-!- Irrsi  Log opened Sun Apr 13 00:00:02 2003
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[00:00] < n00kie> yes
[00:01] < daja77> I have seen such a menu on stone
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[00:03] < n00kie> I am not
[00:03] < daja77> :(
[00:03] < n00kie> but i think a selfmade script is better :)
[00:04] < daja77> why?
[00:04] < n00kie> because i learn more from linux
[00:05] < n00kie> than using an automatician script :)
[00:05] < daja77> ok, but you should do if it is your job installing lots of machines
[00:05] < n00kie> yes
[00:06] < n00kie> but i wanna just configure my own machine at the moment :)
[00:06] < daja77> :)
[00:06] < daja77> .oO I have more than one "own" machine :)
[00:08] < n00kie> ich have just 2
[00:08] < n00kie> i am student :)
[00:08] < n00kie> i have no money :)
[00:08]   daja77 too
[00:09] < n00kie> i am poor
[00:09] < n00kie> i live with my family under bridge :)
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[00:21] < daja77> capchaos: what are you doin?
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[00:21] < capchaos> sry
[00:22] < daja77> why a swiss?
[00:22] < capchaos> Well I like Swizerland ;)
[00:23] < daja77> what for?
[00:23] < capchaos> For it's excellent cheese
[00:23] < n00kie> What binary files, does Rock use?
[00:24] < daja77> ELF
[00:25] < daja77> capchaos: how you got that swiss domain from here?
[00:25] < capchaos> through black magic
[00:26] < daja77> ah tell me more :)
[00:26] < capchaos> No way ;)
[00:26]   daja77 is interested in black magic
[00:28] < capchaos> <URL:https://google.com/search?q=black+magic>
[00:28] < ringo78> daja77: trye kernel havking ;-)
[00:28] < capchaos> *g
[00:28] < daja77> capchaos: you are evil
[00:28] < capchaos> I know!
[00:29] < ringo78> s/v///
[00:29] < daja77> ringo78: should be s/v/c//
[00:31] < ringo78> daja77: sri....
[00:31] < daja77> ringo78: ???
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[00:39] < ringo78> daja77: sri for the spelling, installin debian gnu hurd, I hope I wotn be hurt.
[00:39] < daja77> ringo78: debian hurts, it is enabled as default :)
[00:40] < ringo78> I am just curious about this hurd thingie.
[00:40] < daja77> aeh, you install debian hurd?
[00:41] < ringo78> yes I am trying ... Deb wants to install grub . :-(
[00:41] < daja77> grub is nice, what's your problem with it
[00:42] < ringo78> I dont know it maybe I should but I like no hassle lilo.
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[00:42] < daja77> grub is more comfortable
[00:42] < A-Tui> hi
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[00:42] < daja77> A-Tui: hi, nice to see in the morning :)
[00:43] < ringo78> I'll sea ... Hope you are right.
[00:43] < A-Tui> morning? :)
[00:43] < daja77> Son Apr 13 00:48:52 CEST 2003
[00:43] < ringo78> good morning A-Tui
[00:44] < A-Tui> yes... morning, good morning daja77, ringo78 :)
[00:44] < A-Tui> eh good morning capchaos too
[00:49] < capchaos> morning A-Tui
[00:49] < daja77> A-Tui: tell me a story before I go to bed :)
[00:49] < n00kie> Hi A-Tui !!
[00:49] < n00kie> A-Tui: I like Grub more than LiLo!
[00:49] < daja77> n00kie: ahem, tell it to ringo :))))
[00:50] < n00kie> ringo78: I like Grub more than LiLo! ;)
[00:50] < n00kie> hehe :)
[00:50] < n00kie> 2.4.20
[00:51] < n00kie> Linux n0nsense 2.4.20 #1 Fri Mar 28 19:18:24 CET 2003 i686 unknown
[00:51] < n00kie> My rock machine :)
[00:51] < A-Tui> n00kie: good :)
[00:52] < daja77> n00kie: congrats
[00:52] < n00kie> :)
[00:52] < A-Tui> daja77: what kind of story?
[00:53] < daja77> hmm, a nice one, so that I can sleep better
[00:54] < A-Tui> i'm just a really bad teller stories :P
[00:55] < n00kie> daja77: You should ask Mike1  :)
[00:55] < daja77> he is away
[00:55] < daja77> ...far away :(
[00:57] < daja77> A-Tui: ok then just tell us a joke
[00:58] < A-Tui> mmm i think i couldn't tell a joke in english :)
[00:58] < A-Tui> so if you want tell you in spanish :)
[00:58] < n00kie> A-Tui: Try!!
[00:59] < daja77> A-Tui: no I don't like jokes in languages I don't understand
[00:59] < A-Tui> it's logic :)
[01:00] < n00kie> Be right back!!
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[01:00] < A-Tui> mmm a friend who are going to germany this month it's going to borrow me a german manual :)
[01:00] < daja77> for what?
[01:01] < A-Tui> i don't know :)
[01:01] < A-Tui> he said that he don't need it :)
[01:01] < daja77> do I scan, then I can tell you :)
[01:01] < daja77> a scan of course
[01:01] < A-Tui> scan?
[01:02] < daja77> yeah, scan the front page of the manual, so that I can view it as an image
[01:03] < A-Tui> ahhh
[01:03] < A-Tui> i think german it's too hard to learn in short time :(
[01:04] < _NULL> re
[01:04] < daja77> re hi _NULL
[01:05] < A-Tui> hi _NULL
[01:05] < daja77> A-Tui: don't worry, you can't learn every language on the planet anyway
[01:06] < A-Tui> i know that, but there are some languages that are so pretty to try it
[01:06] < daja77> which?
[01:07] < A-Tui> german, french, greek, mmm and i think and the language of sahara's people :)
[01:07] < daja77> arab?
[01:07] < daja77> or you mean tuareg?
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[01:08] < A-Tui> all arab people don't speak the same language
[01:08] < daja77> dialects of arab, I know
[01:09] < A-Tui> yes
[01:09] < daja77> what foreign languages you had at school
[01:09] < A-Tui> only english :(
[01:09] < daja77> better than nothing :)
[01:09] < A-Tui> yeah :)
[01:10]   daja77 had three foreign languages at school
[01:10] < A-Tui> w0w
[01:10] < A-Tui> spanish education it's very very bad
[01:11] < daja77> well I choose to do so, I could have reduced it to two foreign languages
[01:11] < A-Tui> which?
[01:11] < daja77> russian, english and french
[01:11] < A-Tui> russian!
[01:12] < A-Tui> well i study a year of latin
[01:12] < A-Tui> studied :)
[01:12] < daja77> yeah, started at 5th grade
[01:12] < A-Tui> grades are diferents here
[01:13]   daja77 had the chance to learn latin but chose a non-dead language
[01:14] < A-Tui> here it's mandatory!
[01:14] < A-Tui> everybody in high studies have a year of latin
[01:14] < daja77> russian was mandatory before 1989 :)
[01:15] < A-Tui> hehe, what place at german are you? in the east?
[01:15] < daja77> yepp
[01:15] < A-Tui> jeje
[01:15] < daja77> ?
[01:16] < A-Tui> i suppose that this is the reason for the mandatory russian language, true?
[01:16] < daja77> yes
[01:16] < A-Tui> well, here before 1978 was censored vasque language
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[01:17] < A-Tui> and basque names, and basque culture, etc...
[01:17] < [n00kie]> re!
[01:17] < daja77> A-Tui: are you from basque region
[01:17] < A-Tui> mmm i think 1975, when Franco died
[01:17] < _NULL> hi [n00kie]
[01:17] < A-Tui> daja77: my family all
[01:17] < daja77> I see
[01:17] < A-Tui> i was born near of it
[01:18] < daja77> wb [n00kie]
[01:18] < [n00kie]> Hello _Null!
