--- Log opened Wed Aug 13 00:00:49 2003
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00:02 < daja77> gn8 you all
00:03 < A-Tui> bye daja77
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00:25 < Aard> <sing>every sperm ist sacred, every sperm is great</sing>
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00:29 < tfing> hi there
00:31 < Nebukadneza> hey
00:32 < Nebukadneza> whats up?
00:32 < tfing> hmm, lazy summer :)
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03:57 < n00kie> mnemoc: ping
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05:21 < netrunner> n8
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07:13 < blindcoder> moin
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07:34 < n00kie> Moin Bliny
07:34 < n00kie> Moin Blindy
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08:02 < blindcoder> reading 1 GB of data out of /dev/random sure takes time
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09:00 < cytrinox> good morning
09:00 < blindcoder> moin moin
09:13 < daja77> huhu blindcoder 
09:14 < blindcoder> moin daja77 
09:14 < blindcoder> has anyone heard something from netrunner?
09:15 < daja77> just a helo yesterday evening
09:15 < daja77> hello
09:15 < daja77> when do you drive to vienna?
09:19 < blindcoder> I want to go there tomorrow with netrunner that's why I need him :)
09:22 < blindcoder> problem is that I still don't know where in vienna to go due to the lack of this kind of information from Big Poobah^W^WClifford
09:25 < daja77> hehe fake said he knows, hope he is right :)
09:27 < blindcoder> fake was there last year already IIRC
09:28 < blindcoder> aru you taking any hardware with you?
09:28 < daja77> my laptop, dunno if fake takes some more
09:29 < daja77> I have space for that ^^
09:29 < blindcoder> I'm thinking about my main machine... ehm... only machine, that is ^^
09:29 < blindcoder> problem is, I'd need three or better four power-outlets for it :D
09:29 < daja77> hehe
09:29 < daja77> omg
09:30 < daja77> poor clifford
09:31 < blindcoder> well, two PSUs and two Monitors (where only one monitor is active at any given time)
09:32 < daja77> :)
09:32 * daja77 wondering if this will be a hardware posing meeting ...
09:33 < blindcoder> hehe
09:34 < blindcoder> for hardware posing I'd need that super-cute case which I saw on "Computerstrich" in Munich...
09:35 < daja77> my main machine will be hopefully available via inet during the meeting
09:35 < daja77> computerstrich?
09:36 < blindcoder> Schillerstrasse
09:36 < daja77> hmm dunno
09:38 < blindcoder> Aluminium-Case, room for two PSUs, 3 3 1/2" slots for HDs, 8 5 1/4" slots
09:39 < daja77> :)
09:39 < blindcoder> 700 EUR >_<
09:39 < daja77> for a case, wow
09:41 < blindcoder> yes, just an empty case without PSUs or anything... 
09:41 < blindcoder> still, it was uber-cute :D
09:55 < daja77> you have fallen in love with this thing?
09:58 < blindcoder> love at first sight :D
09:58 < daja77> :)
09:58 < blindcoder> well on second thought rather... because pure aluminium looks much better with an image of a cute Anime-Character on it :D
09:58 < daja77> things you love are expensive
09:59 < daja77> hehe
09:59 < blindcoder> yes, I'm not cheap to satisfy :D
10:03 < daja77> *yawn* think I'll get up now, cu later
10:04 < blindcoder> okay, see you
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10:51 < owl> Error logs from rev1044-install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert:
10:51 < owl> 157 builds total, 20 completed fine, 0 with errors.
10:51 < owl> Error logs from rev1044-system-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree-expert:
10:51 < owl> 148 builds total, 148 completed fine, 0 with errors.
10:51 < owl> (installed (without rock-src + linux-src): about 400 - 500 mb))
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10:56 * blindcoder --> lunch
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11:13 < owl> hi LocalHero 
11:13 < LocalHero> Hi all :)
11:13 < LocalHero> hi owl, whazup?
11:14 < LocalHero> owl, did you upload the file?
