--- Log opened Mon Aug 04 00:00:07 2003 00:00 < daja77> failures so far 00:00 < daja77> [5] rene/bitstream-vera-fonts [5] base/sendmail 00:00 < daja77> [5] tsa/wxwindows [5] nikolaus/cheapskatefonts 00:00 < daja77> 4 of 241 00:02 < daja77> ok wxwindows err is obsolete? 00:02 < tsa> what error do you get? 00:02 < tsa> no xfree etc found? 00:03 < daja77> checking for gtk-config... (cached) no 00:03 < daja77> checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.3... no 00:03 < daja77> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found 00:03 < daja77> *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in 00:03 < daja77> *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the 00:03 < daja77> *** full path to gtk-config. 00:03 < daja77> configure: error: 00:03 < daja77> Please check that gtk-config is in path, the directory 00:04 < tsa> ah, ok...that one should be fixed by now...problem witht build order.. 00:04 < daja77> ok 00:04 < rxr> bitstream-... is now fixed, too 00:04 < daja77> cheapskatefonst has a strange error 00:04 < tsa> $ python -V 00:04 < tsa> Python 2.3 00:05 < tsa> == 23:55:45 =[9]=> Building tsa/wxwindows [2.4.1 2.0.0-rc1]. 00:05 < daja77> it seems that it try to access /usr stuff >_< 00:05 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr 00:06 < daja77> gimme rxr back! 00:07 < fake> the current openldap package gives me the creeps... 00:07 < fake> no log and no debug output 00:08 < fake> it is much tooo queit if built without debug flags 00:08 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: praenti, n00kie 00:08 < daja77> damn server upgrade 00:08 < tsa> hehe 00:09 < fake> never serve a running toucher... 00:10 * fake has a tv next to him 00:10 < daja77> i mean freenode server update 00:10 < fake> daja77: i know 00:10 < fake> just wanted to make some noise 00:10 < daja77> good ... 00:11 < daja77> OH GOOD; NOISE IS GOOD FOR THE EARRS 00:11 < fake> oh, celebrity deathmatch on MTV 00:11 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Freak, fake 00:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak 00:13 < daja77> welcome lonely guest 00:14 < daja77> damn /me on orwell too 00:20 < Freak> huh 00:20 < Freak> like "on drugs"? 00:33 < daja77> no on that damn server that disconnects everybody 00:34 < daja77> you are the only one who returned 00:35 < daja77> damn network today 00:35 < daja77> anyway cu 00:38 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Freak 00:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak 00:43 < esden> ahh ... ok ... there is the message from lilo 00:44 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.226] has joined #rocklinux 00:45 < d3mian> hi 00:56 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Freak, d3mian, kasc, mistik1 00:57 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak 01:01 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Ge0rG, gomer, aszlig 01:08 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, cytrinox 01:10 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4D2A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:11 -!- SMP [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:12 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, daja77, Aard 01:21 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:21 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 01:21 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003] 01:21 (Users #rocklinux) 01:21 [ Aard ] [ esden] [ gomer ] [ n00kie ] [ praenti] [ tsa] 01:21 [ cytrinox] [ fake ] [ hopelessOwl] [ Nebukadneza] [ rolla ] 01:21 [ d3mian ] [ Freak] [ kasc ] [ netrunner ] [ rxr ] 01:21 [ daja77 ] [ Ge0rG] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ snyke ] 01:21 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 21 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 01:21 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 01:21 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F702.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:22 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 19 secs 01:28 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.226] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:31 < rxr> erhm - we are at revision 1000 ... 01:31 < rxr> s.o. still awake ? 01:32 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.193.32.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:33 < n00kie> yes rxr 01:33 < tsa> yes. 01:33 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.193.32.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:34 < tsa> GRR 01:34 < tsa> i hate python. 01:35 * rxr too ... 01:35 < tsa> as it seems, a standard (configure, make, make install) isntallation of wxpython does not install wxpython, but wxwindows. 01:35 < tsa> to get wxpython, you'll have to install addtional stuff from a special subdir. 01:36 < tsa> hell, this is ugly. 01:36 < tsa> (expect further patching soon) 01:39 < rxr> my rs6k is now migrating to a new root ... 