-!- Irrsi Log opened Fri Aug 08 00:00:20 2003
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[00:21] < Aard> btw, camp pictures:
[00:21] < Aard> https://81.161.142.242/ccc/
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[00:44] < Be-El> und ab ins bett.....
[00:45] < owl> gn8 Be-El
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[02:29] < rolla> re
[02:36] < n00kie> wb rolla
[02:39] < rolla> thanks
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[02:42] < jsaw> ?
[02:42] < rolla> re jsaw
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[02:44] < jsaw> hi rolla
[02:44] < jsaw> freenode spam...
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[02:53] < rolla> ?
[02:53] < rolla> freenode
[02:54] < Nebukadneza> rolla: hum?
[02:54] < rolla> 19:48 < jsaw> freenode spam...
[03:01] < jsaw> I meant all these rehubbing stuff going on due to a lost? hub in EU...
[03:01] < rolla> ah
[03:01] < jsaw> which causes a lot of uninteresting messages on the screen...
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[04:27] < mnemoc> re
[04:27] < mnemoc> rolla: ping
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[05:39] < cytrinox__> guten morgen
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[06:24] < n00kie> Hu cytrinox
[06:49] < blindcoder> moin moin
[07:09] < blindcoder> hmm... that would be an idea...
[07:09] < blindcoder> booting the machine via nfs on root... *think*
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[07:26] < n00kie> blindcoder: ?
[07:26] < n00kie> Talking to ghosts?
[07:26] < n00kie> o_O
[07:28] < blindcoder> n00kie: well, since it's mostly the same if I talk when nobodys here or if there's somebody here...
[07:29] < blindcoder> the number of answers is mostly the same
[07:29] < blindcoder> unfortunately, the idea I had doesn't work, because the kernel itself doesn't recognise my PCMCIA-NIC
[07:29] < blindcoder> So I have to find another solution
[07:30] < blindcoder> but before that, I'll have breakfast
[07:30] < n00kie> Enjoy it. :)
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[07:41] < blindcoder> thanks, Inow do so ^^
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[08:45] < owl> moin
[08:45] < blindcoder> moin moin
[08:45] < Aard> hi euleken
[08:45] < owl> == 02:56:24 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1].
[08:45] < owl> == 08/08/03 08:17:19 =[1]=> Finished building package linux24.
[08:45] < blindcoder> moin Aard
[08:45] < blindcoder> == 07:58:21 =[9]=> Building x11/xfree86 [4.3.99.8 2.0.0-rc1].
[08:45] < blindcoder> X shit itslef yesterday >_<
[08:45] < owl> ^^^^^^ wtf is _THAT_ a kernel needs about 5 hours to compile? !!!!!
[08:45] < owl> hi Aard
[08:45] < blindcoder> owl: what machine do you have?
[08:46] < owl> blindcoder: my pentium4, 1.8 ghz
[08:46] < owl> 512 mb ram and so...
[08:46] < blindcoder> strange...
[08:46] < blindcoder> hard disk in PIO or something?
[08:47] < owl> dunno?
[08:47] < owl> how do i see it?
[08:47] < blindcoder> it's listed in /var/log/boot.msg
[08:47] < blindcoder> or boot.log
[08:47] < blindcoder> I always confuse hthose names
[08:48] < owl> ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
[08:49] < blindcoder> there you go
[08:49] < owl> hm?
[08:50] < blindcoder> hm... seems like it's only on the console, not in the log...
[09:33] < blindcoder> WTF?
[09:33] < owl> hm?
[09:34] < blindcoder> why does XFree want to open an IPv6 Connection????
[09:34] < blindcoder> socket(PF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = -1 EAFNOSUPPORT (Address family not supported by protocol)
[09:34] < blindcoder> (strace output)
[09:34] < owl> to nsa.amiland.net?
[09:35] < blindcoder> to a ssh-forwarded X-Server
[09:35] < owl> ah so
[09:35] < blindcoder> ssh -XCv scavenger.homeip.net
[09:35] < blindcoder> and then
[09:35] < blindcoder> licq -p qt-gui
[09:35] < blindcoder> strace that and you get that line above there
[09:37] < blindcoder> I DON'T EVEN HAVE IPV6 IN MY KERNEL CONFIG!
