--- Log opened Thu Aug 07 00:00:00 2003
00:00 < snyke> P O S E I D O N  D I E D
00:00 < daja77> huh?
00:01 < daja77> that guy from underwater?
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01:00 < rxr> rehi
01:00 < daja77> huhu rxr
01:00 < rxr> me back from a short trip to the camp ..
01:00 < daja77> oh you don't stay there?
01:01 < rxr> 100 EUR is quite much ...
01:02 < daja77> ah you only have to pay for the nights?
01:02 < rxr> but we nearly stayed there, but we had to drive back because Verna has a "Blasenentyuendung" and wants to consult a doctor today ...
01:02 < rxr> you have to pay 100EUR as soon a you setup a tent ..
01:03 < rxr> or 20 EUR per day  ....
01:03 < rxr> but since it starts today we had not to pay for yesterday . ..
01:04 < daja77> the price is ok i think, but i guess i couldn't afford it too
01:05 < daja77> driving to vienna will cost me a fortune ...
01:06 < daja77> oh shit svn conflicts in sylpheed.desc prevents the build
01:07 < daja77> how can this happen i never touched it
01:09 < tsa> rxr: you saw the (possible) updates i pasted?
01:14 < rxr> ere on irc, no
01:15 < tsa> xpdf 2.02pl1
01:15 < tsa> ntp 4.1.2
01:15 < tsa> sysvinit 2.85
01:15 < tsa> just those so far..
01:15 < rxr> could you drop me a mail, or send tested update patches ?
01:16 < tsa> i will, once they are tested...i had some strange build problems here and therefore restarted it from scratch
01:16 < tsa> (.err's without any error that seems to have occured)
01:17 < tsa> argh.
01:17 < tsa> it's happening again
01:17 < tsa> 1-gcc3.err
01:17 < daja77> yeah some evil things are goin on
01:18 < rxr> hm
01:18 < rxr> I need sleep
01:18 < rxr> cu latrer
01:18 < tsa> i've now tried both cross and non-cross.
01:18 < tsa> build/default-2.0.0-rc1-x86-pentium3-32-cross-generic-expert/root/usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:20:3: warning: su
01:18 < tsa> ggest hiding #error from traditional C with an indented #
01:19 < daja77> n8 rxr 
01:19 < tsa> seems to be glibc-related.
01:19 * daja77 off to bed too
01:19 < tsa> cu daja77
01:19 < tsa> there's lots of those, but that's only a warning, so it should not cause any build error..
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02:03 * netrunner is 31337 moving fre@ky wareZZ from esdens lap to his builder
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02:06 < d3mian> hi
02:06 < netrunner> hi d3mian 
02:14 < tsa> hm..
02:15 < tsa> a build with gcc33 only doesn't seem to be possible
02:16 < d3mian> can i upload files via ftp using mozilla ?
02:18 < tsa> don't know, never tried it.
02:21 < tsa> hell, this stuff is beginning to get on my nerves.
02:21 < tsa> thousands of outdated packages.
02:22 < tsa> lots of security-related patches missing.
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02:38 < d3mian> cu
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02:50 < Mike1> hello.
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03:33 < tsa> hi mistik1
03:33 < tsa> erhm
03:33 < tsa> whatever.
03:33 < tsa> n8.
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04:11 < rolla> re
04:23 < n00kie> Hi Rolla :)
04:28 < rolla> was gibt's?
04:33 < n00kie> well
04:33 < n00kie> Nothing new :)
04:34 < rolla> :)
04:34 < n00kie> I'm just on converting some osx icons to png files
04:34 < n00kie> www.xicons.com :)
04:34 < rolla> cool
04:50 < mnemoc> damn apache2 :(
04:51 < n00kie> why that?
04:51 < mnemoc> doesn't want to do the simple s.th i want it to do :(
04:52 < n00kie> oh :(
04:52 < n00kie> poor mnemoc
04:52 < mnemoc> yes :(
04:55 < rolla> what is wrong with apache2 for you
05:03 < n00kie> hm
05:06 < n00kie> Okay
05:07 < n00kie> 05:50AM
05:07 < n00kie> 04:50 AM
05:07 < n00kie> Right time do to some sports
05:07 < n00kie> :)
05:07 < rolla> what kind?
05:10 < mnemoc> rolla: nothing is wrong with apache, i'm wrong... my head doesn't want to work :|
05:10 < rolla> :)
05:11 < mnemoc> can you help me with specific directions? i'm not 'able' to rtfm :(
05:11 * mnemoc really needs to sleep
05:11 < rolla> sure
05:11 < rolla> what do you need to due?
