-!- Irrsi Log opened Tue Apr 29 00:00:27 2003
-!- Irrsi Day changed Tue Apr 29 2003
[00:00] < daja77> oh shit day changed O_o
[00:00] < esden> yes it has
[00:00] < esden> I still have an hour to do stuff ;-)
[00:01] < _NULL_> esden: huh?
[00:01] < daja77> esden: my $other_client never told me such nice things
[00:04] < esden> ohh irssi
[00:04] < esden> what have you used before?
[00:05] < mnemoc> six pm. here ;)
[00:05] < mnemoc> lot of 'day' to work
[00:05] daja77 whispers: xchat
[00:06] < esden> mnemoc: my condoleces
[00:06] mnemoc is away [log:off] [pager:off] [gone:17hrs 12mins 11secs] : [ lunch ]
[00:07] < _NULL_> guess mnemoc can eat _very_ much
[00:07] mnemoc is away [log:off] [pager:off] [gone:17hrs 13mins 12secs] : [ lunch ]
[00:07] < _NULL_> *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh* public away scriptc are really annoying
[00:07] mnemoc is back [gone:17hrs 13mins 34secs] : [ back ]
[00:08] < esden> _NULL_: ACK
[00:08] < mnemoc> i now :(
[00:08] < daja77> _NULL_: full ack
[00:08] < esden> mnemoc: can you switch it off please?
[00:08] < _NULL_> mnemoc: thx ;)
[00:08] < mnemoc> :)
[00:09] < _NULL_> + in advance
[00:12] mnemoc had disabled that crap :D
[00:12] < daja77> congrats
[00:12] mnemoc is now a bit better person
[00:14] < _NULL_> *g*
[00:15] < daja77> better a bit, or so so .oO
[00:18] < esden> mnemoc: congrats!!! ;-)
[00:19] < mnemoc> now.. i just need to change outlook express to be a sane-person
[00:19] < esden> o_O
[00:19] < daja77> waahaa, emergency call send out
[00:19] < mnemoc> :|
[00:20] < capchaos> mnemoc, spit it out spit it out
[00:20] < daja77> attention kids: outlook is not a mailer, it is a fake
[00:21] < esden> daja77: it is also a hoak that outlook can manage mails ;-)
[00:21] < esden> hoax even
[00:21] < _NULL_> one word can make the whole channel complaining ;p
[00:21] < esden> _NULL_: hehe ;-)
[00:21] < capchaos> like those fake id cards you get when you buy a new purse - that's outlook
[00:22] < mnemoc> haha
[00:22] < esden> capchaos: FULL ACK ... but they are for free ;-)
[00:22] < capchaos> free your mind, give me all your money ;-)
[00:22] < daja77> _NULL_: yes, this has a reason, btw it were three words
[00:23] < _NULL_> daja77: blll :p
[00:23] < esden> _NULL_ should be sent to preschool again to learn counting ;-)
[00:23] esden hiding
[00:23] < daja77> accounting
[00:24] _NULL_ takes a _laaaaaaaarge_ sword and kills esden !
[00:24] < capchaos> hehe i will become teacher then ;-)
[00:24] < esden> and make her cisco certificate ;-)
[00:24] < _NULL_> esden: what about cisco?
[00:24] < daja77> do you know what MSCE means?
[00:25] < esden> I only know MCSE ...
[00:25] < daja77> MCSE even
[00:25] esden was faster *blll*
[00:25] < _NULL_> microsoft certifi[...] engineer?
[00:25] < daja77> nope, Must Consult Someone Experienced
[00:26] < _NULL_> hehe ;) ok...
[00:26] < esden> MineSweeper Certified Engineer
[00:26] < daja77> lol
[00:26] < _NULL_> this people are so sick ;)
[00:26] < tfing> :)
[00:26] < daja77> _NULL_: of course?
[00:26] < daja77> tfing: hi
[00:27] < tfing> hi
[00:27] esden needs a faster connection ... or the servers hosting package sources should be faster ... >_<
[00:27] < _NULL_> esden: faster than ...?
[00:27] < daja77> light
[00:27] < _NULL_> hi tfing
[00:30] < esden> _NULL_: 90744.630 bytes/sec
[00:30] < esden> 123860.854 bytes/sec
[00:30] < esden> that all is too slow
[00:30] < _NULL_> esden: hm.
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[00:32] < daja77> poor esden *angry looking*
[00:41] < esden> hmm ... making the uclibc package is fun ;-)
[00:42] < esden> it has the same configuration system the kernel has
[00:42] < daja77> the same with rtai
[00:43] < _NULL_> <-- sleeping
[00:43] < _NULL_> gn8
[00:44] < daja77> n8 _NULL_
[00:44] < daja77> damn that A-tui can't speak german :(
[00:44] < esden> daja77: why?
[00:45] < daja77> fefe did such a funny rant about docbook, which harrassed A-tui some days ago
[00:49] < Caspar> hi
[00:49] < Caspar> what means: ./scripts/Download -all
[00:49] < Caspar> ERROR: Unknown file: cantus-1.06-1.tar.gz.
[00:49] < daja77> esden: want it as mail?
[00:56] < tsa> where did he?
[00:56] < tsa> From: Felix von Leitner <usenet-20030428@fefe.de>
[00:56] < tsa> Newsgroups: de.alt.sysadmin.recovery
[00:56] < tsa> Subject: Ist DocBook wirklich so beschissen?
[00:56] < tsa> Message-ID: <3eada3b8@fefe.de>
[00:57] < daja77> yes, it is not on google this time, so I can't post a link here
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[01:07] < esden> daja77: please sond it to me
[01:07] < daja77> ok
[01:07] < daja77> esden@rocklinux.org ?
[01:07] < esden> ack
[01:08] esden loves fefe humor ;-)
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[01:08] daja77 too
[01:08] < daja77> mail sent
[01:09] < esden> thanks
[01:22] < daja77> esden, all gn8
[01:23] < esden> n8 daja77
[01:23] < daja77> have fun ;)
[01:23] < esden> ok ... I will have to continue m4 learning tomorrow
[01:23] < esden> >_<
[01:23] < esden> I hate the flow of time >_<
[01:23] < daja77> ack
[01:24] < tfing> [1]+ Stopped time
[01:24] < esden> good night
[01:24] < tfing> nite esden
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[01:41] < tsa> cu all
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[02:28] < tfing> how do you say open source in german ?
