--- Log opened Mon Aug 11 00:00:13 2003
00:10 * A-Tui is away: Mata jipis en las CIES!!!!!
00:20 < netrunner> *chrrrr*
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00:40 < jsaw> re
00:40 < Nebu^sockets> ping fake
00:40 * A-Tui is back (gone 00:30:24)
00:41 < tsa> owl?
00:43 < owl> tsa: ?
00:43 < tsa> ah
00:44 < tsa> owl: heard you had problems with gcc build errors in stage 1, too?
00:44 < owl> tsa: yes...
00:44 < tsa> i'm currently having the same problem here
00:45 < tsa> tried both p3 and no optimisation at all, but the error still occurs
00:45 < tsa> were you able to solve this?
00:46 < owl> dunno for sure. my notebook is now in "reperatur" ... 
00:46 < tsa> ah, i see
00:46 < Nebu^sockets> owl: do you code cpp?
00:46 < tsa> judging from "chroot build/default-2.0.0-rc1-x86-generic-expert/root/ gcc -v", the gcc build itself seems to be ok, so i guess it's a problem with the scripts that occurs when copying the docs
00:47 < owl> hm. k.
00:47 < owl> Nebu^sockets: do i look so as i'm coding now something? no
00:48 < Nebu^sockets> owl: i dont know what you look like ..
00:48 < jsaw> tsa: fresh build?
00:49 < tsa> jsaw: yes.
00:49 < tsa> with svn 1030 because of current xfind.sh issues
00:49 < jsaw> tsa: solved now,
00:50 < tsa> ..oh?
00:50 < jsaw> tsa: target?
00:50 < jsaw> xfind is okay.
00:50 < tsa> jsaw: doesn't matter..tried both pentium3 and no optimisation at all
00:50 < jsaw> no, target distro, not processor...sorry
00:51 < tsa> ah, i see.
00:51 < tsa> default build, all packages enabled.
00:51 < jsaw> (I'm trying to remember why I had this problem...maybe some question's will help my brain to dig it out again....)
00:52 < tsa> hm...i see no changes to xfind.sh in the changelog
00:53 < jsaw> New Revision: 1043 \n ... \n fixed xfind ...
00:53 < tsa> ah, yes.
00:53 < tsa> just found it, too
00:54 < jsaw> and I can verify, it works.
00:54 < jsaw> (though I'm not sure about the speed improvement...)
00:55 < jsaw> tsa: all packages enabled... gcc33 and gcc3?
00:55 < tsa> ok, i'll retry
00:56 < tsa> jsaw: i tried several conbinations..
00:56 < tsa> jsaw: the error occured when i started a build for gcc33, glibc23, linux24 only
00:57 < tsa> but currently, i've enabled all and everything because i was unsure about my package selection
00:57 < tsa> but since the errors persists, it seems to be something else
01:02 < jsaw> tsa: how do I enable everything? "+ .*" or sth like that?
01:03 < tsa> jsaw: jsut don't modify the config.. ;)
01:04 < jsaw> jsaw: really? I selected generic target, but gcc33 is not selected... ?
01:05 < tsa> afaik, some packages are mutually exclusive, so you can have just one of them, but i've just used the default config for testing..
01:06 < tsa> i wonder how there should ever be a rock 2.0 release if new packages still get added, core scripts modified, etc..
01:07 < jsaw> k. let's if I can reproduce.
01:07 < tsa> much luck ;)
01:07 < tsa> default config, nothing modified.
01:07 < tsa> aborts for me with 1-gcc3.err
01:08 < tsa> i'd say it's a bug with createdocs stuff.
02:02 < Aard> ftp://aard.camp.ccc.de -- online till after I get up, if anything wants something
02:10 < tsa> hm..
02:10 < tsa> problem could be related to ROCKCFG_DEFAULT_F77
02:10 < tsa> <- testing
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02:23 < tsa> hm..
02:23 < tsa> no, it isn't.
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04:39 < jsaw> GCC Release Status (2003-08-03) [snip] The FSF's machines have been cracked again, [snip]
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06:59 < blindcoder> moin moin
08:18 < kasc> moin
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08:21 < blindcoder> moin kasc 
08:21 < kasc> at least partially alive again ;)
08:23 < blindcoder> Well, it's stil unusually quiet... but with the Camp just ended yesterday it was to be expected
08:24 < kasc> were you at that camp?
08:33 < blindcoder> no
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09:18 < owl> moin *grml*
09:18 < blindcoder> moin moin
10:03 < owl> Finished downloading 20662887 bytes in 52.995 seconds (389902.576 bytes/sec).