05:12 < mnemoc> i need to start and 'omail-webmail'
05:12 < mnemoc> written in perl
05:12 < mnemoc> and 'omail-admin' in php
05:12 < mnemoc> can i query you? i don't like to look as an idiot in public ;)
05:13 < rolla> sure
06:16 < n00kie> :)
06:16 < n00kie> I'm back from sports
06:16 < n00kie> Running and Jumping on that olympic thing, rolla
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06:47 < blindcoder> moin
06:47 < owl> hi blindcoder 
06:47 < blindcoder> hi owly
06:48 < blindcoder> owl: up so early?
06:48 < owl> blindcoder: yes :-( can't sleep. 
06:48 < blindcoder> tsts
06:48 < owl> hm?
06:49 < owl> at least /me slept about 4 - 5 hours.. but slept more than totally horrible :-(
06:50 < blindcoder> Hmm.... that sucks >_<
06:51 < owl> yeah...
06:51 < owl> but this spam-mail makes me more than smile *rofl*
06:51 < n00kie_> Hey blindy, owli ;-)
06:51 < owl> hi n00kie_ 
06:51 < n00kie_> How are you?
06:52 < owl> full of pain --> alive. thx. you?
06:52 < blindcoder> hi n00kie_ ^^
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06:54 < blindcoder> and my weight went down to 101.0 ^^
06:54 < owl> congrats
06:55 < blindcoder> thx ^^
06:55 < n00kie_> I'm on training my body too :)
06:55 < n00kie_> Cause I'm to "dick" :(
06:55 < n00kie_> Btw, congrats blindcoder :)
06:58 < blindcoder> n00kie_: how much woight do you want to loose?
06:58 < blindcoder> I'm now down 12 kilos...
06:59 < owl> *g* /me hands over a piece of depression and shit to blindcoder and n00kie_ 
07:00 * blindcoder says: "No, thanks."
07:00 < n00kie_> blindcoder: about 10kg
07:00 < n00kie_> I want 60kg
07:00 < n00kie_> 70 is too much :(
07:02 < blindcoder> heh, I'm currently trying to drop under 100 and then maybe get down to 85 
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07:03 < n00kie_> blindcoder: Cool :)
07:03 < n00kie_> How tall are you?
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07:05 < hopelessOwl> rehi
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07:05 < n00kie_> wb owl :)
07:05 < blindcoder> n00kie_: about 183 cm
07:06 < owl> thx
07:09 < n00kie_> blindcoder: Ah, much taller than me
07:09 < n00kie_> I'm about 1.70m
07:10 < owl> blindcoder: hoeh? you're 183 cm? can't work... /me is just about 180 cm... and /me is taller than you
07:12 < n00kie_> lol
07:12 < n00kie_> owl: 1.80 o_O
07:12 < owl> n00kie_: why?
07:13 < n00kie_> It's tall for a girl ^^
07:13 < blindcoder> owl: then you're not 180. last meassuring a few days ago said 183
07:13 < blindcoder> n00kie_: too tall for my taste
07:13 < owl> blindcoder: O_o 
07:14 < owl> are you grown over night or so? 
07:14 < blindcoder> owl: no idea.... maybe I lost some width and gained some height :D
07:15 < owl> *lol*
07:15 * n00kie_ building revision 1035 Bootdisk
07:16 < owl> rev1035... might i should update my src...
07:16 < blindcoder> non-optimized bootdisk doesn't work for me
07:17 < blindcoder> now trying pentium-mmx bootdisk
07:17 < n00kie_> I'm on trying athlon xp bootdisk
07:17 < owl> blindcoder: huh? didn't work? in what way?
07:18 < blindcoder> linuxrc hangs when olading modules
07:18 < n00kie_> hmm
07:18 < owl> *gnarf* oki... 
07:22 < owl> *grrrrr* i'm hating isdn
07:23 < blindcoder> hehe
07:24 < owl> don't laugh
07:25 < blindcoder> *laugh*
07:25 < owl> blindcoder: *kick*
07:26 < owl> .oO(and /me is known as "sadistisches biest" what is blindcoder then...?)
07:26 < blindcoder> fies und gemein :D
07:27 < owl> :pp aka man :p
07:28 < n00kie_> Everything that isn't n00kie is evil
07:28 < n00kie_> And must be destroyed
07:28 < owl> *lol*
07:28 < n00kie_> :)
07:29 < owl> nah... my bf not, please
07:29 < n00kie_> yes, not your bf
07:29 < n00kie_> But everything other :P
07:30 < owl> oki. (and /me not, too, please)
07:30 < blindcoder> such a non--constructive mood here early in the morning :)
07:31 < owl> non--constructive?
07:32 < blindcoder> okay, destructive
07:32 < owl> :p
07:32 < n00kie_> destructive?
07:32 < owl> oki. then for you... : my head is killing me. but... :ppp
07:33 < n00kie_> deconstructive :P
07:36 * blindcoder --> breakfast
07:38 < n00kie_> Enjoy :)
07:38 * n00kie_ now just eats once a day
07:49 < blindcoder> personally, I eat practically all day long
07:50 < rxr> re
07:52 < blindcoder> moin rxr
07:52 < rxr> blindcoder: I do not think this is an optimisation issue, more a too less ram for some operation
07:53 < rxr> or some driver hangs due to not liking the hardware ...
