-!- Irrsi Log opened Mon Aug 04 00:00:07 2003
[00:00] < daja77> failures so far
[00:00] < daja77> [5] rene/bitstream-vera-fonts [5] base/sendmail
[00:00] < daja77> [5] tsa/wxwindows [5] nikolaus/cheapskatefonts
[00:00] < daja77> 4 of 241
[00:02] < daja77> ok wxwindows err is obsolete?
[00:02] < tsa> what error do you get?
[00:02] < tsa> no xfree etc found?
[00:03] < daja77> checking for gtk-config... (cached) no
[00:03] < daja77> checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.3... no
[00:03] < daja77> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[00:03] < daja77> *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[00:03] < daja77> *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
[00:03] < daja77> *** full path to gtk-config.
[00:03] < daja77> configure: error:
[00:03] < daja77> Please check that gtk-config is in path, the directory
[00:04] < tsa> ah, ok...that one should be fixed by now...problem witht build order..
[00:04] < daja77> ok
[00:04] < rxr> bitstream-... is now fixed, too
[00:04] < daja77> cheapskatefonst has a strange error
[00:04] < tsa> $ python -V
[00:04] < tsa> Python 2.3
[00:05] < tsa> == 23:55:45 =[9]=> Building tsa/wxwindows [2.4.1 2.0.0-rc1].
[00:05] < daja77> it seems that it try to access /usr stuff >_<
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[00:06] < daja77> gimme rxr back!
[00:07] < fake> the current openldap package gives me the creeps...
[00:07] < fake> no log and no debug output
[00:08] < fake> it is much tooo queit if built without debug flags
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[00:08] < daja77> damn server upgrade
[00:08] < tsa> hehe
[00:09] < fake> never serve a running toucher...
[00:10] fake has a tv next to him
[00:10] < daja77> i mean freenode server update
[00:10] < fake> daja77: i know
[00:10] < fake> just wanted to make some noise
[00:10] < daja77> good ...
[00:11] < daja77> OH GOOD; NOISE IS GOOD FOR THE EARRS
[00:11] < fake> oh, celebrity deathmatch on MTV
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[00:13] < daja77> welcome lonely guest
[00:14] < daja77> damn /me on orwell too
[00:20] < Freak> huh
[00:20] < Freak> like "on drugs"?
[00:33] < daja77> no on that damn server that disconnects everybody
[00:34] < daja77> you are the only one who returned
[00:35] < daja77> damn network today
[00:35] < daja77> anyway cu
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[00:43] < esden> ahh ... ok ... there is the message from lilo
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[00:45] < d3mian> hi
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[01:21] -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
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[01:21] (Users #rocklinux)
[01:21] [ Aard ] [ esden] [ gomer ] [ n00kie ] [ praenti] [ tsa]
[01:21] [ cytrinox] [ fake ] [ hopelessOwl] [ Nebukadneza] [ rolla ]
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[01:21] [ daja77 ] [ Ge0rG] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ snyke ]
[01:21] -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 21 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
[01:21] -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003
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[01:31] < rxr> erhm - we are at revision 1000 ...
[01:31] < rxr> s.o. still awake ?
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[01:33] < n00kie> yes rxr
[01:33] < tsa> yes.
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[01:34] < tsa> GRR
[01:34] < tsa> i hate python.
[01:35] rxr too ...
[01:35] < tsa> as it seems, a standard (configure, make, make install) isntallation of wxpython does not install wxpython, but wxwindows.
[01:35] < tsa> to get wxpython, you'll have to install addtional stuff from a special subdir.
[01:36] < tsa> hell, this is ugly.
[01:36] < tsa> (expect further patching soon)
[01:39] < rxr> my rs6k is now migrating to a new root ...
[01:43] < rxr> s/my/the/
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[01:51] < esden> rxr: I have seen that ...
[01:51] < esden> you spend a beer for that ;)
[01:51] < esden> I mean that with the 1000th revision
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[02:21] < tsa> rxr: please remove my wxwindows package - wxwindows is already included in the wxpython package (patch still pending on list)
[02:22] < tsa> (wxpython doesn't currently build correctly , but i'll send an additional patch as soon as i get it fixed)
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[02:27] < SMP> tsa: hmmm
[02:27] < SMP> tsa: would be nice to have wxwindows as a seperate package, I think
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[02:45] < rxr> tsa: yes - I want a vanilla wxwindows package ...