[01:18] < [n00kie]> thank you
[01:18] < A-Tui> my name and my surname are basques
[01:18] < [n00kie]> hey _NULL
[01:18] < A-Tui> hi [n00kie]
[01:18] < [n00kie]> I got my Rock Machine finally work
[01:18] < [n00kie]> hi A-Tui
[01:20] < _NULL> [n00kie]: congrats
[01:29] < ringo78> [n00kie]: Now you can really Rock your machine !
[01:30] < [n00kie]> yes :)
[01:30] < ringo78> Going to regenerate for a while see you in some hours.
[01:31] < [n00kie]> Have Fun!
[01:31] < daja77> ringo78: see you, bye
[01:33] < daja77> gn8 you all
[01:33] < capchaos> gnu8 daja77
[01:33] < A-Tui> bye daja77
[01:34] < esden> hi all
[01:34] < esden> that was a small but nice party ...
[01:35] < daja77> huhu esden, nice to see you before I leave
[01:35] < esden> does anyone want a peace of cake?
[01:35] < esden> there is still something here
[01:35] < _NULL> hi esden
[01:35] < daja77> *raises hand*
[01:35] < A-Tui> hello esden
[01:35]   esden sends daja77 a peace of cake
[01:35] < [n00kie]> gn8 daja!
[01:36]   daja77 eats the cake before goin to bed
[01:36] < A-Tui> :)
[01:36] < daja77> bye esden, thx and cu
[01:36] < esden> denada daja77
[01:36] < esden> good night daja77
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[01:36] < esden> I mean "de nada"
[01:37] < A-Tui> that's better :)
[01:37] < esden> *GG*
[01:44] < [n00kie]> I will go to bed too!
[01:44] < [n00kie]> Good Night!
[01:44] < esden> good night [n00kie]
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[02:16] < _NULL> hi kasc
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[03:56] < esden> wee ... rocklinux rulez ...
[03:56] < esden> the stone installation still needs some minor improovement ... but it really rulez
[03:59]   tfing agrees :)
[04:00] < esden> ohh ... still someone alive ... amazing ;-)
[04:00] < esden> I really should go to bed ... *sigh*
[04:00] < esden> I hate that
[04:01] < tfing> me too
[04:01] < tfing> nite esden
[04:01] < esden> good night
[04:04] < _NULL> gn8
[04:19] < Ge0rG> bye :)
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[08:41] < [n00kie]> Good Morning!
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[09:32] < n00kie> Hi
[09:32] < n00kie> Anyone alive?
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[11:34] < daja77> hi dzafez, all
[11:35] < dzafez> hi
[11:35] < dzafez> hi ROCKLinux
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[11:35] < _NULL> hi dzafez , daja77
[11:35] < daja77> hi _NULL
[11:35] < dzafez> hi daja77, hi _NULL
[11:36]   dzafez asks for the spoken chan-language ;)
[11:36]   daja77 is fighting with a brain dead siemens case
[11:36] < kasc> moin
[11:36] < dzafez> ah
[11:36] < daja77> dzafez: english
[11:36] < capchaos> dzafez, LANG=en
[11:36] < dzafez> moin moin
[11:36] < _NULL> hi kasc
[11:36] < daja77> hi capchaos
[11:36] < capchaos> morning everyone :)
[11:36] < daja77> hi kasc
[11:37] < dzafez> ok no Prob
[11:38] < dzafez> what is the nick of Jocelyn - or does he just login in with this name?
[11:39]   kasc fights with the kernel
[11:39] < dzafez> did anyone here about the Rootboard interview?
[11:39] < daja77> dzafez: jocelyn is a woman
[11:40] < kasc> rootboard?
[11:40] < daja77> kasc: who wins?
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[11:40] < kasc> daja77: i did not surrender, yet
[11:40] < Patrickk> hi all
[11:40] < _NULL> hi Patrickk
[11:40] < kasc> but it look like the kernel wins
[11:40] < daja77> hi Patrickk
[11:40] < kasc> hi Patrickk
[11:40] < daja77> kasc: :( why?
[11:41] < dzafez> Jocelyn (sry didn't know, don't matter) talked to me about this and we are going to have a Interview with ROCKLinux Core in this Channel
[11:41] < kasc> it keeps hanging everytime it comes to partition check on my notebook
[11:41] < daja77> kasc: explain
[11:42] < kasc> daja77: there isnt much i can explain. it just halts without any further message
[11:43] < kasc> fortunately i have a backup kernel on that box to get it to running with loadlin
[11:43] < _NULL> kasc: at about 92.xx % of checking?
[11:43] < daja77> hmm partition checks are happening after the kernel is loaded
[11:43] < daja77> maybe you can disable partition checks in init scripts
[11:44] < kasc> _NULL: no, right after the ide driver is loaded and it checks the drives for partitions
[11:44] < _NULL> k.
[11:44] < daja77> kasc: ah ic have you enabled the right chipset support
[11:44] < kasc> i hope so
[11:45] < daja77> what chipset?
[11:45]   dzafez has to go now
[11:45] < kasc> i'm currently trying with just the generic chipset enabled...
[11:45] < _NULL> bye dzafez
[11:45] < daja77> bye dzafez
[11:45] < kasc> some ali thing
[11:45] < kasc> bye dzafez
[11:46] < dzafez> bye _NULL, daja77, kasc   and    #ROCKLinux
[11:46] < daja77> there is an option, support ali chipsets in menuconfig
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[11:46] < kasc> i know, but that doesnt seem to work
[11:46] < daja77> maybe you should play around with the ide settings
[11:46] < kasc> maybe i'll need some boot parameter but first i want it booting at all without using dos
[11:47] < daja77> this has nothing to do with the boot manager
[11:48] < kasc> has it not? how am i supposed to put kernel parameters if not with the boot manager?
[11:49] < daja77> what parameters do you need, afaik you shouldn't need parameters for hds
[11:49] < kasc> dunno. still searching for possible parameters in the kernel docs
[11:50] < daja77> kasc: you don't need parameters for hds, tell me your ide settings
[11:50] < ringo78> kasc: Did you rerun lilo (even if the kernel image has the same name) ?
[11:50] < kasc> ringo78: i use grub
[11:50] < daja77> good
[11:50] < kasc> daja77: what ide settings?
[11:51] < daja77> in the menu in which you can select ata ide support there are other settings, maybe they are wrong
[11:51] < daja77> hi ringo78 :)
[11:52] < ringo78> hi daja77 kasc btw :)
[11:52] < kasc> i'm currently trying without any nifty options. kernel ist still building...
[11:52] < kasc> hi ringo78 :)
[11:53] < daja77> but you have at least enabled ide hd support?
[11:53] < kasc> sure
[11:54] < kasc> just the generic driver
[11:54] < daja77> otherwise you'll get a panic btdt
[11:54] < daja77> should be ok
[12:09] < daja77> kill -9 siemens*
[12:12] < ringo78> daja77: fujitsu siemens ?
[12:14] < daja77> it is an old computer, siemens only :)
[12:15] < ringo78> ahh i tried to boot also on some old computers it failed tried to 1.6.0pre3
[12:16] < daja77> 1.7 should work
[12:17] < daja77> kasc: any news?
[12:17] < ringo78> doesnt matter anyways were not my computers
[12:17] < kasc> still building
[12:17] < daja77> ringo78: hehe :)))
[12:18] < ringo78> kasc: on which processor are you compiling ?
[12:18] < daja77> good question
[12:18] < kasc> 166 MHz i think...
[12:18] < daja77> *argh*
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[12:18] < kasc> hehe
[12:18] < [n00kie]> hello
[12:19] < daja77> hey [n00kie] :)
[12:19] < kasc> a good time for breakfast ;)
[12:19] < kasc> hi [n00kie]
[12:19] < [n00kie]> hello daja77 :)
[12:19] < [n00kie]> Hi kasc
[12:19] < ringo78> hi [n00kie]
[12:19] < [n00kie]> hi ringo
[12:19] < daja77> kasc: yeah and in the evening the kernel is ready :)
[12:19] < _NULL> hi [n00kie]
[12:20] < [n00kie]> hi _NULL
[12:20] < kasc> daja77: yep, a looong and extensive breakfast ;)
[12:20] < daja77> kasc: have fun
[12:20] < kasc> thx
[12:20] < kasc> btw: anyone in here good at c?
