--- Log opened Wed Apr 16 00:00:05 2003 --- Day changed Wed Apr 16 2003 00:00 < Mike1> daja77: think about and let me know :) 00:00 < daja77> k 00:00 < daja77> when in august? 00:01 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 < Mike1> not sure yet, you should ask him 00:01 < daja77> :) 00:02 < Mike1> == 16:17:04 =[5]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2.2 1.7-snapshot]. 00:02 < Mike1> == 06:02:25 =[5]=> Building x11/libgd [2.0.12 1.7-snapshot]. 00:03 * daja77 will redo checkout and build after easter 00:03 < n00kie> Ahh :) 00:03 < n00kie> Now i have my lovely icewm again :) 00:03 < daja77> I'd prefer icecream 00:04 < n00kie> ehehe ;) 00:05 < rxr> argh 00:05 < rxr> wated too much time: 00:05 < rxr> == 00:06:42 =[1]=> Building base/curl [7.10.4 1.7-snapshot]. 00:05 < rxr> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 00:05 < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.curl.1050444401.28544.529914676 00:05 < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-curl.out 00:05 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-curl.out -> 1-curl.log 00:05 < rxr> == 04/16/03 00:08:18 =[1]=> Finished building package curl. 00:05 < rxr> but finally ... 00:05 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082DF9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:05 < tsa> hi 00:05 < daja77> hi tsa 00:05 < Mike1> rxr: ? 00:05 < Mike1> hi tsa 00:06 < rxr> fixed curl after your update ... 00:06 < rxr> ;-) 00:06 < tsa> can anyone give estimate build times for this one: 00:06 < tsa> model name : AMD Duron(tm) processor 00:07 < tsa> cpu MHz : 1202.710 00:07 < tsa> bogomips : 2392.13 00:07 < daja77> tsa: what is it's label? 00:07 < tsa> label? 00:07 < daja77> 1800XP, 1500blah 00:07 < rxr> tsa: build time of what? 00:07 < rxr> full build? 00:07 < tsa> rxr: yes. 00:08 < rxr> how much ram? which disk interface ;-) ? 00:08 < rxr> rebuild stage? 00:08 < rxr> root:/home/rene/develop/rock/rock-src-1.7-rxr# patch -p1 < /hack 00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/curl/configure-mess.patch 00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/curl/curl.conf 00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/sed/no-cross-check.patch 00:08 < rxr> patching file package/base/sed/sed.conf 00:08 < tsa> daja77: uh...no idea...this is a machine at work i'm currently using to test some stuff..and because mainly it does just sit there, i've decided to try a new cvs build. 00:08 < rxr> so finary the cross stage is functional ;-) 00:09 < tsa> 256mb. 00:09 < tsa> with stage 9. 00:09 < daja77> more than 2 days 00:09 < rxr> hm 3-4 days (pi*thumb estimation ...) 00:09 < tsa> local disk is ide, but i'm building on an nfs volume, so i'll probably have to add some more hours.. 00:10 < rxr> ach for NFS ... 00:10 < tsa> ;) 00:10 < daja77> rxr: btw, I now got an new board, via kt400 but it works now :) 00:10 * tsa considers doing a cluster build when we get some new machines.. 00:10 < rxr> hehe 00:11 < Mike1> rxr: btw no more furter update patches will be received from me again 00:11 < esden> ahh ... pizza yum yum 00:11 < esden> hi rxr 00:11 < Mike1> esden: enjoy my friend :) 00:11 < tsa> rxr: already sent a mail to cliff, but you might want to think about this, too: we have a small problem with the current version of mktemp .. 00:12 < tsa> build scripts need "mktemp -p", which exists in 1.4, but not in 1.5 00:12 < tsa> current version in cvs is 1.5, thus making rock builds on rock-1.7-cvs impossible. 00:12 < tsa> perhaps we should use 1.4 again. 00:13 < daja77> -p was a temporary feature I guess 00:13 < tsa> i'm not sure about this - but at least the paranoia checks are complaining.. 00:14 < tsa> (build system is RH8.0, so i would expect this problem with many people that are new to ROCk. 00:14 < tsa> ) 00:15 < daja77> tsa: rh8 has an old mktemp 00:15 * daja77 knows that problem ;) 00:15 < daja77> read: mktemp < 1.4 00:15 < tsa> # rpm -q mktemp 00:15 < tsa> mktemp-1.5-16 00:15 < tsa> # cat /etc/redhat-release 00:15 < tsa> Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) 00:16 < daja77> tsa: huh, rh8 was before mktemp 1.5 00:16 < tsa> (updated in regard to all currently available Rh patches) 00:16 < daja77> anyway installing 1.4 from sources should do the trick 00:17 < tsa> hehe...i already did that...but since the "-p" option seems to be EOL'd, we should try to get rid of it.. 00:17 < rxr> hm 00:18 < rxr> I just rebuild mktmep locally 00:18 < rxr> it still works ... 00:18 < rxr> maybe you still call the old mktemp since one is in /bin and the other in /usr/bin ? 00:19 < daja77> mktemp should be in /bin 00:19 < tsa> only /bin/mktemp available.. 00:19 < Mike1> n8 all 00:19 < rxr> oot:/home/rock-linux/rock-1.7# which mktemp 00:19 < rxr> /usr/bin/mktemp 00:20 < rxr> tsa have you already build ROCK mktemp into your host system= 00:20 < rxr> seems like redhad is removing the feature in the rpm ... 00:20 < tsa> rxr: no - i took the 1.4 source and compiled it by hand.. 00:20 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:20 < daja77> redhat is doin weird things to packages sometimes 00:21 < rxr> the options seems to be still available in the 1.5 version 00:21 < tsa> indeed ;-)) 00:21 < tsa> hm... 00:21 < daja77> rule number three never look at the rh dependencies *urgs* 00:21 < tsa> /bin/mktemp on RH vs. /usr/bin/mktemp on Rock..i wonder which one is correct. 00:22 < tsa> rule number one: "avoid RH"? ;) 00:22 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:22 < daja77> no rule number one was different as I told blindcoder already ;) 00:23 < tsa> hm.. 00:23 < tsa> *yawn* 00:23 * tsa needs holiday. 00:23 < daja77> look it up in yesterday's log if you like 00:23 * daja77 needs sleep 00:24 * daja77 runs into bed, n8 00:24 < tsa> cu daja77 00:25 < daja77> cu tsa :) 00:26 < n00kie> bye daja77 :) 00:26 < n00kie> Sleep well 00:27 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-080-056.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("having fun somewhere else, cu") 00:30 < n00kie> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. 00:30 < n00kie> Hmm 00:30 < n00kie> But I have QT 3.1 installed 00:32 < rxr> where do you get this ? 00:32 < n00kie> When I wanna configure icecc 00:33 < rxr> the qt checks are often quite uninteligent 00:33 < n00kie> Hmm 00:33 < rxr> try --with-qt=$path-to-qt 00:34 < rxr> ot --qith-qt-headers= ... 00:34 < rxr> or how it is named there ... 00:34 < n00kie> QT is on /opt/qt ? 00:34 < rxr> in ROCK it is in /opt/qt31 ... 00:34 < n00kie> ok 00:34 < rxr> when the app is not written for qt-3.x (only for qt-2.x) it is likely that it will not compile ... 00:35 < n00kie> But there is >QT 2.2.2 00:36 < n00kie> hmm 00:36 < n00kie> Is there anyway to show all apps, that qt is on /opt/qt31 ? 00:51 < rxr> no - each app has an other flanky configure script ... 00:58 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 01:03 < Caspar> hi - whats the problem with sed ? 01:05 < Caspar> ah - i see - rxr you did a patch already .. is this already in CVS ? 01:14 < tsa> n8 01:14 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082DF9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 01:48 < esden> n8 02:05 < n00kie> sleep well esden 02:25 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A683.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:35 < rxr> n8 02:35 < fake> grrr... 02:36 < n00kie> sleep well rxr 02:39 -!- kasc_ [~kasc@p50909634.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:31 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:49 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M117P018.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04:35 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@N297P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:15 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A683.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:19 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 05:19 < demian> hi 06:04 < fake> hi 06:52 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, ringo78, tibit, demian, huebi, capchaos, aszlig, vectrax, SMP 06:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: demian, ringo78, tibit, rolla, capchaos, huebi, aszlig, vectrax, SMP 07:21 < demian> haha, quake is wonderful.. none has reach me neither at the middle of my fraks 07:21 < demian> cya 07:21 -!- demian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 07:30 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A4EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:01 -!- CAP7252 [ircap72@geo1.fisapl.uv.es] has quit (" IRcap 7.2 https://www.ircap.net !") 