10:03 < owl> cksum-test (bzip2): download/base/gcc3/gcc-3.2.3.tar.bz2
10:03 < owl> ./scripts/Download: line 339: 11460 File size limit exceededbunzip2 <"$bzfile" >src/down.$$.dat
10:03 < owl> Cksum ERROR: download/base/gcc3/gcc-3.2.3.tar.bz2.cksum-err (2171944054)
10:03 < owl> wtf is _THAT_?
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10:12 < blindcoder> strange
10:13 < blindcoder> moin n00kie 
10:13 < kasc> owl: try to check your ulimits
10:14 < n00kie> Hi blindcoder 
10:14 < kasc> ulimit -f
10:19 < owl> 200000
10:27 < kasc> try ulimit -f unlimited
10:28 < kasc> or check your /etc/limits.conf
10:28 < kasc> uh, /etc/limits
10:28 < kasc> cf man bash ;)
10:30 < owl> gnarf. it's not my machine i'm building at!!!
10:31 < kasc> then you'd better bug that machines' admin for bigger quotas ;)
10:31 < owl> hrm
10:32 < kasc> maybe you can get around that limit by chsh to a shell that doesnt support those limits
10:33 < owl> hmm. 
10:33 < owl> currently i'm using zsh
10:34 < n00kie> Hmm.
10:34 < n00kie> zsh
10:34 < n00kie> I know that Shell.
10:35 < n00kie> But I still prefer Bash. :)
10:36 < owl> why?
10:36 < n00kie> Well Sandra...
10:36 < n00kie> I got "big" with the bash...
10:36 < n00kie> :)
10:38 < owl> i c :p
10:39 < kasc> n00kie: getting big with a really big shell, eh? *g*
10:40 < n00kie> mm
10:40 < n00kie> In english means "getting big" "getting fat"...
10:41 < n00kie> I mean getting "tall". (-;
10:41 < n00kie> If you understand me guys.
10:41 < n00kie> And girls. ;-P
10:41 < kasc> as in growing up? ;)
10:41 < n00kie> Full Ack
10:42 < kasc> :)
10:42 < n00kie> I just wanted to test you (-;
10:42 < kasc> thought so :-P
10:56 * blindcoder --> lunch
11:01 < n00kie> Enjoy blindy
11:18 < owl> *yawn*
11:29 < fake> damn...
11:29 * fake in bed, finally
11:32 < owl> *kick* 
11:32 < owl> enjoy the sleep...
11:39 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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11:47 < owl> wb blindcoder 
11:48 < blindcoder> thx
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13:42 < tcr> moin all
13:42 < tcr> rxr: ping
13:43 < blindcoder> moin moin
13:44 < tcr> Beta6 seems to be the most recent ISO, is that right?
13:44 < jsaw> tach
13:44 < tcr> I mean, that ISO is almost two months old
13:46 < jsaw> the biggest show-stopper is rock-plug and rock-net, currently
13:46 < tcr> Well, but beta7 was released a month ago, and there aren't any ISOs... that's improvable
13:47 < tcr> Anyway, I'll download beta6 right now
13:47 < jsaw> beta7 was an internal release...
13:48 < tcr> That makes the situation even worse
13:48 < jsaw> tcr: but u are right. that's not good.
13:48 < tcr> Two month without release... really improvable
13:49 < tcr> Urghs. All beta6 isos are for i586
13:49 < jsaw> tcr: what do u need?
13:49 < owl> tcr: minimal afaik not
13:49 < jsaw> hi owl.
13:50 < tcr> i386, because I have a pIII and an XP
13:50 < tcr> I need a basis system to try out cluster build
13:50 < jsaw> ? what's wrong with i586 for p3 and XP?
13:50 < jsaw> pentium+mmx should be fine for both!
13:50 < tcr> I had problems with that on an amd machine
13:51 < jsaw> what kinda problems?
13:51 < tcr> Receiving illegal instruction
13:51 < jsaw> strange...
13:52 < tcr> anyway, owl is right that minimal is i386 and, on the second thought, it seems better anyway
13:52 < tcr> Minimal should be enough for cluster builds, so I'll take that
13:53 < blindcoder> tcr: you do _not_ want to do a cluster build.
13:54 < tcr> Didn't you fix the problems?
13:55 < blindcoder> nome
13:55 < blindcoder> some
13:55 < jsaw> bbl
13:55 < blindcoder> but it's still kinda fucked up and needs a redesign
13:55 < blindcoder> with two nodes you _might_ be safe to use it.