[12:21] < ringo78> kasc C ? whats up ?
[12:21] < kasc> i have an *.a library but need a *.so library
[12:21] < kasc> someone told me to write a wrapper, but i'm not quite used to c
[12:22] < ringo78> option to configure ?
[12:22] < kasc> its a binary-only library
[12:23] < kasc> but i have a header file if that helps ;)
[12:24] < kasc> daja77: btw: it worked now. I'm currently trying to compile in some of the nifty features
[12:25] < ringo78> hmmm ... daunting ...
[12:26] < kasc> ringo78: is there any easy or at least clean way to build such a wrapper?
[12:29] < ringo78> kasc: sri I tought you meant real C codeing not libs but I am looking into it ;-) Btw what is the name ot the lib ?
[12:32] < kasc> libctb1.a i think. It comes with a chipcard reader from Siemens-Nixdorf
[12:33] < kasc> want me to send it to you?
[12:34] < ringo78> I think I have found something ...
[12:34] < kasc> libb1ct.a that is...
[12:35] < kasc> what? where?
[12:35] < daja77> kasc: congrats, any idea what went wrong?
[12:36] < kasc> daja77: looks like the ali native driver is crap
[12:36] < daja77> :)
[12:36] < daja77> hahaha, siemens again
[12:36] < kasc> the generic driver seems to detect the chipset as ali chipset and supports it well
[12:37] < daja77> the generic driver works quite well with lots of chipsets
[12:37] < ringo78> https://www.qnx.com/developer/articles/oct1901a/
[12:37] < kasc> wonder why the native ones do not
[12:38] < daja77> do I have to tell you about vendors and manufacturers
[12:38] < daja77> ringo78: qnx != linux
[12:41] < ringo78> sri :-( taking a book programming linux ;-)
[12:42] < daja77> ringo78: it might be helpful anyway, just beware :)
[12:42] < kasc> hehe
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[13:44] < _NULL> hi Ge0rG , thorus
[13:44] < thorus> hi
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[13:58] < Ge0rG> good morning :)
[13:59] < esden> good marning
[13:59] < esden> *yawn*
[14:02] < _NULL> morning esden
[14:02] < _NULL> open the eyes, before typing *vbeg*
[14:02] < Ge0rG> hehe
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[14:10] < wosch> hi
[14:10] < _NULL> hi wosch
[14:11] < wosch> Anyone knows about setting permissions for X direct rendering?
[14:15] < ringo78> wosch: devfsd.conf ?
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[14:15] < thorus> re
[14:15] < thorus> hi@all
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[14:20] < _NULL> re
[14:20] < ringo78> re
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[14:22] < A-Tui> hola
[14:25] < ringo78> buenos tardes  A-Tui
[14:26] < A-Tui> buenas tardes ringo78
[14:26] < [n00kie]> si senior ;)
[14:26] < [n00kie]> <- Don't know what it means :D
[14:26] < A-Tui> it means: yes, sir
[14:26] < A-Tui> XD
[14:28] < ringo78> daja77: any luck allready ?
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[14:32] < ringo78> daja77: reading about dyn (shared) and static libs, its possible now get my idea to work ;-)
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[14:33] < [n00kie]> Hello Caspar!
[14:33] < Caspar> hi
[14:34] < _NULL> hi Caspar
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[14:38] < [n00kie]> Does here anyone run nvidia geforce4 drivers on rock?
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[14:39] < blindcoder> not yet, just GeForce2
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[14:39] < [n00kie]> uhmm
[14:40] < [n00kie]> i think the geforce 2 drivers are already in xfree?
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[14:40] < blindcoder> dunno
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[14:41] < [n00kie]> what means dunno?
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[14:41] < wosch> re
[14:41] < blindcoder> don't know
[14:42] < wosch> you knows what i have to chown so i can run opengl programs as non-root?
[14:43] < blindcoder> erm... no... I usually don't do it...
[14:43] < blindcoder> I never chown'ed anything...
[14:43] < wosch> just, I don't feel so well having the kids play gltron as root...
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[14:44] < javito> as root?
[14:44] < javito> mmm?
[14:44] < javito> why?
[14:44] < blindcoder> why root?
[14:44] < blindcoder> that's the strangest thing I ever heard
[14:44] < javito> sure
[14:44] < blindcoder> I log in, type startx, and run my opengl-apps
[14:44] < wosch> hmm... mompls...
[14:44] < javito> running gltron as root.. please add that on the topic!
[14:46] < wosch> it doesn't run accelerated as vanilla user
[14:47] < wosch> glxinfo says:
[14:47] < blindcoder> wosch: you DO have 'Driver      "nvidia"' in your /etc/X11/XF86Config and the kernerl module loaded?
[14:47] < wosch> nvidia? beats me, on intel hardware...
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[14:47] < n00kie> Hello!
[14:47] < wosch> glxinfo says something about operation not permitted when accessing DRM
[14:48] < javito> check DRI permissions
[14:48] < blindcoder> oh, nsorry... was n00kie talking about GeForce
[14:48] < n00kie> when I wanna mount hda5
[14:48] < n00kie> it says
[14:48] < wosch> where are thos DRI permissions?
[14:48] < n00kie> /mnt/hda5 does not exist
[14:48] < n00kie> why?
[14:48] < wosch> because rock is using devfs
[14:48] < n00kie> ah
[14:48] < n00kie> /devfs/hda5 =
[14:48] < n00kie> ?
[14:48] < _NULL> n00kie: nope.
[14:48] < _NULL> ls -l /dev
[14:49] < wosch> type ls /dev/ide/ then TAB through...
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[14:49] < esden> morning n00kie
[14:49] < esden> hi owl
[14:49] < esden> hi wosch
[14:49] < blindcoder> moin esdi
[14:49] < esden> hmm ... flood ;-)
[14:49] < n00kie> ah
[14:49] < esden> hi blindcoder
[14:49] < n00kie> i have it
[14:49] < ringo78> nookie: "REGISTER .* MKOLDCOMPAT" in devfsd.conf solves your problem
[14:50] < n00kie> hi esden!
[14:50] < ringo78> You get all your precious old devices.
[14:51] < wosch> why would I want those precious old devices?
[14:51] < n00kie> hmm
[14:51] < blindcoder> wosch: because VMWare isn't devFS\-Aware for one
[14:52] < n00kie> Uhm
[14:52] < n00kie> I will write a alias for that!!
[14:52] < esden> blindcoder: do you have running vmware on rock?
[14:52] < n00kie> than it works too!
[14:52] < n00kie> i think!
[14:52] < wosch> blindcoder: i see
[14:52] < n00kie> i try to install the nvidia drivers
[14:52] < blindcoder> esden: yes, I proved it to work once you make some MKOLDCOMPAT's
[14:52]   esden has 1.7 isos made out of cvs co from before two days
[14:52] < esden> if someone is interested
[14:52] < wosch> I found that dri permission problem :)
[14:52] < esden> but for athlon
[14:53] < blindcoder> wosch: Section "DRI"
[14:53] < blindcoder> Pormissions "0666"
[14:53] < ringo78> esden: Friend !
[14:53] < blindcoder> EndSecrtion
[14:53] < blindcoder> IIRC
[14:53] < blindcoder> s/Por/Per/
[14:53] < wosch> Can I make that chgrp which I threw on /dev/dri/card0 somehow persistent... ahh thanks
[14:53] < n00kie> waaaah
[14:53] < n00kie> i hate thos damn nvidia
[14:53] < esden> ringo78: ;-)
[14:53] < n00kie> it says
[14:53] < blindcoder> n00kie: what's the problem?