08:26 < blindcoder> fain brart= 08:50 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: capchaos 08:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: capchaos 08:53 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, kasc 08:53 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: capchaos 08:54 -!- Netsplit over, joins: capchaos 08:56 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A4EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:56 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:13 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p50801860.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:31 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F9C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:34 < ringo78> moin all(e). 09:34 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 09:49 < _NULL> morning 09:57 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:03 < _NULL> hi n00kie 10:42 < blindcoder> hi _NULL 10:42 < _NULL> hi blindcoder 10:43 < blindcoder> _NULL: do you know if caffeeine in high concontration in human bodies is poisonous? 10:45 < _NULL> blindcoder: it is... but you need at least 20 gramms of caffeine 10:45 < blindcoder> I have 250 rams of Espresso Beans here... 10:45 < blindcoder> s/rams/grams/ 10:45 < blindcoder> should be sufficient 10:45 < blindcoder> you'll find me next to my new coffee machine 10:45 < _NULL> blindcoder: don't do shit!!! 10:46 < blindcoder> I don't do shit, I just drink espresso 10:48 < capchaos> > 10:48 < capchaos> Nice symptoms 10:48 < blindcoder> *click* 10:50 < blindcoder> sweet.. I already have 4 of the symptoms after 2 cups of coffeee 10:52 < blindcoder> hmm... 10:52 < blindcoder> infants don't seem to die from caffeeine... 10:52 < _NULL> blindcoder: that's not funny ! 10:53 < _NULL> and - i guess you will get "bauchschmerzen and uebelkeit" - and won't die 10:53 < blindcoder> according to that page it is so! 10:53 < _NULL> blindcoder: according to my experiences with much caffeine, it's also so. 10:54 < capchaos> caffeine is addictive 10:54 < blindcoder> hmm... I usually don't have any coffee monday through friday due to lack of cofee machine @work 10:55 < blindcoder> and the last 3 weeks I had no coffee at all due to sleeping-to-long-to-have-breakfast-and-would-have-to-make-coffe-myself 10:55 < blindcoder> but with that new coffeee machine all that will change! 10:56 < capchaos> yea, you'll get addictive and die of coffeine consumption? 10:56 * blindcoder pumping espresso up to to 8 fine-grained espresso-beans 10:57 < blindcoder> unfortunately the machine can't do more 10:57 * capchaos going to have some tea 10:58 < _NULL> capchaos: you're addicted to tea ;p 10:58 < capchaos> coffein has a better affect in the evening ;) 10:58 < capchaos> _NULL, fruit tea can't really make you addictive 10:58 < _NULL> capchaos: hmmm... 11:03 < blindcoder> capchaos: that site is interesting 11:03 < blindcoder> finally I know what the twitching of my eelid is 11:03 < blindcoder> https://www.1uphealth.com/health/fasciculations_of_muscle_info.html 11:05 < _NULL> blindcoder: if you really want to die, then there are simpler methods and not as painful as caffeine must be 11:05 < blindcoder> death by caffeeine is a worthy death of a "Computer Freak" like me 11:06 < _NULL> blindcoder: gnaaa! nope!!! 11:06 < blindcoder> but if you insist, there's a "Autobahn-Bruecke" nearby 11:06 < _NULL> not sure that you will die. 11:06 < blindcoder> oh, you don't know the traffic on the A9 11:07 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:07 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has quit (Client Quit) 11:07 < _NULL> a skyscraper or train would be better... or take a bath with ice-cold water (and crushed ice inside) and take your arms inside it. after that take a razor blade /knife which is _really_ sharp - and then cut your venes. and cut _correct_ 11:08 < _NULL> nobody can help you, if you 're "ausbluten" to death - if you cut your venes up correct. 11:09 < kasc> its still possible, but should be done during the first few seconds... 11:09 < blindcoder> sounds messy 11:10 < kasc> as a rule of thumb you have about 10-20 secs to decide ;) 11:10 < kasc> btw: moin :) 11:10 < _NULL> hi kasc 11:10 < blindcoder> moin kasc 11:11 < kasc> hope rock will make it soon to 2.0 11:11 < _NULL> 10 - 20 secs to decide what? 11:11 < kasc> _NULL: to decide if you really want to die 11:12 < kasc> or my postponed_games folder will burst... 11:12 < _NULL> hmmm... cutting the venes only takes 10 - 20 seconds? of did i get you wrong? 11:12 < blindcoder> _NULL: no, you have 10-20 secs to decide whether ot stop the bleeding or not 11:12 < blindcoder> after that time it's too late to stop it 11:13 < _NULL> aha. and how long does it take, to die finally? 11:13 < kasc> several minutes 11:13 < _NULL> hrm... are they painful or don't you "mitbekommen" pain? 11:14 * blindcoder getting his 3rd and 4th coffee. brb 11:15 < kasc> not sure... if it is like "erfrieren" you will feel comfy and warm. You should not look at your bleeding arms, tho 11:15 < _NULL> hrm. 11:15 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:15 < kasc> if you are lucky you might loose consciousness soon 11:16 < _NULL> hmmm... doesn't sound bad to me 11:17 < _NULL> nobody would cry "um mich"... 11:18 < kasc> its a terrible mess to clean up afterwards 11:18 < _NULL> my job will - as i guess - be my "ex-job"... company seems to be bancrupt maybe soon... 11:18 < _NULL> why not doing? nothing against it 11:18 < _NULL> kasc: then it's not my problem anymore 11:19 < kasc> you should at least do it in a easy cleaneable place like under the shower. 11:20 < _NULL> kasc: a knife/razor blade which is wet, isn't easy to hold 11:21 < kasc> but it will feel better when you are wet when the blood starts dripping down on you 11:21 < kasc> IMO committing suicide is the most cowardly way to end a life... 11:21 < _NULL> why should it feel better? 11:22 < _NULL> why? 11:24 * blindcoder back 11:24 < kasc> committing suicide is a simple option. You dont have to face any problems afterwards 11:24 < capchaos> kasc, what about running amok? 11:24 < _NULL> kasc: i don't care after it. 11:24 < blindcoder> yeah, that's why it's so fascinating 11:24 < _NULL> s/it/death 11:24 < blindcoder> capchaos: you need a weapon for that 11:24 < blindcoder> and weapons tend to run out of ammo 11:24 < kasc> capchaos: that has at least an excitement factor in it ;) 11:25 < blindcoder> it's not like you find ammo in the toilet of a cinema or something 11:25 * _NULL np: blutengel - i'm dying alone (and: "von einem schaeferhund angefressen bevor die leiche gefunden wird) 11:25 < kasc> _NULL: and exactly that is the point ;) 11:26 < kasc> running and hiding from problems is a cowardly way of not having to face them 11:26 < _NULL> kasc: i don't care anymore! 11:27 < blindcoder> kasc: what about having faced them a dozen times and lost to a dozen times? 11:27 < esden> hi ho 11:27 < blindcoder> moin again, esden :) 11:27 < _NULL> hi esden 11:27 < _NULL> blindcoder: full ack. 11:27 < kasc> blindcoder: life tends to face you with similar problems until you have learned the lesson 11:27 < esden> hmm ... strange I have no headake ... 11:27 < _NULL> blindcoder: it's non-sense, is it? 11:27 < kasc> moin esden 11:28 * blindcoder smacks esden over the head... still no headache? 11:28 < esden> autsch 11:28 < blindcoder> _NULL: Zero said it once very precise: "Life sucks, and hten you die." 11:29 < _NULL> blindcoder: he is right. 11:29 < esden> *sigh* 11:29 < blindcoder> _NULL: although I hate admitting _him_ to be right ;) 11:29 < _NULL> dead. after that theire are worms you're eaten by 11:30 < blindcoder> Q: how long does it take UPS to taek a package halfway through Germany? 11:30 < esden> life is cool ... /me reading IT-Security book ... gathering knowledge is cool ... and worth living 11:30 < kasc> esden: full ack 11:31 < _NULL> esden: IT != life 11:31 < _NULL> knowledge is nothing. and look at the fscking "wirtschaftliche lage" - then you can begin to cry without ending 11:31 < blindcoder> esden: I know enough about computers to be called a "Computer Freak" by people who don't know me after I spoke 2 sentences with them that had absolutely _nothing_ to do with electronical devices of any kind 11:32 < _NULL> blindcoder: it's better than visiting a cinema and being called "computer asshole" - by people you never had spoken with! 11:32 < blindcoder> and it's not really something I'm proud of 11:33 < blindcoder> _NULL: it sums up to the same 11:33 < _NULL> yes, it does. 11:33 * blindcoder hands _NULL a good espresso 11:33 < _NULL> blindcoder: nope. thx. 11:34 * _NULL prefers endorphine 11:34 < kasc> _NULL: chocolate? 11:34 < _NULL> kasc: nope. 11:35 < ringo78> blindcoder: here here !!! 