-!- Irrsi  Log opened Wed Aug 13 00:00:49 2003
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[00:02] < daja77> gn8 you all
[00:03] < A-Tui> bye daja77
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[00:25] < Aard> <sing>every sperm ist sacred, every sperm is great</sing>
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[00:29] < tfing> hi there
[00:31] < Nebukadneza> hey
[00:32] < Nebukadneza> whats up?
[00:32] < tfing> hmm, lazy summer :)
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[03:57] < n00kie> mnemoc: ping
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[05:21] < netrunner> n8
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[07:13] < blindcoder> moin
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[07:34] < n00kie> Moin Bliny
[07:34] < n00kie> Moin Blindy
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[08:02] < blindcoder> reading 1 GB of data out of /dev/random sure takes time
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[09:00] < cytrinox> good morning
[09:00] < blindcoder> moin moin
[09:13] < daja77> huhu blindcoder
[09:14] < blindcoder> moin daja77
[09:14] < blindcoder> has anyone heard something from netrunner?
[09:15] < daja77> just a helo yesterday evening
[09:15] < daja77> hello
[09:15] < daja77> when do you drive to vienna?
[09:19] < blindcoder> I want to go there tomorrow with netrunner that's why I need him :)
[09:22] < blindcoder> problem is that I still don't know where in vienna to go due to the lack of this kind of information from Big Poobah^W^WClifford
[09:25] < daja77> hehe fake said he knows, hope he is right :)
[09:27] < blindcoder> fake was there last year already IIRC
[09:28] < blindcoder> aru you taking any hardware with you?
[09:28] < daja77> my laptop, dunno if fake takes some more
[09:29] < daja77> I have space for that ^^
[09:29] < blindcoder> I'm thinking about my main machine... ehm... only machine, that is ^^
[09:29] < blindcoder> problem is, I'd need three or better four power-outlets for it :D
[09:29] < daja77> hehe
[09:29] < daja77> omg
[09:30] < daja77> poor clifford
[09:31] < blindcoder> well, two PSUs and two Monitors (where only one monitor is active at any given time)
[09:32] < daja77> :)
[09:32]   daja77 wondering if this will be a hardware posing meeting ...
[09:33] < blindcoder> hehe
[09:34] < blindcoder> for hardware posing I'd need that super-cute case which I saw on "Computerstrich" in Munich...
[09:35] < daja77> my main machine will be hopefully available via inet during the meeting
[09:35] < daja77> computerstrich?
[09:36] < blindcoder> Schillerstrasse
[09:36] < daja77> hmm dunno
[09:38] < blindcoder> Aluminium-Case, room for two PSUs, 3 3 1/2" slots for HDs, 8 5 1/4" slots
[09:39] < daja77> :)
[09:39] < blindcoder> 700 EUR >_<
[09:39] < daja77> for a case, wow
[09:41] < blindcoder> yes, just an empty case without PSUs or anything...
[09:41] < blindcoder> still, it was uber-cute :D
[09:55] < daja77> you have fallen in love with this thing?
[09:58] < blindcoder> love at first sight :D
[09:58] < daja77> :)
[09:58] < blindcoder> well on second thought rather... because pure aluminium looks much better with an image of a cute Anime-Character on it :D
[09:58] < daja77> things you love are expensive
[09:59] < daja77> hehe
[09:59] < blindcoder> yes, I'm not cheap to satisfy :D
[10:03] < daja77> *yawn* think I'll get up now, cu later
[10:04] < blindcoder> okay, see you
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[10:51] < owl> Error logs from rev1044-install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert:
[10:51] < owl> 157 builds total, 20 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[10:51] < owl> Error logs from rev1044-system-2.0.0-rc1-x86-minimal_XFree-expert:
[10:51] < owl> 148 builds total, 148 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[10:51] < owl> (installed (without rock-src + linux-src): about 400 - 500 mb))
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[10:56]   blindcoder --> lunch
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[11:13] < owl> hi LocalHero
[11:13] < LocalHero> Hi all :)
[11:13] < LocalHero> hi owl, whazup?
[11:14] < LocalHero> owl, did you upload the file?
[11:15] < owl> LocalHero: nope. not yet... because there still is no iso... still building and so... thx for the offer, btw ;)
[11:15] < owl> how are you?