[14:53] < n00kie> Unable to load kernel module nvidia.o
[14:53] < n00kie> what should i do?
[14:53] < blindcoder> n00kie: compile hte kernel module
[14:54] < n00kie> the script wants to do this
[14:54] < ringo78> esden: where do I down ?
[14:54] < blindcoder> n00kie: so let it do it
[14:54] < n00kie> yes
[14:54] < n00kie> but it says it is unable to load the kernel module
[14:54] < blindcoder> then compile the kernel module
[14:55] < n00kie> where can I get the kernel module?
[14:55] < blindcoder> dc /usr/src/rock-src
[14:55] < blindcoder> ./scripts/Download -package nvidia
[14:55] < blindcoder> ./scripts/Xuild-Pkg nvidia
[14:55] < blindcoder> done
[14:55] < blindcoder> s/X/B/
[14:56] < n00kie> ./scripts/Download file or directory not found
[14:56] < n00kie> :((
[14:56] < blindcoder> rock 1.7 or 1.5?
[14:56] < daja77> re
[14:56] < n00kie> rock 1.7 snapshot
[14:56] < n00kie> wb daja77 !
[14:56] < daja77> thx
[14:56] < blindcoder> then it has to be there, you're in the wrong dir
[14:57] < n00kie> no
[14:57] < daja77> hi blindcoder, wosch and esden :)
[14:57] < n00kie> i meade everything you said
[14:57] < n00kie> ah
[14:57] < n00kie> i think its
[14:57] < blindcoder> n00kie: also corrected the dc/dc typo?
[14:57] < n00kie> rock-src-snapshot
[14:57] < blindcoder> dc/cd?
[14:57] < n00kie> dc = cd ?
[14:57] < n00kie> or what?
[14:57] < n00kie> i entered dc
[14:57] < blindcoder> yeah, was a typo
[14:58] < n00kie> what is a typo?
[14:58] < n00kie> sorry, my englisch is not very good
[14:58] < daja77> tippfehler
[14:58] < blindcoder> typo / typoing error
[14:58]   blindcoder can't type >_<
[14:58] < n00kie> ah
[14:58] < n00kie> now i should enter DC ?
[14:58] < n00kie> i mean
[14:58] < n00kie> CD
[14:58] < n00kie> not DC?
[14:58] < blindcoder> yes
[14:58] < n00kie> ok
[14:59] < n00kie> pelase post again what i should enter
[14:59] < n00kie> i am on irssi
[14:59] < n00kie> there is no scrolling
[14:59] < n00kie> please blindcoder
[14:59] < blindcoder> n00kie: Bild rauf / Bild runter
[15:00] < blindcoder> cd /usr/src/rock-src
[15:00] < blindcoder> ./scripts/Download -package nvidia
[15:00] < blindcoder> ./scripts/Build-Package nvidia
[15:00] < n00kie> ah
[15:01] < n00kie> thank you
[15:01] < n00kie> the first thing works :)
[15:01] < blindcoder> :)
[15:01] < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to dancing now
[15:01] < blindcoder> baba
[15:01] < n00kie> bye!
[15:01] < n00kie> thank you again!
[15:01] < esden> ringo78: nowhere ... but I can upload it to you if you give me a place
[15:02] < daja77> n00kie: bye, cu
[15:03] < n00kie> no
[15:03] < n00kie> i don't go
[15:03] < n00kie> blindcoder goes, daja!!
[15:03] < daja77> oh damn
[15:03] < n00kie> :-))
[15:03] < daja77> bye blindcoder
[15:03] < n00kie> No problem!
[15:04] < ringo78> esden: trying to get ftp back up :-()
[15:05] < esden> ringo78: k ;-)
[15:06] < n00kie> when i enter
[15:06] < n00kie> ./scripts/build-pkg nvidia
[15:06] < daja77> huhu esden :)
[15:06] < n00kie> it says
[15:06] < n00kie> ERROR: No configuration 'default' found.
[15:06] < n00kie> Please create a configuration using ./scripts/Config
[15:06] < n00kie> should i enter
[15:07] < n00kie> ./scripts/Config ?
[15:08] < esden> huhu daja77
[15:08] < n00kie> daja77, esden, ringo78: Should I enter ./scripts/Config ?
[15:08] < esden> yes
[15:08] < n00kie> ok
[15:08] < snyke> xhi esden
[15:09] < n00kie> Oh
[15:09] < n00kie> There is now the build config!!
[15:09] < n00kie> Does this mean to compile the system?
[15:10] < n00kie> help me please!
[15:11] < daja77> hey snyke :)
[15:11] < _NULL> moin snyke
[15:11] < n00kie> Means the build config to compile the system?
[15:12] < n00kie> I just want to build the nvidia drivers!
[15:12] < daja77> Config is just for configurating things it does no compile
[15:12] < n00kie> ah
[15:12] < n00kie> but i don't know what to enter and so!!
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[15:13] < n00kie> architecture options:
[15:13] < n00kie> what should i select there?
[15:13] < n00kie> i have a athlon xp
[15:13] < daja77> re hi capchaos
[15:13] < capchaos> jo er hi
[15:13] < n00kie> wb capchaos
[15:13] < capchaos> re
[15:13] < daja77> capchaos: swiss again?
[15:13] < capchaos> Heh yeah
[15:14] < n00kie> hey guys
[15:14] < n00kie> help me please!
[15:14] < n00kie> :(
[15:14] < capchaos> wus up there?
[15:14] < n00kie> i am on build config
[15:14] < n00kie> but i mostly don't know what to select!!
[15:14] < capchaos> There is not much to select ehh :)
[15:15] < n00kie> yes
[15:15] < n00kie> but what should i select?
[15:15] < capchaos> athlon-xp
[15:15] < n00kie> there is not athlon xp
[15:15] < capchaos> ?
[15:15] < _NULL> n00kie: sure there is.
[15:15] < n00kie> no
[15:15] < n00kie> intel x86
[15:15] < n00kie> or
[15:15] < capchaos>    (athlon-xp) Optimised for AMD Athlon XP
[15:15] < n00kie> no generic configure
[15:15] < capchaos> n00kie, I guess you won't need a cross-build
[15:16] < capchaos> and generic rock would do just fine
[15:16] < n00kie> ah
[15:16] < n00kie> i found!!
[15:16] < n00kie> there was a "untermenue!
[15:16] < capchaos> I'd also select Abort when a package-build fails
[15:16] < capchaos> Else I expect there to be mess in the dependencies.. dunno
[15:16] < javito> can i compile an application i have coded in C for win32 on my linux box?
[15:17] < daja77> javito: depends
[15:17] < capchaos> javito, depends on what libraries you use
[15:17] < capchaos> javito, or if win32 was a standart ansi C
[15:17] < javito> the standards one =)
[15:17] < capchaos> javito, give it a try ;)
[15:17] < javito> yes , its standard ansi c
[15:18] < javito> i mean, i would be using gnuC?
[15:18] < n00kie> What should I select on
[15:18] < n00kie> "Build System Configuration"
[15:18] < n00kie> ?
[15:18] < daja77> of course you shouldn't include windows.h :)
[15:18] < n00kie> there are many points to select
[15:18] < capchaos>   [*]    Abort when a package-build fails <- maybe
[15:18] < n00kie> but i don't know what to select!
[15:18] < ringo78> hmm anybody know why ftp and in fact all my services are refused by a remote host ?
[15:19] < capchaos> ringo78, maybe your IP pool is blocked
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[15:19] < capchaos> ringo78, like if some host doesn't like *.t-dialin.net .. for some reason or another
[15:19]   daja77 sings what a maniac sunday
[15:19] < n00kie> help me please!
[15:20] < capchaos> n00kie, that's it! :)
[15:20] < n00kie> but on Build System Configuration
[15:20] < n00kie> there is no point selectet
[15:20] < n00kie> what points should i select?