07:53 < blindcoder> rxr: hmm... any ideas how I can get 2.0.0-rc1 on the machine then? killing 1.5.14 in the process?
08:00 < rxr> I just reread the linuxrc code
08:01 < rxr> blindcoder: where is it hanging for you?
08:09 < rxr> what are the last text lines you get?
08:13 < blindcoder> I don't see _any_ lines
08:13 < rxr> what was the last line from the kernel?
08:13 < blindcoder> I inserted a few printf()'s for myself, including one before autoload_modules(); is called and one oafterwards
08:13 < blindcoder> the one befor gets printed, the one after it not
08:13 < blindcoder> Freeing unused kernel memory: 152k freed.
08:14 < rxr> then comment the auto_load function out and see how it goes ...
08:15 < blindcoder> I tried that, and then it hangs when choosing 2nd stage from local device as well as choosing load network modules
08:15 < rxr> btw you can not load the normal 2nd stage on it if you do not activate a big swap partition in the initrc
08:15 < rxr> or you need to load the small image
08:15 < blindcoder> hmm... okay, good to know.
08:16 < rxr> blindcoder: the box has only 16MB RAM, the normal 2nd stage is a bit bigger IIRC ...
08:16 < blindcoder> I already have the disk partitioned for a 64 MB Swap Partition so that should be possible
08:20 * blindcoder reading up on current flamewars on lkml
08:33 < rxr> some texts about the boot stuff is on my doto now ...
09:13 < daja77> moin
09:13 < cytrinox_> mmoin daja77
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09:14 < blindcoder> moin moin
09:14 < daja77> moin blindcoder, cytrinox 
09:15 < Aard> moin :)
09:15 < daja77> hey Aard 
09:17 < daja77> are the others all up again?
09:18 < Aard> daja77: there still not too many up here
09:18 < Aard> couldn't sleep, so got up at 7:45 to take a shower before everyone wanted..
09:18 < daja77> hehe
09:20 < daja77> well have fun
09:20 * daja77 off to university
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09:55 < rxr> fake: awake ???
09:59 < rxr> grmpf
10:00 < rxr> Aard: are you at the camp?
10:03 < rxr> hm
10:04 < blindcoder> vey responsive today :-)
10:05 < Aard> rxr: yes. met esden tuesday evenig\ng
10:08 < blindcoder> Aard: if you see him, give him a hug from me :-)
10:08 < Aard> blindcoder: hm. er.. 
10:09 < blindcoder> Aard: alternatively you may kick him :-)
10:09 < Aard> blindcoder: hm. and if he kicks me?
10:10 < rxr> Aard: do you have fake near you?
10:10 < rxr> fg
10:10 < rxr> oO
10:10 < Aard> rxr: haven't seen him
10:11 < rxr> ok , thanks ...
10:11 < rxr> cu all later
10:11 < blindcoder> cu rxr
10:11 < blindcoder> Aard: you're free to defend yourself :-)
10:13 < rxr> damn, this server should not have running IDE in PIO mode ...
10:13 < Aard> blindcoder: I don't have a webcam with me -- since I can;t sell pictures of the event == sorry
10:13 < rxr> damn fscking slow to just create and copy drock-2.0.0-camp ISOs ...
10:13 < rxr> I shoudl fix this very soon ...
10:17 < blindcoder> Aard: damn :)
11:00 * blindcoder --> lunch
11:33 < netrunner> moin
11:33 < Aard> hi netrunner 
11:33 < netrunner> rxr: shall I bring my mini with the cd recorder?
11:43 * blindcoder back
11:43 < blindcoder> hi netrunner 
11:53 < netrunner> hi blindcoder 
11:56 < fake> rxr: there?
11:59 * netrunner want's to suck pr0n
12:01 < fake> netrunner: ask SMP, he is the k1ng 0ph pr0n
12:02 < esden> morning
12:06 < netrunner> ah, and my brother also ordered heroes 4
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12:11 < Be-El> hi ppl
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12:27 < owl> *gnarf* rehi
12:28 < Be-El> hi owl
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12:41 < owl> hi capchaos 
12:42 < capchaos> Owl!
12:43 < Be-El> hi capchaos
12:43 < capchaos> Be-El!
12:53 < daja77> re
12:53 < Be-El> hi daja77
12:53 < daja77> hi Be-El 
12:55 < capchaos> 23 users in this chan.. oh oh
12:55 < daja77> cap you are doomed *ggg*
12:55 < Be-El> es waechst....