[11:16] < LocalHero> owl, no problem. Well im fine, a bit tiered because i cant sleep in this heat :(.. And you?
[11:16] < owl> (finished build estimated for tomorrow morning)
[11:17] < owl> tired, and sweating like hell... (fscking heat)
[11:17] < owl> how hot is it in sweden?
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[11:20] < LocalHero> owl, oki, that long time, what computer are you building on?
[11:20] < LocalHero> owl, well at the days its not that hot but we have no wind and at the night it is 25 degreas
[11:23] < owl> LocalHero: i'm building on an pentium-m, with 1.5 ghz for "no optimization"
[11:23] < owl> d'ouh "not that hot" != 25°C
[11:33] < LocalHero> oki, got to go, cya
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[11:33] < owl> bye..
[11:37] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[11:37] < owl> wb
[11:38] < blindcoder> thx ^^
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[12:45] < owl> hi Nebukadneza
[12:45] < Nebukadneza> morning owl
[12:46] < blindcoder> hi Nebukadneza
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[14:18] < jsaw> re
[14:19] < owl> Error logs from rev1044-install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert:
[14:19] < owl> [3] base/parted                         [5] base/reiserfsprogs
[14:19] < owl> 157 builds total, 141 completed fine, 2 with errors.
[14:19] < owl> moin
[14:19] < jsaw> tach owl
[14:20] < jsaw> 919 builds total, 357 completed fine, 4 with errors.
[14:20] < jsaw> with gcc-3.3.1
[14:20] < owl> hmmmm
[14:20] < owl> but at least the fscking bootdisk-target should build without fscking bugs!
[14:21] < jsaw> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK
[14:21]   daja77 covers his ears
[14:21]   blindcoder now deaf
[14:22] < jsaw> sorry, guys
[14:22] < owl> *lol* better fix the bugs than complaining, guys
[14:22] < jsaw> always-friendly-owl should better look into the mirror
[14:22] < jsaw> then, say it again.
[14:23] < owl> thought once, that rock-2.0-STABLE should be released since 19c3... but now we have august and still not even a almost-stable 2.0-RC1!!!
[14:23] < owl> jsaw: :p nah
[14:23] < daja77> who is complaining now ...
[14:24] < owl> (to be honest it sucks. really sucks. it's almost as horrible as the 1.5-never-reached-1.6-stable-tree-crap... )
[14:24] < owl> daja77: me. but i don't complain about screaming guys
[14:26] < daja77> still complaining ...
[14:27] < owl> who?
[14:28]   daja77 now sleeping
[14:29] < owl> O_o
[14:29] < owl> gn8 daja77
[14:30]   jsaw needs coffee, lots of coffee
[14:31] < owl> hehe. junkie
[14:31]   jsaw puts his tabaco in his pocket, so noone will see...
[14:32] < owl> tabaco? or weed? *vbeg*
[14:32]   netrunner just realized that his build server can create his image gallery much faster than the fileserver :) no wonder with >10 times the speed :)
[14:32] < jsaw> owl: .oO( -censored- )
[14:33] < owl> hi Nebukadneza
[14:33] < owl> jsaw: haha. *kick*
[14:33] < owl> kewl. build finished... now creating iso...
[14:33] < owl> Error logs from rev1044-install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-bootdisk-expert:
[14:33] < owl> [3] base/parted                         [5] base/reiserfsprogs
[14:33] < owl> [5] base/dump
[14:33] < owl> 157 builds total, 154 completed fine, 3 with errors.
[14:34] < jsaw> owl: *jump-rotation-kick*
[14:34]   jsaw missed owl
[14:34]   jsaw now lying on the floor
[14:35] < owl> hahaha :p
[14:35] < owl> that is what you deserve :p evil man :p
[14:35] < jsaw> brb (cophee, ya know)
[14:40] < netrunner> pictures from da camp (unmodified, just rescaled a litte) https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/ccc-camp-03_small/img_2505-small-7-0.html
[14:43] < netrunner> ugh, I shouldn't broadcast such urls with that small upstream 8)
[14:43] < jsaw> hehe
[14:49] < owl> blindcoder: still here?
