of the tree, starting from scratch ... 21:00 < _NULL> 'cd /rock-linux/rock-src-1.7' './scripts/Create-Links /rock-linux/rock-linux' 21:00 < Konrat> perfect! 21:01 < _NULL> after that in '/rock-linux/rock-linux' you will need to run './scripts/Config' (with/without paramters) 21:02 < Konrat> ok! 21:02 < _NULL> well 21:03 < n00kie> Can I build 1.7 on drock 2.0 alpha? 21:04 < Konrat> after that I run './scripts/Download -required' 21:04 < Konrat> or './scripts/Download -all' 21:04 < Konrat> or whatever I want! :-) 21:04 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@Ba988.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 < _NULL> n00kie: which 'alpha' do you mean? *confused* 21:05 < _NULL> alpha-version or alpha-architecture? 21:05 < n00kie> alpha version 21:05 < _NULL> ah. k. then - yes. should work 21:05 < n00kie> ah 21:05 < n00kie> thx 21:06 < n00kie> <- installing drock 2.0 alpha full :) 21:06 < _NULL> you're welcome 21:06 < _NULL> n00kie: hehe. have fun 21:06 < n00kie> but i forgot to deselect the servers 21:06 < Konrat> at the build stage, which compiler is going to be used? the compiler of the version which is behind (Mandrake 9.1) or the compiler I downloaded? 21:06 < n00kie> could i deinstall them afterwards? 21:07 < capchaos> Mandrake¿ 21:07 < capchaos> Konrat, there are different stages 21:08 < n00kie> _NULL: Can I deinstall the servers after the setup of rock? 21:08 < n00kie> i don't want to use samba, apache, ... 21:08 < _NULL> aeh... you need to build rock, a gcc-3.2.whatever - then it will build the first stages (don't ask me until which stage) and after this, it will afaik chroot into the rock-directory and use the gcc-3.2.2 which was build by rock 21:08 < _NULL> n00kie: aehm. i guess mine should be your friend 21:08 < n00kie> ah 21:08 < n00kie> ok 21:08 < n00kie> ty 21:09 < Konrat> ok ... 21:09 < capchaos> Konrat, you'll need a host compiler to bootstrap first (e.g. in your Mandrake). At the end all programs will be compiled with ROCK's own gcc 21:09 < Konrat> ok .. 21:10 < Konrat> when I arrive at the stage of compiling the kernel .. 21:10 < Konrat> oooops ... my wife is calling! see you soon ... are you always here more or less at this time of noght? 21:11 < Konrat> (night) 21:11 < capchaos> see ya Konrat 21:11 < _NULL> yes... 21:11 < n00kie> yesd Konrat :-) 21:11 < _NULL> bye Konrat 21:11 < n00kie> have fun 21:11 < Konrat> see ya .... and thank for help ... 21:11 < _NULL> no problem. bye 21:13 -!- Konrat [~chatzilla@dial81-135-37-56.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:35 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FC84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 < capchaos> hi blindy 21:48 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F3A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:54 < n00kie> i am on my rock linux setup 21:54 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:54 < n00kie> it asks me after my "host ip adress" 21:54 < A-Tui> hi all 21:54 < n00kie> is the host ip adress my default lan ip adress? 21:54 < _NULL> hi A-Tui 21:54 < n00kie> hi A-Tui 21:54 < _NULL> n00kie: yes 21:54 < A-Tui> hi _NULL, n00kie! 21:55 < n00kie> ok _Null 21:55 < n00kie> There is 21:55 < n00kie> i mean 21:55 < n00kie> my default ip adress is 192.168.0.4 21:55 < _NULL> yes? 21:55 < n00kie> but there "steht" 192.168.0.10/24 21:55 < n00kie> is this ok? 21:55 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 21:55 < _NULL> aeh.... 21:56 < capchaos> hi demian! 21:56 < demian> hi 21:56 < demian> capchaos!! 21:56 < n00kie> hello demian 21:56 < capchaos> :) 21:56 < demian> the n00kie 21:56 < _NULL> i guess you should maybe change it to 192.168.0.4/24 ? 21:56 < n00kie> :) 21:56 < _NULL> hi demian 21:56 < n00kie> ah 21:56 < n00kie> ok 21:56 < n00kie> thank you _NULL 21:56 < A-Tui> hola demian 21:56 < demian> owl ! 21:56 < demian> A-Tui! 21:56 < demian> hola A-Tui 21:56 < A-Tui> how are you? 21:56 < _NULL> n00kie: "angaben ohne gewaehr" 21:57 < demian> bien, gracias 21:57 < A-Tui> me alegro :) 21:57 < n00kie> hehehe _NULL :) 21:57 < demian> y vos ? 21:57 < A-Tui> bien, hoy cogi vacaciones, asi que muy alegre :) 21:58 < demian> i ll be on holydays until next wednesday :( 21:58 < A-Tui> ops 21:58 < A-Tui> i have almost 2 weeks 21:58 < n00kie> i have another question 21:58 < demian> nice 21:59 < n00kie> i am on configuring grub 21:59 < A-Tui> yes, that's great 21:59 < n00kie> i have windows 2000 on a fat32 partition on hda1 21:59 < n00kie> what entry must i give, to choose it on grub? 22:00 < demian> other=/dev/discs/discN/partX 22:00 < demian> ah no.. that's lilo, sorry 22:00 < _NULL> ??? 