11:36 * blindcoder hands the espresso over to ringo78 and tells his machine to make another one :) 11:36 < _NULL> blindcoder: the 6th? 11:37 < blindcoder> _NULL: no, still busy with 3 and 4 11:37 < _NULL> blindcoder: k. 11:38 < ringo78> blindcoder: thanks ! Beter then that dissolve-coffee over here ;-) 11:39 < blindcoder> hehe 11:39 * capchaos wants Anarchy 11:39 * blindcoder has a feeling that the 250 gramms of Espresso Beans won't last long 11:39 * _NULL wants death 11:40 < ringo78> chocolate is a bad substitute to create endorphines :-) 11:40 < blindcoder> yeah, but for some people there's nothing else to create some 11:40 < capchaos> _NULL, death is boring, nothing comes after it 11:40 < _NULL> capchaos: and that is, what is cool 11:41 < _NULL> blindcoder: creating what? 11:41 < capchaos> _NULL, endorphines 11:41 < blindcoder> _NULL: "Gluecks-Hormone" 11:42 < _NULL> how to create them? (except the one method i know) 11:42 * capchaos wants to create endorphines.. any woman willing to share? 11:42 < blindcoder> 11:40 < ringo78> chocolate is a bad substitute to create endorphines :-) 11:42 < blindcoder> _NULL: chocolate! 11:42 < _NULL> blindcoder: doesn't really work (at least for me) 11:43 < kasc> _NULL: perhaps eating noodles might help 11:43 < kasc> you wont get endorphines that way but serotronine which does about the same 11:44 < _NULL> kasc: hmmmm 11:44 < ringo78> 0to9 hmmm trye bungeeing 11:44 < _NULL> guess i get enough serotonine per day... 11:51 < blindcoder> kasc: what's the matter vith clanlib? 11:54 < blindcoder> == 11:50:24 =[9]=> Building kasc/clanlib [0.6.5-1 1.7-snapshot]. 11:55 < kasc> blindcoder: the sources from the tarball need some fixing and the cvs server is most unstable 11:56 < blindcoder> kasc: why not do it like I did with koules? I couldn't get the [D] right, so I just did a manual cvs co, made a tarball from it, put it on my webserver, and be done with it? 11:56 < blindcoder> as soon as it's on hte ROCK mirrors, delete the file again 11:57 < kasc> i have no webserver 11:57 < blindcoder> okay, that's a problem 11:58 < kasc> but i will resubmit it soon. pingus has been released today and i simply love it :) 11:58 < blindcoder> hehe 11:58 < blindcoder> I want to try out Fall, so I need ClanLib, too 11:59 < blindcoder> == 04/16/03 11:59:50 =[9]=> Finished building package clanlib. 11:59 < kasc> anyway i think we should now concentrate on making rock stable now before adding new packages... 12:00 < blindcoder> by just updating to 0.6.5-1 12:00 < blindcoder> there's a tar.gz for that... 12:01 < kasc> from what i heard on the mailinglist clanlib is currently under heavy development. both, 0.6 and 0.7 12:02 < blindcoder> hmm 12:02 < blindcoder> well, it compiles fine here, at least... 12:03 < kasc> the question is: do the progs you want to link against it compile, too? ;) 12:04 < blindcoder> haven't tried yet.\ 12:05 < blindcoder> no, because the game needs 0.7.2 *argh* 12:05 < blindcoder> blindy... read, before you do anything... 12:06 < kasc> hehe 12:07 < blindcoder> dammit... somethign is wrong with this cup 12:07 < blindcoder> the coffee in it has dissolved again... 12:07 < kasc> thats just another thing i dislike with clanlib: from 0.6 to 0.7 it has got totally rewritten but 0.7 has by far not the capabilities of 0.6, yet 12:08 < blindcoder> erm... what justifies the new version number then? 12:09 < blindcoder> If there's a higher version number, I expect the capabilities to have a) become more reliable b) more or c) both 12:11 < kasc> from what i read on the ml it is as with the kernel: even version numbers are supposed to be stable, odd version numbers are development versions 12:11 < blindcoder> hmm... I see... 12:11 < blindcoder> so it's Fall's fault to have used 0.7.2 :) 12:12 < kasc> yep ;) 12:23 < blindcoder> GAH 12:23 < blindcoder> CL wants to set up GLX even if there is no GLX extension on selected DISPLAY 12:28 < esden> urgh ... I do not want to drive to IN ... *sigh* 12:28 < blindcoder> esden: why? 12:29 < esden> because that means that I have to shower ... to go to my car and drive ... and then in the evening back ... that is _work_ 12:30 < kasc> LOL!! from a configure --help: 12:30 * -> esden is too lazy for that 12:30 < kasc> --disable-target-opt Enable target specific optimizations 12:30 * -> esden getting a shower 12:54 * -> esden -> off to IN 12:54 < esden> cu guys 12:54 < _NULL> bye esden 12:55 < blindcoder> hehe 12:55 < blindcoder> who said, free ringtones are dead? 12:55 < blindcoder> only drawback: the site is .cz 13:02 < _NULL> blindcoder: it depends on the phone imho 13:03 < blindcoder> Nokia, Siemens, anything that can understand .mid 13:03 < _NULL> hmmm.... 13:04 < blindcoder> https://www.redboss.cz/cz/tones/ 13:04 < _NULL> thx 13:06 < n00kie> hey blindcoder 13:06 < n00kie> Heyja _NULL :) 13:07 < blindcoder> hi n00kie 13:07 < _NULL> hi n00kie - finally you're awake... 13:08 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:27 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dhcp-153-96-232-25.iwu.fhg.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:27 < daja77> moin 13:27 < _NULL> hi daja77 13:27 < daja77> hi _NULL 13:38 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < capchaos> hi daja77, hi A-Tui 13:41 < A-Tui> hola capchaos! 13:43 < capchaos> Hole mi amigo 13:43 < _NULL> hi A-Tui 13:44 < _NULL> hole? hola you mean, i guess... (?) 13:44 < A-Tui> hi _NULL 13:44 < A-Tui> capchaos: hi my friend! 13:45 < capchaos> Si, grande buho ;) 13:45 < capchaos> @_NULL 13:46 < _NULL> capchaos: buho? 13:46 < A-Tui> XDD 13:46 < capchaos> :) 13:46 < A-Tui> buho it's a nigth bird :) 13:46 < _NULL> *ggg* 13:46 < capchaos> *g* 13:46 < daja77> hey all 13:46 < A-Tui> hi daja77 13:47 * daja77 is bughunting :( 13:47 < _NULL> <-- too... in c# *cries* 13:47 < daja77> in daemons, *puke* 13:48 < _NULL> daja77: have fun 13:49 < daja77> *har har har* 13:49 < _NULL> :p 13:53 < A-Tui> any tools to convert a pdf document to Tex file? 13:53 < daja77> very unlikely 13:54 < daja77> I hate it, statements like this: At the moment, it's only available as a Debian package 13:54 * A-Tui thinks daja77 hates debian :) 13:54 < daja77> A-Tui: yes I do 13:54 < capchaos> daja77, they probably want to say "we need to hide some bad workarounds and make a debian package so noone sees it" 13:55 < A-Tui> daja77: debian people are generally intolerant! 13:55 < daja77> anyway as source is there, I don't care much 14:08 -!- swede [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:08 -!- swede is now known as [anders] 14:08 -!- [anders] [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:10 < daja77> A-Tui: I know, that's why I try to avoid them 14:10 -!- [anders] [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:11 < [anders]> lo folks 14:11 < daja77> hi [anders] 14:11 < [anders]> hullo daja77 14:11 < A-Tui> daja77: yes, it should be a good reason ;) 14:12 < _NULL> hi [anders] 14:12 < daja77> [anders]: hope ibm can hold up your connection *vbeg* 14:12 < [anders]> lo _NULL 14:12 < [anders]> daja77: I am sure it can.. xchat seems a bit unstable when pasting things into it.. 14:13 < [anders]> _NULL: how are things then? 14:13 < _NULL> [anders]: hm. horrible. even more horrible then before... and at you? 14:14 < [anders]> _NULL: not too bad.. been learning lots about kdb yesterday and today.. 14:14 < [anders]> trying to chase down a kernel bug.. :-( 14:14 < _NULL> [anders]: have fun then 14:14 < [anders]> well, yes.. I am trying. :) 14:14 < _NULL> :p 14:15 < daja77> [anders]: welcome to bughunter's guild ;) 14:15 < [anders]> this bug is intriguing.. when a particular process exits, there is a chance of a race condition. If triggered, it will literally halt the machine it runs on. 14:16 < daja77> d'oh, what machine you are working on? 14:16 < [anders]> and writing down the oops messages by hand to transfer to other machines takes long time. 14:16 < [anders]> daja77: is is a X342 IBM server with 4GB RAM.. 14:17 < daja77> ooops trace by hand btdt for freebsd *g* 14:18 < blindcoder> [anders]: serial console? 14:18 < blindcoder> [anders]: console on line printer? 14:18 < blindcoder> *bad joke, I know* 14:18 < [anders]> blindcoder: we have the four boxes hooked up via serial consoles now.. 14:18 < [anders]> more or less a pre-req for kdb 14:19 < blindcoder> [anders]: can't you catch the oops there? 14:19 < blindcoder> [anders]: that's what I did when my machine started oopsing regularly. 14:19 < [anders]> problem we are facing is that we don't know if the bug can be triggered when we are running a kernel with kdb enabled. timings can be diffrent and make the bug impossible to trigger.. :-? 14:19 < [anders]> blindcoder: yeh.. serial consoles make life a lot easier.. 