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[02:30] < scab> hi
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[02:55] < george> hi there.
[02:55] < george> Rene, awake?
[03:11] < saight> hi george
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[06:37] < blindcoder> moin
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[07:05] < rxr> 0~re
[07:12] < kasc> moin
[07:20] < rxr> Committed revision 47.
[07:23] < rxr> cu
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[08:12] < starlord> where can i get infodir/packages file as the install_bin uses it but i don't have it,also i'm using snapshot tar file
[08:14] < starlord> also how easy it's to change Download script to use wget,it seem's to be that all popular rescue iso's have only that
[08:29] < esden> good morning
[08:34] < starlord> morning esden
[09:19] < esden> cu all
[09:34] < rxr> re
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[09:37] < blindcoder> okay, now I'm done :)
[09:37] < blindcoder> hi all
[09:39] < rxr> starlord: you can not easily chnage curl to wget ...
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[09:58] < starlord> hi blindcoder,why's that? or easy to make shell script named curl that is wrapper for wget,just have to know how curl is called,what the parameter's are and so on...
[09:59] < rxr> no - we use curl features quite extensively to handle farious error conditions - you cannot emulate this
[09:59] < rxr> simply get curl
[10:00] < starlord> and what's that infodir/packages file,how to create it,does the Configure make it, it need gcc and rescue disks offen don't have them
[10:00] < starlord> plaah,need livecd iso that has gcc,curl,etc...
[10:01] < starlord> does rock have livecd? i'm trying to install to pc that doesn't have existing install of any kind of os
[10:03] starlord went to smoke.
[10:04] < rxr> starlord: we'll have a livecd soon
[10:05] < rxr> starlord: use the full ISOs provided ...
[10:06] < starlord> rxr:they don't provide support for my crappy isa eth card,how soon? :)
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[10:14] < rxr> hm? How soon what? An ISO ?
[10:14] < rxr> or the livecd ?
[10:15] < starlord> livecd
[10:16] < rxr> ah - some weeks. I'll do more stableization for the 2.0 release - I'll do the livecd target in the free time in between ... :-(
[10:16] < rxr> but you could get the 2.0.0-beta CDs ...
[10:16] < rxr> er -alpha I mean
[10:17] < rxr> the -beta are lying around here waiting for release ...
[10:17] < rxr> ;-)
[10:17] < starlord> does they have pnp tools or kernel builtin support for isa eth cards?
[10:17] < rxr> the isapnp should be compiled in.
[10:17] < starlord> and module ne.o
[10:18] < rxr> but - wait a minute the alpha release misses the hardware autodetection
[10:18] < rxr> if you want this - you have to wait until tonight (or so) when I release 2.0.0-beta ... :-(
[10:20] < starlord> ok,will wait,if it doesn't work,have to try knoppix livecd(might be missing curl)
[10:21] < starlord> for what cpu it is compiled? hopefully i386 so it work's on everyone
[10:22] < rxr> nope - I'll optimize my official CD for pentium-mmx
[10:23] < rxr> Otherwise we would loose to much speed - and all normally used boxes have at least such an mmx-pentium ...
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[10:31] < rxr> hehe - so even s.o. over at osnew.org has noticed that the kde is slow - gnome is fast is not valid anymore:
[10:31] < rxr> "SuSE's default KDE 3.1 interface is faster than the Gnome 2.2 interface coming with Red Hat 9. The difference is so big that it is difficult to go back to Red Hat after some time with SuSE. Especially annoying is that basic everyday applications are tediously slow in Gnome, like Nautilus, calculator, text editor and others. You almost here clock ticking when you select "run application" from the menu ... Gnome may have a perfect arch
[10:33] < swede> if just KDE didn't have such a GUI deficiency...
[10:35] < rxr> hm - I dont't think so ...
[10:35] < swede> diffrence of opinion I guess, but KDE just get on my nerves..
[10:37] < blindcoder> I once ried switching to KDE from iceWM because I needed Xinerama
[10:37] < blindcoder> after two days I switched back to iceWM
[10:40] < swede> I can understand you...
[10:41] < blindcoder> After 30 minutes of searching for how I can bind "hotkeys" to programs I gave up
[10:41] < blindcoder> like (Ctrl+Alt+t == xterm)
[10:41] < swede> I am sure that is somewhere in the Kontrolcenter..
[10:42] < swede> if it isn't, it should be..
[10:42] < swede> in Gnome2, you'd use gconf-editor to modify Gnome's settings on the fly..
[10:42] < blindcoder> next I couldn't find how to add "custom" programs to the toolbar (other than the predefined set of programs available with right-mouse-button)
[10:42] < blindcoder> hehe in iceWM I just edit a few text-files :)
[10:43] < swede> yeh.. I remember the good old days of Ctwm...
[10:43] < blindcoder> hm... don't know that one
[10:45] < rxr> blindcoder: right click on the panel -> Panel Menu -> Add -> Special Button -> Non KDE Application
[10:45] < rxr> swede: will take a look in a moment
[10:45] < blindcoder> rxr: hmm... haven't found that the last time... I'll have a look when I'm home
[10:48] < rxr> swede: IISC: kcontrol -> Reginal & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:48] < swede> rxr: thought it would be in there somewhere..
[10:48] < rxr> it is in the KDE Control Center
[10:49] < rxr> ad the tree node: Reginal & Accessibility
[10:50] < blindcoder> rxr: can I define my own "hotkeys" there? like "Ctrl+Alt+Bosskey" == "sudo rm -rf /" ?
[10:50] < rxr> s/ad/at/
[10:53] < rxr> blindcoder: the neuronal net would not allow you to defince s.th. like that *g*
[10:54] < rxr> I only find a short-cut defince for applications in the KDE Menu
[10:54] < blindcoder> rxr: bah. I know what I'm doing. I just don't know what effect my doing will have :D
[10:54] < rxr> Jups
[10:55] < blindcoder> hmm... well, I could of course add it to the KDE-Menu. But one Item for each of xmm forward/backwad/play/pause/stop would be a bit much IMO
[10:58] < rxr> yes of course
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[11:15] < rxr> Committed revision 50.