11:15 < owl> LocalHero: nope. not yet... because there still is no iso... still building and so... thx for the offer, btw ;)
11:15 < owl> how are you?
11:16 < LocalHero> owl, no problem. Well im fine, a bit tiered because i cant sleep in this heat :(.. And you?
11:16 < owl> (finished build estimated for tomorrow morning)
11:17 < owl> tired, and sweating like hell... (fscking heat)
11:17 < owl> how hot is it in sweden?
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11:20 < LocalHero> owl, oki, that long time, what computer are you building on?
11:20 < LocalHero> owl, well at the days its not that hot but we have no wind and at the night it is 25 degreas
11:23 < owl> LocalHero: i'm building on an pentium-m, with 1.5 ghz for "no optimization"
11:23 < owl> d'ouh "not that hot" != 25°C 
11:33 < LocalHero> oki, got to go, cya
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11:33 < owl> bye..
11:37 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
11:37 < owl> wb
11:38 < blindcoder> thx ^^
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12:45 < owl> hi Nebukadneza 
12:45 < Nebukadneza> morning owl
12:46 < blindcoder> hi Nebukadneza 
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14:18 < jsaw> re
14:19 < owl> Error logs from rev1044-install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert:
14:19 < owl>  [3] base/parted                         [5] base/reiserfsprogs
14:19 < owl> 157 builds total, 141 completed fine, 2 with errors.
14:19 < owl> moin
14:19 < jsaw> tach owl
14:20 < jsaw> 919 builds total, 357 completed fine, 4 with errors.
14:20 < jsaw> with gcc-3.3.1
14:20 < owl> hmmmm
14:20 < owl> but at least the fscking bootdisk-target should build without fscking bugs!
14:21 < jsaw> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK
14:21 * daja77 covers his ears
14:21 * blindcoder now deaf
14:22 < jsaw> sorry, guys
14:22 < owl> *lol* better fix the bugs than complaining, guys
14:22 < jsaw> always-friendly-owl should better look into the mirror
14:22 < jsaw> then, say it again.
14:23 < owl> thought once, that rock-2.0-STABLE should be released since 19c3... but now we have august and still not even a almost-stable 2.0-RC1!!!
14:23 < owl> jsaw: :p nah
14:23 < daja77> who is complaining now ...
14:24 < owl> (to be honest it sucks. really sucks. it's almost as horrible as the 1.5-never-reached-1.6-stable-tree-crap... )
14:24 < owl> daja77: me. but i don't complain about screaming guys
14:26 < daja77> still complaining ...
14:27 < owl> who?
14:28 * daja77 now sleeping
14:29 < owl> O_o
14:29 < owl> gn8 daja77 
14:30 * jsaw needs coffee, lots of coffee
14:31 < owl> hehe. junkie
14:31 * jsaw puts his tabaco in his pocket, so noone will see...
14:32 < owl> tabaco? or weed? *vbeg*
14:32 * netrunner just realized that his build server can create his image gallery much faster than the fileserver :) no wonder with >10 times the speed :)
14:32 < jsaw> owl: .oO( -censored- )
14:33 < owl> hi Nebukadneza 
14:33 < owl> jsaw: haha. *kick*
14:33 < owl> kewl. build finished... now creating iso...
14:33 < owl> Error logs from rev1044-install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert:
14:33 < owl>  [3] base/parted                         [5] base/reiserfsprogs
14:33 < owl>  [5] base/dump
14:33 < owl> 157 builds total, 154 completed fine, 3 with errors.
14:34 < jsaw> owl: *jump-rotation-kick*
14:34 * jsaw missed owl
14:34 * jsaw now lying on the floor
14:35 < owl> hahaha :p
14:35 < owl> that is what you deserve :p evil man :p
14:35 < jsaw> brb (cophee, ya know)
14:40 < netrunner> pictures from da camp (unmodified, just rescaled a litte) https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/ccc-camp-03_small/img_2505-small-7-0.html
14:43 < netrunner> ugh, I shouldn't broadcast such urls with that small upstream 8)
14:43 < jsaw> hehe
14:49 < owl> blindcoder: still here?