12:55 < capchaos> daja77, damnit you are one of THEM :p
12:56 < daja77> capchaos: TRAITOR
12:56 < Be-El> THEM ? daja77 says he's from bielefeld ?
12:56 < daja77> no i only visited it
12:57 < Be-El> daja77: there's no bielefeld....
12:57 < daja77> Lorini is from Bielefeld ...
12:57 < Be-El> and you probably are one of them !
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13:05 < Be-El> .oO ( less Raindance-HowTO.txt )
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13:10 < daja77> *grmpf*
13:11 < Be-El> eh...daja, you are an ork, too ?
13:11 < daja77> no that damn server had a lag up to 300
13:11 < daja77> and i am good at imitating ...
13:12 < Be-El> i see....
13:13 < Be-El> .oO ( claims to visited bielefeld, imitating ork.....)
13:13 * daja77 alround weirdo ...
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13:29 < Be-El> re owl
13:34 < owl> thx. and off again
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13:41 < Be-El> https://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/
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13:47 < BL|away> bbl
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13:51 < daja77> building subversion on an old suse sucks like hell
13:56 < jvc> daja77: you could download a rock-beta, compile it, chroot and hopla Build-Pkg subersion
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13:57 < daja77> i could sacrifice two black goats as well
13:57 < jvc> yes, but that would not help you anyhow
13:57 < daja77> think i found a quicker solution
13:58 < jvc> never mind my suggestion than
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14:01 < daja77> jvc: thx anyway
14:11 * blindcoder back
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14:38 < rolla> re
14:39 < blindcoder> hi rolla 
14:54 < daja77> hi rolla 
14:55 * rolla was having fun with an apache2 server in chile last night :)
14:55 < daja77> huh, tell me more
14:55 < rolla> just help mnemoc with is server
14:56 * daja77 having fun with apache2 too
14:56 < rolla> :)
14:56 * daja77 now compiling subversion support in
14:57 < rolla> :)
14:57 * rolla goes off to wake up his backup server
15:00 < daja77> don't use cold water for this ...
15:03 * daja77 started new rtrock build ...
15:04 < rxr> re
15:04 < rxr> hi peopel
15:04 < daja77> moin rxr
15:05 < daja77> rxr: at the camp?
15:06 < netrunner> daja77: yes, he's in a wrokshop nearby
15:06 < blindcoder> rxr: re
15:07 < daja77> ah netrunner my spy, thx
15:07 < daja77> oops
15:11 < rolla> ;)
15:15 * netrunner sits at a workshop and realized that he just became part of a weird game ...
15:16 < daja77> that was your secret message *gg*
15:16 * netrunner finds this game stupid and leaves ...
15:17 < daja77> netrunner is just a bad player
15:19 < esden> re hi ... once more ;)
15:19 * -> esden waiting for 2.4.21 kernel for alpha compile
15:19 < daja77> hi esden, could you kick netrunner for me?
15:19 < blindcoder> esden: hi there :)
15:19 < rolla> SCO has lost their mind
15:19 < blindcoder> esden: my GPS-Receiver arrived a few minutes ago
15:19 < esden> daja77: done
15:19 < daja77> i know
15:19 < daja77> thx
15:20 < esden> autsh ... he has hit me ...
15:20 * -> esden hitting daja77 for it ;)
15:20 < daja77> d#oh
15:20 < blindcoder> hmm
15:21 < netrunner> daja77: trying to get me violent?
15:21 < daja77> get you, you are!
15:22 < daja77> ..no i only wanted to get you kicked ...
15:23 < daja77> remote kick protocol
15:25 * netrunner remotestrangulates daja77
15:26 * blindcoder going home
15:26 < daja77> feature not implemented yet
15:26 < daja77> bye blindcoder 
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15:37 < JTBurn> re
15:44 < rolla> re
15:45 * daja77 damn tired
15:48 < netrunner> daja77: sleep.
15:48 < netrunner> daja77: coffee
15:49 * daja77 confused, what now?
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15:49 < daja77> brb
15:56 < netrunner> daja77: use coffee. if your machine is better working than mine.
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16:07 < daja77> my machine is working fine, but at home
16:15 < owl> rehi
16:15 < owl> wah. this room is great. i love my cellar-room :)))
16:20 * daja77 likes his air conditiond workplace
16:24 < daja77> a cellar owl, yuck
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16:36 * netrunner likes the chips here
16:37 < owl> *g* 
16:44 < daja77> netrunner: chips? not chicks
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16:54 < tsa> hi
16:55 < owl> hi tsa 
16:56 < daja77> huhu tsa
16:57 < tsa> is there something broken with the current tree?
16:58 < daja77> what do you mean?
16:58 < tsa> my build aborts with 1-gcc3.err
16:58 < tsa> i see lots of warnings, but no real error in there.
16:58 < daja77> hmm can't tell my build hasn't made such progress yet
16:59 < daja77> still in 1-linux24
16:59 < tsa> ah, i see.