[11:17] < mnemoc> you have passed from 45 to 50 while i build 1-gcc3 :(
[11:18] < rxr> mnemoc: mostly merges with Cliffs CVS ...
[11:18] < rxr> hi btw ;-)
[11:18] < mnemoc> hi :)
[11:20] < rxr> my 5-gcc3 is also still building ;-)
[11:21] < mnemoc> :D
[11:21] < mnemoc> happy happy joy joy
[11:22] < mnemoc> 51??.. it grows fast
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[11:25] < blindcoder> rehi
[11:26] < rxr> ;-)
[11:28] < rxr> cu later
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[12:51] < rxr> 3aaaarghthghghgghgh
[12:51] < rxr> those broken crap that arrives as patch here :-(
[12:51] < blindcoder> ?
[12:55] < rxr> read ML
[12:55] < rxr> the next time I'll delete those packages ...
[12:56] < kasc> re
[12:56] < blindcoder> oh... so that's why the whole nikolaus repositary failed
[12:57] < mnemoc> that was hard
[12:57] < kasc> what packages?
[12:57] < mnemoc> the whole repo.
[12:58] < rxr> :-(
[12:58] < kasc> nikolaus repos?
[12:58] < mnemoc> rxr: do you know when the -lattr issue will get priority?
[13:04] < rxr> mnemoc: huhm - I thought it has highest priority - but cliff seems to be very busy ...
[13:04] < rxr> ixed all of nikolaus' packages to at least sustain the sanity checks ...
[13:04] < rxr> --This line, and those below, will be ignored--
[13:04] < rxr> M Documentation/Developers/CHANGELOG-RENE
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/gnupod-perlmods/gnupod-perlmods.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/xfsamba/xfsamba.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/cheapskatefonts/cheapskatefonts.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/linesrv/linesrv.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/whatsnewfm/whatsnewfm.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/ocs/ocs.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/qtparted/qtparted.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/tsclient/tsclient.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/dnrd/dnrd.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/mgt/mgt.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/rdesktop/rdesktop.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/gnupod/gnupod.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/easytag/easytag.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/grepmail/grepmail.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/flac/flac.desc
[13:04] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/id3lib/id3lib.desc
[13:05] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/muttprint/muttprint.desc
[13:05] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/unison/unison.desc
[13:05] < rxr> M package/nikolaus/gpart/gpart.desc
[13:05] < rxr> M package/base/parted/parted.desc
[13:05] < rxr> Committed revision 52.
[13:05] < blindcoder> puha
[13:08] rxr grummels ...
[13:09] < kasc> hehe
[13:09] < _NULL_> hi
[13:09] < blindcoder> moin nully
[13:10] < _NULL_> hi blindy
[13:13] < _NULL_> why, why, why? why is school such a crap?
[13:14] < blindcoder> because it's school
[13:14] < _NULL_> hrmpf. shouldn't you _learn_ something at school? or did i get something wrong?
[13:15] < blindcoder> no. You shall sit down and be quiet while the teacher tells you something you a) already know b) don't need c) all of the above
[13:15] < kasc> i did learn a lot during school...
[13:16] < blindcoder> kasc: drinking? :)
[13:16] < kasc> e.g. how to sleep while looking awake
[13:16] < _NULL_> *g*
[13:16] < blindcoder> *muahahaha*
[13:16] < kasc> or how to do useful stuff under the table in a way the teacher wont notice
[13:17] < blindcoder> no. I learned when it's best not to tell people you depend on that they're stupid idiots >_<
[13:17] < blindcoder> like telling the teacher that what he's telling is absolutely wrong
[13:17] < _NULL_> kasc: full ack ;)
[13:19] < kasc> blindcoder: no good idea. In nearly all cases you end up with getting bad grades
[13:20] < blindcoder> kasc: yes. I learned that at the end of the year >_<
[13:21] < blindcoder> But I just had to tell him that I can't hack the school system through a "Steckdose". Not even with Linux on my laptop.
[13:21] < blindcoder> he didn't believe me, though and I had an empty battery on the train home. That sucked
[13:23] < kasc> lol
[13:23] < daja77> hi
[13:24] < blindcoder> moin daja77
[13:24] < _NULL_> hi daja77
[13:25] < _NULL_> could people who 're having knowledge in "networking" please join #quizzone ? ;) i need to have an solution on my paper. thank you in advance *vbeg*
[13:26] blindcoder joining
[13:26] < _NULL_> thx
[13:26] < kasc> moin daja77
[13:27] < daja77> +*argh* sony websites suck
[13:28] < _NULL_> daja77: why?
[13:28] < daja77> they have their monitor specs only as pdf
[13:29] < daja77> the pdf viewers on this sparc are too old to display it properly
[13:30] < daja77> *argh* display features guide (shockwave version)
[13:34] < daja77> bye folks, have to go to a lecture
[13:34] < daja77> cu
[13:34] < _NULL_> bye daja77
[13:55] < rxr> *lol*:Found 26763 new/updated files in source tree:
[13:55] < _NULL_> hi rxr
[13:56] < _NULL_> rock increased during night?
[13:56] < blindcoder> rxr: did clifford do a ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch?
[13:57] < rxr> no - I moved my builds from my build-box's rsync tree to an svn synced tree ;-)
[13:57] < blindcoder> oh... okay
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[14:25] < senaxl> Huhu
[14:26] < blindcoder> hi
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[14:33] < _NULL_> hi rolla
[14:33] < rolla> re
[14:33] < rolla> much better now :)
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[14:35] < blindcoder> re rolla
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[15:06] < esden> re hi all
[15:07] < blindcoder> hi esden
[15:07] < esden> hi blindcoder
[15:07] < rolla> re esden
[15:07] < blindcoder> esden: overslept again? *g*
[15:08] < esden> noo
[15:08] < esden> I was in the uni
[15:08] < blindcoder> slept at uni? :D
[15:08] < blindcoder> esden: I taught keepnick.pl what NickServ is :)
[15:09] < esden> blindcoder: very nice
[15:09] esden is currently learning m4 ;-)
[15:09] < blindcoder> why that?