14:49 < blindcoder> owl: yes
14:52 < blindcoder> owl: ...
14:53 < owl> blindcoder: do you know a good book for "abschlusspruefung fachinformatiker"?
14:54 < blindcoder> owl: book as in preparation for test or book as in take it with you to the test?
14:55 < owl> preparation
14:56 < blindcoder> then no
14:56 < blindcoder> and I doubt their existence
14:57 < owl> they exist... (if they're good is the other question)
14:57 < owl> (at least the most existent are makred as 4 or 5 points of 5... at amazon.de)
14:58 < blindcoder> sorry, can't recommend one over another
14:59 < owl> np
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15:10 < owl> hi CumiPilek 
15:10 < CumiPilek> hello
15:10 < CumiPilek> hehe better than sex huh :)
15:11 < CumiPilek> anyone has any success installing rock on laptop?
15:11 < blindcoder> yes here
15:11 < blindcoder> 133 MHz, 16 MB RAM
15:11 < blindcoder> 2GB HD
15:11 < CumiPilek> wow
15:12 < CumiPilek> blindcoder: how long did it take to compile ?
15:12 * fake running -beta7 on crusoe tm 8500 sony vaio, installed over network
15:12 < blindcoder> I didn't ocmpile it on the laptop :-)
15:13 < blindcoder> CumiPilek: also, I'm only running a minimal system with XFree, icewm and gpsdrive added because of the small harddisk
15:13 < blindcoder> CumiPilek: what are your problems?
15:14 < CumiPilek> haven't tried yet actually
15:14 < CumiPilek> but must we have internet access during the installation?
15:14 < blindcoder> CumiPilek: oh, okay. what laptop are you planning to install on?
15:15 < blindcoder> CumiPilek: no. that's not necessary if you already have the CDs
15:15 < CumiPilek> HP OmniBook 5700ctx, P 166 MMX, 128 MB RAM, 3 GB HD
15:16 < blindcoder> hmm... "should" not be a problem..
15:16 < CumiPilek> yeah I tried Gentoo, but it required net access during installation, but I don't have modem/network card on my laptop
15:16 < CumiPilek> blindcoder: so no net access at all required during Rock Linux installation?
15:16 < blindcoder> well, if you hae the CDs you don't need network at install time
15:17 < blindcoder> but you may run into other problems during installation
15:18 < blindcoder> CumiPilek: if you run into the trouble that the install CD boots (kernel) but doesn't continue afterwards, have a look at how I solved it: https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/rocklinux/mine.html
15:18 < blindcoder> (Note to self: kick clifford for an account on rocklinux.org during the next few days)
15:19 < owl> .oO(meinem betrieb geht's an die eingeweiden *vbeg*)
15:19 < blindcoder> owl: why?
15:20 * owl running rock-2.0.0-minimal_XFree-target on asus l3800c and rock-2.0.0-pre6 on benq, joybook 5000
15:20 < owl> blindcoder: because i will have a talk to ihk, soon... 
15:20 < owl> (already mailed them)
15:21 < owl> https://www.heise.de/ct/03/16/050/ << btw
15:22 < CumiPilek> blindcoder: how much efficiency does Rock gained with the compilation process, compared to say, Debian or Slackware?
15:23 < fake> CumiPilek: huh?
15:24 < CumiPilek> well supposedly, doing compilation would optimize a bit right?
15:24 < kasc> .o( how much banana does a banana juice have compared with apple juice or cherry juice? ;)
15:25 < CumiPilek> which decompresser program can handle .bz2 file format?
15:25 < blindcoder> owl: well, that's nothing new to me, having experienced it myself
15:25 < owl> blindcoder: and? what happend?
15:25 < blindcoder> owl: well, I passed the test...
15:25 < owl> CumiPilek: bunzip2
15:25 < owl> blindcoder: huh? O_o
15:26 < blindcoder> owl: my "Abschlussprojekt" was accepted without problems (Linux fileserver) and I was happy. But the problems with school and company... well... I don't like to talk/flame about that
15:26 < CumiPilek> how about the ones under windows ?