[15:20] < capchaos> < capchaos>   [*]    Abort when a package-build fails <- maybe
[15:20] < n00kie> ah
[15:20] < n00kie> nothing others?
[15:21] < capchaos> n00kie, if this is your first build you'll live fine with nothing else selected
[15:21] < n00kie> i don
[15:21] < n00kie> 't want to build the system!
[15:21] < n00kie> i just wnat to build nvidia drivers!!
[15:21] < capchaos> Well, go ahead ;)
[15:22] < ringo78> capchaos: strange if I use my ip adres it refuses if I enter a FQDN it accept
[15:22] < n00kie> ok
[15:22] < ringo78> s
[15:22] < n00kie> i try!!
[15:23] < n00kie> yes!!
[15:23] < n00kie> It finished building the nvidia packages!!
[15:23] < n00kie> what should i do now?
[15:23] < n00kie> can I start x?
[15:23] < capchaos> n00kie, congrats ;)
[15:23] < n00kie> or must I use the setup tool from nvidia again?
[15:23] < capchaos> ringo78, dunno
[15:24] < capchaos> n00kie, I guess no.. just try startx
[15:24] < n00kie> ok
[15:25] < n00kie> Fatal Error: No Screens found
[15:25] < n00kie> Must I configure Xfree config with Stone?
[15:25] < capchaos> modprobe nvidia ;)
[15:25] < n00kie> I haven't done this yet!!
[15:26] < n00kie> capchaos: Should I not configure my xfree configuration file?
[15:26] < n00kie> help me please!
[15:27] < capchaos> n00kie, see with lsmod if nvidia is loaded and if there is an entry like Driver "nvidia" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[15:27] < n00kie> No
[15:27] < n00kie> nvidia is not loaded!
[15:27] < n00kie> i mean
[15:27] < n00kie> on lsmod!
[15:28] < capchaos> < capchaos> modprobe nvidia ;)
[15:28] < n00kie> Can't locate module nvidia
[15:28] < n00kie> What should I do know?
[15:29] < capchaos> The.. dunno how ROCK installs nvidia modules... install the sources by hand.. first the kernel, second the glx source with "make install"..
[15:29] < n00kie> hmm
[15:29] < n00kie> can i try to run the nvidia setup tool again?
[15:29] < n00kie> i dont have the sources!
[15:30] < capchaos> ./script/Download -package nvidia
[15:30] < n00kie> I have done this already!
[15:31] < n00kie> and i have buildet iht successfully!
[15:32] < capchaos> I'd like to have tested it on my own.. but I'm not on a ROCK box ;)
[15:32] < n00kie> ok
[15:32] < n00kie> i will go a bit in sun now :)
[15:32] < n00kie> i will be back later !!
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[15:32] < capchaos> Have fun! It'll work, I promise ;)
[15:32] < n00kie> tzhank you
[15:32] < _NULL> sun? sun? - give me a sun !
[15:32] < n00kie> thank you
[15:32]   capchaos has too much sun here
[15:33] < _NULL> capchaos: which one? ;)
[15:33] < capchaos> The REAL sun
[15:33] < capchaos> Geekgirl! :P
[15:34] < _NULL> capchaos: :p you could give a unreal sun to me *eg*
[15:34] < capchaos> _NULL, I'd be glad to have one myself :p
[15:34] < _NULL> i know ;)
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[15:37] < ringo78> _NULL: an old one is not that expensive .
[15:37] < _NULL> ringo78: /me = poor
[15:45]   daja77 is waiting for the rich one here :)
[15:45] < daja77> *argh* grub setup fails for no obvious reason
[15:47] < daja77> any known problems with that?
[15:48] < capchaos> Yeah: too much beer ;)
[15:51] < daja77> capchaos: no, if I use stone, grub tells me everytime install succeeded, but hasn't installed a bit on mbr :(
[15:51] < capchaos> daja77, why use stone anyway? ;)
[15:51] < daja77> testing it of course
[15:52] < n00kie> daja77: I think I had this problem, when i want to write grub into hda1 which was ntfs!!
[15:53] < daja77> n00kie: no way, there is no evil system on that hd
[15:53] < n00kie> evil system?
[15:53] < daja77> win*
[15:53] < n00kie> hehe
[15:53] < capchaos> daja77, if the Elephant is too humpy use the horse ;) maybe Stone forgot something specific for your system
[15:53] < n00kie> i have nothing against windows
[15:54] < daja77> n00kie: I have fdisk against windows
[15:57] < daja77> capchaos: btw, this is second system where it fails :)
[15:57] < daja77> anyway I'll try to repair it
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[16:01] < daja77> rotcapchaos *rofl*
[16:01] < capchaos> hm?
[16:02] < daja77> you are rotating :)
[16:02] < capchaos> sry
[16:02] < daja77> np
[16:02] < capchaos> Just playing around.. bored ;)
[16:02] < daja77> find a girl and have fun :)
[16:02] < _NULL> daja77: *kick*
[16:03] < daja77> _NULL: ?
[16:03] < capchaos> I just lost one, so no fun
[16:03] < _NULL> daja77: girls are not just something to have fun with
[16:04]   daja77 sings "oh girls just wanna have fun..."
[16:04] < capchaos> *lol*
[16:04] < _NULL> mv /dev/world/daja77 /dev/hell
[16:04] < daja77> having fun in hell yeah
[16:04] < capchaos> Heh burn daja77 burn ;)
[16:05] < _NULL> *g*
[16:05] < daja77> .oO _NULL hates without an obvious reason
[16:06] < daja77> _NULL: maybe you shouldn't confuse having fun with having s*x
[16:06] < _NULL> daja77: a) you're a human, b) a man, c) babbling around crap here
[16:06] < daja77> a :)
[16:06] < _NULL> so i have 3 reasons to hate you :p
[16:06] < daja77> hehe, ok
[16:07]   daja77 has at least three reasons to like owl
[16:09]   daja77 is happy not to be kicked to heaven
[16:11] < capchaos> yeah, why have obligations after death ;)
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[16:11] < daja77> heaven is a dull place, all the christians hanging around there :)
[16:11] < daja77> wb A-Tui
[16:12] < A-Tui> hi daja77
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[16:31] < kasc> yippie! my notebook works again :)
[16:32] < daja77> congrats
[16:33] < A-Tui> problems on ROCK 1.7 built :(
[16:34] < A-Tui> misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c: In function `cleanenv':
[16:34] < A-Tui> misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:91: internal error: Illegal instruction
[16:41] < kasc> thx
[16:55] < kasc> A-Tui: might sound stupid, but did you make a ./scritps/Cleanup?
[16:57] < A-Tui> ops no
[16:57] < A-Tui> but it's my first build
[16:57] < A-Tui> src is new from CVS
[16:57] < A-Tui> i'm going to try a Cleanup
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[17:04] < daja77> damn
[17:05] < kasc> daja77: whats up?
[17:06] < daja77> dunno, it seems that _NULL left because of me...
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[17:09] < kasc> hehe
[17:09] < daja77> kasc: ?
[17:09] < kasc> she's going to die quite often
[17:09] < kasc> nothing to be worried about
[17:10] < daja77> yeah, but usually not after arguing with me :(
[17:11] < kasc> i'm sure she will be back later this eventing ;)
[17:11] < daja77> yepp, think so, but she is more down than before
[17:18] < daja77> *argl* can't install any bootmanager from my self made cds
[17:30] < kasc> damn! my notebook graphics chip doesnt support dri/gl
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[17:33] < dzafez> Hi
[17:33] < capchaos> hi dzafez
[17:33] < dzafez> I have trouble installing the Rock 1.6 iso
[17:34] < dzafez> ca hi
[17:35] < dzafez> after it boots from the CD it shows me a bootprompt (you all know this) afte i hit enter it says "loading linux" +"." and reboots
[17:36] < dzafez> whats wrong?
[17:37] < capchaos> What else does it say before rebooting?