13:56 < blindcoder> but with 4 nodes it already gets critical
13:56 < tcr> So what's fucked up?
13:56 < tcr> I guess, in 2.0 cluster facility will be depreciated then?
13:58 < blindcoder> some packages get built in parallel with their dependencies
13:58 < blindcoder> thus failing
13:58 < blindcoder> the xfree problem should be fixed by now
13:58 < tcr> And it's definitively a design issue?
13:58 < blindcoder> or rather "worked around"
13:58 < blindcoder> yes it is.
13:58 < tcr> Not some priority problem
13:59 < tcr> or whatever
13:59 < tcr> Ok
13:59 < blindcoder> the build-prorities are designed for single build-process
13:59 < blindcoder> in cluster-mode the dependencies are used.
14:00 < blindcoder> and because some cursor-packages didn't rely on X xfree falied, thus every X-package failed.
14:00 < tcr> So?
14:00 < blindcoder> then stage 5 was begun before stage 3 was finished
14:00 < blindcoder> and other odd behaviour
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14:01 < blindcoder> like when building several Targets in one rock-src tree, the builds got mixed up
14:01 < tcr> I don't see the line between "cursor packages didnt rely on X" and the result that xfree fails because of that
14:01 < blindcoder> cursor package:
14:01 < blindcoder> mkdir /usr/X11/...
14:01 < blindcoder> xfree:
14:01 < blindcoder> ln -sf /usr/X11R6 /usrX11
14:02 < blindcoder> ln: /usr/X11 exists
14:02 < blindcoder> Build-Pkg: meep, package broken
14:02 < tcr> Ah, I see.
14:03 < tcr> in what repo is that package?
14:03 < blindcoder> but that was worked around already
14:03 < blindcoder> rene-repository
14:03 < tcr> For me it seems rather to be a dependancy creation problem than a design issue of the way of cluster building
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14:04 < blindcoder> so you also think that a package that relies on kdelibs3 can start building when kdelibs3 is building at the same time?
14:05 < tcr> Why should I think that? It's obviously wrong.
14:05 < blindcoder> or that after a cluster-build 88 packages failed, I switch into single-machine mode, continue the build and suddenly only 17 packages fail anymore?L
14:06 < tcr> What are you going to show me?
14:06 < tcr> You don't at all misprove that it's still a dependancy problem in some way :) 
14:06 < blindcoder> well, that's the results I had with a cluster-build
14:07 < tcr> I wonder...
14:07 < tcr> Does that cursor programm really rely on X? And if true, why the heck doesn't it get built after Xfree86 is built
14:08 < tcr> So it seems to be either a problem during creation of dependancies, or a problem of how the cluster script interprets those dependancies. Do you agree?
14:09 < blindcoder> In this particular case I vote for problem in dep-creation
14:09 < blindcoder> sine it creates a directory in /usr/X11/ it _should_ rely on X...
14:09 < blindcoder> and that was already worked around by rene
14:10 < blindcoder> by using an [E] x11 tag
14:11 < blindcoder> I haven't had a chance to to something on a cluster since my last bug-reports to the mailing-list, so I don't exactly know how much things have improved.
14:11 < tcr> I guess all that was way after beta6?
14:11 < tcr> Forget that question
14:11 < tcr> I'll use most recent sources anyway
14:12 < blindcoder> hmm.. the xfind.sh problem should be solved by now, so I guess you're safe
14:12 < tcr> blindcoder: I can't find that questioned programm...
14:12 < blindcoder> which?
14:12 < blindcoder> xfind.sh?
14:12 < blindcoder> should be in scripts/
14:13 < tcr> s,program,package,
14:13 < blindcoder> also, you may want to deactivate the XFree-pre-patches.
14:14 < tcr> May?
14:14 < blindcoder> only if you don't plan on using IPv6
14:14 < blindcoder> if you use the pre-patches, but do NOT use IPv6, X-Forward will _not_ work.
14:15 < blindcoder> alse see my mail to the mailing list "Pre-Releases and why they are a bad idea in a stable system"
14:16 < tcr> mom
14:18 < tcr> Right, I read it when going through my inbox after having come back from holiday
14:18 < tcr> Wondered why you havent got any reply
14:19 < blindcoder> I didn't expect one, to be honest.
14:19 < tcr> Because it's an infringment of rxr's policy he himself set up
14:19 < blindcoder> which would that be?