[09:37] < owl> *g* relax
[09:37] < blindcoder> NO I WON'T RELAX
[09:38] < owl> why not?
[09:38] < blindcoder> In the last few days ROCK has given me nothing but problems
[09:38] < owl> bad luck
[09:38] < Aard> blindcoder: mayber glibc-problem? had some strange gllibc-stuff yesterday while testing my ircbot
[09:38] < blindcoder> uninstallable laptops, X fucking up, /etc/modules.conf overwritten by some flist file...
[09:39] < blindcoder> Aard: it worked just a few days age (yesterday!)
[09:40] < owl> blindcoder: www.linuxfromscratch.org ... solution for your rock-problems :p
[09:41] < blindcoder> I don't want to reinstall my machine
[09:41] < blindcoder> I want my machine to WORK AGAIN
[09:42] < owl> .oO( never touch a rinning system )
[09:42] < blindcoder> I FUCKING DID NOT TOUCH IT!
[09:42] < owl> but?
[09:43] < owl> what then?
[09:43] < blindcoder> If I knew I'd be happy!
[09:43] < blindcoder> Yesterday I came home from work, wanted to run X and it didn't work anymore
[09:43] < owl> which error?
[09:43] < blindcoder> then I found that /etc/modules.conf was overwritten with some flist-file
[09:44] < blindcoder> Couldn't initialize nvidia kernel modules
[09:45] < owl> which entries where added to modules.conf, or not?
[09:48] < blindcoder> <md5sum> <path/to/filename>
[09:49] < blindcoder> and that a few dozen times
[09:49] < owl> shit
[09:49] < blindcoder> that WAS the /etc/modules.conf
[09:49] < blindcoder> there was nothing else in there
[09:49] < owl> yes... i meant before..
[09:51] < blindcoder> and now Xlibs want to connect to a non-existent ipv6 protocol
[09:51] < owl> hmhm
[09:51] < blindcoder> trying to compile ipv6 gives me a ton of unresolved symbols
[10:05] < blindcoder> hmm
[10:06] < blindcoder> seems like it's a bug i the pre-releases that ROCK uses *cry*
[10:09] < blindcoder> pre-releases and why they're a bad idea in a stable system
[10:09] < blindcoder> (Auther: blindCoder)
[10:11] < blindcoder> should I or should I not?
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[10:17] < blindcoder> I still wonder when they will throw me out of the Mailing-Lists and the IRC-Channel
[10:20] < owl> y?
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[10:21] < blindcoder> owl: let's say I... disagree... with the decisino makers on a few points
[10:21] < blindcoder> for example I don't like pre-releases in a "stable"-tree
[10:22] < owl> and? everybody is allowed to say his/her opinion
[10:23] < starlord> is there easy way to build all of the kde31 repository without giving eachtime package names?
[10:23] < starlord> packages from kde31 repository i mean
[10:26] < blindcoder> owl: well... rene is quite frank when telling his opinion... as am I... but I get heated up quickly... and that's not okay >_<
[10:27] < owl> hmm. k.
[10:27] < owl> hm. k. sdjflsajfl
[10:27] < owl> aaaargh. stupid patch cable
[10:31] owl np: nine inch nails - hurt
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[11:04] < owl> HOLY SHIT!!!!!
[11:13] < fake> hm?
[11:14] < owl> a fscked up pin of my fscked up notebook is gone...
[11:14] < owl> (no, i'm not angry....!!!)
[11:15] < fake> oh
[11:15] < owl> yes... or "argh" fits even more...
[11:17] fake making coffee
[11:18] < owl> fake: give me a cup, please, too. thx.
[11:32] < fake> mkay
[11:33] < owl> thx. *schluerf*
[11:42] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[11:43] < blindcoder> ah , finally a working X-Forward gain
[11:46] < owl> muhahahaha. what a ironie... the one gets his problems solved, the other gets problems. *ARGH*
[11:46] < blindcoder> owl: what's the problem?
[11:47] < owl> blindcoder: a fscking pin of my even more fscked notebook seems to be gone... (at least i don't see it anymore... just seeing a place where it should be...)
[11:48] < owl> at least i solved my "build is so fscking slow-problems" haha
[11:49] < blindcoder> hmm I had that with my /home disk
[11:50] < owl> why?
[11:54] owl starting terror-pinging blindcoder
[11:56] < owl> *rotfl* i'm collecting asus-hardware... the guys sent me a new mouse, new handbooks and so...