[17:37] < dzafez> nothing
[17:38] < daja77> dzafez: how often did that happen?
[17:39] < dzafez> every time *pressing enter again- happens again*
[17:39] < daja77> strange, can you try a boot disk with a newer kernel?
[17:40] < dzafez> well I would like to build ROCK but i have a debian and i want ro build it on a rock since i read this would be less trouble
[17:40] < dzafez> I dont have a bootdisk at all
[17:41] < daja77> create one
[17:41] < dzafez> where to get the right one?
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[17:43] < dzafez> is there a newer iso than 1.6?
[17:44] < daja77> ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/slackware/slackware-9.0/bootdisks/bare.i
[17:44] < tcr> moin all
[17:44] < daja77> is a slackware bootdisk for testing
[17:44] < daja77> hi tcr
[17:44] < daja77> dzafez: yes there is
[17:45] < dzafez> thanks for the link it will be a fast download since I'm only 30 KM away
[17:46] < daja77> ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/dRock/unstable/2.0.0-alpha/
[17:47] < dzafez> I know but it says unstable and I'm just so scared
[17:47] < dzafez> lol
[17:47] < dzafez> thanks
[17:51] < daja77> :)
[17:51] < dzafez> I'm downloading right now 2.0 unstable
[17:53]   A-Tui is away: ¿Por que nos mirarán tan mal? Somos unos chicos de lo más normal!
[17:53] < dzafez> ok lets try the floppy
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[17:53] < daja77> A-Tui: whatever
[17:53] < dzafez> looks goot
[17:53] < daja77> hi xLobeznox
[17:54] < A-Tui> daja77: it's only an away
[17:54] < A-Tui> getting from a song
[17:54] < daja77> i see, sorry
[17:54] < A-Tui> cu guys, i'm going to walk the dog
[17:54] < A-Tui> daja77: no matter :)
[17:55] < dzafez> hahaha    kernel panic attempted to kill init !
[17:55] < daja77> dzafez: tell me about your hardware
[17:56] < dzafez> ok 400MHZ AMDK6
[17:56] < daja77> chipset
[17:56] < dzafez> 195584K RAM  mixed EDO and SDRAM
[17:56] < daja77> huh?
[17:57] < dzafez> ETEQ EQ82C6629
[17:57] < daja77> ah yes...
[17:58] < dzafez> I know this sounds wired
[17:58] < dzafez> but this is a soyo beta-tester board
[17:58] < daja77> har har
[17:59] < dzafez> give me a second I try to resolve throug America II Chipfinder if I can see what the real CHipname is
[18:00] < daja77> ok
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[18:02] < dzafez> Chipset Type
[18:02] < dzafez> VIA MVP3
[18:02] < dzafez> Chipset Description
[18:02] < dzafez> ETEQ 82C6638AT / 6629 AGP chipset
[18:02]   daja77 hates via
[18:03] < daja77> have you ever had linux on that box?
[18:03] < dzafez> knoppix was no problem
[18:03] < daja77> try the alpha maybe it works :)
[18:04] < dzafez> and via says this was explizidly compatible with FreeBSD
[18:04] < dzafez> I dont like problems
[18:05] < dzafez> maybe It works better on ROCK 2.0
[18:05] < daja77> I hope so
[18:05] < dzafez> could it just be a problem with my RAM?
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[18:10] < daja77> dzafez: dunno
[18:11] < dzafez> well
[18:11] < dzafez> I'll just wait until 2.0 is on my disk
[18:11] < daja77> yeah, wait
[18:11] < dzafez> thanks anyway
[18:11] < daja77> np
[18:12] < dzafez> c you  I'm going for Icecream
[18:12] < dzafez> bye
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[18:49] < _NULL> re
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[18:53] < _NULL> hi tcr , my special friend
[18:55] < daja77> re _NULL
[18:57] < esden> re
[18:57] < esden> dumdidum
[18:57] < daja77> hi esden
[18:57] < A-Tui> bye bye guys, today teather day :)
[18:57] < daja77> bye A-Tui
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[18:58] < _NULL> gna. too slow :-/
[19:02] < tcr> esden: still here?
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[19:03] < esden> tcr: yes
[19:03] < esden> didididing
[19:04] < esden> *dance*
[19:05] < daja77> esden dances for us, nice
[19:05] < tcr> esden: I think an own channel would be better for the upcoming talk. And for talks in general..
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[19:05] < esden> tcr: why do you think so ?
[19:07] < tcr> esden: Well, say the talk would be in a language I don't comprehend... I dunno if it wouldn't disturb me...
[19:07] < tcr> but for the 2h this channel i'td be practically unnecessary to be here. Kinda abuse
[19:08] < esden> hmm ... it is an argument
[19:08] < tcr> Well, and nothing speaks against #rocklinux-talk. Imho it isn't even necessary to register it, just say that the talk will be there, that's all
[19:09] < tcr> Everybody who _wants_ to attend, joins. Everyone else just doesnt.
[19:09] < esden> hmm ... yes
[19:10] < esden> but I would register it and log in the same way #rocklinux is being logged
[19:10] < tcr> And, also, the imagination that this channel would be a german one wouldn't come up...
[19:10] < n00kie> I am back!!
[19:10] < daja77> I think tcr is right, this chan would be flooded and unusable for anybody else
[19:11] < tcr> esden: Well, but that isn't actually necessary
[19:11] < daja77> tcr: the logs could be useful
[19:12] < tcr> esden: You don't want to log anything that isn't only sometimes in use... And for the seldom event there are filter programms that can be run against the log file
[19:12] < tcr> No automatism is needed for this... actually ;)
[19:13] < esden> we need the logs because of translations (at least jocelin wants to do the translation ... ) there will be none but ...
[19:13] < daja77> ack
[19:13] < esden> tcr: I have the whole infrastructure for automatic logging so it is no problem
[19:13] < n00kie> Can anyone help me with the nvidia drivers?
[19:13] < daja77> what's your problem with it
[19:13] < n00kie> I have buildet the nvidia drivers successfully, like capchaos said
[19:14] < n00kie> but when i "startx"
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[19:14] < n00kie> it says: "no screens found"
[19:14] < n00kie> what should i do?
[19:14] < daja77> n00kie: mail me your X config
[19:15] < n00kie> you mean xfree86.conf ?
[19:15] < tcr> esden: I also think that logs wouldn't be bad at all.. but I just say that the registration isn't really necessary. Actually want to save you off from work ;)
[19:15] < daja77> XFree86.cong
[19:15] < daja77> XFree86.conf
[19:15] < n00kie> yes
[19:15] < n00kie> it is the standard one
[19:15] < n00kie> i haven't edited that yet
[19:15] < daja77> yeah, mail that to me
[19:15] < esden> ok #rocklinux-talk registred ;-)
[19:16] < tcr> hmm, isn't stone quite capable of configuring X ?
[19:16] < n00kie> yes
[19:16] < n00kie> BUt capchaos said, i should not edit the conf
[19:16] < daja77> why?
[19:17] < n00kie> I don't know
[19:17] < n00kie> uhm
[19:17] < n00kie> How can I copy the xfree file?
[19:17] < tcr> Well there is a log file of X which error message can be handed over to google which mostly gives all information about the problem that's needed
[19:18] < n00kie> I have no X
[19:18] < n00kie> is there anyway to copy the "inhalt" to a webpage?
[19:18] < tcr> you have no X?? O_o
[19:19] < n00kie> no
[19:19] < tcr> why the hell do you try to run startx then?
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[19:19] < n00kie> because i have installed the drivers!!
[19:19] < n00kie> without the drivers it won't work!
[19:19] < _NULL> tcr: n00kie is a beginner!
[19:20] < daja77> n00kie: mail your X config to <rock@lospalmos.net> and I'll have a look at it
[19:20] < tcr> I can't see your reasoning.. 'startx' does, as the name indicates, start X ... why do you want to start X if you don't have X installed?