16:59 < tsa> what are you building for?
16:59 < daja77> pentium3
16:59 < tsa> ok, me too.
17:00 < daja77> O_o
17:00 < tsa> the error happens with both cross- and native-builds
17:00 < daja77> + bootdisk non optimised
17:00 < owl> daja77: still when it is in 1-linux24?
17:00 < tsa> no bootdisk stuff here so far
17:01 < daja77> which host system you have?
17:01 < daja77> owl: almost an hour
17:01 < tsa> but i disabled a lot of packages, like linux26*, gcc2*, glibc22*
17:01 < daja77> hmm sounds sane to me
17:01 < owl> daja77: please tell me if it continues somewhen...
17:01 < tsa> only gcc3 and glibc23
17:02 < daja77> owl: np
17:02 < owl> thx
17:03 < tsa> daja77: host system is a pentium3. linux 2.4.20, glibc 2.2.5
17:05 < daja77> ah ok, just heard of problems if you are trying to do this on pentium2 or lower
17:06 < tsa> starting a new build now.
17:06 < tsa> default config.
17:06 < tsa> changes: pentium3 optimised, abort on package fail
17:07 < daja77> do you really think it is due this
17:07 < tsa> i have absolutely no idea.
17:07 < daja77> ic
17:07 < daja77> hmm maybe pentuim3 optimization is borken
17:08 < tsa> if you want to have a look..
17:08 < tsa> https://www.jaenicke.org/1-gcc3.err
17:08 < tsa> (~ 2mb)
17:12 < daja77> owl: how long does your kernel compile, and on what cpu?
17:16 < rolla> daja77: it takes me 3m to compile 2.4.21 on my 2500+ 
17:16 < daja77> lol tsa has rock-trunk under mp3
17:16 < daja77> poser!
17:16 < daja77> complete rock kernel package?
17:16 < netrunner> rolla: i doubt that
17:17 < daja77> if you throw out lots of crap this should be possible
17:17 < tsa> daja77: i had to move it there - all other partitions completely filled up..
17:17 < daja77> ;-)
17:17 < rolla> netrunner: really
17:17 < daja77> it is on my garbage part as well
17:17 < rolla> not rock package
17:18 < daja77> ic
17:18 < rolla> actual kernel
17:18 < tsa> yes, i'll reinstall,; yes, i'll put in more disks.
17:18 < netrunner> rolla: I bet you do not do a full compile.
17:18 < tsa> (that's what i need the build for.. 
17:18 * daja77 pets tsa 
17:18 < tsa> )
17:18 < netrunner> rolla: show me a time make mrproper dep modules bzImage 
17:19 < daja77> guess rolla uses a stripped config
17:19 < netrunner> just calling make in my kernel tree finishes within seconds..
17:19 < daja77> as I would do for manual compiles
17:20 < rolla> netrunner: okay
17:21 < daja77> tsa: erhm could it be that you are trying this on a non cleaned up build?
17:21 < tsa> daja77: i did a ./scripts/Cleanup -full ..
17:21 < daja77> hmm strange
17:22 < rolla> daja77: I use no modules
17:23 < daja77> hehehe you are playing foul tricks
17:23 < rolla> no I compile everything in
17:23 < daja77> ugh wtf that
17:24 < daja77> to have a 20mb kernel image?
17:24 < rolla> nope
17:25 < daja77> tell me you compile everything you need in, or really everything
17:25 < rolla> everything I need 
17:26 < rolla> sorry I was not clear
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17:27 < daja77> so my trust in you returns ;-)
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17:27 < rolla> I run test right now
17:27 < daja77> :)
17:28 < rolla> I love my athlon
17:28 * daja77 loves his too
17:28 < rolla> what kind do you have?
17:28 < daja77> 1800+ XP, 1GB RAM ...
17:28 < rolla> cool
17:29 < rolla> I have 2500+ with 512M of ram
17:29 < daja77> :)
17:29 < rolla> 333 FSB
17:29 < daja77> the board does 400 fsb afaik, but the ram does not afaik
17:29 < rolla> :(
17:30 < daja77> had to change the board, that's why it is newer than the rest of the machine
17:30 < daja77> but this board kicks ass
17:30 < daja77> my whole system is faster since the change
17:30 < rolla> what kind?
17:31 < daja77> epox 8K9A
17:31 < rolla> ach so 
17:31 < rolla> I have ASUS board 
17:31 < daja77> never had such a cool board, you can toggle lots of stuff on it
17:32 < rolla> :)
17:32 < rolla> what all does it have?
17:32 < daja77> you can choose from which hd or cdrom you want to boot and stuff
17:33 < rolla> yeah
17:33 < daja77> :)
17:36 < tsa> .oO( does that require any special magic except from changing a simple scsi id? )
17:37 < daja77> ide discs
17:37 < daja77> and yes most boards are too stupid for that
17:37 < tsa> strange.