[15:09] < esden> because I want to make the configuration of uclibc in m4
[15:10] < esden> and I want to cleanup linux* packet configuration
[15:10] < esden> to be more consistant
[15:11] < blindcoder> hmm... kay
[15:11] < blindcoder> esden: you'll see the new keepnick.pl in action in a few minutes
[15:11] < esden> clifford is using m4 there but most of the logic is made in shellscripts ... so if he uses m4 it should be made correctly ... and not the way it is now
[15:11] < esden> o_O
[15:11] < esden> teledum reconnect?
[15:11] < blindcoder> yes
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[15:17] < blindcod1r> re
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[15:18] < blindcoder> okay
[15:18] < blindcoder> that still needs some work :)
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[15:20] < Mike1> hi.
[15:20] < blindcoder> moin Mike1
[15:20] < Mike1> moin blindy
[15:20] < _NULL_> hi Mike1
[15:20] Mike1 is looking for a job...
[15:21] < blindcoder> Mike1: you were fired?
[15:21] < Mike1> ack. :(
[15:21] < _NULL_> Mike1: huh? i thought you're going to sing.?
[15:21] < blindcoder> shit... why that?
[15:21] < Mike1> _NULL_: yes i will but not yet, SARS is to dangerous to take the risk yet
[15:21] < _NULL_> urgs. full ack
[15:21] < Mike1> blindcoder: the company (informatica) is going bank broke.
[15:22] < _NULL_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! FSCK!
[15:22] < Mike1> _NULL_: for now i just do contractor work for them.
[15:22] < blindcoder> shit... that sucks...
[15:22] < _NULL_> that's cruel shit!
[15:22] < Mike1> _NULL_: one SARS is gone i will move.
[15:22] < Mike1> blindcoder: _NULL_ yup it does, i will only be here for a few more days
[15:22] < _NULL_> hm... will take some time, i guess :-(
[15:22] < Mike1> then iw ill vanish for sometime...
[15:23] < _NULL_> dammit. and it wasn't clear longer before?
[15:23] < Mike1> _NULL_: how do you mean?
[15:23] < _NULL_> Mike1: didn't you know some month or so ago, that the company will be bancrupt
[15:24] < Mike1> _NULL_: yeah we were specting that, but it still sucks.. i just needed some more time.
[15:24] < rolla> Mike1:
[15:24] < Mike1> _NULL_: anyways i will see what i can do.
[15:24] < Mike1> hi rolla
[15:24] < _NULL_> Mike1: full ack. :-( have luck looking for a new job
[15:25] < Mike1> _NULL_: maybe you need an asistant? :)
[15:25] < _NULL_> Mike1: hehe. nobody will be hired by our company. but someone will be fired *sigh*
[15:26] < Mike1> ouch.
[15:26] < _NULL_> Mike1: jup
[15:27] _NULL_ could be "happy" if she still can continue her training (which will normally end end of august 2004)
[15:28] Mike1 removing all his data from the informatica servers...
[15:36] < esden> SARS????
[15:36] < esden> hi Mike1! god bless you
[15:36] < _NULL_> hi esden
[15:37] < _NULL_> esden: SARS = the "disaese" (lungenkrankheit) which is in china and so on...
[15:37] < esden> ahh yes ...
[15:37] < esden> I allways hear it ... I never read about it ...
[15:37] < Mike1> god bless you esdy
[15:37] < _NULL_> www.spiegel.de is your friend, esden
[15:37] < blindcoder> esden: will you be in IN tomorrow evening/thursday/friday?
[15:38] < esden> I will be tomorrow in IN ... why?
[15:38] < blindcoder> hmm... I need someone to go to with my inline skates
[15:38] < blindcoder> Just my usual tour gets boring over time
[15:39] < esden> _NULL_: /me not going to that part of the world ... so I do not have to read about it ... it is enough that I hear it in tv from time to time
[15:39] < _NULL_> esden: NACK
[15:39] < esden> hmm ... /me not having skates @ blindcoder
[15:39] < blindcoder> esden: but you do have a bike :)
[15:40] < blindcoder> _NULL_: please... spare us from your views on news and politics, will you?
[15:40] < esden> and wenesday is already full ... I am not sure if I will be able to find time to go skating ... >_<
[15:40] < esden> or biking
[15:40] < blindcoder> :P
[15:40] < _NULL_> oh oh... someone is planning evil stuff (sports)
[15:40] < esden> sorry I promissed some people already that I will meet them
[15:40] < blindcoder> _NULL_: not planning. DOING.
[15:40] < blindcoder> esden: no problem.
[15:40] < _NULL_> blindcoder: haha :p even more evil
[15:41] < blindcoder> esden: I'll ask Darki then.
[15:41] < esden> sorry blindcoder :-(
[15:42] < esden> Mike1: have you tired to ask chris to do remote work?
[15:45] < Mike1> i am doing it remote work already
[15:47] < esden> ahh ok
[15:49] blindcoder going home
[15:49] < blindcoder> baba
[15:52] < _NULL_> bye blindy
[15:55] < senaxl> i take a look at "rock-src-1.7-200303192343", i dont want to build the dietlibc, is the following command enough? $ sed -e 's/ DIETLIBC//' packages > packages.new
[16:01] < esden> senaxl: are you trying to build the dietlibc target?
[16:01] < senaxl> no!
[16:01] < esden> when you do that then packages like gcc3 and linux24 will also not be built
[16:02] < esden> they also have the DIETLIBC tag
[16:02] < senaxl> i dont want linux24, but gcc3 :)
[16:02] < esden> so do it the propper way and deselect dietlibc in the ./scripts/Config
[16:02] < senaxl> hm.
[16:03] < senaxl> -> export ROCKCFG_DIETLIBC='0'
[16:03] < senaxl> but it will be build..
[16:03] < esden> haeh?