01:43 < rxr> s/my/the/ 01:51 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-154.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 01:51 < esden> rxr: I have seen that ... 01:51 < esden> you spend a beer for that ;) 01:51 < esden> I mean that with the 1000th revision 01:54 -!- NUMA [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:55 -!- NUMA [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has left #rocklinux () 01:55 -!- NUMA [~stefanp@80.65.41.2] has joined #rocklinux 01:56 -!- NUMA is now known as SMP 02:10 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M287P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:17 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A228.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:21 < tsa> rxr: please remove my wxwindows package - wxwindows is already included in the wxpython package (patch still pending on list) 02:22 < tsa> (wxpython doesn't currently build correctly , but i'll send an additional patch as soon as i get it fixed) 02:22 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909046.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:27 < SMP> tsa: hmmm 02:27 < SMP> tsa: would be nice to have wxwindows as a seperate package, I think 02:28 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M319P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:28 -!- Freak [~freak@p508B0F14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exciting") 02:30 -!- n00kie_ [~n00kie@M287P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 02:32 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:45 < rxr> tsa: yes - I want a vanilla wxwindows package ... 02:50 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("leaving") 02:52 < rolla> re 02:53 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:55 < tsa> ok, keep it then. i'll try to strip down the wxpython package to install nothing but wxpython itself, then. 02:56 < rolla> re 02:57 < tsa> you better don't apply my patch adding wxpython until i fixed this to avoid the "shared files" problem.. 02:57 < tsa> i'll resend later. 03:00 < rxr> tsa: ok - ack 03:00 < rxr> gn8 03:01 < tsa> cu rxr 03:02 < n00kie> Sleep well, rxr. 03:20 < esden> ok ... /me off to berlin 03:23 < n00kie> Have fun esden! :) 03:26 * Ge0rG is going in 30minx 03:26 < Ge0rG> -x+s 03:28 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Real Life is just an illusion caused by IRC deprivation") 03:33 < tsa> ok, python patch sent. 03:33 < tsa> n8 03:33 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E1267D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 04:51 -!- n00kie [~n00kie@M287P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 07:05 < blindcoder> moin 07:10 < hopelessOwl> moin 07:12 < blindcoder> moin moin owly 07:15 < blindcoder> WEE 07:15 < blindcoder> only two more kilos to go ^^ 07:24 < hopelessOwl> hoeh? 07:33 < hopelessOwl> gn8. i'm sleeping again *yawn* 07:34 < blindcoder> 101.7 kilos this morning ^^ 07:35 < hopelessOwl> is this good or bad? 07:35 < blindcoder> that's ten kilos down from three months ago ^^ 07:35 < hopelessOwl> i c. 07:35 < hopelessOwl> well. how comes? 07:36 < blindcoder> jwell, three months ago I decided that I want to loose weight. And so I did it ^^ 07:37 < hopelessOwl> yeah... but how? did you now finally attend the fitnessstudio regularly, or not? 07:37 < blindcoder> well, regularly is bound to definition 07:38 < blindcoder> about 2 times a week I'm there 07:38 < blindcoder> and I've completely changed my way of eating 07:38 < hopelessOwl> O_o 07:38 < hopelessOwl> completely changed...? 07:38 < blindcoder> yes 07:39 < hopelessOwl> <-- lost about 9 kg in ca. 2 month 07:39 < blindcoder> yes, but for another reason, I suppose 07:40 < hopelessOwl> not eating much && sports (bike, horse-riding) 07:41 < blindcoder> hmhm 07:41 < blindcoder> I also just ate less. 07:41 < blindcoder> About one pretzel in the morning 07:41 < hopelessOwl> less.... hmmmmm... define less 07:41 < hopelessOwl> 1 or 2 corny-riegel or nothing 07:41 < blindcoder> a few sausages or something else in that size plus a medium-sized saad at lunch 07:42 < blindcoder> usually only an appple or a few bananas for dinner 07:42 < blindcoder> and almost no sweets anymore 07:42 < hopelessOwl> nothing or corny-riegel in lunch 07:42 < hopelessOwl> evening: having lunch (mostly soup. because forced to eat...) 07:43 < hopelessOwl> no sweets --> dead 07:43 < blindcoder> nah, had only one bar of "Ritter Sport" chocolate in the last 3 months 07:44 < blindcoder> no KFC or McD or BK anymore 07:46 < blindcoder> brb, getting breakfast 07:48 < hopelessOwl> wah 07:58 * blindcoder back 08:00 < hopelessOwl> wb blindcoder 08:05 < blindcoder> thx 08:34 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox, mistik1 08:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cytrinox 08:36 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-13-201.