14:21 < [anders]> another problem we are facing is that although our first re-create took only about three hours, that is no guarantee that the next one will take that little time.. 14:22 < blindcoder> hmm 14:23 * [anders] grumbles about how long it takes to set the damned test-stand up for this recreate.. 14:23 < daja77> hi blindcoder :) 14:24 < [anders]> I wasted more or less the whole of yesterday to build a kernel and the product itself just to find out that the kernel I had built would oops when bringing up the lo interface. (Which is a difffrent opps altogether..) 14:24 < [anders]> The preparations this morning only took four hours though.. Which was better, but still not altogether good. 14:26 < rolla> re 14:27 < [anders]> lo rolla 14:27 < daja77> hi rolla 14:27 < [anders]> rolla: long time no type.. /me been so busy at work I had to leave off IRC completely.. 14:30 < blindcoder> kasc: I'm not entirely sure if pingus would go into ROCK... 14:30 < rolla> true [anders] 14:31 < daja77> license issue? 14:32 < blindcoder> daja77: no, GPL. But it needs its own version of ClanLib with its own patchset and this one is not distributed with pingus' source 14:32 * _NULL jumping around: project finished! :))) 14:33 < blindcoder> I currently have /opt/clanlib-0.7.2 /opt/clanlib-0.6.5 and /opt/clanlib-0.6.5-pingus 14:33 < blindcoder> or we could use the binary distribution of pingus which only is there for x86 14:33 < daja77> blindcoder: but we could package that clanlib version seperately 14:33 < blindcoder> yeah, that's what I did 14:33 < blindcoder> but then we're back where we started with bdb 14:34 < blindcoder> 3 version of the same lib 14:34 < daja77> _NULL: btw, what is that for a project 14:34 < blindcoder> some of them only used in a single package 14:34 < _NULL> daja77: sorry. not allowed to tell you 14:35 < daja77> _NULL: no details just the big goal 14:35 < blindcoder> daja77: the german pendant to Carnivore :D 14:35 < capchaos> (top secret) 14:35 < daja77> blindcoder: bad, dunno what to do against it 14:35 < daja77> hehe 14:35 < _NULL> daja77: nope 14:35 < blindcoder> daja77: well, I personally don't care, but I think Clifford will reject it and rxr will start a huge discussion about different versions of the same package :) 14:36 < daja77> well there is nothing to discuss execpt if we want the games or not 14:36 < daja77> _NULL: shy? 14:36 < _NULL> daja77: who? 14:36 < blindcoder> daja77: IIRC we hat that exact situation with bdb 14:36 < _NULL> :p 14:36 < daja77> _NULL: you 14:37 < _NULL> daja77: why? 14:37 < daja77> _NULL: ashamed of telling me 14:37 < _NULL> daja77: nope. has nothing to do with being shy or not. 14:38 < _NULL> wtf is there no "bonus" for finished projects for azubis *grrrr* 14:38 < blindcoder> daja77: I can't do `cvs up` in my ROCK tree anymore since it would completely destroy it :/ 14:38 < daja77> _NULL: because it is top secret, a bonus raises questions *vbeg* 14:38 < blindcoder> tons of changes that either noone else needs or that aren't "clean" 14:39 < _NULL> daja77: :ppp 14:39 < daja77> blindcoder: .oO 14:39 < tfing> blindcoder: cvs up does not change the files you have modified eh 14:40 < blindcoder> tfing: yes it does. it tries to, at least 14:40 < tfing> it keeps the part you have modified 14:40 < daja77> *argh* why I am on an idiot's mailinglist 14:40 < blindcoder> tfing: it tries to merge the changes between local and remote version 14:40 < blindcoder> daja77: do I have to comment on this :D 14:40 < tfing> yes but i won't overwrite the parts you have modified 14:41 < daja77> blindcoder: nope, and I was put on it, not vice versa 14:41 < blindcoder> tfing: hmm... well, my experience is different... but okay, maybe I've configured cvs wrong 14:41 < tfing> strange 14:41 < tfing> just as long as you don't do a cvs up -C it should be ok 14:42 < blindcoder> usually I do -Pd 14:44 < tfing> i'll stop arguing cause i might be completely wrong :) 14:44 < daja77> *rof* https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hob-16.04.03-000/ 14:44 < daja77> l 14:44 < tfing> but i can't remember having had problems with overwritten changes 14:45 < tfing> daja77: they have "lost" a sql db ? 14:46 < daja77> a, thousands, muhahahaha 14:46 < tfing> :) 14:48 < daja77> thousands of annoyed customers, but hey only the stupid stayed with strato anyway 14:54 < blindcoder> oh... "Implicit declaration of getpaylistpos()"... hmm... does anyone else think that this doesn't really matter? :) 14:54 < blindcoder> getplaylistpos() even 14:54 < daja77> blindcoder: this indicates a missing header include 14:55 < blindcoder> daja77: yes. It's caused by my XMMS-Patch... 14:55 < blindcoder> but it works, so I'm fine with it :) 14:56 < daja77> blindcoder: this is bad, someone could have problems with that bug, it will be hard to trace then 14:57 < blindcoder> :( bah.. /me grep'ing through XMMS' *.h files 14:58 < daja77> :) 15:09 < A-Tui> bye bye, food :) cu all 15:09 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 15:11 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M112P010.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:14 < daja77> hey Caspar 15:14 < _NULL> hi Caspar 15:15 < Caspar> hi 15:16 < Caspar> i've just tried to compile a bootdisk target ... 15:16 < Caspar> but it fails at stage 5 15:17 < _NULL> at stage 5??? for me it fails with coreutils, sed... and after that with almost ever other package... at least it was so, in a CVS from some days ago... 15:17 < _NULL> which system are you building at? 15:18 < Caspar> mv: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libattr.so.1: file too short 15:18 < Caspar> i've applied rene's patch already 15:18 < Caspar> this fixes sed and curl 15:18 < _NULL> Caspar: ah. k. thx. 15:19 < blindcoder> file too short? looks like it isn't a symlink or the symlink'ed file is corrupt 15:19 < Caspar> my problem with coreutils has been fixed with an recent cvs checkout - i dontknow why 15:21 * blindcoder hasn't updated to coreutils yet, since it would mean adopting two of his own patching he's quite fond of 15:24 -!- [anders] [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 15:26 < daja77> *shake head* about ibm :) 15:27 < Caspar> package attr builds fine ... 15:27 < _NULL> daja77: ??? 15:28 < daja77> _NULL: anders connection has been killed again 15:29 < _NULL> daja77: ah so 15:31 * capchaos gets _NULL a strong coffee :P 15:32 < _NULL> capchaos: nope. thx. i prefer tea :p 15:32 < daja77> capchaos: *shake head*, still don't know that she don't like coffee 15:32 < daja77> _NULL: which tea you like 15:32 < _NULL> daja77: with fruits. or better: apple-tea :) 15:33 < daja77> _NULL: so you don't go for the real stuff 15:33 < _NULL> daja77: like what? 15:33 < capchaos> daja77, who cares whether she likes coffee or not :P 15:34 < daja77> capchaos: don't ask me... 15:34 < _NULL> capchaos: eh!!! 15:34 < capchaos> _NULL has to stay awake at work, so.. ;) 15:34 < _NULL> capchaos: *kick* 15:34 < capchaos> *aua* 15:34 < daja77> _NULL: imported english tea :) 15:34 < _NULL> i'm awake. (or something similar) 15:35 < _NULL> english tea... no, thx 15:35 < daja77> don't like it, then don't worry 15:37 < Caspar> oh - i've found an error - does anybody know what's this means: ../../install-sh: line 377: 17479 Bus error (core dumped) $CP $sol 15:37 < Caspar> ib $install_name 15:38 < Caspar> in package attr 15:47 < Caspar> :( 15:47 < daja77> Caspar: can you reproduce that error on a different machine? 15:50 < Caspar> i'll try 16:04 * daja77 is desparated by rtai's black magic 16:05 * blindcoder is desperated by some peoples' narrow-minded point of view 16:05 < daja77> blindcoder: ?? 16:05 < blindcoder> or, to be more exacty, the developers of pingus narrow-minded PoV 16:05 < daja77> what did they tell you 16:06 < blindcoder> "Changing ClanLib to make it compatible with pingus is okay, since nobody uses the things our patches change." 16:06 < daja77> huh? 16:07 < blindcoder> After one hour of fscking around I finally managed to install clanlib-0.6.5-pingus in its own directory and make pingus use that specific version 16:07 < blindcoder> yes, they disable a "close"-button on windows in ClanLib 16:07 < daja77> *argh* 16:07 < blindcoder> exactly my thoughts 16:08 < daja77> tell them that they should put more efforts in being included in distributions, otherwise they'll not distributed at all 16:09 < blindcoder> well, I don't care. I created a ROCK package clanlib-0.6.5-pingus and a ROCK package pingus now 16:09 < blindcoder> it works 16:09 < daja77> they don't deserve distribution... 