[14:49] < blindcoder> owl: yes
[14:52] < blindcoder> owl: ...
[14:53] < owl> blindcoder: do you know a good book for "abschlusspruefung fachinformatiker"?
[14:54] < blindcoder> owl: book as in preparation for test or book as in take it with you to the test?
[14:55] < owl> preparation
[14:56] < blindcoder> then no
[14:56] < blindcoder> and I doubt their existence
[14:57] < owl> they exist... (if they're good is the other question)
[14:57] < owl> (at least the most existent are makred as 4 or 5 points of 5... at amazon.de)
[14:58] < blindcoder> sorry, can't recommend one over another
[14:59] < owl> np
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[15:10] < owl> hi CumiPilek
[15:10] < CumiPilek> hello
[15:10] < CumiPilek> hehe better than sex huh :)
[15:11] < CumiPilek> anyone has any success installing rock on laptop?
[15:11] < blindcoder> yes here
[15:11] < blindcoder> 133 MHz, 16 MB RAM
[15:11] < blindcoder> 2GB HD
[15:11] < CumiPilek> wow
[15:12] < CumiPilek> blindcoder: how long did it take to compile ?
[15:12]   fake running -beta7 on crusoe tm 8500 sony vaio, installed over network
[15:12] < blindcoder> I didn't ocmpile it on the laptop :-)
[15:13] < blindcoder> CumiPilek: also, I'm only running a minimal system with XFree, icewm and gpsdrive added because of the small harddisk
[15:13] < blindcoder> CumiPilek: what are your problems?
[15:14] < CumiPilek> haven't tried yet actually
[15:14] < CumiPilek> but must we have internet access during the installation?
[15:14] < blindcoder> CumiPilek: oh, okay. what laptop are you planning to install on?
[15:15] < blindcoder> CumiPilek: no. that's not necessary if you already have the CDs
[15:15] < CumiPilek> HP OmniBook 5700ctx, P 166 MMX, 128 MB RAM, 3 GB HD
[15:16] < blindcoder> hmm... "should" not be a problem..
[15:16] < CumiPilek> yeah I tried Gentoo, but it required net access during installation, but I don't have modem/network card on my laptop
[15:16] < CumiPilek> blindcoder: so no net access at all required during Rock Linux installation?
[15:16] < blindcoder> well, if you hae the CDs you don't need network at install time
[15:17] < blindcoder> but you may run into other problems during installation
[15:18] < blindcoder> CumiPilek: if you run into the trouble that the install CD boots (kernel) but doesn't continue afterwards, have a look at how I solved it: https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/rocklinux/mine.html
[15:18] < blindcoder> (Note to self: kick clifford for an account on rocklinux.org during the next few days)
[15:19] < owl> .oO(meinem betrieb geht's an die eingeweiden *vbeg*)
[15:19] < blindcoder> owl: why?
[15:20]   owl running rock-2.0.0-minimal_XFree-target on asus l3800c and rock-2.0.0-pre6 on benq, joybook 5000
[15:20] < owl> blindcoder: because i will have a talk to ihk, soon...
[15:20] < owl> (already mailed them)
[15:21] < owl> https://www.heise.de/ct/03/16/050/ << btw
[15:22] < CumiPilek> blindcoder: how much efficiency does Rock gained with the compilation process, compared to say, Debian or Slackware?
[15:23] < fake> CumiPilek: huh?
[15:24] < CumiPilek> well supposedly, doing compilation would optimize a bit right?
[15:24] < kasc> .o( how much banana does a banana juice have compared with apple juice or cherry juice? ;)
[15:25] < CumiPilek> which decompresser program can handle .bz2 file format?
[15:25] < blindcoder> owl: well, that's nothing new to me, having experienced it myself
[15:25] < owl> blindcoder: and? what happend?
[15:25] < blindcoder> owl: well, I passed the test...
[15:25] < owl> CumiPilek: bunzip2
[15:25] < owl> blindcoder: huh? O_o
[15:26] < blindcoder> owl: my "Abschlussprojekt" was accepted without problems (Linux fileserver) and I was happy. But the problems with school and company... well... I don't like to talk/flame about that
[15:26] < CumiPilek> how about the ones under windows ?