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 08:37 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:39 < DeElsasser> moin 08:41 < blindcoder> moin moin 08:50 < DeElsasser> pffff, hot, hot, hot.... 08:51 < blindcoder> ah, air-conditioned room ^^ 08:52 < DeElsasser> :-( 08:56 < blindcoder> I just hope that clifford has some kind af A/C or I'll sleep in my car 09:44 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.223.236.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:51 -!- DeElsasser [~DeElsasse@ANancy-110-1-13-201.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ("Client exiting") 09:53 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.193.32.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:12 < gomer> re 10:13 < blindcoder> hi gomer 11:26 < daja77> moin 11:30 -!- starlord [~starlord@arkanae.org] has joined #rocklinux 11:33 < starlord> can someone say which is better option,using binary install or compiling from source,keep in mind that i cant use march=pentium4 or is that bug fixed? 11:34 < starlord> and if i install using 2beta6 binart,how can i get to use "dev" tree? 11:34 < starlord> s/binart/binary 11:38 < daja77> just do an svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/trunk to get dev src 11:39 < starlord> after binary build,hmm should stone install grub/lilo automatically after install? it didnt for me 11:39 < starlord> and using that 2 beta6 (drock) isos 11:40 < daja77> no you have to do it, you can use stone for grub/lilo setup 11:41 -!- Lorini [~blah@stdw-wh-vip62.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:41 < daja77> O_o 11:42 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 11:42 < daja77> hi blindcoder 11:42 < daja77> and welcome Lorini 11:42 < Lorini> thx :) 11:42 < Lorini> hi 11:42 < daja77> rev 987 build sucks 11:43 < daja77> 897 builds total, 489 completed fine, 12 with errors. 11:45 * daja77 checking commit mails 11:48 < starlord> and what do you think about the binary vs source install? 11:56 < daja77> there is no src install 11:59 < daja77> *grml* how could it happen that build priorities of formally working packages are messed up now? 12:02 -!- starlord [~starlord@arkanae.org] has quit ("Lost terminal") 12:14 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@duenndns.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:14 < daja77> hi Ge0rG 12:14 < Ge0rG> good morning from the camp 12:15 < daja77> oh you are already there, cool 12:15 < daja77> or should i say hot 12:22 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9FF9F8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:23 < Be-El> hi ppl 12:23 < daja77> hi Be-El 12:24 -!- starlord [~starlord@arkanae.org] has joined #rocklinux 12:26 < starlord> daja77:what do you mean by no src install? 12:27 < daja77> this is not gentoo, so you can't install rock with src packages 12:28 < daja77> if you have a suitrable host distribution you can build rock on your own, and then install your self made binaries 12:28 < starlord> oops,*blush*,that was what i meant :) 12:29 < starlord> by compiling it my self and installing it that way versus iso binary install,i have dRock downloaded 12:30 < starlord> but is it usefull if you cant use pentium4 optimisations 12:30 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@duenndns.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 12:31 < daja77> well install rock from cd and building later could be less pain for you 12:32 < starlord> true,and i get faster my first rock install :) 12:32 < daja77> yes 12:33 < starlord> but can i install it manually,for example i choose console install and install rest of the packages i need from cd,does it handle depencies? for example i want to install kde,does it install needed libs,...,or do i need to install myself? 12:34 < daja77> depends 12:34 < daja77> the installer can hadle depencies to some extend, but you should be careful 12:34 < starlord> that wasnt the answer i wanted to hear :) 12:35 < daja77> i can tell you things you want to hear, but that won't help 12:35 < starlord> but in kde case? 12:35 < daja77> you should install qt as well 12:37 < starlord> i guess most less painfull method is install all 12:38 < daja77> yepp 12:55 < daja77> cu later 13:40 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < jsaw> re 13:41 < SMP> hi 13:41 < jsaw> hi 13:41 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-154.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:42 < jsaw> oh oh, forgot a meeting, bbl 13:59 -!- gomer [cherryston@backslashdot.de] has quit ("changing servers") 13:59 -!- gomer [cherryston@backslashdot.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:19 < hopelessOwl> *yawn* i'm so fscking tired... 14:20 < Be-El> try sleeping ;-) 14:20 -!- ank-MB [~ank@dhcp-58-19.cable.amis.