16:09 < blindcoder> point is: they don't want pingus to be distributed. At least they don't want distros to use their source but their binary which is statically linked 16:09 < daja77> why that 16:10 < blindcoder> no idea. It's what I've been told. 16:10 < blindcoder> After half an hour of discussion I didn't really have energy left to ask. 16:10 < daja77> hmm, welcome to binary only world *puke* 16:10 < daja77> blindcoder: on irc? 16:11 < blindcoder> yes 16:11 < daja77> here on freenode 16:11 < blindcoder> #gametome 16:11 < blindcoder> but nevermind 16:11 < daja77> don't have time for that, anyway 16:12 < blindcoder> well, I have a new problem to fight now 16:13 < daja77> which? 16:13 < blindcoder> Poop'm'up has no make install 16:13 < blindcoder> and no support for being 'installed' at all 16:13 < daja77> I shouldn't have asked... 16:14 < blindcoder> indeed 16:14 < daja77> sorry :) 16:15 * daja77 is screaming around a bit 16:16 * blindcoder putting on headphones 16:16 * daja77 screams louder 16:18 < blindcoder> GGAAAHHHH 16:18 * blindcoder turns up Volume 16:18 * daja77 stops scraming 16:18 < daja77> screaming 16:18 * blindcoder doesn't notice 16:19 * daja77 wants to kill someone, owl are you around? 16:19 < blindcoder> daja77: what's uP? 16:21 < daja77> I try to integrate rtai configuration into Config, so far so good, I implemented everything the documented or have in menuconfig 16:21 < blindcoder> mhm 16:21 < Mike1> daja77: ow is not around but i am here. 16:21 < daja77> but when I look at their generated .config there are more options in it 16:21 < Mike1> moin all. 16:21 < daja77> hi Mike1 16:22 < daja77> Mike1: I can't kill you 16:22 < Mike1> why? 16:22 * daja77 likes Mike1 16:22 < Mike1> :) thanks 16:22 < blindcoder> daja77: so that means you don't liek owl 16:23 < daja77> ahem, no, but she is always seeking death 16:23 < blindcoder> hmm... okay 16:24 < daja77> the worst thing is that those hidden options are not documented anywhere 16:26 < daja77> hmm you can't even set them with make config :( 16:27 < blindcoder> oh 16:29 < daja77> seems I have to redo their magic 16:32 < daja77> .oO first version of realtime target will be a dirty hack, so don't hang me for that 16:34 * daja77 is confused as hell 16:38 < daja77> Mike1: what are you doin today? 16:38 < blindcoder> hmm 16:38 * blindcoder just did a cvs up 16:38 < Mike1> working on elks and fixing some stuff on the intouch targetm you? 16:38 < blindcoder> is it just me or are we basically back to 'base' and 'opt'? 16:39 < Mike1> blindcoder: ack. 16:39 < blindcoder> *sigh* 16:39 < blindcoder> I'm really looking forward to 2.0 16:39 < daja77> Mike1: fiddling on realtime target and maybe some bughunting in project sources 16:39 < blindcoder> so I can change all the crap I don't like 16:40 < blindcoder> and STILL have all the sources together in one place 16:41 * blindcoder getting coffee 16:41 < Mike1> blindcoder: define the crap that you don't like.. 16:42 * daja77 getting coffee too 16:46 * Mike1 getting orange juice :) 16:48 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:49 < blindcoder> Mike1: package categories, the multi-version-of-one-package issue for example 16:50 < blindcoder> I have a solution for ClanLib here, but I doubt that it wil be accepted 16:51 < Mike1> blindcoder: if you don't propose it you will never know. 16:51 < blindcoder> Mike1: remember the thing with bdb? 16:51 < blindcoder> it's just the same 16:51 < Mike1> yeah maybe you are right 16:51 < blindcoder> some games need V0.6.5, some need V0.7.2 and pingus even needs a patched 0.6.5 16:56 < daja77> but multiple versions of packages would be useful in other situations 16:57 < Mike1> depends 16:57 < blindcoder> I'll send the whole diff once cvs up is done and we'll see 17:08 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:09 < daja77> hehe n00kie on board :) 17:09 < n00kie> Huhu daja77 :) 17:09 < daja77> hey n00kie what's up 17:10 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dclient80-218-45-40.hispeed.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:11 < n00kie> daja77: I'm configuring a Script :) 17:11 < daja77> O_o 17:12 < n00kie> Why so "shocked"? 17:12 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@dclient80-218-45-40.hispeed.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:12 < daja77> I'm not shocked 17:12 < daja77> wb capchaos 17:12 < n00kie> surpressed :) 17:12 < n00kie> Hello capchaos 17:12 < capchaos> re daja77 n00kie 17:13 < daja77> anybody knows if we have a N/m/y switch for scripts/Config? 17:13 < n00kie> N/m/y = 17:13 < n00kie> ? 17:14 < daja77> not, module, yes like in the kernel 17:14 < Mike1> daja77: we have only n/y 17:14 < daja77> damn 17:14 < Mike1> yo n00kie 17:15 < Mike1> daja77: feel free to implement m :) 17:15 < n00kie> Howdy Mike1 :) 17:15 < capchaos> m = make a "mooh" sound ? 17:15 < daja77> dunno, if that patch would be accepted 17:16 < daja77> capchaos: mad cow, anyone *g* 17:16 < Mike1> _______________________ 17:16 < Mike1> < Did you call me capy? > 17:16 < Mike1> ----------------------- 17:16 < Mike1> \ ^__^ 17:16 < Mike1> \ (oo)\_______ 17:16 < Mike1> (__)\ )\/\ 17:16 < Mike1> ||----w | 17:16 < Mike1> || || 17:17 < daja77> Mike1: cheap trick to increase your status :P 17:17 < capchaos> Matilda, yeah patch me with some weed 17:17 < Mike1> daja77: well get a nice patch and proposal and wait, you will never know if you don't send it 17:17 < Mike1> daja77: sure i am full of cheap and dirty tricks :) 17:18 < Mike1> __________________________________ 17:18 < Mike1> < capy sorry i gave it all to Mike > 17:18 < Mike1> ---------------------------------- 17:18 < Mike1> \ ^__^ 17:18 < Mike1> \ (oo)\_______ 17:18 < Mike1> (__)\ )\/\ 17:18 < Mike1> ||----w | 17:18 < Mike1> || || 17:18 < daja77> Mike1: I wanted to add realtime target without interfering the rock scripts 17:18 < Mike1> daja77: mmm... well maybe you would like to show what you have done till now 17:18 < Mike1> and maybe i could help you out with some ideas 17:20 < Mike1> daja77: i have a long way to take 2nd place on the chat stats 17:20 < daja77> well, the option that needs it is obsolete anyway, I think I'll just skip it 17:20 < Mike1> huebi and esden are hard to beat. 17:20 < Mike1> daja77: but those options are for the kernel? 17:21 < daja77> hehe ...and esden maintains the logs 17:21 < daja77> Mike1: the rtai modules are indeed kernel modules 17:21 < Mike1> daja77: you can do that from target/rtai/config.in :) 17:22 < daja77> Mike1: I know that, doesn't help 17:22 < Mike1> why not? 17:22 < daja77> never mind, I said I skip that option 17:22 < Mike1> maybe have your own kernel.conf file .. ? 17:23 < daja77> it is really hard to explain... 17:23 < Mike1> daja77: arrggg i was feeling a worthy challenge on the way... 17:23 < daja77> Mike1: maybe in a query? 17:23 < Mike1> yes sure. 17:25 * blindcoder just found out that there's no bread left... so he's got to buy some before he can eat... 17:29 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:30 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:30 < n00kie> re (: 17:44 < blindcoder> okay, flame-aggravating mails sent. will now buy some bread for dinner. 17:44 < blindcoder> bye, bbl 17:45 < daja77> bye blindcoder 17:48 < n00kie> have fun blindcoder :) 18:21 * blindcoder back 18:22 * blindcoder now making his stomach stop growling 18:22 < Mike1> wb blindcoder 18:22 < daja77> don't make such noise while eating :) 18:22 < blindcoder> hehe 18:23 * blindcoder turns up the volume to "Brood War Bash" 18:24 < blindcoder> "T T T T TH TH TH TH THI THI THI THI THIS IS NOT WARCRAFT IN SPACE!" 18:31 < n00kie> I am going to buy some breads 18:32 < n00kie> be right back :) 18:32 < blindcoder> hehe 18:33 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 18:45 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 18:45 < A-Tui> hi friends 18:45 < daja77> hey A-Tui, wb 18:45 < Mike1> hi A-Tui 18:46 < A-Tui> which stage are gem packages built? 18:46 < A-Tui> now my build is on stage 5 18:46 < kasc> moin 18:47 < daja77> moin kasc 18:47 < Mike1> A-Tui: if you specify it to the rebuild stage .gems will be created on stage 9 18:47 < Mike1> else on stage 5 and 7 18:47 < Mike1> hi kasc 18:47 < A-Tui> ok, then on 9 18:47 < Mike1> A-Tui: happy waiting.. :)) 18:47 < A-Tui> i'm worried about disk space :) 18:48 < daja77> A-Tui: enable always remove src dirs 18:48 < A-Tui> Mike1: biggest packages are not built yet :) 18:48 < A-Tui> daja77: i choose that too 18:48 < daja77> good, how much space do you have 18:48 < A-Tui> 1.7 Gb 18:48 < A-Tui> on stage 5 18:48 < Mike1> mm.. 18:49 < Mike1> A-Tui: cross fingers :) 18:49 < daja77> this will not be enough I fear 18:49 < A-Tui> well i can mount another part quickly on gems are putting 18:49 < A-Tui> whats the path for gem packages? 18:50 < daja77> you'll have to interrupt the build and mount a partition on build dir 18:51 < A-Tui> mmm and if i mount a partition only for the binary packages? 