[15:27] < kasc> CumiPilek: bunzip2/cygwin
[15:27] < kasc> moin, btw
[15:27] < fake> CumiPilek: winzip...
[15:27] < fake> CumiPilek: as dicussed in about 10 dozen places, the optimization is... not as important as most people think.
[15:28] < jsaw> CumiPilek: I had XFree running on my notebook (IBM 770ED, 266MHz, PII) long time ago with SuSE. X was horrible, stalling all the time. After recompiling with processor optimization: perfect! So, ...
[15:28]   blindcoder going home now, see you later
[15:28] < owl> have fun blindcoder . cya
[15:29] < jsaw> cu blindcoder
[15:29]   fake also thinks mozilla runs much faster if optimized correctly
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[15:51] < fake> hm.
[15:52] < owl> hm?
[15:53] < fake> damn work
[15:54] < owl> hm? why?
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[15:54] < fake> i'll have to finish quite some work in vienna
[15:54] < owl> O_o
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[16:08] < SMP> r1044-x86-pentium3-32-generic-expert build finished
[16:09] < SMP> 910 builds total, 872 completed fine, 33 with errors.
[16:10] < fake> SMP: built on 2.6 kernel?
[16:11] < SMP> yes
[16:11] < SMP> and with python 2.3
[16:11] < SMP> and with broken zlib
[16:11] < fake> ;)
[16:11] < fake> what was that yesterday with mozilla not building?
[16:14] < SMP> doesn't build on 2.6 - trivial fix already done (but not tested)
[16:15] < fake> what's the problem?
[16:16] < SMP> no security/coreconf/Linux2.6.mk
[16:16] < esden> hi all
[16:19] < fake> ahum?
[16:19] < fake> hi esden
[16:19] < owl> hi esden
[16:21] < esden> humm ... I still wait till it gets bit colder ...
[16:22]   fake working on it
[16:22] < owl> not just you...
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[16:22] < esden> I stil have 1000km to drive today/tomorrow
[16:22] < daja77> huhu fake
[16:22] < owl> thousand???
[16:22] < esden> yes
[16:23] < esden> from Stettin to Vienna
[16:23] < owl> omfg.
[16:23] < daja77> esden is in poland ...
[16:23] < owl> enjoy it :p
[16:23] < esden> I will enjoy it ;-)
[16:23] < esden> I am one hour away from the german border ;)
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[16:24] < netrunner> hi esden!
[16:24] < esden> hi netrunner
[16:24] < netrunner> esden: I am about to go to your flat, ... or are you about to come here?
[16:24]   daja77 notes that esden has internet even there
[16:24] < esden> netrunner: no I will drive directly to vienna
[16:24] < owl> *argh* my ventilator gave up running!!!!
[16:25] < netrunner> esden: ok. I'll report when I've been there.
[16:25] < esden> netrunner: I beg for it
[16:25] < esden> owl: burn baby burn ;)
[16:25] < netrunner> esden: there has been a power surge in munich on tuesday morning, made my server reboot. maybe yours came back up?
[16:25] < owl> esden: *ARGH* *kick*
[16:25] < esden> netrunner: humm ...
[16:25] < esden> netrunner: mom
[16:28] < fake> daja77: hi there
[16:28] < daja77> fake: /me just returned from bed ...
[16:29] < fake> daja77: i'll go to bed soon ;)
[16:29] < esden> netrunner: the box seems to be still offline
[16:29] < daja77> fake: hehe ok
[16:29] < esden> netrunner: please write me an sms when you have been there
[16:29] < netrunner> esden: ok. I'll be there in an hour. ... shall I just switch it on, or is it as hard to boot as your alpha? ;)
[16:29] < daja77> ...and tell the root passwd to the chan ...
[16:29] < esden> hehe ...
[16:29] < netrunner> esden: btw ... shall I bring that alpha to your flat or to vienna?
[16:30] < daja77> fake: do you wanna take some hw with you?
[16:30] < esden> netrunner: no ... it should come up ... but I think that I have not sshd in my init scripts so it will not ... ... /me starts thinking
[16:30] < esden> you know what ...
[16:30] < esden> I think that box is online
[16:31] < fake> daja77: just laptop
[16:31] < daja77> me too
[16:31] < esden> if I remember correctly I can not ping from the machines at the university the machines in the stusta
[16:31] < fake> daja77: and that little vaxen...