15:27 < kasc> CumiPilek: bunzip2/cygwin
15:27 < kasc> moin, btw
15:27 < fake> CumiPilek: winzip...
15:27 < fake> CumiPilek: as dicussed in about 10 dozen places, the optimization is... not as important as most people think.
15:28 < jsaw> CumiPilek: I had XFree running on my notebook (IBM 770ED, 266MHz, PII) long time ago with SuSE. X was horrible, stalling all the time. After recompiling with processor optimization: perfect! So, ...
15:28 * blindcoder going home now, see you later
15:28 < owl> have fun blindcoder . cya
15:29 < jsaw> cu blindcoder 
15:29 * fake also thinks mozilla runs much faster if optimized correctly
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15:51 < fake> hm.
15:52 < owl> hm?
15:53 < fake> damn work
15:54 < owl> hm? why?
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15:54 < fake> i'll have to finish quite some work in vienna
15:54 < owl> O_o
15:55 * fake is in homeoffice
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16:08 < SMP> r1044-x86-pentium3-32-generic-expert build finished
16:09 < SMP> 910 builds total, 872 completed fine, 33 with errors.
16:10 < fake> SMP: built on 2.6 kernel?
16:11 < SMP> yes
16:11 < SMP> and with python 2.3
16:11 < SMP> and with broken zlib
16:11 < fake> ;)
16:11 < fake> what was that yesterday with mozilla not building?
16:14 < SMP> doesn't build on 2.6 - trivial fix already done (but not tested)
16:15 < fake> what's the problem?
16:16 < SMP> no security/coreconf/Linux2.6.mk
16:16 < esden> hi all
16:19 < fake> ahum?
16:19 < fake> hi esden
16:19 < owl> hi esden 
16:21 < esden> humm ... I still wait till it gets bit colder ... 
16:22 * fake working on it
16:22 < owl> not just you... 
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16:22 < esden> I stil have 1000km to drive today/tomorrow
16:22 < daja77> huhu fake
16:22 < owl> thousand???
16:22 < esden> yes
16:23 < esden> from Stettin to Vienna
16:23 < owl> omfg. 
16:23 < daja77> esden is in poland ...
16:23 < owl> enjoy it :p
16:23 < esden> I will enjoy it ;-)
16:23 < esden> I am one hour away from the german border ;)
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16:24 < netrunner> hi esden!
16:24 < esden> hi netrunner 
16:24 < netrunner> esden: I am about to go to your flat, ... or are you about to come here?
16:24 * daja77 notes that esden has internet even there
16:24 < esden> netrunner: no I will drive directly to vienna
16:24 < owl> *argh* my ventilator gave up running!!!!
16:25 < netrunner> esden: ok. I'll report when I've been there.
16:25 < esden> netrunner: I beg for it
16:25 < esden> owl: burn baby burn ;)
16:25 < netrunner> esden: there has been a power surge in munich on tuesday morning, made my server reboot. maybe yours came back up?
16:25 < owl> esden: *ARGH* *kick*
16:25 < esden> netrunner: humm ...
16:25 < esden> netrunner: mom
16:28 < fake> daja77: hi there
16:28 < daja77> fake: /me just returned from bed ...
16:29 < fake> daja77: i'll go to bed soon ;)
16:29 < esden> netrunner: the box seems to be still offline
16:29 < daja77> fake: hehe ok
16:29 < esden> netrunner: please write me an sms when you have been there
16:29 < netrunner> esden: ok. I'll be there in an hour. ... shall I just switch it on, or is it as hard to boot as your alpha? ;)
16:29 < daja77> ...and tell the root passwd to the chan ...
16:29 < esden> hehe ...
16:29 < netrunner> esden: btw ... shall I bring that alpha to your flat or to vienna?
16:30 < daja77> fake: do you wanna take some hw with you?
16:30 < esden> netrunner: no ... it should come up ... but I think that I have not sshd in my init scripts so it will not ... ... /me starts thinking
16:30 < esden> you know what ...