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[02:52] < rolla> re
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[02:55] < tsa> ok, keep it then. i'll try to strip down the wxpython package to install nothing but wxpython itself, then.
[02:56] < rolla> re
[02:57] < tsa> you better don't apply my patch adding wxpython until i fixed this to avoid the "shared files" problem..
[02:57] < tsa> i'll resend later.
[03:00] < rxr> tsa: ok - ack
[03:00] < rxr> gn8
[03:01] < tsa> cu rxr
[03:02] < n00kie> Sleep well, rxr.
[03:20] < esden> ok ... /me off to berlin
[03:23] < n00kie> Have fun esden! :)
[03:26] Ge0rG is going in 30minx
[03:26] < Ge0rG> -x+s
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[03:33] < tsa> ok, python patch sent.
[03:33] < tsa> n8
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[07:05] < blindcoder> moin
[07:10] < hopelessOwl> moin
[07:12] < blindcoder> moin moin owly
[07:15] < blindcoder> WEE
[07:15] < blindcoder> only two more kilos to go ^^
[07:24] < hopelessOwl> hoeh?
[07:33] < hopelessOwl> gn8. i'm sleeping again *yawn*
[07:34] < blindcoder> 101.7 kilos this morning ^^
[07:35] < hopelessOwl> is this good or bad?
[07:35] < blindcoder> that's ten kilos down from three months ago ^^
[07:35] < hopelessOwl> i c.
[07:35] < hopelessOwl> well. how comes?
[07:36] < blindcoder> jwell, three months ago I decided that I want to loose weight. And so I did it ^^
[07:37] < hopelessOwl> yeah... but how? did you now finally attend the fitnessstudio regularly, or not?
[07:37] < blindcoder> well, regularly is bound to definition
[07:38] < blindcoder> about 2 times a week I'm there
[07:38] < blindcoder> and I've completely changed my way of eating
[07:38] < hopelessOwl> O_o
[07:38] < hopelessOwl> completely changed...?
[07:38] < blindcoder> yes
[07:39] < hopelessOwl> <-- lost about 9 kg in ca. 2 month
[07:39] < blindcoder> yes, but for another reason, I suppose
[07:40] < hopelessOwl> not eating much && sports (bike, horse-riding)
[07:41] < blindcoder> hmhm
[07:41] < blindcoder> I also just ate less.
[07:41] < blindcoder> About one pretzel in the morning
[07:41] < hopelessOwl> less.... hmmmmm... define less
[07:41] < hopelessOwl> 1 or 2 corny-riegel or nothing
[07:41] < blindcoder> a few sausages or something else in that size plus a medium-sized saad at lunch
[07:42] < blindcoder> usually only an appple or a few bananas for dinner
[07:42] < blindcoder> and almost no sweets anymore
[07:42] < hopelessOwl> nothing or corny-riegel in lunch
[07:42] < hopelessOwl> evening: having lunch (mostly soup. because forced to eat...)
[07:43] < hopelessOwl> no sweets --> dead
[07:43] < blindcoder> nah, had only one bar of "Ritter Sport" chocolate in the last 3 months
[07:44] < blindcoder> no KFC or McD or BK anymore
[07:46] < blindcoder> brb, getting breakfast
[07:48] < hopelessOwl> wah
[07:58] blindcoder back
[08:00] < hopelessOwl> wb blindcoder
[08:05] < blindcoder> thx
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[08:39] < DeElsasser> moin
[08:41] < blindcoder> moin moin
[08:50] < DeElsasser> pffff, hot, hot, hot....
[08:51] < blindcoder> ah, air-conditioned room ^^
[08:52] < DeElsasser> :-(
[08:56] < blindcoder> I just hope that clifford has some kind af A/C or I'll sleep in my car
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[10:12] < gomer> re
[10:13] < blindcoder> hi gomer
[11:26] < daja77> moin
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[11:33] < starlord> can someone say which is better option,using binary install or compiling from source,keep in mind that i cant use march=pentium4 or is that bug fixed?
[11:34] < starlord> and if i install using 2beta6 binart,how can i get to use "dev" tree?