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 < hopelessOwl> Be-El: i did till now... 14:24 < Be-El> that's a weird behavior for an owl....perhabs you should shift your sleep periods.... 14:25 -!- starlord [~starlord@arkanae.org] has quit ("leaving") 14:26 < owl> *g* nah 14:26 < owl> but - i didn't sleep much on WE... --> had to sleep very long... today... 14:27 < owl> oh. kewl. that's the wrong irssi... 14:27 < hopelessOwl> *rofl* now on the right irssi... and computer ... 14:27 * Be-El senses confusion.... 14:28 < hopelessOwl> :p why confusion? 14:28 < Be-El> too less owls for too many irssi 14:28 < Be-El> perhabs you should use xchat with several server tabs *duck* 14:29 < hopelessOwl> hehe. nah. 2 irssi... 2 PCs connected to freenode... because one PC in my intranet is downloading, another is updating openbsd sources && isdn --> ssh is not really funny to use 14:30 -!- ank-MB [~ank@dhcp-58-19.cable.amis.net] has left #rocklinux () 14:30 < hopelessOwl> O_o this was too much confusion for ank-MB 14:32 * daja77 infuses anti-confusion gel to owl 14:33 < hopelessOwl> nah. don't infuse something into me. please! 14:33 < daja77> too late 14:34 < hopelessOwl> *grml* 14:34 < Be-El> daja77: do you really want owl to become less confused ? 14:34 < daja77> hmm dunno ... 14:34 < Be-El> imagine what might happen...... 14:35 < daja77> imagination buffer overflow 14:35 < Be-El> .oO ( for god's sake i'm living some meters below the ground.... ) 14:36 < daja77> huh? 14:36 < daja77> cool cellar? 14:36 < Be-El> yeap 14:36 < Be-El> day light is for the weak ;-) 14:37 < daja77> oops postfix security fix from suse 14:37 < daja77> .oO Be-El is an ork 14:37 < Be-El> *grmpf* 14:37 < hopelessOwl> *lol* 14:48 < rolla> re 14:49 < Be-El> hi rolla 14:50 < daja77> hi rolla 14:50 * daja77 now off in the damn light and heat 14:50 < Be-El> daja77: have fun ;-) 14:59 < jsaw> re 14:59 < jsaw> hi all 14:59 < Be-El> hi jsaw 15:01 < jsaw> Be-El: concerning directory perms, we have a "games" group. It would be better to chown the scoredir to root.games, and set 0775 perms. 15:02 < Be-El> so every user that want to play games has to be a member of that group ? 15:02 < blindcoder> no, the games have to be setgid games 15:02 < Be-El> and i would prefer 2775 for the directories 15:02 < jsaw> or that. 15:03 < jsaw> but a world writable directory is definitely a no-go. 15:03 < Be-El> i know...it was the first solution to the problem.....setgid sounds better to me 15:04 < Be-El> but it doesn't fix the problem with the empty directories and the filelists 15:04 < jsaw> do a "touch $dir/.dummy" or something like that for now... 15:04 < Be-El> i did it... 15:05 < Be-El> the dummy file was part of the flist....but the directory permissions weren't set to the right value 15:07 < jsaw> I actually don't like to mention this, but I think, we should do something that I was used to from SuSE: a permissions checker/cron job... 15:09 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9FF9F8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:12 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9FF9F8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:12 < Be-El> re 15:12 < Be-El> damned ide 15:12 < rolla> :) 15:12 < Be-El> damned 2.4 kernel 15:12 < Be-El> damned nforc2 15:12 < jsaw> hehe 15:13 < Be-El> *narf* rock configuration is mixed up 15:13 < jsaw> my X Server gets stuck (-> kbd not working any more) once in a while in a signal loop (NVidia...) 15:14 < Be-El> i've hard kernel locks.... 15:14 < Be-El> completely dead....even num lock doesn't work 15:15 < jsaw> yes, that's how it looks like here also. But the system is alive, only X is crashed (I can still log in from another computer). 15:15 < Be-El> as far as i was able to test it my network connection is dead, too 15:16 < Be-El> even the harddisk led keeps on glowing if the disk was active that moment 15:17 < Be-El> did you ever try to boot a 2.6 kernel on nforce2 boards ? ;-) 15:18 < jsaw> nope (don't have one) 15:18 < Be-El> got some very "nice" effects....the interrupt counter for the internal usb2 and network device starts increasing like hell......wasting about 25% of cpu load ;-) 15:22 < jsaw> Be-El: what mb? 15:22 < Be-El> asus a7n8x 15:35 < Be-El> *narf* scripts/Config is broken 15:40 < jsaw> ? 15:41 < Be-El> the architecture selector is mixed up 15:43 < jsaw> yep. 15:50 < hopelessOwl> huh? 15:53 -!- fake [~fake@pD9E4D340.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:02 -!- Nebukadneza is now known as Nebu^away 16:20 -!- jsaw2 [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:20 -!- jsaw2 [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit (Client Quit) 16:22 < blindcoder> WWEEEEE! 16:22 < blindcoder> Wednesday will be a _good_ day ^^ 16:22 < rolla> ? 16:22 < rolla> why 16:23 < blindcoder> I'll get my new car, my GPS-Receiver, my new PSU-Cable for my Laptop and a new CD-Rom for my Laptop. And it's my day off! 16:28 < hopelessOwl> O_o 16:29 < blindcoder> owl: ?? 