16:30 < esden> I think that box is online
16:31 < fake> daja77: just laptop
16:31 < daja77> me too
16:31 < esden> if I remember correctly I can not ping from the machines at the university the machines in the stusta
16:31 < fake> daja77: and that little vaxen...
16:31 < esden> and if my box rebooted then ssh is no more on ...
16:31 < daja77> ladies and gentleman fasten your seatbelts, esden starts thinking ...
16:31 < fake> daja77: ;)
16:31 < fake> *brrrrrrrroooooooooooar*
16:32 < esden> netrunner: please check only if everything is still in place ... I mean if there is still a mess in my room and if my bigtower is still there
16:32 < esden> netrunner: and leave the stuff as it is ... you will not be able to get it back online anyway without my passwd help ;)
16:32 < netrunner> esden: so if everything is cleaned up something is wrong :)
16:32 < esden> netrunner: hehe ... yes ;)
16:32 < netrunner> esden: I know of init=/bin/sh
16:33 < owl> .oO(if not, call the local police, but don't tell esden that the stuff was stolen. otherwise he will have a heartache...)
16:33 * netrunner installing backdoor on esden's server
16:33 < esden> netrunner: you old hacker
16:33 * netrunner is a 31337 h@X0r
16:34 < netrunner> owl: I said so often to him stuff like I left the car open and so on, he probably wouldn't believe me anyway :)
16:34 < esden> netrunner: you cann mess around if you whish ... besides some porno stuff there is nothirg really importaint on my box ;)
16:34 * daja77 phears netrunner 
16:34 < esden> ok ... there are some dietlibc patches ...
16:34 < esden> but if you kill them fefe will take care of you 
16:34 < daja77> dietlibc and pron what a combination
16:34 < netrunner> esden: Oh, I have still 60G from the camp to put somewhere ... and I still do not know where :)
16:34 < esden> that is bad enough
16:35 < netrunner> hehe, dietlibc pr0n = story left out :)
16:35 < fake> why can't i export /dev over NFS?
16:35 < esden> daja77: that is better then leather and latex
16:36 < daja77> depends on the pron you have ...
16:36 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
16:37 * fake wonders who wrote '7331 HaX0r 0wn3d' into the dirt on his car
16:37 < blindcoder> fake: do you have Network Block Device in your kernel
16:37 < esden> daja77: aha ... you will have to enlighten me what pr0n you mean ;)
16:37 < blindcoder> esden: *moep*
16:37 < esden> hi blindcoder 
16:37 < fake> blindcoder: concordingly. vis-a-vis. ergi.
16:37 < fake> blindcoder: i have no idea.
16:37 < blindcoder> fake: well... then check :)
16:37 < esden> who is already at vienna?
16:38 < esden> and who will be there when?
16:38 < fake> blindcoder: is that default in rock kernels? i'm running one...
16:38 < netrunner> esden: /me and blindy will be there tomorrow for lunch.
16:38 < blindcoder> fake: default: no
16:38 < daja77> esden: I could never enlighten you ...
16:38 < fake> esden: rxr and gf are there, +1
16:38 < fake> esden: daja77 and me are going to arrive eraly tomorrow
16:39 < fake> blindcoder: damn it.
16:39 < fake> blindcoder: nah, then i'll try something else.
16:39 < esden> ok .. I will be there in 10hours + time to leave from here in stettin
16:39 < esden> that means about 19 ... or so
16:39 < esden> 19 o'clock I will leave here
16:40 < esden> I hope at least
16:40 < netrunner> esden: today?
16:40 < esden> netrunner: ack
16:40 * daja77 trying to leave 19 o'clock too
16:40 < netrunner> esden: https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/ccc-camp-03_small.html
16:40 < daja77> esden: wanna bet who is faster
16:40 < esden> daja77: how many hours do you need to get to vienna from your place?
16:41 < netrunner> daja77: when do you plan to drive through ingolstadt?
16:42 < daja77> esden: 10h at least i think
16:42 < daja77> netrunner: between 23:00 and 24:00
16:42 < esden> how much does a vigniet cost?