[19:21] < esden> tcr: please reply to the email of jocelin stating your censerns and tell that I registred the channel ...
[19:21] < tcr> esden: Ok.
[19:22] < esden> good
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[19:31] < tcr> brb
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[19:32] < esden> argh ... fscking shitt
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[19:32] < esden> hi Mike2
[19:33]   esden wants to take something apart at the moment
[19:33] < _NULL> esden: ???
[19:33] < daja77> esden: hope this doesn't have to do anything with polish blood *g*
[19:34] < daja77> Mike2: ?
[19:34] < esden> it has to do with dietlibc target, acl and attr in rocklinux
[19:34] < esden> clifford really wants to kill me
[19:35] < daja77> oh why that?
[19:36] < esden> he added acl support to rocklinux
[19:36] < daja77> *argh*
[19:36] < esden> and added a patch to coreutils
[19:36] < esden> that is enabling acl support in it
[19:36] < daja77> I thought devfs is worse enough
[19:36] < esden> and I can backwords patch it in the dietlibc target
[19:37] < esden> or get acl (and for acl needed attr library) running under dietlibc target
[19:37] < tfing> isn't it possible to disable the acl patch for the dietlibc target ?
[19:38] < esden> yes that would be a solution ... I thought about it
[19:38] < esden> but I think getting acl running under dietlibc would be nice
[19:39] < tfing> oh
[19:39] < tfing> but might represent quite some work
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[19:43] < n00kie> Hello!
[19:43] < n00kie> I have no tried to configure my config
[19:43] < n00kie> but when i type "startx"
[19:43] < n00kie> it says
[19:43] < n00kie> Fatal Server Error:
[19:44] < n00kie> Failed to initialize core devices
[19:44] < n00kie> What should I do?
[19:44] < esden> you done something wrong with mouse settings
[19:45] < n00kie> I took the default settings and selected ImPS/2
[19:45] < esden> check /var/log/XFree86.0.log what is wrong
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[19:46] < n00kie> I will look at this file!
[19:48] < n00kie> Oh
[19:48] < n00kie> I think I have the error!!
[19:48] < n00kie> It says
[19:48] < n00kie> Could not load xxxx*xxx (H SYNC OUT OF RANGE)
[19:49] < n00kie> What should i do?
[19:49] < n00kie> I dont know the hsync etc!
[19:50] < n00kie> Hey esden
[19:50] < esden> no idea
[19:50] < n00kie> My mouse is on ps2 port
[19:50] < n00kie> but it says
[19:50] < n00kie> cannot open devices /dev/mouse
[19:50] < n00kie> on debian i ever choosed /dev/psaux
[19:50] < n00kie> Should I try psaux?
[19:51] < _NULL> /dev/misc/psaux is the device
[19:51] < n00kie> /dev/mouse is the default one
[19:51] < n00kie> ok!
[19:52] < n00kie> How can I search something in vim?
[19:52] < _NULL> /word-to-search
[19:52] < n00kie> ah
[19:52] < n00kie> thank you!
[19:52] < _NULL> np
[19:55] < n00kie> So I should replace everything with /dev/mouse with /dev/misc/psaux ?
[19:57] < _NULL> n00kie: you have something like: Section "InputDevice"
[19:57] < esden> n00kie: yes
[19:57] < _NULL> (something which isn't commented out)
[19:57] < esden> or create a symlink in /dev from /dev/misc/psaux to /dev/mouse
[19:58] < esden> to make that permanent use /etc/config/devfs for example
[19:58] < esden> I think that is also possible with /etc/devfs.conf but do not ask me how
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[20:01] < n00kie_> Hello!
[20:01] < n00kie_> I got X work!!
[20:01] < n00kie_> But not complete!
[20:01] < n00kie_> When i start x
[20:01] < n00kie_> gnome 2.2 talks something about /etc/hosts file
[20:01] < n00kie_> and then i just can reset the computer!!
[20:01] < n00kie_> What should I do?
[20:02] < n00kie_> I will try again
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[20:07] < n00kie> Hello!
[20:07] < n00kie> The error comes again!!
[20:07] < esden> what does it say about /etc/hosts?
[20:07] < esden> probably you have to add your hostname to /etc/hosts
[20:08] < esden> or something is missing
[20:08] < n00kie> Ah
[20:08] < n00kie> There is
[20:08] < n00kie> localhost.localnet    localnet
[20:09] < n00kie> should I replace this with n0nsense.n00kie.dyndns.tv     n00kie.dyndns.tv ?
[20:09] < esden> nope
[20:09] < n00kie> ah
[20:09] < n00kie> hmm
[20:09] < esden> add a line
[20:09] < n00kie> Ah
[20:09] < n00kie> What line?
[20:10] < esden> some line matching your host
[20:10] < esden> or so
[20:10] < esden> but do not remove tho localhost setting
[20:10] < tcr> hmm X-men today on RTL
[20:10] < n00kie> ye
[20:10] < n00kie> s+
[20:10] < esden> 127.0.0.1 n0nsense
[20:10] < esden> or so
[20:10] < n00kie> tcr: Look it on ORF!!
[20:10] < n00kie> There is no advertisment
[20:11] < n00kie> ok esden
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[20:18] < n00kie_> My X is running!! :)
[20:18] < esden> good ;-)
[20:18]   n00kie_ is happy :)
[20:19]   esden away xman schaun
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[21:05] < _HulK_> hi all
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[21:12] < n00kie> Hi
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[21:15] < tsa> hi all
[21:16] < _NULL> hi tsa
[21:17] < n00kie> I have problems with mozilla!
[21:17] < capchaos> Use phoenix ;P
[21:17] < n00kie> wait
[21:17] < n00kie> I must know, what to enter in /etc/hosts
[21:18] < capchaos> echo "127.0.0.1 nookhost localhost" >> /etc/hosts
[21:19] < n00kie> i have done this
[21:19] < n00kie> Maybe I can use Gnome now?
[21:19] < n00kie> I will try!
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[21:22] < _HulK_> building the base packages is enough to build all packages?
[21:23] < _HulK_> i've started compiling under gentoo base distro(at stage3 only)
[21:23] < _HulK_> so i'm having compilation problems with kde, tetex, ...
[21:24] < _HulK_> i said hi all bros!
[21:24] < _HulK_> :P
[21:26] < capchaos> hi _HulK_
[21:26] < _HulK_> hi capchaos
[21:26] < _HulK_> you've read me?
[21:27] < capchaos> Why start at stage3 if it fails?
[21:27] < _HulK_> cause i've dial up conex
[21:28] < _HulK_> i mirrored to an HDD ROCK-1.7 at my job server
[21:29] < _HulK_> well
[21:30] < _HulK_> i think i must upgrade with needed packages
[21:31] < capchaos> maybe :)
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[22:27] < tsa> re
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[22:45] < n00kie> Hello!!
[22:45] < n00kie> Help me please
[22:45] < n00kie> When I wanna start phoenix
[22:45] < n00kie> it says
[22:45] < n00kie> n00kie:~/phoenix$
[22:45] < n00kie> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/phoenix-bin.
[22:46] < tsa> file /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/phoenix-bin ?
[22:46] < n00kie> n00kie:~/phoenix$ file /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/phoenix-bin
[22:46] < n00kie> /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/phoenix-bin: can't stat `/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/phoenix-bin' (No such file or directory)
[22:46] < n00kie> i think the mozilla bin is not in /usr/lib
[22:47] < n00kie> itit is on /usr/include/mozilla-1.3
[22:47] < n00kie> What should i do?
[22:47] < tsa> hm...i guess "phoenix" is a /bin/sh script?
[22:48] < tsa> probably sets MOZ_FIVE_HOME to the wrong directory
[22:49] < n00kie> oh
[22:49] < n00kie> hmm
[22:49] < n00kie> i have a problem with mozilla
[22:49] < n00kie> so i will use phoenix!