14:20 < tcr> He blamed huebi for updates of critical packages, according to him "one reason why it can't ever get stable" (paraphrased)
14:20 < tcr> in 1.6 times
14:20 < blindcoder> hmm...
14:21 < tcr> And he told that he wouldn't allow such things. Kinda policy, imho.
14:21 < blindcoder> welll, I voiced my opinion on non-stable-marked packages during the samba-discussion.
14:21 < tcr> Yeah, I had a sorta similiar proposal, and Niko did, too. That's quite back in past though
14:22 < tcr> Let me look if I can find it
14:24 * blindcoder can remember the discussion when huebi added XFS to 1.6 ...
14:25 < blindcoder> and now rene added ARM into 2.0 short before he wanted to release -rc1
14:26 < blindcoder> on a recent Kernel-Traffic there was a cite from Linus saying "ARM never compiled in my tree and that won't change in 2.6" (that's not word-by-word but the sense is the same)
14:26 < blindcoder> so now we will have a fourth kernel tree in 2.0 ...
14:26 < owl> d'ouh!!! 
14:27 < owl> why 4 kernels??? thought "only" 3rd?
14:27 < blindcoder> but, oh well, he is the decision maker. hopefully he will soon start listening to other people than clifford again.
14:27 < tcr> (that's not word-by-word but the sense is the same) <-- that's paraphrased, hint, hint ;)))
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14:27 < jsaw> re
14:27 < blindcoder> owl: 2.4, 2.6 and 2.4-benh (for powerpc)
14:27 < blindcoder> re jsaw
14:27 < owl> omfg!
14:28 < blindcoder> and now 2.4-arm might be added to it...
14:28 < tcr> Calm down, people. Rxr is generally doing a good job, he just has to be helped out of the pitfall huebi stumbled in :)
14:28 < tcr> blindcoder: Do you have a local archive of the mailinglist; how far does it go back?
14:29 < blindcoder> tcr: I'm not saying he is doing a bad job. I wouldn't want to it, to be honest, and most of the time he is doing it really good.
14:29 < blindcoder> tcr: I currently can't access it because my machine at home is down, but I think it dates back to 03-2001 or something like that
14:30 < blindcoder> but as you said he is currently in danger of repeating huebis mistakes.
14:31 < blindcoder> tcr: I have a little bit over 7000 mails in my archive.
14:32 < tcr> Yeah, but as you cant access it I'll make use of the new ml online archive
14:32 < blindcoder> okay
14:32 < tcr> blindcoder: read this thread: https://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20030322.124052.2b836e16.html
14:33 < blindcoder> *click*
14:33 < tcr> no wait
14:34 < tcr> it ain't the start of the thread
14:34 < tcr> Wtf? I cant find the start %)
14:35 < owl> *rofl* 
14:35 < tcr> https://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/thread/20030321.150957.c4574692.html#20030321.150957.c4574692
14:35 < tcr> There it is :)
14:36 < blindcoder> I remember that discussion
14:38 < blindcoder> maybe we should bring this up on the devmeeting?
14:40 < blindcoder> btw. I also have a more or less heretic point to bring up there.
14:41 < tcr> My budget has been already vanished by the 2week vacation on malta
14:41 < tcr> so i dont think i can come
14:41 < blindcoder> i c... too bad...
14:45 < jsaw> blindcoder: heretic point?
14:46 < tcr> too heretic to be discussed publicly ;)
14:46 < blindcoder> jsaw: will you be at devmeeting? I'll bring it up there.
14:46 < blindcoder> on the risk of being thrown out ;-)
14:47 < jsaw> blindcoder: I'm afraid not. Would u mind sending me an email?
14:47 < blindcoder> jsaw: remember me about it in a few days, I'm currently accumulating points on why it should be done
14:49 < jsaw> blindcoder: k
14:50 < rolla> re
14:50 < jsaw> what I would like to see is this: every dev should have its svn branch. Then I can simply merge somebody elses changes. rxr in the end should only accept changes/additions etc, that are really cross checked...
14:51 < tcr> What I would like to see is to throw svn away and to use a real RCS.
14:52 < blindcoder> personally I don't care about one RCS or another... as long as it's easy enough to check out -current and by revision number.
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14:53 < blindcoder> Connection reset by beer.
14:53 < jsaw> blindcoder: isn't this the case right now?
14:53 < jsaw> ;-)
14:53 < blindcoder> jsyes it is. but it also was with CVS, so I don't really mind.