16:29 < hopelessOwl> day off 16:29 < rolla> cool 16:30 < blindcoder> owl: yes. Overtime. 16:31 < blindcoder> rolla: yes, indeed :D But I won't be home befor 01:00 AM today for that >_< 16:31 < hopelessOwl> tststs 16:31 < hopelessOwl> hrm. in half an hour my bf will be here :)))) 16:32 * blindcoder now starting a size-optimized build for his laptop which only has a 2GB hard disk 16:32 < blindcoder> hehe, owl stopped fucking computers :D 16:32 < hopelessOwl> *rofl* did i say that? 16:32 < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: target? 16:32 < blindcoder> owl: well, I just assumed it :D 16:33 < blindcoder> owl: since your patch didn't really apply here, I just used minimal, added X xfree and X icewm as well as X vim 16:33 < hopelessOwl> tststs. nah. fscking computers i will do till i'm as short-sightened, that i'm not able to see anymore 16:33 < hopelessOwl> i c 16:33 < hopelessOwl> why did not apply? O_o 16:33 < blindcoder> and now I hope that it will compile :) 16:34 < blindcoder> owl: maybe I was too stupid for it :) 16:34 < hopelessOwl> hrm... i'm currently building it... for my k6-2 16:35 < hopelessOwl> Error logs from svn976-binary-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree-expert: 16:35 < hopelessOwl> 143 builds total, 7 completed fine, 0 with errors. 16:38 < blindcoder> I'm still at downloading sources 16:38 -!- gomer [cherryston@backslashdot.de] has left #rocklinux () 16:39 < blindcoder> The last minimal build (optimized for speed, not for size) was ~800 MB 16:39 < blindcoder> I hope that this one will be around that, too, so that I have enough space for a lot of maps :D 16:39 < blindcoder> (maps generously provided by Microsoft) 16:41 < blindcoder> everyone is shocked :D 16:42 < hopelessOwl> *lol* 16:42 < blindcoder> https://www.vicinity.com/gif?&CT=48.5:11.0:500000&IC=&W=1280&H=1024&FAM=myblast&LB= 16:42 < blindcoder> maps are like this 16:42 < blindcoder> details go until 250 meters 16:42 < blindcoder> on one 1280x1024 map 16:43 < hopelessOwl> .oO(guess blindcoder is in a strange mood) 16:43 < blindcoder> whyL 16:44 < hopelessOwl> because you're mentioning, that you're using microsoft-maps in #rocklinux :p 16:46 < blindcoder> I rip the maps from them :D 16:48 < blindcoder> that's not the same as paying them 16:49 < hopelessOwl> i c. 16:54 < jsaw> cu l8r 16:54 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:23 -!- fake [~fake@pD9EB7148.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:28 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9E4DAC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 < rolla> re fake 17:52 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9588D3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:53 < tsa> hi all. 17:53 < Be-El> hi tsa 17:55 < daja77> lol ximian bought by novell 17:55 < tsa> huh? 17:55 < tsa> ah 17:55 < tsa> hehe 17:56 < tsa> when will we get ximian netware, then? ;) 17:56 < daja77> dunno 17:56 < daja77> but linux .net should available soon 17:57 < Be-El> or novell will drop that java gui interface to their servers ;-) 17:57 < blindcoder> When hell freezes over. I hope. 17:57 < daja77> https://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030804/sfm098_1.html 18:00 * rolla screams 18:01 < daja77> hehe 18:02 < hopelessOwl> linux .NET??? as in mono? 18:02 < daja77> yepp 18:02 < daja77> mono is a ximian project ... 18:03 < Be-El> that's why some of the rock packages are broken ? *duck* 18:03 < daja77> then we can all run owl's leet programs on linux 18:03 < hopelessOwl> leet programs? guess you drunk too much or are dreaming or so.... 18:04 < hopelessOwl> it's .CRAP-shit... *kick* 18:04 < daja77> well we could run it anyway 18:05 < hopelessOwl> yes. including the bugs i'm implementing ;p 18:06 < daja77> sure 18:07 * daja77 wondering if rolla feels better now 18:08 < Be-El> let's get owl a job at microsoft.... 18:09 < hopelessOwl> .oO(someone wants to kill me) 18:09 * daja77 really believes that Be-El is an ork and not from this world ... 18:09 < daja77> btw nice weather outside ... 18:09 < Be-El> *grmpf* 18:10 < daja77> ah the original sound 18:10 < daja77> don't touch me or I tell gimli about it ... 18:10 * Be-El is nice [tm] 18:11 < hopelessOwl> yes. and the world is flat 18:12 < rolla> gimli? 18:13 < hopelessOwl> == 16:36:44 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1]. 18:13 < hopelessOwl> fsck... this is not nice... *grrrrr* 18:15 < daja77> rolla: gimli the dwarve (lotr) 18:18 < hopelessOwl> daja77: do you know if the pkg-selection in "custom-expert-build" is a bit broken? at least if i'm doing 'X openbox' it doesn't insert openbox and so into config/$cfg/config.in 18:18 < daja77> dunno building everything always 18:21 < daja77> rotfl https://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/copy/15372/1.html 18:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506986.