[11:34] < starlord> s/binart/binary
[11:38] < daja77> just do an svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/trunk to get dev src
[11:39] < starlord> after binary build,hmm should stone install grub/lilo automatically after install? it didnt for me
[11:39] < starlord> and using that 2 beta6 (drock) isos
[11:40] < daja77> no you have to do it, you can use stone for grub/lilo setup
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[11:41] < daja77> O_o
[11:42] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[11:42] < daja77> hi blindcoder
[11:42] < daja77> and welcome Lorini
[11:42] < Lorini> thx :)
[11:42] < Lorini> hi
[11:42] < daja77> rev 987 build sucks
[11:43] < daja77> 897 builds total, 489 completed fine, 12 with errors.
[11:45] daja77 checking commit mails
[11:48] < starlord> and what do you think about the binary vs source install?
[11:56] < daja77> there is no src install
[11:59] < daja77> *grml* how could it happen that build priorities of formally working packages are messed up now?
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[12:14] < daja77> hi Ge0rG
[12:14] < Ge0rG> good morning from the camp
[12:15] < daja77> oh you are already there, cool
[12:15] < daja77> or should i say hot
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[12:23] < Be-El> hi ppl
[12:23] < daja77> hi Be-El
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[12:26] < starlord> daja77:what do you mean by no src install?
[12:27] < daja77> this is not gentoo, so you can't install rock with src packages
[12:28] < daja77> if you have a suitrable host distribution you can build rock on your own, and then install your self made binaries
[12:28] < starlord> oops,*blush*,that was what i meant :)
[12:29] < starlord> by compiling it my self and installing it that way versus iso binary install,i have dRock downloaded
[12:30] < starlord> but is it usefull if you cant use pentium4 optimisations
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[12:31] < daja77> well install rock from cd and building later could be less pain for you
[12:32] < starlord> true,and i get faster my first rock install :)
[12:32] < daja77> yes
[12:33] < starlord> but can i install it manually,for example i choose console install and install rest of the packages i need from cd,does it handle depencies? for example i want to install kde,does it install needed libs,...,or do i need to install myself?
[12:34] < daja77> depends
[12:34] < daja77> the installer can hadle depencies to some extend, but you should be careful
[12:34] < starlord> that wasnt the answer i wanted to hear :)
[12:35] < daja77> i can tell you things you want to hear, but that won't help
[12:35] < starlord> but in kde case?
[12:35] < daja77> you should install qt as well
[12:37] < starlord> i guess most less painfull method is install all
[12:38] < daja77> yepp
[12:55] < daja77> cu later
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[13:40] < jsaw> re
[13:41] < SMP> hi
[13:41] < jsaw> hi
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[13:42] < jsaw> oh oh, forgot a meeting, bbl
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[14:19] < hopelessOwl> *yawn* i'm so fscking tired...
[14:20] < Be-El> try sleeping ;-)
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[14:21] < hopelessOwl> Be-El: i did till now...
[14:24] < Be-El> that's a weird behavior for an owl....perhabs you should shift your sleep periods....
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[14:26] < owl> *g* nah
[14:26] < owl> but - i didn't sleep much on WE... --> had to sleep very long... today...
[14:27] < owl> oh. kewl. that's the wrong irssi...
[14:27] < hopelessOwl> *rofl* now on the right irssi... and computer ...
[14:27] Be-El senses confusion....
[14:28] < hopelessOwl> :p why confusion?
[14:28] < Be-El> too less owls for too many irssi
[14:28] < Be-El> perhabs you should use xchat with several server tabs *duck*
[14:29] < hopelessOwl> hehe. nah. 2 irssi... 2 PCs connected to freenode... because one PC in my intranet is downloading, another is updating openbsd sources && isdn --> ssh is not really funny to use
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[14:30] < hopelessOwl> O_o this was too much confusion for ank-MB
[14:32] daja77 infuses anti-confusion gel to owl
[14:33] < hopelessOwl> nah. don't infuse something into me. please!
[14:33] < daja77> too late
[14:34] < hopelessOwl> *grml*
[14:34] < Be-El> daja77: do you really want owl to become less confused ?
[14:34] < daja77> hmm dunno ...
[14:34] < Be-El> imagine what might happen......
[14:35] < daja77> imagination buffer overflow
[14:35] < Be-El> .oO ( for god's sake i'm living some meters below the ground.... )
[14:36] < daja77> huh?
[14:36] < daja77> cool cellar?