[16:03] < esden> you mean the dietlibc package
[16:04] < esden> look more carefulli in the config menue
[16:04] < senaxl> hm? *g*
[16:04] < esden> there is a place where you can deselect packages
[16:04] < esden> I still can not understand why you want to deselct it
[16:04] < senaxl> wait :)
[16:10] < senaxl> i dont want the dietlibc support, so i had desecleted it (ROCKCFG_DIETLIBC=0) - but the build script, build "with dietlibc" support...
[16:10] < esden> which target are you building?
[16:11] < senaxl> generic...
[16:11] < senaxl> "(X) Generic ROCK Linux" :)
[16:11] < Mike1> senaxl: dietlibc is disabled on generic by default..
[16:11] < senaxl> *g*
[16:11] < senaxl> he build with dietlibc support...
[16:11] < esden> where?
[16:12] < esden> where have you read that
[16:12] < Mike1> senaxl: did you at least took the time to look at target/generic/* before making your own stuff?
[16:12] < senaxl> when you start the Build script,
[16:12] < esden> the only two targets that use dietlibc by default are "dietlibc target" and "boot disks target"
[16:12] < Mike1> senaxl: it build the dietlibc _package_ not _with_ dietlibc
[16:13] < esden> senaxl: which build script? ./scripts/Build-Target
[16:13] < senaxl> esden: yes.
[16:13] < esden> paste me more lines of the output to my query
[16:14] < senaxl> ok, the next time :)
[16:14] < esden> next time?
[16:15] < esden> senaxl: we can not help you when you are not providing enough debugging information ... I do not have a glass orb here to look in and see what is going on with your build
[16:15] < senaxl> i have canceled the "building"
[16:16] < Mike1> so restart it..
[16:16] < esden> so cut and paste the content of the termnal
[16:16] < esden> or restart the build
[16:16] < senaxl> i know :)
[16:17] < esden> or open ./build/<some build directory>/logs/build_target
[16:17] < esden> there is the whole output
[16:17] < senaxl> ok.
[16:18] < esden> ohh it is called ./build/<some build directory>/logs/build_target.log
[16:19] < mnemoc> does anyone have a patch for -lattr of 1-acl?
[16:21] < Mike1> mnemoc: read query
[16:22] < mnemoc> 1-acl has a known issue...
[16:22] < mnemoc> it tries to find libacl on host system
[16:23] < mnemoc> instead of tool.cross
[16:37] < esden> mnemoc: clifford said that he is on it
[16:38] < mnemoc> great
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[16:57] < rxr> mnemoc: esden I just remembered Cliff about this ;-)
[16:58] < rxr> Committed revision 55.
[17:02] < esden> huhu rxr
[17:03] esden tagging packages with UCLIBC tags
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[17:10] < rxr> hi esden
[17:10] < rxr> hm:
[17:10] < rxr> heap:/home/svn # du -csh *
[17:10] < rxr> 8.4M gsmp
[17:10] < rxr> 93M rock-linux
[17:10] < rxr> 102M total
[17:12] < esden> rock is getting big ... or is that an svn overhead
[17:14] < mnemoc_> bdb :)
[17:16] < rxr> jups bdb transaction stuff
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[17:16] < rxr> err by the way this is not a checkout - this are the repositories on the server !!!
[17:17] < esden> that is clear
[17:18] < blindcoder> rehi
[17:18] < blindcoder> WEE
[17:18] blindcoder going to watch CCS
[17:18] < blindcoder> be back MUCH later
[17:19] < esden> ok ... added UCLIBC tags to 52 packages
[17:20] < rxr> It doesn't get this big for a local working copy ...
[17:20] < esden> re blindcoder
[17:20] < esden> rxr: yes ... but what is about the .svn directorys?
[17:25] < rxr> just the usual cache like you have with CVS with the CVS dirs, too.
[17:26] < esden> ack
[17:27] < rxr> esden: are all the uclib tags already tested ?
[17:27] < rxr> or only wild guesses ?
[17:27] < esden> guesses based on the DIETLIBC tags
[17:27] < esden> I will see if they compile when I am ready creating the uclibc target ;-)
[17:28] < esden> it now looks pretty promissing cuz uclibc is supporting native installation and there is an example how to convince gcc to use uclibc by default
[17:38] < rxr> the 2.4.21-rc1 kernel is strange it swaps much more - this might be nice for servers - but not for my desktop ...
[17:39] < rxr> jackson:~$ free
[17:39] < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached
[17:39] < rxr> Mem: 514992 498968 16024 0 94972 266320
[17:39] < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 137676 377316
[17:39] < rxr> Swap: 524624 77392 447232
[17:39] < rxr> every 10 minutes I do s.th. different half of my desktop apps have to be ript out of the swap :-(
[17:39] < rxr> (of course compiling two ROCK targets in the background ...)
[17:40] < esden> rxr: so do not wonder ;-)
[17:48] < rxr> nope this is a shame - and should be more smooth.
[17:48] < rxr> and in fact it was better in 2.4.20 ...
[17:50] < esden> hmm ... I can not compare
[17:50] < rxr> the box has 377,316 MB of free RAM
[17:51] < esden> urgh
[17:51] < rxr> if linux would not use 266,320 for disk cache it would not need to swap out 77,392 MB ...
[17:51] < esden> so the swapping stuff is a problem ...
[17:51] < rxr> jups
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[17:56] < esden> ok off to cinema
[17:57] < esden> cu all later
[17:57] < rxr> much fun esden
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[18:15] < daja77> re
[18:15] < Ge0rG> re :]
[18:15] < daja77> hi Ge0rG
[18:15] < Ge0rG> daja77: :)
[18:22] < rxr> re
[18:27] < daja77> re rxr
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[18:35] < wartix> hi all
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[18:49] < kasc> yippie! finally online again!
[18:50] < kasc> i urgently need help! anyone awake?
[18:51] Mike1 is awake
[18:52] < rxr> kasc: jups
[18:52] < kasc> for some weird reason my whole /etc went to /lost+found... could you help me reconstruct it?
[19:02] < rxr> ourhgs. Sorry I have not much practice in e2fs hacking sorry.
[19:02] < rxr> is the filesystem already checked and consistent?