[16:31] < esden> and if my box rebooted then ssh is no more on ...
[16:31] < daja77> ladies and gentleman fasten your seatbelts, esden starts thinking ...
[16:31] < fake> daja77: ;)
[16:31] < fake> *brrrrrrrroooooooooooar*
[16:32] < esden> netrunner: please check only if everything is still in place ... I mean if there is still a mess in my room and if my bigtower is still there
[16:32] < esden> netrunner: and leave the stuff as it is ... you will not be able to get it back online anyway without my passwd help ;)
[16:32] < netrunner> esden: so if everything is cleaned up something is wrong :)
[16:32] < esden> netrunner: hehe ... yes ;)
[16:32] < netrunner> esden: I know of init=/bin/sh
[16:33] < owl> .oO(if not, call the local police, but don't tell esden that the stuff was stolen. otherwise he will have a heartache...)
[16:33]   netrunner installing backdoor on esden's server
[16:33] < esden> netrunner: you old hacker
[16:33]   netrunner is a 31337 h@X0r
[16:34] < netrunner> owl: I said so often to him stuff like I left the car open and so on, he probably wouldn't believe me anyway :)
[16:34] < esden> netrunner: you cann mess around if you whish ... besides some porno stuff there is nothirg really importaint on my box ;)
[16:34]   daja77 phears netrunner
[16:34] < esden> ok ... there are some dietlibc patches ...
[16:34] < esden> but if you kill them fefe will take care of you
[16:34] < daja77> dietlibc and pron what a combination
[16:34] < netrunner> esden: Oh, I have still 60G from the camp to put somewhere ... and I still do not know where :)
[16:34] < esden> that is bad enough
[16:35] < netrunner> hehe, dietlibc pr0n = story left out :)
[16:35] < fake> why can't i export /dev over NFS?
[16:35] < esden> daja77: that is better then leather and latex
[16:36] < daja77> depends on the pron you have ...
[16:36] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[16:37]   fake wonders who wrote '7331 HaX0r 0wn3d' into the dirt on his car
[16:37] < blindcoder> fake: do you have Network Block Device in your kernel
[16:37] < esden> daja77: aha ... you will have to enlighten me what pr0n you mean ;)
[16:37] < blindcoder> esden: *moep*
[16:37] < esden> hi blindcoder
[16:37] < fake> blindcoder: concordingly. vis-a-vis. ergi.
[16:37] < fake> blindcoder: i have no idea.
[16:37] < blindcoder> fake: well... then check :)
[16:37] < esden> who is already at vienna?
[16:38] < esden> and who will be there when?
[16:38] < fake> blindcoder: is that default in rock kernels? i'm running one...
[16:38] < netrunner> esden: /me and blindy will be there tomorrow for lunch.
[16:38] < blindcoder> fake: default: no
[16:38] < daja77> esden: I could never enlighten you ...
[16:38] < fake> esden: rxr and gf are there, +1
[16:38] < fake> esden: daja77 and me are going to arrive eraly tomorrow
[16:39] < fake> blindcoder: damn it.
[16:39] < fake> blindcoder: nah, then i'll try something else.
[16:39] < esden> ok .. I will be there in 10hours + time to leave from here in stettin
[16:39] < esden> that means about 19 ... or so
[16:39] < esden> 19 o'clock I will leave here
[16:40] < esden> I hope at least
[16:40] < netrunner> esden: today?
[16:40] < esden> netrunner: ack
[16:40]   daja77 trying to leave 19 o'clock too
[16:40] < netrunner> esden: https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/ccc-camp-03_small.html
[16:40] < daja77> esden: wanna bet who is faster
[16:40] < esden> daja77: how many hours do you need to get to vienna from your place?
[16:41] < netrunner> daja77: when do you plan to drive through ingolstadt?
[16:42] < daja77> esden: 10h at least i think
[16:42] < daja77> netrunner: between 23:00 and 24:00
[16:42] < esden> how much does a vigniet cost?
[16:42] < fake> no idea...
[16:42] < netrunner> esden: to much. i think 18 EUR for 10 days
[16:43] < esden> bleahhhhhhh
[16:43] < esden> but it is less then I thought it will cost ...