[14:36] < Be-El> yeap
[14:36] < Be-El> day light is for the weak ;-)
[14:37] < daja77> oops postfix security fix from suse
[14:37] < daja77> .oO Be-El is an ork
[14:37] < Be-El> *grmpf*
[14:37] < hopelessOwl> *lol*
[14:48] < rolla> re
[14:49] < Be-El> hi rolla
[14:50] < daja77> hi rolla
[14:50] daja77 now off in the damn light and heat
[14:50] < Be-El> daja77: have fun ;-)
[14:59] < jsaw> re
[14:59] < jsaw> hi all
[14:59] < Be-El> hi jsaw
[15:01] < jsaw> Be-El: concerning directory perms, we have a "games" group. It would be better to chown the scoredir to root.games, and set 0775 perms.
[15:02] < Be-El> so every user that want to play games has to be a member of that group ?
[15:02] < blindcoder> no, the games have to be setgid games
[15:02] < Be-El> and i would prefer 2775 for the directories
[15:02] < jsaw> or that.
[15:03] < jsaw> but a world writable directory is definitely a no-go.
[15:03] < Be-El> i know...it was the first solution to the problem.....setgid sounds better to me
[15:04] < Be-El> but it doesn't fix the problem with the empty directories and the filelists
[15:04] < jsaw> do a "touch $dir/.dummy" or something like that for now...
[15:04] < Be-El> i did it...
[15:05] < Be-El> the dummy file was part of the flist....but the directory permissions weren't set to the right value
[15:07] < jsaw> I actually don't like to mention this, but I think, we should do something that I was used to from SuSE: a permissions checker/cron job...
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[15:12] < Be-El> re
[15:12] < Be-El> damned ide
[15:12] < rolla> :)
[15:12] < Be-El> damned 2.4 kernel
[15:12] < Be-El> damned nforc2
[15:12] < jsaw> hehe
[15:13] < Be-El> *narf* rock configuration is mixed up
[15:13] < jsaw> my X Server gets stuck (-> kbd not working any more) once in a while in a signal loop (NVidia...)
[15:14] < Be-El> i've hard kernel locks....
[15:14] < Be-El> completely dead....even num lock doesn't work
[15:15] < jsaw> yes, that's how it looks like here also. But the system is alive, only X is crashed (I can still log in from another computer).
[15:15] < Be-El> as far as i was able to test it my network connection is dead, too
[15:16] < Be-El> even the harddisk led keeps on glowing if the disk was active that moment
[15:17] < Be-El> did you ever try to boot a 2.6 kernel on nforce2 boards ? ;-)
[15:18] < jsaw> nope (don't have one)
[15:18] < Be-El> got some very "nice" effects....the interrupt counter for the internal usb2 and network device starts increasing like hell......wasting about 25% of cpu load ;-)
[15:22] < jsaw> Be-El: what mb?
[15:22] < Be-El> asus a7n8x
[15:35] < Be-El> *narf* scripts/Config is broken
[15:40] < jsaw> ?
[15:41] < Be-El> the architecture selector is mixed up
[15:43] < jsaw> yep.
[15:50] < hopelessOwl> huh?
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[16:22] < blindcoder> WWEEEEE!
[16:22] < blindcoder> Wednesday will be a _good_ day ^^
[16:22] < rolla> ?
[16:22] < rolla> why
[16:23] < blindcoder> I'll get my new car, my GPS-Receiver, my new PSU-Cable for my Laptop and a new CD-Rom for my Laptop. And it's my day off!
[16:28] < hopelessOwl> O_o
[16:29] < blindcoder> owl: ??
[16:29] < hopelessOwl> day off
[16:29] < rolla> cool
[16:30] < blindcoder> owl: yes. Overtime.
[16:31] < blindcoder> rolla: yes, indeed :D But I won't be home befor 01:00 AM today for that >_<
[16:31] < hopelessOwl> tststs
[16:31] < hopelessOwl> hrm. in half an hour my bf will be here :))))
[16:32] blindcoder now starting a size-optimized build for his laptop which only has a 2GB hard disk
[16:32] < blindcoder> hehe, owl stopped fucking computers :D
[16:32] < hopelessOwl> *rofl* did i say that?
[16:32] < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: target?