16:42 < fake> no idea...
16:42 < netrunner> esden: to much. i think 18 EUR for 10 days
16:43 < esden> bleahhhhhhh
16:43 < esden> but it is less then I thought it will cost ...
16:44 < daja77> do they have non eu pricing for esden *ggg*
16:44 < netrunner> esden: oh, it's only 7.60 as I read on asfinag.at
16:47 < esden> daja77: ....
16:47 < esden> netrunner: even better ;)
16:47 < daja77> esden: yes?
16:48 < daja77> netrunner: why do you ask?
16:49 < netrunner> daja77: wanted to compute who is faster :) but you start much earlyer than me, could only be faster if you were not going by car :)
16:49 < daja77> hehe :P
16:49 < esden> ahh finally all rlml mails read
16:50 < daja77> cheers esden ...
16:50 * daja77 hides
16:52 < netrunner> esden: what's the name of the road of the blue building?
16:52 < esden> Christoph-Probst Strasse ...
16:53 < esden> but I do not know the number ... sorry
16:53 * daja77 now packing stuff
16:53 < daja77> cu
16:53 < esden> but I think you can detect a blue color ;)
16:53 < esden> ok ... I go cleaning up my car for the trip
16:53 < esden> cu l8er guys ... probably tomorrow
16:53 < netrunner> esden: doesn't matter, it's big enough.
16:53 < esden> yes ;)
16:53 < netrunner> esden: ciao, good drive :)
16:54 < esden> thanks you too
16:57 < netrunner> esden: wait ...
16:57 < netrunner> esden: that alpha ... shall I bring it to vienna or to your flat?
16:57 * netrunner hopes he has not hung up yet ...
17:00 < netrunner> ... oh well, I'll bring it to vienna. isn't that big.
17:06 < esden> netrunner: bring the alpha from clifford to my flat ... 
17:06 < esden> the one without doors that are breaking away ;)
17:19 < rxr> re
17:19 < rxr> hi esden 
17:20 < esden> hi rxr 
17:20 < esden> argh ... I hate windows!!!!!!!!!
17:20 < esden> thank god I have linux on my laptop ... *sigh*
17:20 < owl> haeh?
17:20 < owl> what does god have to do with linux?
17:22 < jsaw> bbl
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17:30 < blindcoder> netrunner: okay, I have all maps and cliffords GPS-Coords on my machine now, will sync them to my laptop
17:33 < esden> owl ... a lot ... a lot
17:33 < esden> ok now I am realy off
17:33 < esden> cu guys
17:34 < owl> esden: hoeh???
17:34 < owl> bye esden 
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17:41 * fake is god, and uses linux, so yes, god has something to do with linux
17:41 * fake blesses rock
17:42 < owl> *rofl*
17:42 < owl> fake = nothing :p
17:42 < fake> well, to be exact, i am god's son (ever wondered why god uses sexual reproduction? who is the female part? isn't he/seh almighty?)
17:42 < fake> and i have proof
17:42 < fake> because...
17:42 < fake> i wear no shoes
17:43 < fake> and, as told in the bible, jesus didn't wear shoes, too, most of the time
17:43 * owl looks strang onto fake
17:43 < fake> therefore i must be jesus
17:43 < owl> nah :p
17:44 * blindcoder now packing for Vienna
17:44 < owl> but wtf are you reading the bible? O_o
17:45 < fake> owl: it's interesting
17:45 < owl> interesting? O_o
17:45 < fake> owl: i also read the bhagavadgita and started reading the koran
17:45 * owl phears fake 
17:45 < fake> owl: besides some buddistic and shintoistic lectures...
17:46 < fake> ph34r m4 m4d r34d0r1ng sk1llz
17:46 < owl> yeah...
17:46 < owl> are you believing in "someone or something" or just curious?
17:46 < fake> owl: just wondering how so many people can believe in things that are most certainly just a fake ;)
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17:47 < fake> besides, there is much more to those books.
17:47 < owl> hehe. k. puh.
