-!- Irrsi  Log opened Sat Aug 09 00:00:38 2003
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[00:45] < mnemoc> re
[00:45] < mnemoc> rolla: ping?
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[01:45] < tcr> re all
[01:48]   tcr watching some anime on Vox
[01:48] < hopelessOwl> which anime?
[01:49] < tcr> lodoss war or something
[01:49] < hopelessOwl> hm. what is it about?
[01:50] < tcr> Look at the video text
[01:51] < tcr> based on D&D stuff...
[01:51] < hopelessOwl> tcr: no tv in this room and too lazy to get up
[01:51] < hopelessOwl> d&d?
[01:52] < tcr> dungeons and dragons
[01:53] < hopelessOwl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. k. thx
[01:53] < tcr> with dwarfs, elfs and so on
[01:53] < hopelessOwl> *g*
[02:01]   hopelessOwl is sleeping. gn8
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[02:01] < Mike1> hallo.
[02:02] < hopelessOwl> hi Mike1 !!!! :)
[02:02] < Mike1> hopelessOwly !!!
[02:02] < Mike1> hopelessOwly guess who has finally conection again?
[02:02] < hopelessOwl> Mike1: might you? ;)
[02:03] < Mike1> YES!!!
[02:03] < Mike1> YES YES YES!!
[02:03]   Mike1 jumping around
[02:03] < hopelessOwl> *gnarf* i wanted to go to bed, and you are apearing, Mike1  ;p not nice
[02:03] < Mike1> ah well that kind of things make me intersting
[02:03] < Mike1> :P
[02:03] < hopelessOwl> hoeh?
[02:04] < Mike1> hopelessOwl: don't worry
[02:04] < hopelessOwl> Mike1: :ppp
[02:05] < Mike1> i feel so happy that i will have to hug you
[02:05]   Mike1 gives owl a bear hug
[02:05] < hopelessOwl> *rehug*
[02:05] < tcr> hi Mike1
[02:05] < Mike1> hi tcry, i am finally back :)
[02:05] < hopelessOwl> .oO(might tcr is neidisch/eifersuechtig now)
[02:06]   tcr too
[02:06] < tcr> Just got back some hours ago from malta
[02:06] < Mike1> tcr: how was it?
[02:07] < tcr> I'm atm watching tv, will tell you later (``tomorrow'')
[02:08] < Mike1> ok
[02:08] < hopelessOwl> .oO(watching TV is evil)
[02:09] < Mike1> TV is the devil
[02:09] < Mike1> :P
[02:10] < Mike1> ah well folks now that i have conection here i need to fix the mess of wires and stuff
[02:10] < Mike1> i will be back later
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[02:27] < tcr> hopelessOwl: still here?
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[02:37] < hopelessOwl> tcr: nah...
[02:37] < hopelessOwl> now really off
[02:37] < hopelessOwl> gn8
[02:43] < mnemoc> which is the name of the php's handler?
[02:45] < tcr> Bad point of time to ask that
[02:45] < mnemoc> :(
[02:47] < tcr> And not many peopl in here are able of php anyway, I think
[02:47] < tcr> it's almost 3am here
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[02:49] < mnemoc> you 'think' it's almost 3am?
[02:49] < mnemoc> that's not good
[02:51] < mnemoc> brb
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[03:24] < Nebukadnezea> öh , i'm hungry !!
[03:25] < mnemoc> me too... bye ;)
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[09:06] < hopelessOwl> 7WI!
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[09:20] < n00kie_> hopelessOwl: o_O?
[09:21] < starlord> i'm having some locale problems,anyone care to help me?
[09:22] < n00kie_> We try to help :)
[09:24] < starlord> i have export LC_ALL='fi_FI@euro' and export LANG='en' shouldnt this enable it that i have finnish keyboard and english system language?
[09:24] < starlord> in /etc/profile.d/locale file
[09:24] < hopelessOwl> n00kie_: aehmm... my blanket (? decke) spoke
[09:25] < n00kie_> hopelessOwl: Ah.
[09:27] < n00kie_> starlord: Moment
[09:28] < n00kie_> Try export LANG='en_EN'
[09:32] < starlord> i modified locale file but it doesnt take effect until i reboot,shouldnt it work if i just relogin to console?