17:37 < tsa> ide sucks.
17:38 < daja77> even to boot from cd burner is not possible if this is the second cd device
17:40 < rolla> real    10m47.110s
17:40 < rolla> user    10m6.210s
17:40 < rolla> sys     0m37.870s
17:40 < rolla> sorry 10m is what a time make dep bzImage modules takes
17:41 < daja77> still better than 1,5h
17:46 * daja77 thought about adding certificates to his apache, but i guess in 15min this is no good idea
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17:52 < Mike1> moin.
17:52 < daja77> Mike1!
17:53 < Mike1> daja77: !
17:53 < rolla> Mike1: 
17:53 < Mike1> rolla: 
17:53 < rolla> damn he lives
17:53 < daja77> yeah he does
17:53 < Mike1> ?
17:53 < Mike1> have i missed something?
17:53 < rolla> people have been looking for you
17:53 < daja77> not?
17:53 < rolla> jose?
17:53 < Mike1> rolla: which people?
17:53 * Mike1 does not currently have conection
17:53 < daja77> we all waited for you here
17:54 < rolla> his nick was jose__
17:54 < daja77> not, what about your dedicated line
17:54 < Mike1> daja77: hey i feel honored
17:54 < owl> daja77: neverending
17:54 < Mike1> hi owlita
17:54 < owl> pentium4, but no optimization
17:54 < rolla> says he lives in CR and might be able to get you a job
17:54 < owl> hi Mike1 :)
17:54 < Mike1> rolla: ah that guy is from cr, he could havce called me if it was urgent
17:54 < daja77> Mike1: hehe yeah jose wanted to hire you for hostarice 
17:54 < Mike1> rolla: yeah i heard his company is looking for a fulltime sysadmin
17:55 < daja77> hostarica
17:55 < Mike1> daja77: yes i read the position, but, i now work on my own
17:55 < Mike1> i just came by to say hello for a few minutes
17:55 < daja77> Mike1: you told me that you never wanted to work for them anyway?
17:55 < Mike1> any important/ intereting news?
17:55 < Mike1> daja77: yups.
17:56 < daja77> i told him that ...
17:56 < Mike1> daja77: and now i work full time for my own company so..
17:56 < Mike1> daja77: ah ok.
17:56 < owl> Mike1: your own company? O_o
17:56 < daja77> of course i haven't told him your reason ;-)
17:57 < daja77> weee linux24 finished
17:57 < Mike1> owl: yes, i had my own cosnbulting company since several time ago, i just used to work on it on my spare time, but now i have decided to workj full time on it
17:57 < Mike1> daja77: hehe good.
17:57 < owl> Mike1: kewl ;)
17:57 < daja77> owl: almost two hours, but i build two kernels at the same time so ...
17:57 < owl> daja77: after how many hours?
17:58 < Mike1> owl: yes indeed, its still quite small only 2 people on the office
17:58 < owl> Mike1: i c. you and who else?
17:58 < Mike1> hopefully netrunner will join us next year
17:58 < daja77> cool
17:58 < Mike1> owl: me, and 2 other guys you don{t really know
17:58 < owl> Mike1: netrunner O_O
17:59 * daja77 notes that he is lucky still bein here and not to miss Mikey's appearance
17:59 < Mike1> daja77: thank you.
17:59 < Mike1> owl: yeah.
18:00 * daja77 now building 2x linux26 
18:00 < Mike1> daja77: arch_
18:00 < Mike1> ?
18:01 < tsa> 2x?
18:01 < Mike1> Hola tsa
18:01 < daja77> pentium3 + unoptimized
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18:01 < tsa> hi Mike1
18:01 < tsa> ah
18:01 < tsa> 1-linux24
18:01 < daja77> tsa: yeah realtime target + bootdisk target in parallel ;-)
18:01 < Mike1> daja77: pretty nice
18:04 < daja77> Mike1: does this mean you'll never work for informatica again?
18:05 < Mike1> daja77: exactly
18:05 < daja77> :)
18:05 < Mike1> unless they need consulting
18:05 < Mike1> and hire my company to do it
18:05 < tsa> consluting.
18:06 < daja77> hehe, got all the hw you wanted from them?
18:06 < Mike1> daja77: i don{t really want anything for them
18:06 < daja77> hmm thought you said sth about some nice hw there ...
18:06 < Mike1> yes sure.. but i have changed my mind
18:07 < Mike1> i can get my hardware from some where else
18:07 < daja77> good
18:07 < daja77> bye bye odin
18:08 < Mike1> yups
18:09 < daja77> guess i can't tell tsa about gcc3 today
18:09 < tsa> works on your machine?
18:09 < tsa> or takes too long?
18:09 < daja77> the build is now at 1-linux26, and I'll leave soon, ...