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14:54 < tcr> fuck
14:54 < jsaw> yep. but actually managing a repo is much easier with svn. However there might be indeed better systems. cvs is - however - not an option.
14:54 < blindcoder> if rene decides to use something that can't be used with less than 4 commands (one for initial checkout, updating and diffing against a revision), then I'll flame against it ;-)
14:55 < jsaw> hehe
14:55 < jsaw> but still, I want my own branch. It's hard to copy my changes between the different computers right now (and thus to cross check)
14:56 < blindcoder> yes, I know what you mean
14:56 < blindcoder> keeping ones own tree in sync with rene's is quite a bit of work.
14:56 < blindcoder> (please excuse my grammar today)
14:58 < tcr> Check out arch, it's the best free RCS and i'm sure it'll become the best RCS of the world one time. 
14:58 < tcr> Also the chances aren't bad that it'll be soon used by the kernel and gcc hackers
14:59 < tcr> Whereby soon means "in an uncertain amount of time"
14:59 < jsaw> tcr: I want to see that. Then will gonna have arch flames instead of bk... muahahahaha
15:00 < tcr> Arch is _free_, so why should there be flames?
15:00 < tcr> And it's gonna become gnu software
15:00 < jsaw> 2.4 kernel so far compiled w/o problems with gcc 3.3.1... no let's see what 2.6 says...
15:01 < jsaw> tcr: because ppl don't like changes. there's always somebody to complain...
15:01 < blindcoder> yes, and also somebody has to point out bad things of said changes
15:01 < blindcoder> nothing has only a bright side.
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15:02 < jsaw> tcr ??? 
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15:03 < tcr> wtf
15:03 < blindcoder> ploying around with your router?
15:03 < tcr> Here some to be some "störrfaktor" for my wlan
15:03 < jsaw> tcr: -dito- are u doing
15:03 < tcr> here seem
15:04 < tcr> Did anyone say something after 15:03?
15:04 < blindcoder> 15:02 < jsaw> tcr ??? 
15:04 < blindcoder> that was all ;-)
15:04 < tcr> jsaw: ???
15:05 < jsaw> tcr: I was asking myself what is happening over there...
15:05 < jsaw> now i know
15:05 < jsaw> screen can't handle that?
15:06 < tcr> I'm running windows atm
15:06 < tcr> because I'm restructuring my homework completely new
15:06 < tcr> homenet 
15:07 < jsaw> (also @ work, but irc'ing on my homenet right now)
15:14 < owl> damned heat...
15:21 * blindcoder going home. see you later!
15:24 < jsaw> cu blindcoder 
15:25 < owl> bye blindcoder 
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16:30 < jsaw> hi Mike1 
16:30 < Mike1> hi all.
16:30 < jsaw> Mike1: when will u be back rocking?
16:31 < Mike1> jsaw: now. :)
16:31 < Mike1> why?
16:31 < jsaw> hehe.
16:31 < jsaw> I have a bunch of gnome2 updates lying around. But I don't want to send them, before sb else tested them.
16:31 < Mike1> hehe
16:32 < Mike1> oh god.
16:32 < rolla> Mike1: 
16:32 < Mike1> rolla: 
16:32 < Mike1> jsaw: send them over
16:32 < owl> hi Mike1 !!! :)
16:32 < Mike1> i will test them
16:32 < Mike1> owly
16:32 < jsaw> Mike1: where can I find your current email address?
16:33 < Mike1> jsaw: mike@linuxlabs.com
16:34 < jsaw> If somebody extracts emails from this list, we'll take legal action.
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16:36 < jsaw> Mike1: gonna send them tonight when I'm back home.
16:36 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,260885,00.html << d'ouh
16:36 < Mike1> jsaw: perfect, that will give me time, to read mails, update svn tree, and read changelog
16:37 < jsaw> owl: I remember one of my professors in Ulm (great guy, around 65 at that time) sitting in front of his computer, drinking a beer...
16:38 < owl> hehe
16:38 < jsaw> (in his office at the university, of course)
16:39 < owl> uff... a cold ice && ice-tea or so would be nice, now... *sigh*
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16:41 < tcr> Uh. I don't drink alcoholics
16:41 < tcr> So... am I supposed to begin now or what? ;)
16:41 < owl> hehe. sure
16:43 < tcr> On the other hand, I could become like owl... What a risky drawback
16:44 < owl> tcr: *kick*
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16:44 < tcr> (You missed) so do you see what I mean? :P
16:45 < owl> seeing? nah
16:46 < CyBUX_> seen Mike1
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16:55 < tcr> @ CyBuX
16:56 < CyBuX> thanks tcr
16:57 * owl np: illuminate - leuchtfeuer
16:58 < SMP> hi btw.