[09:34] < n00kie_> try "init1"
[09:35] < n00kie_> if it doesn't works, reboot the machine and see, if you have english system language
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[09:36] < hopelessOwl> *g* n00kie_ the luser-help... :p
[09:37] < hopelessOwl> why not pointing him to google.com?
[09:37] < n00kie_> I'm not that evil
[09:37] < blindcoder> moin
[09:37] < n00kie_> Hi Blindy :)
[09:37] < hopelessOwl> *g* /me != evil ;p
[09:38] < hopelessOwl> hi blindy
[09:38] < n00kie_> hopelessOwl: Well, everything other than n00kie is evil. (-;
[09:38] < blindcoder> is it just me or is rock mailing list silent at the moment?
[09:39] < hopelessOwl> n00kie_: haha. who is now evil, eh? ;p
[09:39] < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: dunno. still downloading minimal-target-iso *sigh*
[09:40] < blindcoder> hm
[09:40] < hopelessOwl> hm?
[09:41] < blindcoder> nothintg
[09:41] < n00kie_> blindcoder: I'm wondering too
[09:43] < blindcoder> maybe because everyone iscurrently at CCCamp
[09:43]   hopelessOwl hopes that minimal-2.0-beta6-x86-i386_cd1.iso is bootable?
[09:44] < blindcoder> okay, now make a decisinon...
[09:45] < blindcoder> compiling libtiff libungif gtk+22 and gpsdrive on the laptop
[09:45] < blindcoder> or try to reinstall it again...
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[09:46] < starlord> hmm,this is so wierd,i get mixed result,few english and finnish messages
[09:46]   hopelessOwl wonders how long a reboot of machine takes for starlord - might he is booting into windoze? *vbeg*
[09:46] < starlord> no,i rebooted 4 times
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> starlord: but this problem is afaik Connecting to iso.rocklinux.de on port 21. Attempt 1 of 3...
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.5 Server (Rock linux Mirror) [oggy.lunds.lu.se]
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> USER anonymous
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your password.
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> PASS *****
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply.
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> SYST
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 215 UNIX Type: L8
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> Server Type: UNIX (standard)
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> PWD
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 257 "/" is current directory.
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> TYPE A
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 200 Type set to A.
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> PASV
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,61).
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> LIST
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
[09:47] < blindcoder> owl?
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> Transferred 328 bytes in 0,06 seconds (5,25 KB/s)
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,48 seconds
[09:47] < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> PWD
[09:48] < blindcoder> ehm...
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock" is current directory.
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> PASV
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,62).
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> LIST
[09:48] < starlord> ah,yes,i downloaded those packages from windows machine,i didnt have currently anyother linux in this machine
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> Transferred 128 bytes in 0,03 seconds (4,17 KB/s)
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,51 seconds
[09:48] < starlord> err,isos i mean
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock/stable
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> PWD
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock/stable" is current directory.
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> PASV
[09:48] < blindcoder> starlord: not every pprogram has i18n support
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,63).
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> LIST
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> Transferred 327 bytes in 0,06 seconds (5,32 KB/s)
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,56 seconds
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
[09:48] < hopelessOwl> PWD
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6" is current directory.
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> PASV
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,64).
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> LIST
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> Transferred 255 bytes in 0,05 seconds (4,98 KB/s)
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,54 seconds
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> CWD /dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6/minimal
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 250 CWD command successful.
[09:49] < blindcoder> starlord: those that don't usually speak english
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> PWD
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 257 "/dRock/stable/2.0.0-beta6/minimal" is current directory.
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> PASV
[09:49] < starlord> yep,but i had similar problems when i updated RH8 to RH9 at work,and i somehow got it managed to work,i need english system other than keyboard mappings
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,65).
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> LIST
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 226 Transfer complete.
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> Transferred 187 bytes in 0,03 seconds (6,09 KB/s)
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> Queue completed in 0,52 seconds
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> TYPE I
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 200 Type set to I.
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> PASV
[09:49] < hopelessOwl> 227 Entering Passive Mode (194,47,210,41,136,66).