22:00 * _NULL doesn't use grup 22:00 < _NULL> s/grup/grub 22:00 < capchaos> grub rocks! 22:00 < capchaos> *flame* 22:00 < n00kie> can anyone please tell me the entry? 22:01 < _NULL> capchaos: :p 22:02 < n00kie> hi capchaos 22:02 < capchaos> n00kie, I haven't used grub with Windows partitions... but I see the info/man pages say a lot about it 22:03 * capchaos too lazy to read through, though 22:03 < n00kie> yeeeeeees 22:03 < n00kie> ROCK is booting! :))9 22:03 < n00kie> :))) 22:04 < n00kie> is there anyway to install nano ? 22:06 < n00kie> how can i remove a user? 22:06 < capchaos> userdel user 22:07 < n00kie> hmm 22:07 < n00kie> i made 22:07 < n00kie> useradd n00kie -p password 22:07 < n00kie> and it doesn't accepts the passwd? 22:08 < kasc> re 22:08 < n00kie> wb kasc! 22:08 < kasc> thx :) 22:10 -!- demian is now known as scasb 22:10 < capchaos> scasb? 22:10 < scasb> an ia32 machine internal instruction 22:11 < capchaos> Ah :) 22:11 < capchaos> n00kie, what does it say? 22:11 < n00kie> login incorrect 22:11 < n00kie> hmm 22:12 < n00kie> should i user 22:12 < scasb> n00kie: do that is dangerous, never add a user displaying its pasword in the cmd, instead try to addd it first and later change its password with 'passwd' command 22:12 < scasb> btw.. what rock are u using ? 22:12 < n00kie> useradd n00kie -c Real Name -d /home/n00kie -p PASSWORT -uid 2 ? 22:12 < n00kie> 2.0 alpha 22:13 < n00kie> ah 22:13 < n00kie> ok scasb 22:13 < scasb> umm. i see 22:13 < n00kie> what should i know enter to add the user n00kie? 22:14 < scasb> msae thing u did, but without the -p option. 22:14 < scasb> s/msae/same 22:14 < n00kie> ok 22:15 < n00kie> hmm 22:15 < n00kie> this doesn't works 22:16 < n00kie> useradd: Ungueltiges numerisches Argument 'ID' 22:16 < scasb> english ? 22:16 < n00kie> uhm 22:16 < n00kie> unknown numerical argument 'ID' 22:16 < n00kie> not unknown 22:16 < n00kie> i mean 22:17 < n00kie> no acceptable 22:17 < n00kie> not acceptable 22:17 < n00kie> sorry, my english is not very good 22:18 < scasb> just do this: useradd -m n00kie -u 2 22:18 < n00kie> useradd: UID 2 is not correct 22:19 < scasb> is the previous command u used -uid -> so u are trying to assing 'id' to uid 22:19 < n00kie> hm 22:19 < n00kie> ok 22:19 < n00kie> and what must i enter? 22:20 < scasb> useradd -m n00kie 22:20 < n00kie> ok 22:20 < n00kie> this worked :) 22:20 < n00kie> and how can I change the password? 22:20 < scasb> later changes values by hand in the passwd file or with 'chfn' command 22:20 < scasb> passwd 22:20 < n00kie> passwd n00kie password? 22:20 < n00kie> scasb ? 22:21 < scasb> passwd n00kie 22:21 < n00kie> ah 22:21 < n00kie> thank you! 22:21 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AA22F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:21 < n00kie> i have another problem 22:21 < n00kie> when i want to ping a website 22:21 < n00kie> it says host not found 22:21 < n00kie> but in the lan it finds the host 22:22 < n00kie> i think i have not added a gateway 22:22 < n00kie> can you please tell me the gateway command? 22:22 < n00kie> in man ifconfig i have not found anything 22:23 < scasb> sure, it is there 22:23 < n00kie> wait 22:23 < n00kie> i look again! 22:23 < scasb> ifconfig eth0 192.198.34.2 up 22:23 < scasb> make sure it ends in the subnet of the lan 22:24 < scasb> and later .. 22:24 < n00kie> eth0 is up with 192.168.0.4 22:24 < scasb> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0 22:24 < scasb> (replace 192.168.0.1 with ur gw addr) 22:25 < n00kie> thank you very very much!!! 22:25 < n00kie> yes 22:25 < n00kie> you helped me! 22:25 < n00kie> hmm 22:25 < n00kie> when i wanna start irssi 22:25 < n00kie> it says 22:25 < n00kie> ** ERROR **: Couldn' create /home/n00kie/.irssi directory 22:25 < scasb> hehe 22:25 < n00kie> aborting 22:26 < n00kie> what should i do? 22:26 < _NULL> you don't have /home/n00kie have you? 22:26 < n00kie> i have 22:26 < tfing> is it owned by n00kie ? 22:26 < scasb> chown -r n00kie.users /home/n00kie 22:27 < n00kie> ah 22:27 < n00kie> thank you guys 22:27 < n00kie> now it works 22:27 < n00kie> i will come in rock now 22:31 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tibit_, vectrax, snyke, Mike1, Parabull, kasc, huebi, netrunner_, tibit, n00kie, (+9 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:31 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: scasb, blindcod1r, capchaos, n00kie, tfing, netrunner_, tibit_, Parabull, kasc, Mike1 (+6 more) 22:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tibit, A-Tui, rolla 22:32 < n00kie> sorry 22:32 < n00kie> i don't understand 22:32 < n00kie> When I want to open with vim this file 22:32 < n00kie> it opens /etc/init.d/network 22:32 < n00kie> not /etc/init.d/network script 22:33 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AB2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:33 < scasb> sure, network is the script! 