[19:03] < kasc> i checked it an hopefully got most files recovered but i need to move them to the right places
[19:04] < kasc> oh, in case i should forgot: whenever i am going to try any 2.5.x kernel again, hit me really hard ;)
[19:05] < senaxl> *g*
[19:06] < kasc> anyways there are lots of files that i cant imagine what they should be called...
[19:10] < rxr> reinstall the sysfiles package and copy back the files you know ...
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[19:11] < tcr> moin all
[19:11] < senaxl> hi
[19:19] < kasc> rxr: i dont expect that to help much
[19:20] < kasc> most files from sysfiles have a rock copyright message in them telling roughly what they should be called
[19:22] < kasc> i have a dir with a file called gdk-pixbuf.loaders in it. do you know what the dir should be called?
[19:23] < daja77> hi kasc, tcr, Mike1
[19:23] < kasc> hi daja77
[19:24] < rxr> kasc: no sorry
[19:24] < rxr> is your /var/adm/flists still valid
[19:24] < rxr> you could gerp in it ...
[19:25] < kasc> that would be a good one. at least for the directorys
[19:35] < wartix> re hi all :)
[19:36] < daja77> hi wartix
[19:36] < wartix> what s up daja77
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[19:39] < wartix> lol 1 hour for download 975 Mo
[19:43] < _NULL_> re
[19:48] < rxr> Committed revision 60.
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[19:51] < kasc__> re
[19:52] < _NULL_> re kasc , kasc_ , kasc__ :p
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[19:52] < daja77> kasc^3
[19:52] < _NULL_> cloned kasc
[19:53] < daja77> oh no...
[19:53] < _NULL_> cruel world. - kasc^3 is too much
[19:53] < daja77> ack
[19:53] < kasc__> har! har!
[19:53] < _NULL_> or are this his multiple identities?
[19:54] < _NULL_> (identitaeten)
[19:55] < daja77> it is a kascade ;)
[19:55] < kasc__> just a totally fscked connection
[19:55] < daja77> sure ;)
[19:56] < _NULL_> kasc__: why? i thought you're owning DSL? or are the special friends from "club of telekomikers" doing crap again?
[19:58] < kasc__> no, i m currently reconstructing my /etc and my pppd doesnt seem to like that
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[19:58] < _NULL_> ah. k.
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[19:59] < tcr> moin daja77
[19:59] < daja77> O_o what a surprise
[20:00] < kasc> btw: there should be a symlink in /etc to the default keymap. what should that link be called?
[20:00] < tcr> Huh?
[20:00] < tcr> In 1.6 there a /etc/default.keymap symlink
[20:00] < tcr> that got removed?
[20:01] < kasc> thx
[20:01] < kasc> tcr: my /etc got corrupted and went completely into /lost+found
[20:01] < tcr> U_u,
[20:02] < _NULL_> *lol* now i know why kasc answered to noone "thx" ;p
[20:02] < tcr> daja77: Sorry, I've been away... you know better late than never ;)
[20:02] < daja77> tcr: ack ;)
[20:03] < kasc> and how should the symlink to my timezone should be called?
[20:03] < tcr> wait up
[20:03] < rxr> /etc/localtime -> ../usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin
[20:03] < kasc> thx
[20:04] < tcr> Ah right
[20:04] < kasc> the link to ROCK-VERSION?
[20:04] < rxr> a tip for building ROCK on ReiserFS -> disable tail packing - this should speedup the build to some degree
[20:04] < rxr> this is a file
[20:04] < rxr> jackson:~$ cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION
[20:04] < rxr> ROCK Linux 1.7-snapshot (2003/04/25)
[20:05] < daja77> rxr: who needs reiserfs anyway
[20:05] < kasc> i have a symlink that points to ROCK-VERSION
[20:05] < rxr> daja77: erh? Why shouldn't I need it? It is fast and relyable ...
[20:05] < kasc> but i'm sure it shouldnt be called: /lost+found/#130570 ;)
[20:05] < tcr> None. Well. Allegdly rsv4 should become quite featurerich
[20:05] < daja77> aha, this is new to me
[20:05] < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37 Apr 25 01:46 ROCK-VERSION
[20:05] < rxr> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Apr 25 01:48 VERSION -> ROCK-VERSION
[20:05] < kasc> thx
[20:06] < tcr> rxr: Nope, it's not reliable. We're talking about rsv3, right?
[20:06] < rxr> tcr: jups - and never lost any data
[20:06] < tcr> That
[20:06] < rxr> which from time to time happend to ext2
[20:06] < tcr> That doesnt mean reliable ;)
[20:06] < rxr> and it is much faster for my workloads than ext2/ext3 ...
[20:07] < rxr> tcr: wow - I guess you have not some proof for this ?
[20:07] < tcr> ext3 + htree is actual a very good combination
[20:08] < tcr> rxr: Ext2/3 is one of the few filesystems that can guarantee an almost 100% data integry when restoring/reparing (ie. running fsck after corruption)
[20:08] < rxr> puh - any you spek about reliability
[20:08] < tcr> that's reliability - ??
[20:08] < kasc> now i have a file that i remember controlling who may login via ftp
[20:08] < daja77> *looool* https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ola-29.04.03-002/
[20:08] < kasc> how should that be called?
[20:09] < rxr> tcr: Haeh? It has the same garantee to be uncorrupted after and fscheck tat reiserfs has ...
[20:09] < tcr> rxr: No, it hasn't. Mompls
[20:09] < rxr> and mompls is what?
[20:10] < rxr> a moment pleas maybe ..
[20:10] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[20:10] < Mike1> hi blindy
[20:10] < daja77> hi blindcoder
[20:10] < tcr> rxr: yup, moment please
[20:10] < kasc> hi blindcoder
[20:10] daja77 just can't stop laughing
[20:12] < _NULL_> re blindy
[20:12] < blindcoder> daja77: I don't think that 6 Billion Euros being wasted is funny
[20:13] < _NULL_> who wasted money?
[20:13] < blindcoder> _NULL_: daja's link
[20:13] < daja77> why not, do you remember all those assholes saying let's outsource to save money
[20:13] < daja77> they had a hall on cebit for that bullshit
[20:13] < _NULL_> blindcoder: can't open it...