[09:50] < blindcoder> starlord: export LANG="en_US" ?
[09:50] < starlord> yep
[09:50] < starlord> didnt work
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> RETR minimal-2.0-beta6-x86-i386_cd1.iso
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for minimal-2.0-beta6-x86-i386_cd1.iso (266502144 bytes).
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
[09:50] < blindcoder> starlord: export LOCALE="C" ?
[09:50] < starlord> owl:what is this?
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> ABOR
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> Aborting queue processing...
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> 451 Transfer aborted.  Broken pipe
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> 226 Abort successful
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> Failed [Aborted by user]
[09:50] < blindcoder> starlord: seems like she is unable using a mouse :D
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> sorry... if this was postet into the channel...
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: *cough* sorry... notebook... mouse... windows...
[09:50] < hopelessOwl> starlord: what is  what?
[09:50] < starlord> that log you pasted to here
[09:51] < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: nah!!! it was not my bad influence... i'm just lying in the bed... - problems with touchpad....
[09:51] < hopelessOwl> starlord: sorry... sorry... sorry...
[09:51] < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: bed? with this temperatures? weirdo...
[09:51] < starlord> will try that LOCALE="C"
[09:52] < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: nah. cellar. and . :p not your business :ppppppppp
[09:52] < starlord> hmm,but somereason when i put it in /etc/profile.d/locale it doesnt work, i also have to put it in ~/.profile
[09:53] < blindcoder> okay, booting with i386 bootdisk-target doesn't work either >_<
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[09:55] < hopelessOwl> .oO(4 times again... *cough*)
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[09:58] < starlord> bah,LC_ALL will do the trick
[10:01] < hopelessOwl> asked the almighty google.com?
[10:02] < starlord> hmm,i put export LC_ALL to profile.d/locale but locale cmd still gets fi_FI@euro
[10:03] < hopelessOwl> .oO(thought you want fi_Fi ???)
[10:03] < starlord> no i want otherwise english system except my keyboard mapping to finnish
[10:04] < starlord> which now works
[10:04] < hopelessOwl> hmmm.
[10:05] < starlord> but if i add new user,it has to edit/create ~/.profile file and put export LC_ALL='en_EN' otherwise it doesnt work, i have it on profile.d/locale but it has no effect
[10:07] < starlord> and why does ./Build-Pkg libidl10 issuses cmd Build-Tools -9 -cfg default?
[10:09] < hopelessOwl> issueses ???
[10:10] < starlord> ah,executes
[10:10] < starlord> bad english
[10:12] < starlord> i have lots of not installed depencies by other progs,any easy way to check what needs to be installed and what not?
[10:15] < hopelessOwl> aehm... moment... you're building the not resolved dependcy-packages?
[10:17] < starlord> hmm,for example svn needs libaprutil but i dont know which package has it,so i need found out that what packages needs to be installed so that all of my already packages should work,meaning no depencies
[10:18] < starlord> err,already packages should be already installed packages
[10:20] < hopelessOwl> aehm... google.... and freshmeat...
[10:20] < blindcoder> aprutil is in apache2
[10:21] < starlord> yep i know,but isnt there a script that read'
[10:21] < starlord> ups,moment
[10:21] < starlord> yep i know,but isnt there a script that reads package cache files and parses out [DEP] lines and see if they are installed or not,and if not,installs them?
[10:21] < blindcoder> Emerge-Package
[10:22] < starlord> crap,i have always used Build-Pkg,will switch to that
[10:22] < starlord> does it also generate those gem files or is it only on ISO building....?
[10:24] < blindcoder> no gem files IIRC
[10:24] < blindcoder> it installs into currently running system
[10:24] < starlord> yep,Emerge-Pkg only issues Download and Build-Pkg at the end of script so it basically sames as Build-Pkg except does depency checks
[10:25] < starlord> at least i got that impression from looking source
[10:25] < blindcoder> yes, that's what it does
[10:33]   hopelessOwl now installing rock-minimal on this notebook
[10:33] < hopelessOwl> bbl
[10:33] < blindcoder> have fun
[10:37] < n00kie_> Have Fun, owl. :)
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[10:42] < blindcoder> compiling on a 133 MHz machine sucks >_<
[10:42] < gt3> compiling sux
[10:42] < blindcoder> but at least the touchpad works again
[10:43] < blindcoder> gt3: then tell me where I can still get glibc22 and gcc2 compiled binaries for a few gnome2 packages
[10:45] < blindcoder> also, libtiff libjpeg libungif and gpsdrive
[10:49] < gt3> libido
[10:50] < blindcoder> ?