[16:32] < blindcoder> owl: well, I just assumed it :D
[16:33] < blindcoder> owl: since your patch didn't really apply here, I just used minimal, added X xfree and X icewm as well as X vim
[16:33] < hopelessOwl> tststs. nah. fscking computers i will do till i'm as short-sightened, that i'm not able to see anymore
[16:33] < hopelessOwl> i c
[16:33] < hopelessOwl> why did not apply? O_o
[16:33] < blindcoder> and now I hope that it will compile :)
[16:34] < blindcoder> owl: maybe I was too stupid for it :)
[16:34] < hopelessOwl> hrm... i'm currently building it... for my k6-2
[16:35] < hopelessOwl> Error logs from svn976-binary-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree-expert:
[16:35] < hopelessOwl> 143 builds total, 7 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[16:38] < blindcoder> I'm still at downloading sources
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[16:39] < blindcoder> The last minimal build (optimized for speed, not for size) was ~800 MB
[16:39] < blindcoder> I hope that this one will be around that, too, so that I have enough space for a lot of maps :D
[16:39] < blindcoder> (maps generously provided by Microsoft)
[16:41] < blindcoder> everyone is shocked :D
[16:42] < hopelessOwl> *lol*
[16:42] < blindcoder> https://www.vicinity.com/gif?&CT=48.5:11.0:500000&IC=&W=1280&H=1024&FAM=myblast&LB=
[16:42] < blindcoder> maps are like this
[16:42] < blindcoder> details go until 250 meters
[16:42] < blindcoder> on one 1280x1024 map
[16:43] < hopelessOwl> .oO(guess blindcoder is in a strange mood)
[16:43] < blindcoder> whyL
[16:44] < hopelessOwl> because you're mentioning, that you're using microsoft-maps in #rocklinux :p
[16:46] < blindcoder> I rip the maps from them :D
[16:48] < blindcoder> that's not the same as paying them
[16:49] < hopelessOwl> i c.
[16:54] < jsaw> cu l8r
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[17:37] < rolla> re fake
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[17:53] < tsa> hi all.
[17:53] < Be-El> hi tsa
[17:55] < daja77> lol ximian bought by novell
[17:55] < tsa> huh?
[17:55] < tsa> ah
[17:55] < tsa> hehe
[17:56] < tsa> when will we get ximian netware, then? ;)
[17:56] < daja77> dunno
[17:56] < daja77> but linux .net should available soon
[17:57] < Be-El> or novell will drop that java gui interface to their servers ;-)
[17:57] < blindcoder> When hell freezes over. I hope.
[17:57] < daja77> https://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030804/sfm098_1.html
[18:00] rolla screams
[18:01] < daja77> hehe
[18:02] < hopelessOwl> linux .NET??? as in mono?
[18:02] < daja77> yepp
[18:02] < daja77> mono is a ximian project ...
[18:03] < Be-El> that's why some of the rock packages are broken ? *duck*
[18:03] < daja77> then we can all run owl's leet programs on linux
[18:03] < hopelessOwl> leet programs? guess you drunk too much or are dreaming or so....
[18:04] < hopelessOwl> it's .CRAP-shit... *kick*
[18:04] < daja77> well we could run it anyway
[18:05] < hopelessOwl> yes. including the bugs i'm implementing ;p
[18:06] < daja77> sure
[18:07] daja77 wondering if rolla feels better now
[18:08] < Be-El> let's get owl a job at microsoft....
[18:09] < hopelessOwl> .oO(someone wants to kill me)
[18:09] daja77 really believes that Be-El is an ork and not from this world ...
[18:09] < daja77> btw nice weather outside ...
[18:09] < Be-El> *grmpf*
[18:10] < daja77> ah the original sound
[18:10] < daja77> don't touch me or I tell gimli about it ...
[18:10] Be-El is nice [tm]
[18:11] < hopelessOwl> yes. and the world is flat
[18:12] < rolla> gimli?