18:09 < tsa> ah, ok.
18:09 < tsa> we'll see.
18:10 < daja77> yepp
18:10 < tsa> if it doesn't work, let's get on someones nerves ;)
18:10 < daja77> unfortunatly I'll see on monday ...
18:10 * daja77 looks suspiciously in the general direction of rxr ...
18:11 * daja77 'll be at a wedding this weekend ...
18:11 < Mike1> daja77: u will get married?
18:11 < daja77> nope
18:11 < tsa> hehe
18:12 * daja77 is in love with his athlon ...
18:13 < Mike1> tsa: el miente estoy seguro de que se casara en secreto con owl
18:13 < tsa> lol.
18:13 < daja77> :P
18:13 < owl> hoeh???
18:14 < Mike1> anyways my friend i must vanish again
18:14 < Mike1> see you in a few days
18:14 < Mike1> i hope
18:14 < daja77> cu Mike1 
18:14 < tsa> have fun, Mike1
18:14 < daja77> vanishing, sounds like fun
18:14 < Mike1> i will
18:15 < Mike1> byw fellows
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18:15 < daja77> cool domain
18:15 * daja77 made the lusers happy ,..
18:16 < owl> shot them?
18:17 < tsa> off for a while.
18:17 < tsa> grep food.
18:17 -!- tsa is now known as tsa|afk
18:17 < owl> tsa|afk: guten hunger
18:17 < tsa|afk> thx
18:17 < daja77> owl: no php on apache2 works now (but subversion does not)
18:18 < owl> daja77: ah so... but which lusers? at your company?
18:18 < daja77> yepp
18:18 < daja77> don't have any at home ...
18:18 < owl> *g* 
18:18 < owl> .oO(why are you strictly mentioning this?)
18:19 < daja77> just to sure :P
18:19 < owl> *g*
18:19 * daja77 now visiting his parents
18:19 < daja77> cu 
18:22 < owl> bye, have fun, daja77 
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18:47 < blindcoder> anyone here?
18:50 < rolla> yes
18:52 < blindcoder> rolla: you know a way to install a laptop when linuxrc hangs?
18:53 < rolla> nope
18:53 < rolla> rock hates my laptop
18:53 < rolla> I have gentoo installed on it
18:53 < blindcoder> hmm... bad
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18:55 < blindcoder> cause I now have a GPS-Receiver and can't reinstall my laptop to use it >_<
18:55 < owl> blindcoder: aehm... chrooting into the system...? compiling linuxrc-package-stuff there?
18:55 < blindcoder> hmm...
18:55 < blindcoder> *thinks*
18:55 < blindcoder> just a moment...
18:57 < owl> blindcoder: ?
18:58 < blindcoder> owl: booting knoppix and using it to install ROCK
18:59 < owl> blindcoder: urgs. have fun
18:59 < blindcoder> grmpf
19:00 < blindcoder> not enough RAM
19:00 < owl> which notebook?
19:02 < blindcoder> Scenic Mobile 310CS
19:02 < blindcoder> 16 MB RAM
19:02 < owl> .oO(a bit old)
19:02 < owl> how many mhz=?
19:03 < blindcoder> 133
19:03 < blindcoder> hmm... nice
19:03 < blindcoder> at least I know now where linuxrc hangs
19:03 < owl> nice?
19:03 < blindcoder> f = fdopen(fd[0], "r");
19:03 < blindcoder> there *point*
19:04 < owl> this fscking kernel drives me insane. *grml*
19:05 < owl> how long does a fscking kernel (linux24) on a pentium4 with "generic" (so, no) optimiziation need to build?
19:06 < Aard> owl: should take about 4-8 minutes
19:06 < owl> Aard: yes... maybe with 10 of those pentium4s... (and i mean a rock-kernel... --> all modules and crap enabled)
19:07 < Aard> owl: 4-8. than 8. My kernel builds on my atlon in 4 minutes, with more stuff enabled maybe 8 minutes
19:07 < owl> wuff...
19:09 < blindcoder> one hour
19:09 < blindcoder> rock-kernel, pentium4 1.8
19:10 < owl> 17:34:37 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
19:10 < owl> sure?
19:10 < owl> .oO(still building... or having a loop...???)
19:11 < blindcoder> tail the logfile
19:11 < owl> tailing?
19:12 < blindcoder> tail -f build/*/root/var/adm/logs/1-linux24.log
19:12 < owl> what for?
19:12 < blindcoder> (replaced by common sense)
19:12 < blindcoder> ehm..
19:12 < blindcoder> to answer your question?