[12:01] < blindcoder> owl: pressed the cable too hard...
[12:01] < blindcoder> and shoved the pin INTO the had disk
[12:01] < owl> ah so... this... with broken pins...
[12:01] < blindcoder> I took an old HD, ripped out a pin, shoved it into the cable and "connected" the pin again this way :)
[12:02] < blindcoder> since then the HD has a label "handle with care"
[12:02] < owl> i c.
[12:04] < owl> someone interested in a nero5 (5.5.9.2 + asusdvd) to buy? ;ppp
[12:06] < blindcoder> not really
[12:07] < owl> what a pity
[12:21] < owl> <-- off
[12:21] < owl> bbl
[12:21] < blindcoder> baba
[12:22] < Aard> blindcoder: hey, somebody told me nero works with wine. he was happy to have a `usable' cd burning tool. don't know why getting nero to ork under wine is easier than using cdrecord..
[12:25] < blindcoder> I have written myself a handful of aliases to easily create and burn CDs and DVDs
[12:26] < blindcoder> iso_on_the_fly <files> # burn files onto CD in iso9660
[12:26] < blindcoder> iso_burn <imagefile> # burn iso-filo onto CD
[12:26] < blindcoder> and a few others I don't currently remember ^^
[12:26] < blindcoder> but if he's looking for a good(!) frontend, point him to arson
[12:27] < blindcoder> the easiest and best tool for writing and ripping CDs (audio CDs are ripped, and checked against freeDB for ID3-Tags)
[12:27] < blindcoder> unfortunatiely, it uses KDE
[12:30] < blindcoder> *yawns*
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[12:39] < fake> hm...
[12:40] < blindcoder> hmhm?
[12:41] < fake> hm.
[12:44] blindcoder giving daMani a kick and feeling better.
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[13:54] < tsa> hi all
[13:55] < blindcoder> moin moin
[13:56] < fake> hi tsa!
[14:02] < JTBurn> did anybody know a good site for installing and handling an IDS ?
[14:03] < tsa> www.snort.org?
[14:07] daja77 waves
[14:09] < JTBurn> big thx tsa :)
[14:12] blindcoder waves back
[14:12] daja77 now packing stuff
[14:12] < daja77> hi blindcoder
[14:12] < blindcoder> damn, I'm so fucking sleepy >_<
[14:12] daja77 off to Halle/Saale later this day
[14:13] < blindcoder> and freezing to death >_<
[14:13] < daja77> I'll be at a wedding tomorrow ...
[14:13] < blindcoder> daja77: oh, my condolences for getting married...
[14:13] < daja77> lol no not me :)
[14:13] < blindcoder> oh, okay then :-){
[14:14] < daja77> staying over night at my grandma's ...
[14:14] netrunne1 sneezes out loudly.
[14:14] < daja77> ieehh get a handkerchief you pig *gggg*
[14:15] < blindcoder> anyone injured?
[14:16] blindcoder finally got his GPS running yesterday :)
[14:16] < blindcoder> although ot on the laptop
[14:16] < daja77> what i basically wanted to tell, /me is without inet connection until sunday evening
[14:16] < daja77> so enjoy
[14:17] blindcoder getting out Party-Tools :D
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[14:17] < blindcoder> netrunner: how's your GPS doing?
[14:17] < daja77> scripts/Party-Tools *ggg*
[14:17] < blindcoder> hehe :)
[14:17] < netrunner> blindcoder: sweating in the cupboard of my camper
[14:18] < blindcoder> netrunner: I call that melting :D
[14:18] < daja77> ok cu, if anyone asks for me tell them to read the logs ;-)
[14:18] < blindcoder> daja77: okay.
[14:19] < blindcoder> netrunner: which software are you running it on+?
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[14:24] < knoti> rehi
[14:25] blindcoder now convincing the last sane part of my mind that the things I'm curently doing are not totally moronic...
[14:25] < netrunner> blindcoder: gpsdrive
[14:26] < netrunner> bibut remember to download the maps before you go on track :)
[14:26] < owl> *GNARF*
[14:26] < owl> rehi
[14:27] < blindcoder> netrunner: already done :)
[14:27] < blindcoder> owl: GUH-Narf
[14:27] < blindcoder> netrunner: I just thought that there are other good programs out there
[14:28] < owl> <-- sitting in fron of an windows XP notebook and getting eye-cancer
[14:35] < knoti> owl: Are you hypersensitive?