[20:14] < blindcoder> daja77: yes. and in the process killing IT-Jobs
[20:14] < tcr> rxr: https://www.dignatz.de/d/spotlight/artikel/russisches_roulette_linux-mag_20020605_001.html
[20:14] < _NULL_> (because i'm still compiling X and kde)
[20:14] < blindcoder> _NULL_: 6 Billion Euro wasted due to bad Outsourcing
[20:14] < blindcoder> _NULL_: what about w3m? lynx? telnet?
[20:14] < tcr> telnet, blindcoder ;-D
[20:14] < _NULL_> blindcoder: hm... bad...
[20:15] < blindcoder> daja77: jobs that are vital to people like me bein "Fachinformatiker"
[20:15] < daja77> blindcoder: but I found a funnier news on heise https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/odi-29.04.03-000/
[20:15] < blindcoder> sorry, _I_ can't laugh about it.. only shake my head
[20:15] < daja77> die sco die, for ever
[20:15] _NULL_ points to www.dotcomtod.de (or .com???)
[20:16] tcr is away: shower
[20:16] daja77 still has a crapware 7 around here
[20:17] < rxr> puh - this articles is pure brain-fuck ...
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[20:17] < holyolli> moin
[20:17] < blindcoder> rxr: hehe, I couldn't put it better :)
[20:17] < blindcoder> but what do you expect from heise?
[20:18] < _NULL_> hi holyolli !
[20:18] < holyolli> hi null
[20:18] < daja77> rxr: which one
[20:18] < daja77> hi holyolli
[20:18] < blindcoder> quote from heise: "New Virus found in Linux-kernel. Codename: ptrace"
[20:18] < kasc> i have a file with: set ask askcc append dot save crt in it. Does anyone know how that should be called?
[20:18] < daja77> lol
[20:19] < blindcoder> daja77: indeed
[20:20] < daja77> blindcoder: the braindead winlusers need such news, to point a finger to lin -> you have viruses too, why should I switch...
[20:21] < blindcoder> daja77: yeah. but that's been the moment I finally abandoned anything printed by heise (ct, iX)
[20:21] < daja77> hmm telepolis is quite nice
[20:21] < blindcoder> not that I bought it before, I just borrowed it, but I totally tsope reading it now
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[20:22] < daja77> blindcoder: you need a filter for reading heise, but I don't know better magazines >_<
[20:22] < blindcoder> daja77: but I know somethign better to do: watching Anime :) much more fun
[20:23] blindcoder going there right now
[20:23] < blindcoder> goo night!
[20:23] < daja77> gn8 blindcoder
[20:23] < _NULL_> gnu8 blindcoder
[20:23] < _NULL_> aeh. gn8 even
[20:25] < kasc> gn8 blindcoder
[20:25] < daja77> _NULL_: gnu8 is sweet you know
[20:25] < _NULL_> it was a typo
[20:26] < daja77> hell yeah, but some typos are really great
[20:26] < _NULL_> :p
[20:26] < _NULL_> night - GPL :p
[20:27] < rxr> daja77: the linux magatin link above ...
[20:30] rxr needs a new box - rock builds take too long ...
[20:31] < daja77> ahem rxr didn't you say 2 new boxes...
[20:44] < tcr> rxr: It is
[20:44] < tcr> ?
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[20:49] < _NULL_> hi capchaos :)
[20:49] < capchaos> hey owly
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[21:02] < tsa> hi all
[21:03] < _NULL_> hi tsa
[21:25] < rxr> hi tsa
[21:26] < rxr> Committed revision 62.
[21:33] < tsa> rxr: can you please add cksums to your e17 packages?
[21:33] < tsa> i've had a build abort several times because all of them were incomplete checkouts..
[21:34] tsa sending mail to the list.
[21:36] < rxr> tsa: no this is not possible for cvs checkouts
[21:37] < rxr> the checksum is different on every box - depending on the current random date, time, user, ...
[21:38] < tcr> Hmm, then rather use snapshots that're defined
[21:38] < tfing> rxr: doesn't the date in the cvs:// line assure that everyone get the same version ?
[21:38] < tsa> rxr: ..the date in the cvs url..?
[21:38] < tsa> you don't do cvs "head" checkouts..
[21:38] < tsa> so the cksum should be reproduceable.
[21:38] < rxr> jups but the date of the files in your filesystem
[21:39] < tsa> NAME
[21:39] < tsa> cksum - checksum and count the bytes in a file
[21:39] < tsa> SYNOPSIS
[21:39] < tsa> cksum [OPTION]... [FILE]...
[21:39] < tsa> DESCRIPTION
[21:39] < tsa> Print CRC checksum and byte counts of each FILE.
[21:39] < tsa> -> byte counts of each FILE <-
[21:39] < tsa> user/group don't affect cksum generation
[21:39] rxr needs to check how it is implemented
[21:40] < tcr> Neither ctime, utime, atime
[21:40] < tsa> ok, thx.
[21:40] < tcr> utime? mtime it's called, i think
[21:40] < tfing> btw, you can't put a snapshot name in the cvs:// line
[21:40] < rxr> but I guess it is implemented much easier - and we had this everyone had another checksum - since then we do not do the checksumming of cvs checkouts anymore ...
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[21:43] < rxr> tsa: read the source - it is the checksum of the uncompressed file - not the deflated indifidual files
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[21:44] < rxr> so all the user/group *time informations are in the tar and are different
[21:44] < rxr> sure we could do a chown -R root:root the-checkout and touch them with a special date. - But I guess there will still be differencies ...
[21:45] < rxr> anyway - use the mirrors if unsure ...
[21:45] < tsa> the broken files came from a mirror..
[21:45] < tsa> ..although i don't remember which one it was..
[21:46] < rxr> hm - then Cliff might have an incomplete checkout (maybe due to his slow ISDN line ...)
[21:49] praenti back
[21:49] < praenti> hi everybody
[21:49] < _NULL_> hi praenti
[21:49] < praenti> did anybody a stack smashing protector build in the last few months?