17:47 < daja77> fake: btw do you have clifford's address?
17:47 < fake> daja77: i'll print a map and stuff later
17:48 < daja77> ok
17:48 < owl> fake: what is to those books then?
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17:48 < daja77> I mean I have found the village on the map, but i don't have an address ...
17:48 < fake> owl: they teach you to think in many different ways
17:49 < fake> daja77: i will remember where he lives, once we're there, don't worry
17:49 < fake> (you can actually smell clifford's house *g*)
17:49 < daja77> huh, is he selling chinese food or what?
17:51 < fake> no, they have a very interesting garden... nah, you'll see.
17:51 < tcr> daja77: clifford's address in on the website
17:51 < tcr> moin all, btw.
17:52 < owl> *rofl* very interesting garden... 
17:52 < daja77> hehe
17:53 < tcr> Finally managed to finish tinkering on my PCs... I'm so relieved... fuzzing around with hardware isn't really what I like most
17:53 < tcr> Now I just have to install that minimal iso on them, and then... cluster build I'm comming!
17:54 < fake> hm...
17:54 < fake> libdvdcss and libdvdread give up on reading my DVD here -_-
17:54 < daja77> hehe this is unfair jsaw is not working alone ...
17:55 < fake> ah, now it works.
17:55 < owl> *argh*
17:56 < owl> variable's name where i can specify if i want to build a package statically?
17:56 < blindcoder> CFLAGS="-static"
17:57 < owl> in $package.conf ?
17:57 < blindcoder> may work... may not... no idea
17:57 < owl> *gnarf* thx anyway
17:57 < owl> .oO(work faster prozessor, work faster!!! i don't want to miss my train *grml*)
17:58 < rolla> re
17:58 < daja77> oh should i better not mention that openbox doesn't compile here ...
17:58 < daja77> hi rolla 
17:58 < owl> daja77: why not compile?
17:59 < owl> blindcoder: doesn't work
17:59 < owl> anyways / me running to train bbl
17:59 < daja77> Translation.m:171: invalid character: message ignored
17:59 < daja77> Translation.m:172: invalid character: message ignored
17:59 < daja77> Translation.m:173: invalid character: message ignored
17:59 < daja77> Translation.m:190: invalid character: message ignored
17:59 < daja77> Translation.m:191: invalid character: message ignored
17:59 < daja77> stuff like that
17:59 < owl> daja77: normal
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17:59 < daja77> anyway have fun later
18:00 < fake> [*] Disable internationl Language support
18:00 < fake> ;)
18:00 < daja77> but fscked up 
18:00 < owl> but doesn't deliver you a .err...?
18:00 < daja77> ha ha
18:00 < daja77> it does
18:00 < owl> aha?
18:00 < owl> well. www.openbox.org
18:00 < owl> *gnarf* off
18:01 < daja77> i don't need it, just saying the rock package is borken
18:01 < daja77> anyway cu
18:04 < rxr> re
18:04 < fake> rxr: hi
18:04 < fake> rxr: how's the weather in vienna?
18:04 < rxr> hot as in berlin ...
18:04 < rxr> me off now ...
18:04 < rxr> cu
18:04 < fake> wait
18:05 < fake> -SIGPAUSE
18:05 < fake> hrmpf.
18:05 < fake> that would have saved me a phone call to vienna... nah.. 
18:10 < rolla> fake: I just saw the coolest new machine
18:11 < tcr> Hmm
18:11 < rolla> AMD 64bit workstation
18:11 < rolla> it comes from the company who's name is close to HAL
18:12 < tcr> I wonder how the "Installation overview" should be used
18:12 < tcr> I'm speaking about the boot programm of the installation cd
18:13 < tcr> The output has far more lines than the screen, and there doesn't seem to be a way of scrolling up
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18:25 < tcr> fake: Hum?
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19:33 < daja77> fake: /me now putting stuff into car, and starting
19:34 < daja77> cu
19:36 < fake> daja77 : me going to bed ;)
19:36 < fake> map printed
19:36 < fake> gn8!