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:23 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9FF9F8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:25 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9FF9F8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:25 < Be-El> re 18:27 < daja77> wb Be-El from the cellar 18:28 < Be-El> did i mention that the link/delink tab function in xchat 1.x is broken ;-) 18:28 < Be-El> well....the time has come 18:29 * Be-El will leave the cellar and hunt some food 18:30 < Be-El> if you find some dried corpse the next days, thats me ;-) 18:30 * daja77 will never touch it 18:30 -!- Be-El is now known as BL|shop 18:35 -!- CyBuX [CyBuX@200.69.99.129] has joined #rocklinux 18:35 < daja77> CyBuX: ! 18:36 < CyBuX> hi daja77, howre you? 18:36 < hopelessOwl> wtf is wrong with ./scripts/Create-Diff ???? 18:36 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CAE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:37 < daja77> CyBuX: fine 18:37 < daja77> hoehm? 18:38 < hopelessOwl> if i'm doing a ./scrctip/Create-Diff and trying to apply the patch, i'm getting errors about rejected patches in rock-new... 18:39 < daja77> you are applying the patchto rock-new? 18:40 < daja77> guess the heat confuses you 18:41 < hopelessOwl> nah. i want to apply the patch to rock-trunk (which is a symlink to trunk) ... but... aehm 18:41 < hopelessOwl> moment. want the patch? 18:43 < daja77> ok mail me 18:43 < hopelessOwl> address? 18:45 * daja77 now off 18:46 < hopelessOwl> hm. when will you have a look to my patch? 18:47 < daja77> when my sister leaves me i gues, sorry she comes earlier than i thought 18:47 < hopelessOwl> oki. anyways thx 18:50 < dennis> re 19:26 -!- CyBuX [CyBuX@200.69.99.129] has left #rocklinux () 19:28 < rolla> ggrrr 19:32 -!- hopelessOwl [~owl@D7191.pppool.de] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 19:33 -!- hopelessOwl [~owl@D7191.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:33 < hopelessOwl> rehi 19:51 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:51 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 19:51 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003] 19:51 (Users #rocklinux) 19:51 [ Aard ] [ daja77] [ hopelessOwl] [ mistik1 ] [ praenti] [ snyke] 19:51 [ Be-El ] [ dennis] [ jsaw ] [ Nebu^away] [ rolla ] [ tsa ] 19:51 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] 19:51 [ cytrinox ] [ fake ] [ Lorini ] [ owl ] [ SMP ] 19:51 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 22 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 19:51 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 19:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 23 secs 19:53 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F7D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F702.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 19:54 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 20:23 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-221.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:25 -!- hopelessOwl [~owl@D7191.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:28 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:34 -!- Nebu^away [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-154.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:37 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@p50839474.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:39 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802B74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:55 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802C4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:59 -!- Freak [freak@p508B0F14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:09 -!- Nebukadneza2 [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-221.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 21:12 < netrunne1> hi from da camp 21:12 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 21:12 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-221.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:14 < rxr> re 21:15 < rolla> re 21:17 < Freak> re 21:17 < dennis> re 21:18 < tsa> re 21:19 < rxr> wow - so many re's in a row! 21:19 < Freak> so you *had* to destroy that now ... >;) 21:19 < tsa> rxr: please apply some of the patches on the list... 21:19 < Be-El> hi rxr 21:20 < rxr> tsa: I always do when I'm back home ... 21:20 < rxr> hi Be-El 21:22 * netrunner balancing a wlan antennae on his head for not loosing the link 21:22 -!- christ|an [~christ|an@p50839474.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:25 < esden> re hi all 21:26 * -> esden has network too now!! 21:26 < Be-El> hi esden 21:26 < esden> *jumparound* 21:26 < esden> hi Be-El 21:27 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508929B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:27 < Be-El> esden: don't stumple across that network cable over here ;-) 21:27 < Be-El> s/here/ther/ 21:28 < tsa> hi ripclaw 21:28 < ripclaw> hi tsa 21:28 * ripclaw working 21:30 < tsa> btw...anyone knows what happened to huebi? haven't heard from him for quite a while.. 