[16:44] < daja77> do they have non eu pricing for esden *ggg*
[16:44] < netrunner> esden: oh, it's only 7.60 as I read on asfinag.at
[16:47] < esden> daja77: ....
[16:47] < esden> netrunner: even better ;)
[16:47] < daja77> esden: yes?
[16:48] < daja77> netrunner: why do you ask?
[16:49] < netrunner> daja77: wanted to compute who is faster :) but you start much earlyer than me, could only be faster if you were not going by car :)
[16:49] < daja77> hehe :P
[16:49] < esden> ahh finally all rlml mails read
[16:50] < daja77> cheers esden ...
[16:50]   daja77 hides
[16:52] < netrunner> esden: what's the name of the road of the blue building?
[16:52] < esden> Christoph-Probst Strasse ...
[16:53] < esden> but I do not know the number ... sorry
[16:53]   daja77 now packing stuff
[16:53] < daja77> cu
[16:53] < esden> but I think you can detect a blue color ;)
[16:53] < esden> ok ... I go cleaning up my car for the trip
[16:53] < esden> cu l8er guys ... probably tomorrow
[16:53] < netrunner> esden: doesn't matter, it's big enough.
[16:53] < esden> yes ;)
[16:53] < netrunner> esden: ciao, good drive :)
[16:54] < esden> thanks you too
[16:57] < netrunner> esden: wait ...
[16:57] < netrunner> esden: that alpha ... shall I bring it to vienna or to your flat?
[16:57]   netrunner hopes he has not hung up yet ...
[17:00] < netrunner> ... oh well, I'll bring it to vienna. isn't that big.
[17:06] < esden> netrunner: bring the alpha from clifford to my flat ...
[17:06] < esden> the one without doors that are breaking away ;)
[17:19] < rxr> re
[17:19] < rxr> hi esden
[17:20] < esden> hi rxr
[17:20] < esden> argh ... I hate windows!!!!!!!!!
[17:20] < esden> thank god I have linux on my laptop ... *sigh*
[17:20] < owl> haeh?
[17:20] < owl> what does god have to do with linux?
[17:22] < jsaw> bbl
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[17:30] < blindcoder> netrunner: okay, I have all maps and cliffords GPS-Coords on my machine now, will sync them to my laptop
[17:33] < esden> owl ... a lot ... a lot
[17:33] < esden> ok now I am realy off
[17:33] < esden> cu guys
[17:34] < owl> esden: hoeh???
[17:34] < owl> bye esden
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[17:41]   fake is god, and uses linux, so yes, god has something to do with linux
[17:41]   fake blesses rock
[17:42] < owl> *rofl*
[17:42] < owl> fake = nothing :p
[17:42] < fake> well, to be exact, i am god's son (ever wondered why god uses sexual reproduction? who is the female part? isn't he/seh almighty?)
[17:42] < fake> and i have proof
[17:42] < fake> because...
[17:42] < fake> i wear no shoes
[17:43] < fake> and, as told in the bible, jesus didn't wear shoes, too, most of the time
[17:43]   owl looks strang onto fake
[17:43] < fake> therefore i must be jesus
[17:43] < owl> nah :p
[17:44]   blindcoder now packing for Vienna
[17:44] < owl> but wtf are you reading the bible? O_o
[17:45] < fake> owl: it's interesting
[17:45] < owl> interesting? O_o
[17:45] < fake> owl: i also read the bhagavadgita and started reading the koran
[17:45]   owl phears fake
[17:45] < fake> owl: besides some buddistic and shintoistic lectures...
[17:46] < fake> ph34r m4 m4d r34d0r1ng sk1llz
[17:46] < owl> yeah...
[17:46] < owl> are you believing in "someone or something" or just curious?
[17:46] < fake> owl: just wondering how so many people can believe in things that are most certainly just a fake ;)
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[17:47] < fake> besides, there is much more to those books.
[17:47] < owl> hehe. k. puh.
[17:47] < daja77> fake: btw do you have clifford's address?
[17:47] < fake> daja77: i'll print a map and stuff later
[17:48] < daja77> ok
[17:48] < owl> fake: what is to those books then?