19:42 < netrunner> ;) cleaned dad's pc from blaster 
19:46 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:00 < tcr>  hi blindcoder
20:01 < blindcoder> hi tcr
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20:30 * tcr mut laugh about the smileys in the colored sys-v init system
20:30 < tcr> must
20:54 < blindcoder> damn, I'm so fucking bored, I could die of boredness and would be too bored to even notice or care!
21:00 < netrunner> damn. I still have to clean up one room here. and all I do is sit here and watch movies.
21:00 < netrunner> :)
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21:00 < tfing> hi tcr 
21:02 < owl> remoin
21:03 < tcr> hi tfing :) whazzup
21:03 < tfing> tcr: just to inform you that developer is "développeur" in french ;)
21:03 < tfing> small typo on your 'poster'
21:04 < tcr> I think développer is the verb?
21:05 < blindcoder> re owl
21:05 < tfing> tcr: yep
21:05 < tfing> but you are talking about the noun
21:05 < tcr> So my poster is still right :)
21:05 < tcr> No I'm not :P
21:05 < tcr> developer < develop < développer
21:05 < tcr> you see?
21:05 < tfing> hmm, k
21:07 < tcr> Alright then ... I'll go to friend now
21:07 < tfing> bye
21:07 * blindcoder tries to sleep now... n8
21:08 < owl> gn8 blindy
21:19 * owl np: front 242 - headhunter 
21:19 * netrunner recooking
21:21 < owl> recooking?
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21:22 < owl> *har* someone thought that /me will hunt for his head :p
21:23 < netrunner> owl: has already been cooked by me, and then deep-frozen. now I am basically reheating it :)
21:26 < owl> ah so
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21:38 < owl> O_o hi awacs 
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22:12 < jsaw_> re
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22:45 < fake> *yawn*
22:45 < owl> .oO(lazy man)
23:10 < owl> <-- off for bed. gn8
23:17 < jsaw> gn8 owl
23:22 < tcr> hey jsaw
23:23 < jsaw> hi tcr.
23:25 < tcr> jsaw: Say, for the zlib problem.. is it really necessary to run the stuff twice?
23:26 < tcr> What about passing -fPIC to gcc from the beginning on (so we produce a shared lib first), then strip the *.o files and finally ar them up?
23:28 < jsaw> it is just a workaround right now for my tree. I think your proposal is much better. Post a message to the ML!!!!
23:29 < tcr> Did you contact the zlib people?
23:31 < jsaw> Nope. It's that way since ages. Second, that's a maintainer job and I don't know if I would interfere. (I did it already for a couple of my packages)
23:32 < tcr> what maintainer do you mean know? 
23:33 < jsaw> zlib.desc: [M] Cliff..
23:33 < tcr> ROCK linux repository maintainer or actual maintainer of zlib?
23:33 < tcr> Ah
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23:34 < jsaw> (PS: I would do it, but I'm also pretty loaded with work...)
23:34 < tcr> Ok, I think we need another term for that. I suggest rep-warder
23:35 < tcr> jsaw: I don't think it's the task of the rep-warder
23:36 < tcr> jsaw: According to me, there'd be a policy for patches against packages, that everyone who sends such a patch must ensure that the patch goes mainstream if appropriate
23:37 < tcr> Whatever
23:37 < jsaw> tcr: well, yes. I should have noted, that there are hidden [M] tags
23:37 < jsaw> (which are those people that supply patches...)
23:38 < jsaw> but here, it's a workaround, not a patch for zlib.
23:38 < jsaw> if I'd do a patch to the configure script (like I did for libgda08), I'd send it.
23:39 < tcr> I'll contact zlib maintainers right now
23:39 < jsaw> thx
23:49 < jsaw> tcr: eh, fPIC and then strip will not produce the same result. It might work, but will be most probably bigger.
23:50 < jsaw> (but this is something ppl with other arch then x86 have to check...)
23:50 < jsaw> brb
23:51 < tcr> jsaw: I know that.
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23:59 < tcr> Ok, mail sent off to the zlib maintainers
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