19:13 < owl> it still builds. but i dunno if it was rebuildt and rebuildt and rebuilt until my cpu is burning or so
19:13 < blindcoder> that's why I say, tail the logfile
19:14 < owl> hrm
19:16 < blindcoder> even though most people here wight think that of me, I'm not really _that_ stupid
19:19 < owl> hoeh? O_o
19:21 < blindcoder> ah, nothing
19:21 < blindcoder> just some personal feelings
19:21 < owl> blindcoder: *kick*
19:24 < blindcoder> thanks
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19:40 < owl_> remoin
19:40 < owl_> stupid kernelpanic!
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19:48 < owl> someone willed to compile a rock-minimal-with-xfree-target-build?
19:48 < owl> might the error is reproducible there, too?
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19:59 < rolla> if you are nice owl I shal try
19:59 < rolla> svn is down
20:00 < rolla> svn: RA layer request failed
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20:09 < owl> rolla: oki... mail to which adress?
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20:12 * blindcoder compiling pkgconfig atk12 glib22 gtk+12 and gpsdrive on a 133 MHz machine >_<
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20:17 < Be-El> re
20:18 < owl> wb 
20:18 < Be-El> owl:
20:18 < Be-El> Error logs from server-2.0.0-rc1-x86-athlon-tbird-32-minimal_XFree-expert:
20:18 < Be-El> 232 builds total, 232 completed fine, 0 with errors.
20:19 < owl> *ARGH* something i'm doing wrong...
20:20 < owl> which rev of svn?
20:20 < Be-El> 1032
20:21 < owl> hrmpf. doesnt work fo me since 1012
20:21 < owl> +r
20:23 < Be-El> hmm..some diffs in keepalived, centericq, rocksndiamond, openh323, sylpheed, k3b, koffice, kdelibs31 and kdemultimedia31....nothing that should influence with your target
20:23 < Be-El> let's create an iso-image and try to install it
20:24 < Be-El>                 Shared:     664 kB in     2 files
20:24 < Be-El>                 Disk 1:  223679 kB in   729 files  (boot)
20:24 < Be-El>                 Total:   224343 kB in   731 files
20:27 < owl> rolla: please use _not optimzied_ as optimization...
20:27 < blindcoder> do glibc 2.3 compiled libraries work on glibc 2.2 machines?
20:33 < blindcoder> *sigh*
20:33 < blindcoder> why am I even asking...
20:38 < Be-El> ok...ready for installing...
20:38 < Be-El> bbl
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21:14 < blindcoder> how to recreate a lost /lib/ld-linux.so.2 with only bash-biultins
21:14 < blindcoder> (Author: blindCoder)
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21:36 < Be-El> re
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22:39 < tsa|afk> n8
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23:00 < daja77> re
23:01 < Be-El> re daja
23:02 < daja77> huh, the camp openstoday, why are you all there since two days ...
23:03 < Be-El> getting network access for their tent ? ;-)
23:04 < daja77> hehe
23:12 < Be-El> daja77: are you familar with crossbuilds ?
23:13 < daja77> no
23:13 < daja77> wtf https://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/co/15389/1.html
23:14 < daja77> 901 builds total, 883 completed fine, 18 with errors.
23:14 < daja77> with rev 1025 argl
23:14 < daja77> 1035
23:27 < daja77> hehe mplayer has now trouble keeping in sync while I am running two builds at once
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23:39 < daja77> this could be a wonderful debugging night, but unfortunately i have to get up early
23:39 < daja77> so n8 you all
23:40 < Be-El> cu daja
23:43 < owl> .oO(himmelarsch und zwirn... )
23:43 < owl> re
23:43 < owl> bye daja77 
23:43 < Be-El> re owl
23:45 < owl> did i already mention, that this scripts seem to be broken like hell? 
23:45 < Be-El> which scripts ?
23:45 < owl> rock-build-scripts...
23:45 < owl> == 21:24:26 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
23:46 < Be-El> it's building the same package over amd over ?
23:46 < owl> yes
23:47 < Be-El> i had a similar error some month ago...but it was fixed that time
23:47 < Be-El> i'm not sure what has been the reason for it
23:47 < owl> :-(
23:48 < Be-El> maybe it's a clock skew and the Create-PkgList scripts does not recognize that the package has already been built
23:49 < owl> hmmm... but then it should appear in the .out files and or tail  -f .out... ?
23:51 < Be-El> what happens if you abort the build and restart it ?
23:51 < owl> also error
23:51 < owl> (already tested it)
23:52 < Be-El> *narf* i need some script to resolve build dependencies
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23:54 < owl> hi aszlig 
23:54 < aszlig> hullo
23:54 < Be-El> ok, Create-PkgQueue tells Build-Target which package has to be built next
23:54 < Be-El> hi aszlig
23:55 < Be-El> .oO ( huh ? 12 o'clock ? a shadow owl ? ;-) )
23:59 < owl> why a shadow-owl?
23:59 < Be-El> two aslings
23:59 < Be-El> two aszligs even
23:59 < owl> .oO(might i will leave the house and go for a walk at about 1 o clock)
23:59 < owl> nah....
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