21:36 < ripclaw> huebi is searching for contracts, he has been without contract for about half a year while working on 1.6-stable... 21:36 < tsa> ah, i see. 21:41 -!- Freak [freak@p508B0F14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:41 < ripclaw> tsa have any experience with spam-prevention 21:44 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2EC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 < tsa> nothing that goes beyond the scope of installing spamassassin.. ;) 21:45 < ripclaw> anything that locally filters ? 21:46 < tsa> no...just on server-side, where local delivery (procmail/cyrus/maildrop/..) takes place. 21:47 < rolla> tsa do you use sendmail? 21:48 < tsa> yes. 21:48 < rolla> :) 21:48 < rolla> I have just installed the new sendmail on my rock 2.0-rc1 box 21:49 < rolla> and I am haivng trouble figuring out what the perms and ownership of the dirs should be :( 21:49 < rolla> Cannot write ./dfh74KIX9S030735 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied 21:50 < tsa> -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 599628 May 14 19:19 /usr/sbin/sendmail 21:50 < tsa> drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 48 Aug 4 21:46 /var/spool/clientmqueue/ 21:50 < tsa> drwx------ 2 root root 48 Aug 4 21:46 /var/spool/mqueue/ 21:50 < jsaw> re 21:50 < jsaw> tsa: I have an update for the nvidia driver, interested? 21:50 < tsa> sure ;) 21:51 < jsaw> usual procedure: I send it to the list, and you confirm it? 21:51 < tsa> ok. 21:51 < rolla> an not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied 21:51 < rolla> s/an/can/ 21:51 < ripclaw> ls 21:52 < tsa> ls: /home/ripclaw/: Permission denied 21:53 < rxr> oh - we have 884 packages now - I estimate 900 for 2.0.0-final ... 21:53 < tsa> rolla: permissions/ownership of /var/spool/clientmqueue are what on your system? 21:53 < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -ld /var/spool/clientmqueue 21:54 < rolla> drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp root 720 2003-08-04 15:18 /var/spool/clientmqueu 21:54 < rxr> jsaw: the rockplug stuff looks good! 21:54 < rxr> jsaw: what we meant with hwscan unification is: 21:54 < jsaw> rxr: good to hear, phew. 21:54 < tsa> rolla: chgrp smmsp /var/spool/clientmqueue 21:54 < rxr> a /sbin/rockscan 21:54 < rxr> wich will be called with -$system -$deviceid bla bla 21:55 < rxr> and which then executes the proper 21:55 < rxr> /sbin/rockscan.$system with the parameters left over 21:55 < tsa> (your sendmail should be setgid "smmsp" and needs to see the queue directoy.. 21:55 < rolla> t: Cannot write ./dfh74KYx9S030795 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied 21:55 < tsa> ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail ? 21:55 < rxr> IISTC this should be "easily" arrangeable in the current rockplug 21:56 < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail 21:56 < rolla> -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 597157 2003-08-03 20:33 /usr/sbin/sendmail 21:56 < rxr> and this way it is possible to use only the /sbin/rockscan* files for embedded, bootdisk cases - or (with a special option) to generate the initrd modules ... 21:56 < tsa> ok, sendmail permissions are ok - just fix the clientmqueue stuff and you should be ok. 21:57 < rolla> I did 21:57 < owl> moin 21:57 < dennis> moin owl 21:57 < owl> hi dennis 21:57 < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -ld /var/spool/clientmqueue 21:57 < rolla> drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 784 2003-08-04 15:34 /var/spool/clientmqueue 21:57 < netrunner> moin owl 21:57 < tsa> rolla: restarted sendmail afterwards? 21:57 < rolla> doh 21:57 < owl> hi netrunner 21:57 < owl> daja77: here? 21:58 < rolla> tsa nope still it does not work 21:59 < tsa> uh? 21:59 < tsa> sounds strange. 22:00 < rolla> yeah 22:00 < rolla> collect: Cannot write ./dfh74KeD3l030863 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied 22:00 < rolla> that is what I get in my /var/log/mail file 22:00 < tsa> gid=101? 22:00 < rolla> ? 22:00 < tsa> what's that on your system? 22:01 < tsa> (smmsp gid is 25 afaik) 22:01 < rolla> nothing 22:01 < rolla> sorry 22:01 < rolla> it is smmsp 22:01 < tsa> hm. 22:01 < rolla> tsa it has to be 25? 22:02 < tsa> hm...Docementation/Developers/REGISTER mentions 18 for both uid and gid smmsp 22:02 < tsa> no, it hasn't, i was just wondering.. 22:02 < rolla> okay 22:03 < rolla> are they both 18 on your system? 22:03 < rolla> sendmail must be a set-group-ID (default group: smmsp, recommended 22:03 < tsa> no, i have both of them with 25, but this is a custom-built sendmail 22:03 < rolla> gid: 25) 22:04 < rolla> same here 22:04 < tsa> better have a look at op.ps in the sendmail docs, all the required permissions are mentioned there.. 