18:51 < daja77> but wait if it finishes without that, I think you'll get in trouble when doin this 18:51 < daja77> the most space is wasted in the src dirs 18:51 < A-Tui> then i must say bye bye all my punks mp3 :( 18:51 < daja77> burn a cd 18:53 < A-Tui> yes, but i have a lot of temp downloads form mldonkey :) 18:53 < daja77> A-Tui: don't panic :) 18:53 < A-Tui> XD 18:54 < daja77> wait and see if the build finishes and if not think over it and then try again 18:54 < A-Tui> all things are less if ROCK 1.7 are ok 18:55 < A-Tui> well, i'm going to study a bit, see you later! bye 18:55 < daja77> cu A-Tui 18:56 * A-Tui is away: A la mierda ideologías e ideólogos también! 19:11 * daja77 is goin home now 19:11 < daja77> bye, cu 19:11 < ringo78> by daja77 19:11 < daja77> bye ringo78, haven't noticed you around :( 19:12 < ringo78> something with agp ;-) 19:12 < Mike1> hi ringo78 19:12 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dhcp-153-96-232-25.iwu.fhg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:13 < ringo78> Mike you know hot to get agp up and running Geforce 4 MX 440 SE AGP 8* ? 19:14 < Mike1> ringo78: i have only made it with a GeForce 2 19:14 < ringo78> It says something like chipset not supported :-( Guess I'll have to wait .. 19:14 < Mike1> mm.. 19:15 < Mike1> ringo78: check the xfree page :) 19:20 < blindcoder> ringo78: nvidia-driver or nv-driver? 19:21 < ringo78> blindcoder: in kernel . 19:21 < blindcoder> hmm... if the nvidia driver doesn't support the GeForce4 MX then I'd be very disappointed... mine will arrive tomorrow via UPS 19:22 < Mike1> nothing like eating chocolate when you are disappointed 19:23 * blindcoder hits Mike1 with some decaf-coffee 19:23 < Mike1> blindcoder: what did i do?!?! 19:23 < blindcoder> Mike1: chocolate... *snif* 19:24 < ringo78> blindcoder: I'll have a trye with nv-driver, hopefully nvidia will find it. 19:24 < blindcoder> ringo78: okay 19:25 * Mike1 shows blindcoder a white chocolate bar.... :) 19:26 < blindcoder> GAAAAH!! 19:26 < Mike1> forget it! its mine :) 19:26 * blindcoder goes taking a shower and preparing for fun tonight which is preparation for hangover tomorrow 19:26 -!- Caspar [~steven261@M112P010.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (No route to host) 19:26 < kasc> blindcoder: where did you get the information from that pingus need a specially patched version of clanlib? 19:27 < blindcoder> kasc: from a developer 19:28 < blindcoder> it "works" with an unpatched, but mouse-wheel won't work, a "close" button will be htere on twindows which crashes the game and some problems with the "console" will appear 19:28 < kasc> hmm 19:29 < kasc> didnt notice any of those bugs... 19:29 < blindcoder> that's waht I've been told. You used the binary or the source? 19:29 < kasc> source 19:29 < blindcoder> hmm 19:29 < blindcoder> strange... 19:30 < kasc> without any patches. neither clanlib nor pingus 19:30 < Mike1> arrgggg.. i hate having to buy the CD because of the browsers encoding 19:30 < Mike1> *g 19:31 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off now. 19:31 < blindcoder> baba 19:31 < Mike1> cu 19:31 < kasc> cya 19:35 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081319F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:37 -!- Caspar_ [~steven261@M102P026.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 < n00kie> Back from dinner. 20:06 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:11 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 -!- BeTa-glop [~BeTa@pouf.org] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 < BeTa-glop> hi... 20:34 < BeTa-glop> I'm writing a paper on source-based distros... 20:34 < BeTa-glop> can you tell me when rock's story began plz.. or any URL explaining its story ? 20:34 < tfing> www.rocklinux.org 20:34 < tfing> it should have everything 20:34 < BeTa-glop> about 20:34 < BeTa-glop> sry... I didn't see ;c) 20:35 < tfing> the history ? 20:35 < BeTa-glop> nope.. there no 20:35 < BeTa-glop> yes... when did it starts... or something like that ;c) 20:35 < tfing> https://e-zine.nluug.nl/hold.html?cid=1 <- here in short 20:35 < BeTa-glop> great 20:35 < BeTa-glop> thx 20:37 < BeTa-glop> respect : In the Summer of 1998 20:37 < BeTa-glop> I was really wrong :c( 20:38 < tfing> clifford explained more in details the origin of rock in the mailing list 20:39 < tfing> https://rocklinux.de/mailing-list/rock-linux/2003-2/81.html 20:39 < tfing> here it is :) 20:40 < rxr> re 20:41 < tfing> re rxr 20:41 < tfing> BeTa-glop: found you https://linuxfr.org/~beta/ :) 20:42 < A-Tui> what sgml is on ROCK 1.6? 20:42 < A-Tui> what sgml parse is on ROCK 1.6? 20:42 < BeTa-glop> tfing: :c) 20:42 < BeTa-glop> tfing: well done ;c) 20:42 < tfing> ^_^ 20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: lets see it : https://doc.gentoofr.org/ 20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: lets see it : https://doc.gentoofr.org/Member/BeTa 20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: it's more fun... but in french... ;c) 20:43 < BeTa-glop> tfing: how did you do ? "beta" is such a common word !! 20:44 < tfing> BeTa-glop: you're french 20:44 < BeTa-glop> tfing: :c)... yes :c) 20:44 < tfing> where do french linux users get registered ? :) 20:44 < BeTa-glop> :cb 20:45 < BeTa-glop> where is my nationality written ? 20:45 < BeTa-glop> ;c) 20:45 < tfing> plouf is a french word i think :) 20:46 < BeTa-glop> pouf.org :c) 20:46 < BeTa-glop> it's just like "pouf" ;c) 20:46 < BeTa-glop> phonetically... it's quite easy ;c) 20:46 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-15-2-dialup-52.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 < zer0_o> hi all 20:46 < BeTa-glop> glop 20:47 < tfing> BeTa-glop: btw, don't misunderstand my .se 20:48 < BeTa-glop> arf... sry :c) 20:48 < BeTa-glop> by Jocelyn - Sunday, June 20th 1999 20:10 PST 20:48 < zer0_o> hi Mike1 20:48 < zer0_o> =) 20:48 < BeTa-glop> if the project was registered on freshmeat soon... it has the date advantage... 20:48 < zer0_o> where's owl ? 20:49 < BeTa-glop> it's terrible... for every distro... founding its creation date is really difficult !! strange.. 20:51 < Mike1> 0_o hi :) 20:51 < zer0_o> o_0 20:51 < zer0_o> how are you ? 20:52 < n00kie> zer0_o: O.o 20:53 < zer0_o> <0_o> 20:53 < Mike1> (*)(*) 20:53 < zer0_o> =P 20:53 < _NULL> re 20:53 < Mike1> _NULL: ! 20:53 < _NULL> hi Mike1 20:54 * Mike1 gives a bear hug owl 20:54 < _NULL> :) thx 20:54 < Mike1> _NULL: good to see you, i was missing you . 20:54 * zer0_o send Mike1 to /dev/_NULL 20:54 < _NULL> zer0_o: *kick* 20:54 < Mike1> zer0_o: what did i do? 20:54 < zer0_o> owl is _NULL ? 20:54 < Mike1> _NULL: thanks baby. 20:54 < _NULL> zer0_o: yes. i'm "owl" 20:55 < zer0_o> ah .. sorry 20:55 < _NULL> :p 20:55 < zer0_o> *smack* 20:56 < _NULL> gnaaaa.. fsck. i don't see the monitor which is standing about 2 meters in front of me 20:56 < zer0_o> how big is that monitor ?? ,) 0.01 mm ? 20:57 < _NULL> *g* nope. 17 " 20:57 < zer0_o> you definatly need glases... 20:57 < zer0_o> oh, you already have, i forgot.. 20:57 < _NULL> i have glasses... but... they're not on my nose right now 20:58 < zer0_o> you can borrow mine: -O~O- 20:59 < _NULL> zer0_o: thx ;) 20:59 < zer0_o> no problem 21:00 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Damn, wrong button.") 21:00 < _NULL> damit. now i 'll get cancer ... eye-cancer... caused by seeing windows! help! 21:01 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-15-2-dialup-52.freesurf.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:02 < Mike1> poor _NULL 21:02 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-15-2-dialup-52.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:02 < _NULL> Mike1: :pppp 21:02 < zer0_o> oo0Pss . 21:02 -!- BeTa-glop [~BeTa@pouf.org] has left #rocklinux ("thx a lot folks :c)") 21:02 < zer0_o> this was an 'x' hit to much ... =( 21:03 < _NULL> zer0_o: haha 21:03 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-073-021.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:03 < daja77> re 21:03 < zer0_o> _NULL: =PP 21:04 < zer0_o> _NULL: with your nick, you represent my livestyle ,) 21:04 < _NULL> zer0_o: ah - nihilistic one? 21:05 < zer0_o> just a sec, i have to get babel ,) 21:05 < daja77> omg, not two of them... 21:05 < zer0_o> whats nihilistic ? ,) 21:05 < daja77> basically saying no to everything 21:06 < zer0_o> ah , no ... 21:06 < _NULL> zer0_o: ??? 21:06 < daja77> and of course denying everything include oneself 21:06 < zer0_o> but feeling as a null everytime 21:06 * _NULL too :p 21:06 < daja77> zer0_o: why 21:07 < zer0_o> it's in my nature 21:07 < capchaos> Can anyone tell me what gcc-2.95.3 is needed for in 1.7 ? 