22:33 < n00kie> this file is empty 22:33 < scasb> just see a little the script source and modify IP's 22:33 < n00kie> i have this file not 22:33 * _NULL not, too 22:33 < _NULL> /etc/init.d is not existent 22:33 < n00kie> "/etc/init.d/network script" [New File] 22:34 -!- mauricio [~mauricio@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 22:34 < scasb> umm.... doe this directory changed in the 1.7 tree ?? 22:37 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: vectrax, snyke, Mike1, Parabull, kasc, huebi, netrunner_, tibit, n00kie_, n00kie, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mauricio, n00kie_, scasb, blindcod1r, capchaos, n00kie, tfing, netrunner_, Parabull, kasc (+7 more) 22:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tibit, A-Tui, rolla 22:38 < n00kie_> ah 22:38 < scasb> n00kie: this will give u a global idea of how rock works and will allow u to expand ur possibilities 22:38 < n00kie_> this was already made automaticilly 22:39 < mauricio> scasb, what 'bout you? 22:39 < scasb> ? 22:40 < scasb> mauricio: im waiting for a partner to start coding an asm stuff concerned to java, pipelining, serial, parallel, and usb port :( .. 22:40 < mauricio> scasb :'( 22:40 < scasb> i need to present that work for holyday's wednesday :( -> because of Rodrigo Nunez :( 22:40 < scasb> and.. how did u come over here ? 22:41 < scasb> che ? 22:41 < scasb> btw..i met Che and a friend yesterday at night. 22:42 < mauricio> scasb, good luck! 22:42 < n00kie> can anyone please tell me the adress for the nvidia geforce drivers? 22:42 < n00kie> i have no xfree, so it is hard to get the adress 22:42 < _NULL> no xfree??? 22:42 < n00kie> no 22:43 < n00kie> i work with console 22:43 < n00kie> because i have no nvidia drivers 22:43 < _NULL> ah so... 22:43 < n00kie> i must install them first 22:43 < scasb> this man is doing it in the good way 22:43 < n00kie> but i don't know the url 22:43 < scasb> well, there is a default nvidia driver included in xfree86 22:44 < n00kie> but this driver does not work with geforce 4:( 22:44 < scasb> but to get the power of nvidia in xfree86, .. mom 22:45 < n00kie> please no querry 22:45 < n00kie> i don't know how to read them in irssi 22:45 < _NULL> *ggg+ 22:45 < scasb> CTRL-P, CTRL-N -> this switch windows in irssi 22:46 < _NULL> alt+numberofwindows 22:46 < scasb> or ALT-N (where N in the number of the window) 22:47 < n00kie_> ok 22:47 < n00kie_> ty 22:47 < mauricio> n00kie, https://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_display_ia32_1.0-4349 22:47 < scasb> n00kie: the link i gave u is part of my old rock repos, the extension for optional/nvidia is there 22:48 < scasb> just use those links and use the build configuration by hand , do not apply it to rock source for now. 22:48 < scasb> thenx mauricio 22:49 < n00kie> ok 22:55 < scasb> i must leave right now 22:55 < scasb> bye all 22:56 < _NULL> bye scasb 22:56 -!- scasb is now known as demian 22:57 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 23:07 < A-Tui> how much disc space require ROCK 1.7 bulding? 23:08 < tfing> 2.3Go 23:08 < tfing> something like that 23:09 < A-Tui> ok tnx tfing 23:09 < n00kie_> anyone running geforce 4 nvidia drivers on rock linux 1.7 or 2.0 alpha? 23:15 -!- mauricio is now known as kcore 23:17 -!- kcore [~mauricio@196.40.45.146] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:18 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@Ba988.pppool.de] has quit ("Kill all extreme people!") 23:19 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@Ba988.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:28 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 23:36 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:40 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@Ba988.pppool.de] has quit ("Kill all extreme people!") 23:45 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:45 < [n00kie]> Hi 23:54 -!- [n00kie] [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("[gF]iRC v.o.7.9-1 - mIRC6.o3") 23:59 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-074-096.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Sat Apr 12 00:00:44 2003