22:04 < rolla> okay 22:04 < rolla> I am looking at sendmail/SECURITY right now 22:05 < tsa> ok.. 22:05 < rolla> thanks 22:08 < rolla> tsa it seem the perms /var/spool/mqueue 22:08 < rolla> are what are wrong 22:08 < tsa> root:root, 700 22:08 < rolla> if it is that it cannot write there 22:10 < rolla> thanks I got it fixed 22:11 < tsa> ;) 22:17 < jsaw> rxr: btw, the compiler optimization thing: on of the differences between -O2 and -O3 is -finline-functions IIRC. So for processors with small L1 Cache (e.g. P4), -O3 is most of the time slower than -O2. 22:20 < netrunner> hihi, esden holding a speech about rocklinx is not a dist 22:20 < owl> *g* a speech on CCC-camp? 22:21 < tsa> BTW. 22:21 < tsa> can anyone test koffice and stuff with python 2.3? 22:21 < jsaw> tsa: patch sent and received. 22:22 < tsa> ok. 22:22 < tsa> will ack as soon as it arrives here.. 22:24 < tsa> ack'd. 22:24 < jsaw> novell buys ximian... huh? 22:27 < netrunner> owl: no, to some guy from netherlands :) 22:36 -!- Be-El is now known as BL|play 22:38 < jsaw> brb 22:44 -!- _Caspar_ [~steven261@M121P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:45 -!- _Caspar_ is now known as caspar 22:45 -!- jose__ [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 < jose__> ehlo everbody ! 22:47 < jose__> hm...., Mike1 is not here!, thats odd... 22:49 < rolla> yes he is not here as much as before 22:51 < SMP> hmmm 22:51 < SMP> jsaw: how serious are the problems with the nvidia drivers? 22:51 < jose__> a special reason ?, is he sick ?, fired ?, married ? 22:52 < rolla> he quiet with CR net 22:53 < rolla> quit I mean 22:53 < rolla> so he does not have stable internet access 22:54 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508929B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:54 < jose__> hm..., so bad, and so good, maybe I can find a job in my company!, when he comes back you guys can tell him to call me! 22:54 < rolla> I shall try to remember 22:55 * jose__ works for the company, doesnt own it ! 22:56 < jsaw> re 22:56 < jose__> when did he quit ?, long time ago ? 22:56 < rolla> 1-2 months maybe 22:56 < jsaw> SMP: what do you mean with serious? 22:57 < jsaw> SMP: the usual X lockups... 22:57 < jose__> I can trust you guys!, can't I ? 22:57 < rolla> jsaw: are you having trouble with nvidia drivers? 22:57 < rolla> yes 22:58 < jose__> ok, give him this link: 22:58 < jose__> https://www.hostarica.com/default.php?page=webpages/Careers 22:58 < daja77> mike will come back tomorrow afaik 23:00 < rolla> yeah I emailed him 23:01 < jsaw> rolla: well, don't know exactly if it's the nvidia driver, but I have X lockups (kbd+mouse gone). Killing X (logged in from another box) then causes severe problems (graphics+console gone, I also had fs corruption, and so on). 23:01 < SMP> jsaw: well I did not know there were any 'usual' problems 23:01 < rolla> suck 23:01 < SMP> I guess I will find out 23:01 < jsaw> SMP: read lkml 23:02 < jsaw> (I don't want to say, the nvidia programmers suck, no they do not. But it looks like, they can't keep the pace of kernel changes due to a lack of programmers in numbers) 23:03 < daja77> .oO mike told me to work never for hostarica ... 23:04 < daja77> anyway /me off again 23:04 < jsaw> cu daja77 23:04 < jose__> hey daja77 23:07 < jose__> ok, cool, so, cu, and i wish the best for Mike1 23:07 -!- jose__ [~jose@196.40.45.146] has left #rocklinux () 23:21 < BL|play> bbl 23:21 -!- BL|play [be-el@pD9FF9F8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:33 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2EC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:34 -!- Freak [freak@p508B2EC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 < rxr> re 23:43 < rxr> jsaw: I also always had problem with this nvidia binary crap - when I tried a a year ago in dRock-1.4/6 times ... 23:44 < rxr> SMP: any rock-net related news ? 23:45 < tsa> binary crap? 23:46 < rxr> binary only ... 23:46 -!- cytrinox_ [~cytrinox@p213.54.234.209.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:47 < SMP> rxr: no news :-| 23:48 < rxr> SMP: could you checking the current state, so I can do the C prog - and help with it ? 23:48 < rxr> I thought we want to get this into -rc1 for a real feature freeze ... 23:49 < SMP> it's second on my global todo 23:51 < SMP> fuck! I forgot my password for the Camp reg. 23:52 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.223.236.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:54 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508929B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:55 < SMP> ripclaw: ! you alive? 23:57 < Freak> aaaaah i finally understood the coke-lite-ad 23:57 < Freak> :) 23:58 < Freak> btw guys you should definitely call the next release 9.0 23:59 < SMP> and why can't I use paste at the top level in KEditBookmarks - arrgh --- Log closed Tue Aug 05 00:00:24 2003