[18:13] < hopelessOwl> == 16:36:44 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
[18:13] < hopelessOwl> fsck... this is not nice... *grrrrr*
[18:15] < daja77> rolla: gimli the dwarve (lotr)
[18:18] < hopelessOwl> daja77: do you know if the pkg-selection in "custom-expert-build" is a bit broken? at least if i'm doing 'X openbox' it doesn't insert openbox and so into config/$cfg/config.in
[18:18] < daja77> dunno building everything always
[18:21] < daja77> rotfl https://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/copy/15372/1.html
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[18:25] < Be-El> re
[18:27] < daja77> wb Be-El from the cellar
[18:28] < Be-El> did i mention that the link/delink tab function in xchat 1.x is broken ;-)
[18:28] < Be-El> well....the time has come
[18:29] Be-El will leave the cellar and hunt some food
[18:30] < Be-El> if you find some dried corpse the next days, thats me ;-)
[18:30] daja77 will never touch it
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[18:35] < daja77> CyBuX: !
[18:36] < CyBuX> hi daja77, howre you?
[18:36] < hopelessOwl> wtf is wrong with ./scripts/Create-Diff <old> <new> ????
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[18:37] < daja77> CyBuX: fine
[18:37] < daja77> hoehm?
[18:38] < hopelessOwl> if i'm doing a ./scrctip/Create-Diff and trying to apply the patch, i'm getting errors about rejected patches in rock-new...
[18:39] < daja77> you are applying the patchto rock-new?
[18:40] < daja77> guess the heat confuses you
[18:41] < hopelessOwl> nah. i want to apply the patch to rock-trunk (which is a symlink to trunk) ... but... aehm
[18:41] < hopelessOwl> moment. want the patch?
[18:43] < daja77> ok mail me
[18:43] < hopelessOwl> address?
[18:45] daja77 now off
[18:46] < hopelessOwl> hm. when will you have a look to my patch?
[18:47] < daja77> when my sister leaves me i gues, sorry she comes earlier than i thought
[18:47] < hopelessOwl> oki. anyways thx
[18:50] < dennis> re
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[19:28] < rolla> ggrrr
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[19:33] < hopelessOwl> rehi
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[21:12] < netrunne1> hi from da camp
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[21:14] < rxr> re
[21:15] < rolla> re
[21:17] < Freak> re
[21:17] < dennis> re
[21:18] < tsa> re
[21:19] < rxr> wow - so many re's in a row!
[21:19] < Freak> so you *had* to destroy that now ... >;)
[21:19] < tsa> rxr: please apply some of the patches on the list...
[21:19] < Be-El> hi rxr
[21:20] < rxr> tsa: I always do when I'm back home ...
[21:20] < rxr> hi Be-El
[21:22] netrunner balancing a wlan antennae on his head for not loosing the link
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[21:25] < esden> re hi all
[21:26] esden has network too now!!
[21:26] < Be-El> hi esden
[21:26] < esden> *jumparound*
[21:26] < esden> hi Be-El
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[21:27] < Be-El> esden: don't stumple across that network cable over here ;-)
[21:27] < Be-El> s/here/ther/
[21:28] < tsa> hi ripclaw
[21:28] < ripclaw> hi tsa
[21:28] ripclaw working
[21:30] < tsa> btw...anyone knows what happened to huebi? haven't heard from him for quite a while..
[21:36] < ripclaw> huebi is searching for contracts, he has been without contract for about half a year while working on 1.6-stable...
[21:36] < tsa> ah, i see.
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[21:41] < ripclaw> tsa have any experience with spam-prevention
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[21:44] < tsa> nothing that goes beyond the scope of installing spamassassin.. ;)
[21:45] < ripclaw> anything that locally filters ?
[21:46] < tsa> no...just on server-side, where local delivery (procmail/cyrus/maildrop/..) takes place.
[21:47] < rolla> tsa do you use sendmail?
[21:48] < tsa> yes.
[21:48] < rolla> :)
[21:48] < rolla> I have just installed the new sendmail on my rock 2.0-rc1 box
[21:49] < rolla> and I am haivng trouble figuring out what the perms and ownership of the dirs should be :(
[21:49] < rolla> Cannot write ./dfh74KIX9S030735 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied
[21:50] < tsa> -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 599628 May 14 19:19 /usr/sbin/sendmail
[21:50] < tsa> drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 48 Aug 4 21:46 /var/spool/clientmqueue/
[21:50] < tsa> drwx------ 2 root root 48 Aug 4 21:46 /var/spool/mqueue/
[21:50] < jsaw> re
[21:50] < jsaw> tsa: I have an update for the nvidia driver, interested?
[21:50] < tsa> sure ;)
[21:51] < jsaw> usual procedure: I send it to the list, and you confirm it?