[14:35] < knoti> owl: I thought a normal notebook would have an lowemission lcd monitor *g*?
[14:35] < owl> knoti: but it's WINDOZE on it...
[14:35] < rolla> it does
[14:36] < owl> (stilll... )
[14:36] < rolla> == 08:18:27 =[9]=> Building x11/xfree86 [4.3.99.8 2.0.0-rc1].
[14:36] < owl> rolla: minimal_xfree target?
[14:39] < blindcoder> xfree is broken in ROCK
[14:40] < blindcoder> well, xfree pre-release is broken, so it's not really ROCK's fault
[14:43] < owl> where is a minimal-target-iso?
[14:45] < owl> to download...
[14:45] < blindcoder> iso.rocklinux.de
[14:46] < owl> nah... doesn't look so...
[14:46] < blindcoder> ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6/minimal/
[14:47] < blindcoder> and I thought, _I_ had the 'blind' in the name...
[14:48] < owl> *cough* thx
[14:48] < blindcoder> np
[14:49] < blindcoder> rolla: I hope you have ipv6 support in your kernel and don't plan to remove it...
[14:49] < owl> <-- having breakfast.
[14:50] < blindcoder> an guadn
[14:50] < owl> thx
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[15:01] < rolla> blindcoder: ?
[15:02] < blindcoder> rolla: !
[15:02] < blindcoder> rolla: the current pre-release as shipped with ROCK is broken and can't do any X-Forward without IPv6
[15:03] < rolla> was
[15:03] < blindcoder> the current pre-release of XFree86 as shipped with ROCK is broken and can't do any X-Forward without IPv6
[15:04] < rolla> :(
[15:04] < blindcoder> see also my Mail to the mailing-list "Pre-Releases and why they are a bad idea in a stable system"
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[15:09] < hopelessOwl> remoin...
[15:11] < blindcoder> wb
[15:12] < hopelessOwl> thx..
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[15:14] < rolla> blindcoder: I lost that battle with having 2.5 kernel in the stable release
[15:15] < blindcoder> rolla: well, with ARM we will have yet another kernel tree in ROCK
[15:15] < blindcoder> because linus tree never compiled on ARM (he said so himself)
[15:16] < rolla> :)
[15:16] < rolla> crazy
[15:16] < blindcoder> indeed...
[15:17] < rolla> hey find a package that in alpha state that is fine we'll add it ot the stable rock release
[15:17] < rolla> that seems to be the rock motto these days
[15:18] < hopelessOwl> yeah... or gcc-3.3
[15:20] < hopelessOwl> <-- off for a while
[15:22] < tsa> hehe
[15:23] < blindcoder> I already said my opinion on that and rene decided against it. He's the maintainer.
[15:24] < rolla> yup
[15:24] < netrunner> *sweat*
[15:25] < blindcoder> *freeze*
[15:27] < blindcoder> Somehow I'm looking forward to DevMeeting...
[15:28] netrunner hopes it is cooler there
[15:28] < blindcoder> I have a few... ideas that won't hit immediate acceptance
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[15:31] blindcoder looking forward to leaving work in 90 minutes... finally I can take off the "Pullover"
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[16:30] < rolla> owl: ?
[16:30] < hopelessOwl> rolla: ?
[16:32] < rolla> I had no errors on that build
[16:32] < hopelessOwl> oki. kewl. thx
[16:32] < rolla> np
[16:33] < rolla> I didn't build emacs ;)
[16:33] < blindcoder>
[16:33] blindcoder starts crying
[16:33] < hopelessOwl> on which machine did you compile? O_o
[16:33] < rolla> my athlon
[16:33] < hopelessOwl> hehe :p
[16:33] < rolla> blindcoder: emacs is useless
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[16:33] < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: why?
[16:33] < hopelessOwl> rolla: so? how many mhz?
[16:33] < blindcoder> rolla: I know, I cried because of a Call I just had ._<
[16:34] < rolla> what was the call
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[16:34] < rolla> hopelessOwl: 2500+ 1.8GHz
[16:34] < blindcoder> Customer: "Server xyz is unreachable." - I: "I just checked its page, it says the system is currently being repaired and will be back on Monday." - C: "Iknow what it says on the site, but I need that system now and I watn it to work." - I "..."