[22:49] < n00kie> when i wanna type a url in mozilla
[22:49] < tsa> (i don't have phoenix here, so i won't be able to verify your problem..)
[22:49] < n00kie> it does not reag anymore
[22:49] < n00kie> so i must kill mozilla-bin
[22:50] < n00kie> Do you know why?
[22:50] < tsa> sorry, i don't have any idea..
[22:50] < tsa> never used phoenix at all..
[22:52] < n00kie> hmm
[22:53] < n00kie> so i must use w3m
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[23:01] < daja77> re
[23:01] < n00kie> re daja77 :)
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[23:15] < Freak> reh
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[23:15] < daja77> hey Freak
[23:15] < daja77> hi tsa
[23:16] < tsa> hi daja77
[23:17] < tsa> *sigh*
[23:17] < daja77> ??
[23:17]   tsa downloading..
[23:17] < daja77> isdn?
[23:17] < tsa> no, dsl.
[23:17] < daja77> so do not complain :)
[23:17] < tcr> what downloading? Software Wife 7.0?
[23:18] < daja77> hehe tcr, still alive?
[23:18] < tsa> but when my download speed exceeds ~100k, t-offline thinks i'm unreachable and shuts down my connection.
[23:18] < tsa> i hate it.
[23:18] < daja77> huh, why that, telekom :(
[23:18] < tsa> i have no idea.
[23:18] < tcr> you reach 100kbit/s with tonline???
[23:18] < tsa> i should probably do all the download stuff at work.
[23:19] < tsa> tcr: yes.
[23:19] < tfing> hmm, strange, last tsa mail was a bit screwed up
[23:19] < tsa> "scrwed up"?
[23:19] < daja77> tsa: kick the pink panther in the ass
[23:20] < tsa> daja77: i'll do that ;)
[23:20] < tfing> it appeared from my own adress !?
[23:20] < tcr> Here it's entirely ok
[23:20] < tfing> a from field had been added at the top of the mail
[23:20] < tfing> i don't know how
[23:20] < tsa> strange.
[23:21]   daja77 hates to ring up the telekom...
[23:21] < tcr> Hrrm.. Local sys luser that calls itself an admin played at the sendmail configuration?
[23:21] < daja77> tcr: at your school?
[23:22] < tcr> I don't have problems with tsa mail
[23:22] < n00kie> i am on installing nvidia drivers
[23:22] < n00kie> when i am compiling them
[23:22] < n00kie> it says
[23:22] < n00kie> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]
[23:22] < n00kie> What does this mean?
[23:23] < tcr> You're trying to patch against a wrong version
[23:23] < tsa> did you modify anthing?
[23:23] < n00kie> no
[23:23] < n00kie> i just wanna install nforce drivers
[23:23] < n00kie> but i have installed other nvidia drivers
[23:23] < n00kie> for geforce4
[23:23] < n00kie> before
[23:23] < tcr> Hmm, maybe against the wrong version of linux sources? Or X sources?
[23:24] < tsa> jsut a small hint - new nvidia drivers have been released about 2 weeks ago.
[23:24] < daja77> tcr: you don't need X for nforce driver
[23:24] < tcr> "ok"
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[23:24] < tsa_> *arghs*
[23:25] < tsa_> i hate it.
[23:25] < tsa_> jsut a small hint - new nvidia drivers have been released about 2 weeks ago.
[23:25] < tcr> You said that already ;)
[23:25] < n00kie> daja77: I know
[23:25] < n00kie> But i installed already the x drivers
[23:25] < n00kie> now i wanna install nforce drivers
[23:25] < daja77> n00kie: I said it to tcr...
[23:25] < tsa_> i'm still testing them here, but they look good so far, so you might prefer to get them from nvidia and build them yourself.
[23:25] < n00kie> ah
[23:25] < tsa_> i'll probably send an update for the package within the next few days..
[23:26] < tcr> Hmm.. wasn't there some project on sf that implements a gpled version of nv drivers?
[23:26] < tsa_> utah-glx
[23:26] < tsa_> ?
[23:27] < tsa_> opensource, but slow.
[23:27] < tcr> "Our search servers are currently experiencing high load. Please try your search again later."
[23:27] < tsa_> utah-glx.sourceforge.net, probably..
[23:27] < tcr> Sf is terrible... that's so for the last weeks
[23:27] < tsa_> hehe
[23:27] < daja77> tcr: hint: they switched to db2...
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[23:29] < tcr> Well.. but I've trouble with the search engine for the last couple of weeks... They should get that fixed down now
[23:29] < daja77> they have sold their soul to ibm :(
[23:29] < tcr> hah.. worse than the evil! ;)
[23:31] < tsa> hm..i should not send mail to securityfocus mailing lists.
[23:32]   daja77 is pissed by the news, will switch tv off
[23:32]   tsa gets mail bounces since hours
[23:32] < daja77> why?
[23:32] < tsa> ~50 so far
[23:32] < daja77> *argh*
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[23:33] < tsa> daja77: a mail to the pen-test mailing list from me was approved by the moderator, and now i'm recieving all those out-of-office replies and mail bounces from people too dumb to unsubscribe when going on holiday or leaving the comapny..
[23:34] < tsa> (<- slightly annoyed)
[23:34] < daja77> fscking idiots
[23:34] < tsa> ack.
[23:35] < daja77> vacation mails are so damn stupid, only activted by stupid morons deserving to die >:->
[23:37] < tsa> ack (again)
[23:37] < tsa> i wonder what a mail to bugtraq will do to my poor inbox.. ;)
[23:37] < daja77> poor tsa
[23:38] < tsa> *G*
[23:39]   daja77 is waiting for the idiots at work asking him to do virus scans on that samba server again :(
[23:40] < tsa> hehe
[23:40] < daja77> they have the same 4 year old virus all the time, bastards
[23:41] < tsa> sounds familar...
[23:42] < tsa> they use outlook and exchange for their email stuff and wonder about viruses.. *sigh*
[23:42] < daja77> the infected files are binaries compiled from their own projects 8---)
[23:42] < tsa> oops ;)
[23:43] < daja77> yeah, not the usual outlook crap, but this fscking virus from their infected fscing binaries which the install every time from their fscking backups :(
[23:43] < tsa> heheeh
[23:44]   daja77 likes the idea of shutting the samba server down
[23:44]   tsa likes the idea of shutting the marketing guys down.
[23:45] < daja77> you that they are the first who'll be shot...
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[23:46] < A-Tui> hello friends
[23:47] < tsa> hi A-Tui
[23:47] < daja77> wb A-Tui
[23:47] < A-Tui> how are you tonight?
[23:48] < daja77> fine, just ranting with tsa about idiots :)
[23:48] < A-Tui> that's good :)
[23:48] < daja77> it helps
[23:49] < daja77> you are invited to join :)
[23:49] < A-Tui> well :)
[23:49] < A-Tui> i like it :)
[23:49] < daja77> go ahead
[23:50] < A-Tui> some hours ago i was in teathre
[23:51] < tsa> hm..i should move to hawaii and work at flex.com
[23:52] < daja77> tsa: huh?
[23:52] < tsa> daja77: bofh ISP there..
[23:52] < tsa> they don't do tech support at all.
[23:52] < daja77> wise men...
[23:53] < tsa> indeed ;)
[23:53] < daja77> blindcoder has to do such an evil job
[23:53] < tsa> poor boy.
[23:55] < esden> re hi all
[23:55] < esden> hehe ... I have a pub in the house ... is that cool
[23:55] < tsa> hi esden ;)
[23:55] < daja77> hey esden nice that you join us
[23:55] < esden> I did not know that till now ;-)
[23:55] < daja77> :)
[23:55]   esden feels bit "beschwippst"
[23:56]   daja77 too
[23:56] < tsa> hehe
[23:56]   tsa giggles
[23:56]   esden giggles too
[23:58]   daja77 kicks his table
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Mon Apr 14 00:00:12 2003