[21:51] < tsa> ok.
[21:51] < rolla> an not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission denied
[21:51] < rolla> s/an/can/
[21:51] < ripclaw> ls
[21:52] < tsa> ls: /home/ripclaw/: Permission denied
[21:53] < rxr> oh - we have 884 packages now - I estimate 900 for 2.0.0-final ...
[21:53] < tsa> rolla: permissions/ownership of /var/spool/clientmqueue are what on your system?
[21:53] < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -ld /var/spool/clientmqueue
[21:54] < rolla> drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp root 720 2003-08-04 15:18 /var/spool/clientmqueu
[21:54] < rxr> jsaw: the rockplug stuff looks good!
[21:54] < rxr> jsaw: what we meant with hwscan unification is:
[21:54] < jsaw> rxr: good to hear, phew.
[21:54] < tsa> rolla: chgrp smmsp /var/spool/clientmqueue
[21:54] < rxr> a /sbin/rockscan
[21:54] < rxr> wich will be called with -$system -$deviceid bla bla
[21:55] < rxr> and which then executes the proper
[21:55] < rxr> /sbin/rockscan.$system with the parameters left over
[21:55] < tsa> (your sendmail should be setgid "smmsp" and needs to see the queue directoy..
[21:55] < rolla> t: Cannot write ./dfh74KYx9S030795 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied
[21:55] < tsa> ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail ?
[21:55] < rxr> IISTC this should be "easily" arrangeable in the current rockplug
[21:56] < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail
[21:56] < rolla> -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 597157 2003-08-03 20:33 /usr/sbin/sendmail
[21:56] < rxr> and this way it is possible to use only the /sbin/rockscan* files for embedded, bootdisk cases - or (with a special option) to generate the initrd modules ...
[21:56] < tsa> ok, sendmail permissions are ok - just fix the clientmqueue stuff and you should be ok.
[21:57] < rolla> I did
[21:57] < owl> moin
[21:57] < dennis> moin owl
[21:57] < owl> hi dennis
[21:57] < rolla> maisenhe@woden:~$ ls -ld /var/spool/clientmqueue
[21:57] < rolla> drwxrwx--- 2 smmsp smmsp 784 2003-08-04 15:34 /var/spool/clientmqueue
[21:57] < netrunner> moin owl
[21:57] < tsa> rolla: restarted sendmail afterwards?
[21:57] < rolla> doh
[21:57] < owl> hi netrunner
[21:57] < owl> daja77: here?
[21:58] < rolla> tsa nope still it does not work
[21:59] < tsa> uh?
[21:59] < tsa> sounds strange.
[22:00] < rolla> yeah
[22:00] < rolla> collect: Cannot write ./dfh74KeD3l030863 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=101): Permission denied
[22:00] < rolla> that is what I get in my /var/log/mail file
[22:00] < tsa> gid=101?
[22:00] < rolla> ?
[22:00] < tsa> what's that on your system?
[22:01] < tsa> (smmsp gid is 25 afaik)
[22:01] < rolla> nothing
[22:01] < rolla> sorry
[22:01] < rolla> it is smmsp
[22:01] < tsa> hm.
[22:01] < rolla> tsa it has to be 25?
[22:02] < tsa> hm...Docementation/Developers/REGISTER mentions 18 for both uid and gid smmsp
[22:02] < tsa> no, it hasn't, i was just wondering..
[22:02] < rolla> okay
[22:03] < rolla> are they both 18 on your system?
[22:03] < rolla> sendmail must be a set-group-ID (default group: smmsp, recommended
[22:03] < tsa> no, i have both of them with 25, but this is a custom-built sendmail
[22:03] < rolla> gid: 25)
[22:04] < rolla> same here
[22:04] < tsa> better have a look at op.ps in the sendmail docs, all the required permissions are mentioned there..
[22:04] < rolla> okay
[22:04] < rolla> I am looking at sendmail/SECURITY right now
[22:05] < tsa> ok..
[22:05] < rolla> thanks
[22:08] < rolla> tsa it seem the perms /var/spool/mqueue
[22:08] < rolla> are what are wrong
[22:08] < tsa> root:root, 700
[22:08] < rolla> if it is that it cannot write there
[22:10] < rolla> thanks I got it fixed
[22:11] < tsa> ;)
[22:17] < jsaw> rxr: btw, the compiler optimization thing: on of the differences between -O2 and -O3 is -finline-functions IIRC. So for processors with small L1 Cache (e.g. P4), -O3 is most of the time slower than -O2.