[16:35] < rolla> suck
[16:35] < hopelessOwl> bwahaha :-( *crying too*
[16:35] < rolla> ?
[16:35] < hopelessOwl> rolla: 2500 + 1.8ghz --> *crying*
[16:36] < rolla> oh
[16:36] < blindcoder> anotherclassic: "I can't access the folder xyz! Please cal me! Urgent!!!" (TroubleTicket, came in: 12:55)
[16:36] < blindcoder> I call customer, co-worker accepts call and tells me that the one opening the ticket has already gone home (13:00 !!)
[16:37] < rolla> delete call say guess it wasn't that important
[16:37] < blindcoder> yeah...
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[17:03] < tsa> cu
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[18:14] < tsa> re
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[18:42] < tsa> hm..
[18:42] < tsa> wtf is xfind.sh?
[18:46] < tsa> hm..
[18:46] < tsa> unlike the comment in it, it seems to be painfully slow.
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[19:04] < tsa> *GRR*
[19:05] < tsa> rxr?
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[19:12] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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[19:28] < starlord> should the nvidia package work?
[19:28] < blindcoder> yes
[19:29] < starlord> for me it doesnt,for somereason
[19:29] < blindcoder> you did do cd /usr/src/nvidia && ./install.sh
[19:30] < blindcoder> didn't you?
[19:30] < starlord> ah,i thought the build-pkg will do that,no i didnt
[19:30] < blindcoder> no, like winex, it's just an installer
[19:30] < starlord> ok,thanks
[19:31] < starlord> anyideas how to get java(SDK) working?
[19:33] < starlord> and does Update-Src fetch only stable or dev too?
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[19:34] < tsa> Update-Src is deprecated.
[19:34] < starlord> and ready made script that rebuild only the packages i have installed? hmm,then what should i use for update?
[19:40] < tsa> hm...i don't know if Update-System currently works.
[19:41] < tsa> at least the current subversion tree seems to be pretty broken.
[19:41] < starlord> that's the one that rebuild's packages i have installed,but which is that updates package files,scripts,etc...
[19:41] < starlord> err,i mean downloads new scripts,etc...
[19:50] < tsa> ah, i see.
[19:51] < tsa> get the complete sources once with "svn co svn://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/trunk"
[19:51] < tsa> after that, you can easily update with just "svn up"
[19:51] < tsa> (requires to have subversion installed, obviously)
[19:52] < starlord> yep,i have,thanks for the command
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[19:57] < netrunner> hacker jeopardy at tent b
[20:04] < blindcoder> netrunner: good luck :D
[20:12] < netrunner> blindcoder: just for a test, can you reach https://rocklinux.camp.ccc.de?
[20:12] < blindcoder> netrunner: yes
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[20:15] < netrunner> blindcoder: so start downloading, I wrote a nice ftplist where you can browse through all ftps :)
[20:15] < blindcoder> netrunner: I'm curretnly downloading minimal-iso from iso.rocklinux.de
[20:16] < blindcoder> netrunner: cause my own iso don't work on my laptop (see Mailinglist)
[20:18] < tsa> aah!
[20:18] < tsa> better now.
[20:19] < blindcoder> ?
[20:19] < blindcoder> found a lonely A/C?
[20:19] < tsa> no.
[20:19] < tsa> just found out how to get old revisions from svn
[20:19] < blindcoder> oh
[20:19] < tsa> because of current build scripts being broken.
[20:21] < hopelessOwl> rehi
[20:22] < hopelessOwl> broken build-scripts? O_o what now?
[20:22] < blindcoder> xfind.sh
[20:23] < blindcoder> 20MB to go
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[20:40] < tsa> hopelessOwl: some kind of "speed optmisation" for the build scripts that doesn't work
[20:42] < hopelessOwl> tsa: âh so... k.
[20:44] < hopelessOwl> ü#ä+
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[20:55] < rolla> yawn
[20:56] blindcoder rebuilding bootdisk-target for i386
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[21:13] < hopelessOwl> wb aszlig
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[22:44] < Be-El> hi ppl
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[22:53] < tcr> moin all!
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[23:07] < Be-El> moin tcr
[23:08] < tsa> cu all.
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