[21:50] < praenti> hi _NULL_
[21:50] < tsa> praenti: i know Be-El tried to do one and failed..
[21:51] < tsa> mompl.
[21:51] < praenti> tsa: looks like a lot of packages have problems with a pam bug
[21:51] < rxr> praenti: there was reported some link problem with application using ld to link instead of gcc itself
[21:52] < praenti> if you compile pam with stack protection you always get a undefinied reference __guard when you use s.th from the pam lib
[21:52] < tsa> <Be-El> der pam-patch ist definitiv noch nicht das wahre
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[21:52] < Be-El> hi ppl
[21:52] < tsa> ;-)
[21:52] < tcr> praenti: patch has been sent fixing that
[21:52] < praenti> hi Be-El
[21:52] < rxr> praenti: jups known problem - see list
[21:52] < tsa> how does the stack-protector stuff work?
[21:54] < Be-El> btw...the pam-patch to make it work with the stack-protector is broken....
[21:54] < tcr> tsa: It's briefly described on the webpage iirc
[21:54] < Be-El> it does not set the symlinks for the shared objects, breaking the build as soon as -lpam is used
[21:55] < praenti> ok. for the moment i disabled stack protector for pam
[21:56] < praenti> you can say that this can be a security hole. and perhaps you are right :-(
[21:56] < praenti> but my build continues
[21:56] < tcr> I personally don't see any point in that stack protector anyway... I only see the disadvantage that it might cause trouble with debugging/coding
[21:58] < rxr> tcr: you try to confince us of some FS useage and do not see any point in the SSP ...
[21:58] rxr *wondering*
[21:59] < tcr> rxr: you try to convince us of my dumbness and do not see that I wrote 'personally' ;)
[22:02] < rxr> no problem - have fun ;-)
[22:04] < Be-El> someone around with a (more or less) finished build ?
[22:05] tcr grins
[22:07] < rxr> Be-El: yes, why ?
[22:07] < Be-El> the --with-ldap option in php need the directory appended
[22:07] < Be-El> .oO ( at least the last time i did a build..... )
[22:11] < rxr> hm - php and ldap might not be in my desktop build
[22:11] < rxr> do you need some info - or is this a request do fix s.th. there ? ;-)
[22:12] < Be-El> nope, it a request to find someone who tests the patch and might send it to the mailing list
[22:12] < Be-El> since i got no active build to test it...
[22:13] < rxr> ah - sure send it over ;-)
[22:13] rxr merging anthing ....
[22:13] < Be-El> diff -r1.7 php.conf
[22:13] < Be-El> 38c38
[22:13] < Be-El> < [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_PHP_openldap" = 1 ] && var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-ldap"
[22:13] < Be-El> ---
[22:13] < Be-El> > [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_PHP_openldap" = 1 ] && var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-ldap=/opt/openldap"
[22:14] tsa considers a patch removing package/rene/* ;-)
[22:15] < rxr> tcr: not "applying" bug _"merging"_ such a stuff will be merged into /dev/null ...
[22:15] < rxr> er s/tcr/tsa/
[22:16] < tsa> hehe
[22:16] < rxr> hm - the hardcoded path is not that perfect
[22:16] < Be-El> i know, but there's no config option for openldap yet
[22:16] < rxr> openldap should announce the path and such a variable could be used there ...
[22:16] < rxr> but for now this might be ok ;-)
[22:17] < rxr> ;-) No no unecessary options - we have such a propagation already in mysql or so I think ...
[22:17] rxr need to take a look after rewriting some kernel patches
[22:19] < dreamind> Hi
[22:25] < tcr> Ok, guys, I'm gonna sleep now. Cu
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[22:32] < praenti> ok. also sleeping
[22:32] < praenti> gn8
[22:33] < daja77> gn8 praenti
[22:33] < Be-El> cu praenti
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[22:53] < rxr> Be-El: https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/package/clifford/mysql/mysql.conf
[22:53] < rxr> is what I mean with propagating config flags ;-)
[23:06] < _NULL_> gn8
[23:07] < Be-El> hmm...does the current rock put all aclocal files into a single directory ?
[23:08] < rxr> Committed revision 68.
[23:10] Mike1 realizes that rxr has an obsession with revisions...
[23:15] < daja77> Mike1: hello
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[23:38] < Mike1> hi daja77
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[23:47] < rxr> Mike1: nope o obsession - simply working to get stable out ...
[23:47] < rxr> s/ o / no /
[23:48] < Mike1> rxr: excellent :)
[23:49] < Mike1> rxr: btw congratulations for the Maintainence Master rxr :)
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[23:53] < armijn> re
[23:53] < daja77> hey armijn here, welcome
[23:53] < Mike1> wb mr drunk
[23:53] < armijn> mr drunk?
[23:53] < Mike1> i mean hi armijn :)
[23:53] < armijn> excuse me?
[23:53] < Mike1> armijn: just kidding :)
[23:53] < armijn> I hope so...
[23:53] < daja77> armijn: how is life?
[23:53] < armijn> otherwise I really got to worry about my reputation
[23:54] < armijn> I spent all day battling XP
[23:54] < armijn> new machine, needed to make it dual boot
[23:54] < daja77> *argh* why that
[23:54] < armijn> Red Hat 9 installed flawlesly
[23:54] < daja77> hehe really?
[23:54] < armijn> I'm preparing a machine, so we can make images for it to install on the other 9 machines
[23:55] < armijn> with ghost
[23:55] < daja77> man kickstart
[23:55] < armijn> yeah, Red Hat was no problem at all
[23:55] < armijn> XP can't be installed with RH kickstart
[23:55] < daja77> d'oh yes
[23:55] < armijn> when we bought the machines it was agreed they would be dual boot
[23:56] < daja77> :(
[23:56] < armijn> not bad for a lab that was initially funded by Microsoft ;-)
[23:56] < daja77> *lol*
[23:56] < armijn> contract ended nearly 2 years ago, so...
[23:56] < armijn> and these machines aren't paid for by MS
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[23:58] daja77 hates dual boot pools, if you need a ssh connection to one of the machines, they're all running windows >_<
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