[11:25] < starlord> hmm,Emerge-Pkg does only check depencies of package i'm about to install,how do i check if i have not installed packages that my already installed packages needs?
[11:28] < blindcoder> building them again?
[11:30] < starlord> argggg,no other way?
[11:32] < blindcoder> don't think so
[11:35] < starlord> and how do i make iso of my currently running system,do i have to make a target for it,or anyother way?
[11:36] < blindcoder> cchamil wrote a Create-Target script which creates a target of currently installed system (by using /var/adm information)
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[11:37] < netrunner> moin
[11:37] < starlord> but its not in the svn
[11:37] < blindcoder> moin netrunner
[11:38] < blindcoder> starlord: it should be on the mail-archives of the last 2-3 weeks
[11:38] < blindcoder> netrunner: moin moin
[11:38] < starlord> ok,checking
[11:39] < blindcoder> netrunner: how's the camp going?
[11:50] < blindcoder> he's about as responsive as esden... clearly too much close contact...
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[12:14] < fake> moun
[12:15] < blindcoder> moin moin
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[12:19] < blindcoder> compiling gtk+22 on a 133 MHz machine takes ages >_<
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[12:23] < netrunner> blindcoder: fine :)
[12:23]   netrunner is just annoyed of a guy having it's incoming dir writeonly
[12:24] < blindcoder> netrunner: hrm... that's bad :-)
[12:24]   blindcoder currently ponders whether he should eat something or not
[12:44] < blindcoder> ah, finally make install is running (after 2 hours)
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[15:34] < blindcoder> WEE! Finally I have an install-shell on my laptop!
[15:34] < blindcoder> now all i need is a diet-libc mine...
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[16:00] < blindcoder> anyone here?
[16:00] < blindcoder> okay *MUAHAHAHA*
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[16:04] < blindcoder> finally my laptop is installing ^^
[16:05] < hopelessOwl> rehi
[16:05] < hopelessOwl> don't remind me about installing notebooks
[16:06] < hopelessOwl> wtf is a "intel centrino" what to choose in the kernel?
[16:06] < blindcoder> well, I use the drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-boot.iso to xboot the laptop
[16:06] < blindcoder> then copy a dietlibc-static built mine
[16:06] < blindcoder> and install the system from the "normal" laptop_cd1.ise
[16:07] < hopelessOwl> i c.
[16:07] < blindcoder> and it is finally installing now!
[16:07] < hopelessOwl> hehe. congrats
[16:07] < blindcoder> If it will work... we'll see...
[16:07] < hopelessOwl> at least it is already installed here... but not able to get a usable kernel...
[16:07] < blindcoder> best is, the drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-boot.iso is smaller than 9 MB :-)
[16:08] < hopelessOwl> O_o
[16:08] < blindcoder> yes, it's really only the BOOT-CD
[16:08] < blindcoder> then you have two other DATA-CDs :-)
[16:08] < blindcoder> so downloading and writing was done in a flash
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[16:09] < hopelessOwl> hi capchaos
[16:10] < capchaos> Hi, Owl!
[16:10] < blindcoder> hi cappy!
[16:10] < hopelessOwl> https://tuxmobil.org/centrino.html
[16:10] < capchaos> blindy!
[16:10] < hopelessOwl> *headshot*
[16:12] < blindcoder> hopelessOwl: sucks.
[16:14] < hopelessOwl> blindcoder: yeah
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[16:21] < snyke> blindcoder:
[16:21] < snyke> are you here?