21:07 < Mike1> capchaos: to get on my nerves.. 21:08 < daja77> ahem Mike1, everything ok? 21:08 < Mike1> daja77: yeah. 21:08 * daja77 is trying to fix broken grub setup with knoppix :( 21:09 < capchaos> Mike1, didn't mean to get on your nerves.. 21:09 < zer0_o> knoppix ? it sounds like a gourmet menu from knorr, or a name for asterix' cousin... 21:10 < Mike1> capchaos: no no, i was answering to ur question... 21:10 < capchaos> Mike1, oh, so it's not actually needed? 21:10 < Mike1> see ----> Can anyone tell me what gcc-2.95.3 is needed for in 1.7 ? 21:10 -!- ac [~anders@dsl-62-3-122-162.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 21:10 < Mike1> you can settle to gcc3 21:10 < capchaos> hi ac 21:11 < ac> lo capchaos 21:11 < Mike1> Master ac!! 21:11 < daja77> zer0_o: linux distribution from klaus knopper running from cdrom 21:11 < _NULL> hi ac 21:11 < ac> lo Mike1 21:11 < capchaos> ac, are you Alan Cox? :-) 21:11 < ac> lo _NULL 21:11 < ac> capchaos: hardly.. :) 21:11 < Mike1> capchaos: he is not alan cox but you are close 21:11 < daja77> anders why the different nick? 21:11 < zer0_o> deja77, i felt hungry when i heard knopix ,) 21:11 < ac> daja77: shorter... :) 21:12 < daja77> zer0_o: eat something, and stop complaining 21:12 -!- ac is now known as [anders[ 21:12 < daja77> ac: doesn't matter, tab exists :) 21:12 -!- [anders[ is now known as [anders] 21:12 < [anders]> argh.. :) 21:12 < daja77> :) 21:13 < Mike1> daja77: do you know who [anders] is? 21:13 < daja77> no, only that he is an ibm guy 21:13 < Mike1> daja77: not an ... the :) 21:13 < daja77> Mike1: -v 21:14 < [anders]> daja77: I'm not exactly an IBM'er.... 21:14 < Mike1> daja77: [anders] is one the few ones i call Master :) 21:14 < daja77> [anders]: who are you :) 21:14 < Mike1> daja77: You know Alan Cox, Anders Carlsson, Piotr Esden Tempsky.. 21:15 < [anders]> daja77: just a linux tinkerer.. :) 21:15 < [anders]> I on occation post crud to the rock linux mailing list. 21:15 < daja77> Mike1: the first and the last yes 21:15 < daja77> [anders]: hehe, what are doin at ibm, if not working for them? 21:15 < Mike1> daja77: that was the ones i call master 21:16 < [anders]> daja77: I am a consultant in my spare time.. ;-) 21:16 < daja77> Mike1: ok 21:16 < daja77> [anders]: so what's your business then? 21:16 < [anders]> daja77: linux, aix, perl and shell scripts.. 21:16 < daja77> sounds cool 21:16 < [anders]> daja77: https://www.trudheim.com 21:18 < daja77> one man company, nice 21:18 < Mike1> daja77: 2 men comapny 21:18 < Mike1> :) 21:18 < daja77> Mike1: you are the second? 21:18 < [anders]> daja77: well, got to do it that way unfortunately.. Inland Revenue rules.. :( 21:19 < daja77> damn rules 21:22 < daja77> WEEEEEE, booted rock on my sister's laptop 21:22 * [anders] got SuSE Pro 8.2 tuesday morning.. 21:23 < [anders]> don't want to update my laptop with it just yet though.. 21:23 * daja77 doesn't like SuSE 21:24 < [anders]> SuSE is good enough.. I needed something that 'just worked' and didn't require two hours maintenance every day.. 21:24 < daja77> huh, SuSE needs a helping everywhere 21:25 < tcr> hey rxr... Hmm, when you send a private mail additionally, could you please add either rock-linux@... or my adress to CC, but not both to TO:? My mailer doesn't get the latter case right... and will automatically only send to you back 21:25 < [anders]> daja77: not had to help SuSE particularly much.. there is one thing I am working on fixing.. S14alsasound in rc[235].d needs to be moved to S04alsasound, but that is about it. 21:25 < Mike1> SuSE is ok if you ask me.. 21:26 < daja77> or did you mean something that yast worked, scnr 21:26 < tcr> hi anders. Yeah, can feel with you... I'm getting more and more in this mood actually 21:26 < daja77> tcr: hi and thx for saving the channel :) 21:26 < tcr> moin daja 21:26 < daja77> Mike1: what do you mean with ok? 21:27 < Mike1> daja77: that is usable.. 21:27 < daja77> well, in that case I prefer redhat 21:28 < tcr> Traitor!!! ;) 21:28 < Mike1> daja77: i would work for SuSE or redhat if they came up with a good 21:28 < Mike1> good... $ offer 21:29 < Mike1> :) 21:29 < tcr> Buy SuSE and help the german conjuncture ;) 21:29 < capchaos> Hehe 21:29 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 21:29 < [anders]> tcr: so you are looking for something that just works as well? :) 21:30 < tcr> [anders]: Well, sometimes ;) but then my 'Damn, just hack it dead!' site has still the overhand ;) 21:31 < [anders]> tcr: I just don't have the time to hack things about anymore.. I needed something that just 'was there and worked'... 21:31 < daja77> tcr: I don't care whether suse is german or not, I don't wanna have it 21:31 < tcr> [anders]: Yup... can imagine that, really. 21:31 < [anders]> I have used SuSE before, and I must admit, SLPro 8.1 was very very slick.. From what I can tell from the suse-linux-e mailing list, 8.2 is even better.. 21:31 < Mike1> daja77: do you wanna have _NULL? 21:31 < tcr> daja77: Bah. 21:32 < daja77> tcr: from nuremberg? 21:32 < daja77> Mike1: psst 21:32 < tcr> Nah, but would like to life their... beautiful city 21:32 < Mike1> tsstss 21:33 < rxr> hi Mike1 21:33 < daja77> Mike1: to be honest it is mean to ask something like that 21:33 < daja77> hi rxr 21:33 < daja77> tcr: where from? 21:34 < Mike1> hi rxr 21:34 < Mike1> daja77: well some people say i am mean 21:34 < daja77> add me to the list 21:34 < tcr> Mainz 21:34 < daja77> *g* 21:34 < [anders]> lo rxr 21:35 < daja77> rxr: fixed grub setup manually :) 21:35 < tcr> [anders]: please rename to ac again... brackets are damn unhandy to type 21:35 < Mike1> tcr: lol 21:35 < daja77> tcr: lazy guy 21:36 < tcr> :P I'm at last a wannabe suse user! 21:36 -!- [anders] is now known as ac 21:36 < daja77> a wannabe suse luser... 21:36 < zer0_o> shame on you tcr 21:36 < ac> daja77: don't knock it.. :) SuSE actually has done quite well.. is a lot better than DeadRat at any rate.. ;-) 21:37 < daja77> ac: maybe, but most people I know using suse are utterly lusers 21:37 < tcr> maybe because you just reside among lusers ;))) 21:37 * daja77 fixed a suse some weeks ago 21:37 < A-Tui> i'm getting mad with docbook! 21:37 < ac> daja77: well, suse is easy to use.. 21:38 < daja77> tcr: I do at work, like most people 21:38 < ac> daja77: you work in the wrong place then.. ;-) 21:39 < tcr> daja77: If I need a new dosis of luserness I just join into here ;))) *sfg* 21:39 < daja77> ac: I'll change after I finished my studies 21:39 * ac always get suprised at how little I know when talking to people on site.. 21:39 < daja77> tcr: do not confuse us with you 21:40 < daja77> well, we are all lusers sometimes, the point is to be it clever 21:44 < daja77> yeah I killed discussion *g* 21:44 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M262P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:45 < daja77> n00kie: nice to see you again 21:45 < n00kie> Huhu daja77 21:45 < daja77> *argl* 21:47 < rxr> daja77: what was the problem ? 21:48 -!- zer0_o is now known as zer0_oSNES 21:48 < daja77> rxr: well, I just said setuo (hd0) and bootsector was initialized, but still could not boot because device map was broken 21:49 < daja77> strange, I fixed it with writing (hd0) /dev/hda into that file 21:50 < daja77> at least I had to fix menu.lst because instead of (hd0,0) the was !NO DEVICE MAP FOUND in that file 21:50 < daja77> you might say it was completely broken 21:51 < n00kie> daja77: Grub problems? 21:51 < daja77> n00kie: yes 21:51 < n00kie> what#s the problem? 21:52 < daja77> n00kie: I don't need your help, fixed it myself 21:53 < ac> grub is cool.. got some nice features.. 21:53 < daja77> ac: yes, but stone was unable to do the setup right :( 21:53 < n00kie> daja77: That listened bad 21:54 < daja77> n00kie: ?? 21:54 * A-Tui is back (gone 02:57:34) 21:54 < daja77> re A-Tui 21:54 < ac> stone? 21:54 < n00kie> I don't need your help listenes like:"I don't need your help, I'm better then you" 21:54 < n00kie> wb A-Tui 21:55 < daja77> n00kie: no, it is just a problem of the past 21:55 < Mike1> n00kie: just don't listen to him. 21:55 < tcr> n00kie: Not listen in this case but sound 21:55 < daja77> Mike1: heh, what have I done to you 21:55 < A-Tui> re all 21:55 < tcr> daja77 is our troll! Yeah, gotcha!! haha 21:55 < n00kie> daja77: But I know, you haven't meaned it so :) 21:56 < Mike1> daja77: nothing, but that was a nice way to talk to someone willing to help you 21:56 < n00kie> Holla Mike1 :) 21:56 < n00kie> wb A-Tui 21:56 < A-Tui> hi n00kie 21:56 < Mike1> Saludos A-Tui and n00kie :) 21:56 < A-Tui> holitas Mike1 :) 21:56 < daja77> Mike1: sorry, don't wanna hurt somebody 21:56 < A-Tui> what are you talking about? 21:56 < Mike1> daja77: that was _not_ a nice way to ... 