[22:20] < netrunner> hihi, esden holding a speech about rocklinx is not a dist
[22:20] < owl> *g* a speech on CCC-camp?
[22:21] < tsa> BTW.
[22:21] < tsa> can anyone test koffice and stuff with python 2.3?
[22:21] < jsaw> tsa: patch sent and received.
[22:22] < tsa> ok.
[22:22] < tsa> will ack as soon as it arrives here..
[22:24] < tsa> ack'd.
[22:24] < jsaw> novell buys ximian... huh?
[22:27] < netrunner> owl: no, to some guy from netherlands :)
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[22:38] < jsaw> brb
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[22:47] < jose__> ehlo everbody !
[22:47] < jose__> hm...., Mike1 is not here!, thats odd...
[22:49] < rolla> yes he is not here as much as before
[22:51] < SMP> hmmm
[22:51] < SMP> jsaw: how serious are the problems with the nvidia drivers?
[22:51] < jose__> a special reason ?, is he sick ?, fired ?, married ?
[22:52] < rolla> he quiet with CR net
[22:53] < rolla> quit I mean
[22:53] < rolla> so he does not have stable internet access
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[22:54] < jose__> hm..., so bad, and so good, maybe I can find a job in my company!, when he comes back you guys can tell him to call me!
[22:54] < rolla> I shall try to remember
[22:55] jose__ works for the company, doesnt own it !
[22:56] < jsaw> re
[22:56] < jose__> when did he quit ?, long time ago ?
[22:56] < rolla> 1-2 months maybe
[22:56] < jsaw> SMP: what do you mean with serious?
[22:57] < jsaw> SMP: the usual X lockups...
[22:57] < jose__> I can trust you guys!, can't I ?
[22:57] < rolla> jsaw: are you having trouble with nvidia drivers?
[22:57] < rolla> yes
[22:58] < jose__> ok, give him this link:
[22:58] < jose__> https://www.hostarica.com/default.php?page=webpages/Careers
[22:58] < daja77> mike will come back tomorrow afaik
[23:00] < rolla> yeah I emailed him
[23:01] < jsaw> rolla: well, don't know exactly if it's the nvidia driver, but I have X lockups (kbd+mouse gone). Killing X (logged in from another box) then causes severe problems (graphics+console gone, I also had fs corruption, and so on).
[23:01] < SMP> jsaw: well I did not know there were any 'usual' problems
[23:01] < rolla> suck
[23:01] < SMP> I guess I will find out
[23:01] < jsaw> SMP: read lkml
[23:02] < jsaw> (I don't want to say, the nvidia programmers suck, no they do not. But it looks like, they can't keep the pace of kernel changes due to a lack of programmers in numbers)
[23:03] < daja77> .oO mike told me to work never for hostarica ...
[23:04] < daja77> anyway /me off again
[23:04] < jsaw> cu daja77
[23:04] < jose__> hey daja77
[23:07] < jose__> ok, cool, so, cu, and i wish the best for Mike1
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[23:21] < BL|play> bbl
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[23:42] < rxr> re
[23:43] < rxr> jsaw: I also always had problem with this nvidia binary crap - when I tried a a year ago in dRock-1.4/6 times ...
[23:44] < rxr> SMP: any rock-net related news ?
[23:45] < tsa> binary crap?
[23:46] < rxr> binary only ...
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[23:47] < SMP> rxr: no news :-|
[23:48] < rxr> SMP: could you checking the current state, so I can do the C prog - and help with it ?
[23:48] < rxr> I thought we want to get this into -rc1 for a real feature freeze ...
[23:49] < SMP> it's second on my global todo
[23:51] < SMP> fuck! I forgot my password for the Camp reg.
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[23:55] < SMP> ripclaw: ! you alive?
[23:57] < Freak> aaaaah i finally understood the coke-lite-ad
[23:57] < Freak> :)
[23:58] < Freak> btw guys you should definitely call the next release 9.0
[23:59] < SMP> and why can't I use paste at the top level in KEditBookmarks - arrgh
-!- Irrsi Log closed Tue Aug 05 00:00:24 2003