[16:25] < blindcoder> snyke: yes
[16:27] < snyke> look:
[16:27] < snyke> https://de.php.net/
[16:28] < snyke> that's why https://www.php.net/ points currently to https://static.php.net/ :D
[16:28] < blindcoder> MUAHAHAHAHA
[16:28] < blindcoder> 403 Forbidden
[16:28] < blindcoder> on static :D
[16:28] < blindcoder> BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[16:29] < snyke> I just saw static blinking short while looking on php.net
[16:29] < blindcoder> MUAHAHHAA
[16:29] < blindcoder> good work, boy :D
[16:30] < snyke> or
[16:30] < snyke> no idea what's up with them
[16:30] < blindcoder> I suppose they updating the PHP-Version and it had a bug
[16:33]   blindcoder --> Anime
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[18:35] < Mike1> moin all
[18:36] < blindcoder> hi Mike1
[18:36] < Mike1> good day blindy
[18:37] < blindcoder> it's almost evening here ^^
[18:38] < Mike1> blindy ah well.. i just woke up
[18:39]   blindcoder currently fighting with kernel and pcmcia on laptop
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[18:40] < Mike1> have fun blindy
[18:40] < blindcoder> thanks >_<
[18:41] < blindcoder> even installing this machine was a PITA
[18:44] < tcr> hi Mike1, blindcoder
[18:44] < blindcoder> hi tcr
[18:45] < Mike1> hello tcr
[18:45] < tcr> blindcoder: do you know lodossos war (or something like that)?
[18:45] < blindcoder> and I'm running out of SWAP again
[18:45] < blindcoder> tcr: Record of Lodoss War
[18:45] < tcr> blindcoder: it's some anime that came this night on vox
[18:45] < blindcoder> i don't have a TV
[18:46] < tcr> It _came_ ;)
[18:46] < blindcoder> ok ok *hides(
[18:46] < tcr> Just watched part one and two of three being broadcasted (I was too tired after the second one to continue watching)
[18:47] < blindcoder> I haven't seen it yet
[18:47] < tcr> Oh well, I have no plan how they cutted that together
[18:47] < tcr> One time it's about this, then about that
[18:48] < tcr> But context got lost
[18:48] < blindcoder> hmm... usually vox is said to be quite reliable about how they stream it...
[18:48] < tcr> Maybe vox shuffled some episodes wrongly or whatever
[18:48] < tcr> Hmm. Ok I might have been just too tired to follow it
[18:49] < blindcoder> hehe
[19:00] < tcr> Mike1: About my vacations: They were more or less crappy. Mean reason was the heat (40°C in shade and that at morning), it was to terribly unbearable that you couldn't do anything until evening. But, where I was accommodated, was quite far away from the two main cities, so that the bus connection was the utter fuck (after 9pm direct buses didn't leave anymore, I would have to take taxis which were fucking expensive). Another reason was the host f
[19:00] < tcr> amily I was in, they shouted always at eachother even when I was directly close to them (my presence didn't disturb them in anyway). Not speak about the food I got... barf barf barf! Eh, and at last, the activities I paid for consisted actually totally of party, party, party (over the day at the beach and at night in one of the several discos) -- Well, I'm absolutely not really the kind of person who likes party.
[19:04] < Mike1> i know, poor tcr
[19:04] < Mike1> so next year u better come to cr :)
[19:05] < tcr> I hope my parents let me
[19:05] < Mike1> me too
[19:05] < tcr> They only let me go to malta this year because it was a language trip, you know..
[19:05] < Mike1> ah yeah
[19:06] < tcr> Ah I forgot something:
[19:06] < Mike1> wut?
[19:06] < tcr> I haven't mentioned the fireworks! Everyday fireworks
[19:06] < tcr> Well that sounds nice, but listen:
[19:06] < tcr> Not normal fireworks, no, something that makes noise as if a bomb fell down
[19:07] < tcr> everyday!
[19:07] < tcr> You're woken up by those at 8am, and go sleeping with them at 11pm
[19:07] < tcr> At this wednesday they shut 'em up from 7pm to 11:30pm
[19:08] < tcr> A wonder that I'm still able to hear anything
[19:10] < tcr> Astounded, wha?
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[19:18] < tcr> Hey cool Enterprise on Sat1
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