21:57 < Mike1> daja77: its ok just give n00kiea hug :) 21:57 < A-Tui> i read something like "i'm better tha you....." 21:57 < n00kie> no 21:57 < n00kie> i know that daja77 doesn't meaned it so :) 21:57 < n00kie> We are friends :) 21:57 < Mike1> A-Tui: don't pay attention to that it was a missunderstood. 21:58 < A-Tui> Mike1: yes, i supposed that, this is a ROCK Linux channel, buen rollo ever :) 21:58 < daja77> Mike1: I got it, I just did not want to tell the whole story again, cos the issue got on my nerves, sorry again 21:58 < Mike1> daja77: relax brother :) 21:58 < Mike1> A-Tui: yeah almost everybody here is nice. 21:58 < A-Tui> daja77: what's happen friend? 21:58 * daja77 relaxes 21:59 < A-Tui> Mike1: yes, that the reason for that a love this channel :) 21:59 < Mike1> hehe :) 21:59 < Mike1> A-Tui: even Alan Cox comes here 21:59 < tcr> Well, if he hadn't added 'fixed it myself', it would have sounded harsh, but so it's actually ok.. 21:59 < daja77> lol 21:59 < Mike1> right ac ? :) 21:59 < A-Tui> Alan Cox!!! wOw 21:59 < daja77> thx tcr 21:59 < A-Tui> :) 22:00 < tcr> daja77: we german brother must hold together against the axis of evil anywhere there in austria ;))) 22:00 < n00kie> Alan Cox has more respect than any other people :) 22:00 < A-Tui> n00kie: not for me :) 22:00 < n00kie> ehehe 22:01 < daja77> n00kie: don't listen to tcr :) 22:01 < Mike1> A-Tui: no?!?! 22:01 < A-Tui> Mike1: All people have respect for me!! 22:01 < Mike1> A-Tui: yeah sure :) 22:01 < daja77> A-Tui: explain 22:01 < n00kie> yes A-Tui 22:01 < A-Tui> i don't belive in heros :) 22:01 < ac> uh.. who? 22:01 < Mike1> A-Tui: Alan is not a hero.. is an Alien :) 22:02 < A-Tui> daja77: i mean that nobody has more respect than other for his name 22:02 < daja77> ac: Mike1 is pulling your leg, don't worry 22:02 < A-Tui> Mike1: :) 22:02 < ac> daja77: uhu.. 22:03 < n00kie> A-Tui: Sure 22:03 < A-Tui> i think here people think same thing 22:03 * daja77 not :) 22:03 < A-Tui> daja77: explain? 22:04 < daja77> nothing, just remembering a monty python scene... 22:04 < A-Tui> XD 22:08 < daja77> A-Tui: XD?? 22:08 < A-Tui> XD == laugh 22:08 < daja77> hmmm 22:08 < A-Tui> i think the same thing that lol, true? 22:09 < daja77> yes 22:09 < tcr> nope, not entirely 22:09 < daja77> tcr: a bit like it 22:09 < A-Tui> what is "lol" then? 22:09 < tcr> "man, ain't this cool XD" 22:10 < tcr> like an amazing laugh or something 22:10 < daja77> tcr: lol == laughing oot loud 22:10 < daja77> out, damn 22:10 < tcr> with an ironic touch 22:10 < A-Tui> aha 22:10 < tcr> yeah but XD is not quite the same 22:10 < A-Tui> no 22:10 < daja77> tcr: what is it then? 22:10 < A-Tui> XD makes loud :) 22:11 < tcr> I can't express it, sorry -- but it's not the same 22:11 < A-Tui> well, don't matter :) 22:11 < tcr> gimme a moment... 22:12 < ac> right.. time to go to bed me thinks.. got to get up early in the morning.. 22:12 < A-Tui> bye ac 22:12 < daja77> ac: gn8, cu 22:13 < A-Tui> and what is gn8? 22:13 < n00kie> good night 22:13 < tcr> I wouldst want to wished you a beautiful night, ac 22:13 < n00kie> sleep well daja77 22:13 < tcr> wishest 22:13 < daja77> n00kie: ??? 22:13 < n00kie> ah 22:13 < n00kie> sleep well ac 22:13 < ac> night night all.. :) 22:13 < n00kie> A-Tui: In German Gute (g) Nacht 8==acht (gn8) == good night 22:13 < n00kie> :) 22:13 < ac> will do.. I hope.. :) 22:13 < capchaos> gnu8 ac 22:14 < ac> ~~~ 22:14 -!- ac [~anders@dsl-62-3-122-162.zen.co.uk] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 22:14 < A-Tui> ah, it's german ok 22:14 < tcr> tfing: !!! 22:14 < tcr> tfing: ping 22:14 < tfing> tcr ? 22:14 < tcr> ah good you're here 22:14 < tfing> yes :) 22:17 < daja77> hey tfing 22:17 < tfing> hi daja77 22:18 < zer0_oSNES> n8 all 22:19 < daja77> n8 gamer :) 22:19 < zer0_oSNES> lol 22:19 < zer0_oSNES> some times it has to be ,) 22:19 < daja77> np, n8 22:19 -!- zer0_oSNES [~zer0_o@pop-ls-15-2-dialup-52.freesurf.ch] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:21 -!- tibit_ [~tibit@p508AA7B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:25 -!- ruddur [~ruddur@rocklinux.ruddur.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:26 < daja77> hey ruddur, what's up? 22:26 < ruddur> hi, daja77 22:26 < daja77> you have been away a long time 22:26 < ruddur> yes 22:27 < daja77> then wb ruddur 22:27 < ruddur> i have a problem with x window 22:27 < capchaos> hi ruddur hi daja77 :) 22:27 < ruddur> i startx but not graphic 22:28 < daja77> ruddur: error message 22:28 < ruddur> no 22:28 < ruddur> only the picture of gnome 22:28 < ruddur> et nothing else 22:28 < ruddur> nothing prog 22:28 < daja77> tried other wm? 22:28 < capchaos> picture of gnome? 22:29 < ruddur> the same with kde 22:29 < daja77> capchaos: you gnomes are little people 22:29 < daja77> strange 22:29 < daja77> you know even 22:29 < capchaos> daja77, hehe that's why I try to mind Gnome(s) 22:29 < ruddur> probably the links with the directory of kde or gnome 22:29 < ruddur> i don't no 22:30 < ruddur> i don't know 22:30 < capchaos> ruddur, try wmaker or icewm 22:31 < ruddur> this is not the problem i think 22:31 < capchaos> ruddur, what is missing there in gnome or kde? 22:32 < ruddur> i think X don't have the link for kde or gnome 22:32 < capchaos> ?? 22:32 < capchaos> What exactly do you see when you startx? 22:32 < ruddur> it's configured in xinitrc 22:32 < ruddur> it boot 22:32 < daja77> ruddur: start a xterm in .xinitrc? 22:33 < ruddur> xterm is good in starx 22:33 < ruddur> but no interface 22:33 < capchaos> You can start KDE or Gnome by hand in that xterm ;) 22:33 -!- tibit [~tibit@p508AA979.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:33 < ruddur> how 22:33 < daja77> wm is missing, add gnome-session to .xinitrc 22:34 < capchaos> yeah 22:34 < capchaos> gnome-session or startkde or something :) 22:34 < ruddur> i make it 22:34 < ruddur> but nothing prog of kde or gnome 22:34 < ruddur> only colored backgroud 22:35 < ruddur> only colored background 22:35 < daja77> :( 22:35 < ruddur> there is the default install of rocklinux iso 1.7.19c3 22:36 < daja77> now, you mention it, it is broken, doesn't work here 22:36 < rxr> ruddur: why such an old one? 22:36 < rxr> we had an Technology Preview 1 and 2 as well as an alpha release after the 19c3 iso ... 22:37 < tcr> rxr: Already managed it to test that sed thingie? 22:38 < daja77> rxr: guess he made the download before ypur upload 22:39 < daja77> .oO typos getting worse 22:39 < rxr> tcr: err no :-( 22:40 < tcr> hmm.. would be good if you could do it this night 22:43 < daja77> ruddur: you can fix it by installing all the packages again :( 22:46 < ruddur> ok thanks 22:46 < daja77> not forget to redo ldconfig 22:46 < ruddur> ok 22:47 < A-Tui> see you later, bye 22:47 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has left #rocklinux ("I like core dumps") 22:57 < tcr> "Love is... Patching each other's kernel." 22:57 < daja77> *rofl* 22:58 < capchaos> *g* 23:00 < daja77> tcr: creative tonight? 23:01 < tcr> I'm merging changes from an internal development branch to my tree for clean changesets 23:01 < tcr> of CDK 23:01 < daja77> CDK??? 23:01 < tcr> curses development kit 23:02 < daja77> *urgs* 23:07 -!- mauricio [~mauricio@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 23:08 < tcr> still 10 minutes till dirty harry 23:08 < Mike1> que tal mauricio? 23:08 < mauricio> Mike1, en toas! 23:08 < mauricio> Mike1, vos? 23:09 < Mike1> mauricio: good thanks :) 23:09 < mauricio> Mike1, cool! 23:09 < Mike1> mauricio: on holidays already? 23:11 < mauricio> Mike1, not yet!, i'm working today 23:11 < Mike1> wanna play pool tonight? 23:12 < mauricio> Mike1, ... i gotta sleep, i have a fuckin' hangover 23:12 < Mike1> hehe 23:28 < daja77> tcr: dirty harry movies are dull 23:29 < tcr> ???? 23:29 < tcr> you're talking about TEH harald schmidt? 23:29 < daja77> tcr: nope, dirty harry alias clint eastwood, sorry 23:30 < daja77> I'll go to bed now, gn8 23:30 < tcr> hm?? 23:30 < tcr> harald ist an! 23:30 < daja77> tcr: dirty harry, stupid movies, never mind 23:31 < daja77> bye bye 23:31 < tcr> im talking about harald schmidt 23:31 < tcr> anyway, gn8 23:31 < daja77> tcr: I got it, I was not, sorry again 23:32 -!- daja77 [~daja77@dialin-145-254-073-021.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("having fun somewhere else, cu") 23:44 < rxr> n8 23:44 < tcr> gn8 rxr 23:44 * rxr off, too 23:44 < rxr> tcr: btw I have not tested yet 23:45 < rxr> and I guess I'll not have the time for such test because my TODO is already quite long 23:45 < rxr> you could also boot strap a stage0-4 ... ;-) 23:45 < rxr> n8 23:45 < Mike1> holy shit! 23:45 < Mike1> https://www.linuxmag.nl/Tux2MS/tux_barney.jpg 23:56 < _NULL> gn8 all --- Log closed Thu Apr 17 00:00:13 2003