16:59 < owl> hi SMP 
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17:28 < owl> wb fake 
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17:29 < tsa> hi all
17:30 < owl> hi tsa 
17:30 < tcr> moin tsa
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17:30 < tcr> omg?
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17:59 < LocalHero> Hi all
18:00 < LocalHero> rxr u there?
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18:35 < fake> morning
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20:39 < owl> rehi
20:40 < owl> fsck it's hot like hell...
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20:43 < LocalHero> Hi al
20:43 < LocalHero> +l :)
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20:44 < owl> hi LocalHero 
20:44 < owl> how are you?
20:45 < LocalHero> Im fine, i thought i have had the flue or something. But now im fine
20:46 < LocalHero> owl, and you?
20:46 < owl> LocalHero: wuah. flue is not nice. :-/ 
20:46 < LocalHero> Haha, i finaly replaced the broke 30gb ibm disk with a brand new 120gb
20:46 < owl> i'm ok, i guess...
20:46 < LocalHero> owl, you guess? Oki, sounds like you arnt :)
20:47 < LocalHero> wow, hp is releasing a new 17" laptop computer. I wounder what those proud apple fans are going to say. And they say that the price should be just 1600 euro
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20:48 < owl> LocalHero: :ppp yes. i guess....
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20:49 < owl> WAAAAAAAH!!!! please, please, please shoot the intel guys! PLEASE!!!
20:50 < LocalHero> owl, lol :)
20:50 * tcr shoots owl. Keep quiet.
20:50 < owl> the acpi-shit of benq joybook 5000 is the world's-largest crap i have ever seen. even more crappy than c# and ado.net
20:50 < LocalHero> isnt it time for a new beta release so that we could get some new isos?
20:50 * owl is in zombie mode and shots tcr now
20:51 < tcr> LocalHero: I brought exactly the same up this morning
20:51 < LocalHero> tcr, ahh, great, then we could join our forces and put some pressure on :)
20:52 < tcr> LocalHero: as jsaw says, biggest showstopper are rock-net and rock-plug. 
20:52 < tcr> rxr plans to release a rc1 after that
20:52 < tcr> Btw. How are the temperatures in sweden?
20:53 < LocalHero> hmm, nice, well then i might be able to implement the iso site before that :)
20:53 < LocalHero> tcr, uhh, its hot, it hasent rained in days and now everything is 25 degrease even at the nights. I long for some rain :)
20:53 < tcr> 25degrees, that's cold!
20:54 < tcr> Here it's >35 by day
20:55 < LocalHero> tcr, well at nights, but we are not used to that heat and i must say that when its 25 in sweden at nights its hot. When im abroad on vacation the temperature is higher but you dont FEEL the heat the same way
20:55 < LocalHero> tcr, well we have around 30 at day :)
20:55 < tcr> Here it's the same
20:55 < tcr> I can hardly sleep before, say, 2am
20:56 < LocalHero> it feels like you have nowhere to go. Its hot inside, its hot at the beach, its hot outside. Even my computer thinks it is a bit hot and the fans are going crazy
20:56 < LocalHero> tcr, i know the feeling :)
20:57 < LocalHero> Now i got the do some studdy :(.. Cya all
20:58 < tcr> Bye
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20:59 < owl> fsck... having linux again is so wonderful :)))
21:01 < tsa> depends on where you're coming from.. ;)#
21:03 < owl> winXP was installed on the "leihnotebook"...
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21:04 < owl> the only linux was the rock-1.6.0pre3 on k0y0r0, the openbsd on erebos, and the fli4l-linux on disaster
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21:46 < Mike1> halo
21:46 < Mike1> ping esden
21:47 < tcr> re Mike1
21:49 < Mike1> hello tcr 
21:50 < tcr> What do you want from esden
21:50 < Mike1> something personal.
21:51 < tcr> ;).. Ok
21:51 < Mike1> thanks. :)
21:51 < owl> hi Mike1 :)
21:52 < Mike1> hello owlita
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21:53 < owl> hi rtc 
21:54 < rtc> hello there :o)
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21:58 < Mike1> hello christ|an 
21:59 < christ|an> HI MIKE
22:03 < Mike1> be back in a while fellows
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23:02 < Aard> hi
23:02 < owl> hi Aard 
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23:26 < LocalHero> Hi all
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23:44 < LocalHero> Hmm, nobody here?
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