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[17:48] < daja77> I mean I have found the village on the map, but i don't have an address ...
[17:48] < fake> owl: they teach you to think in many different ways
[17:49] < fake> daja77: i will remember where he lives, once we're there, don't worry
[17:49] < fake> (you can actually smell clifford's house *g*)
[17:49] < daja77> huh, is he selling chinese food or what?
[17:51] < fake> no, they have a very interesting garden... nah, you'll see.
[17:51] < tcr> daja77: clifford's address in on the website
[17:51] < tcr> moin all, btw.
[17:52] < owl> *rofl* very interesting garden...
[17:52] < daja77> hehe
[17:53] < tcr> Finally managed to finish tinkering on my PCs... I'm so relieved... fuzzing around with hardware isn't really what I like most
[17:53] < tcr> Now I just have to install that minimal iso on them, and then... cluster build I'm comming!
[17:54] < fake> hm...
[17:54] < fake> libdvdcss and libdvdread give up on reading my DVD here -_-
[17:54] < daja77> hehe this is unfair jsaw is not working alone ...
[17:55] < fake> ah, now it works.
[17:55] < owl> *argh*
[17:56] < owl> variable's name where i can specify if i want to build a package statically?
[17:56] < blindcoder> CFLAGS="-static"
[17:57] < owl> in $package.conf ?
[17:57] < blindcoder> may work... may not... no idea
[17:57] < owl> *gnarf* thx anyway
[17:57] < owl> .oO(work faster prozessor, work faster!!! i don't want to miss my train *grml*)
[17:58] < rolla> re
[17:58] < daja77> oh should i better not mention that openbox doesn't compile here ...
[17:58] < daja77> hi rolla
[17:58] < owl> daja77: why not compile?
[17:59] < owl> blindcoder: doesn't work
[17:59] < owl> anyways / me running to train bbl
[17:59] < daja77> Translation.m:171: invalid character: message ignored
[17:59] < daja77> Translation.m:172: invalid character: message ignored
[17:59] < daja77> Translation.m:173: invalid character: message ignored
[17:59] < daja77> Translation.m:190: invalid character: message ignored
[17:59] < daja77> Translation.m:191: invalid character: message ignored
[17:59] < daja77> stuff like that
[17:59] < owl> daja77: normal
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[17:59] < daja77> anyway have fun later
[18:00] < fake> [*] Disable internationl Language support
[18:00] < fake> ;)
[18:00] < daja77> but fscked up
[18:00] < owl> but doesn't deliver you a .err...?
[18:00] < daja77> ha ha
[18:00] < daja77> it does
[18:00] < owl> aha?
[18:00] < owl> well. www.openbox.org
[18:00] < owl> *gnarf* off
[18:01] < daja77> i don't need it, just saying the rock package is borken
[18:01] < daja77> anyway cu
[18:04] < rxr> re
[18:04] < fake> rxr: hi
[18:04] < fake> rxr: how's the weather in vienna?
[18:04] < rxr> hot as in berlin ...
[18:04] < rxr> me off now ...
[18:04] < rxr> cu
[18:04] < fake> wait
[18:05] < fake> -SIGPAUSE
[18:05] < fake> hrmpf.
[18:05] < fake> that would have saved me a phone call to vienna... nah..
[18:10] < rolla> fake: I just saw the coolest new machine
[18:11] < tcr> Hmm
[18:11] < rolla> AMD 64bit workstation
[18:11] < rolla> it comes from the company who's name is close to HAL
[18:12] < tcr> I wonder how the "Installation overview" should be used
[18:12] < tcr> I'm speaking about the boot programm of the installation cd
[18:13] < tcr> The output has far more lines than the screen, and there doesn't seem to be a way of scrolling up
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[18:25] < tcr> fake: Hum?
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[19:33] < daja77> fake: /me now putting stuff into car, and starting
[19:34] < daja77> cu
[19:36] < fake> daja77 : me going to bed ;)
[19:36] < fake> map printed
[19:36] < fake> gn8!
[19:42] < netrunner> ;) cleaned dad's pc from blaster
[19:46] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[20:00] < tcr> hi blindcoder
[20:01] < blindcoder> hi tcr
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[20:30]   tcr mut laugh about the smileys in the colored sys-v init system
[20:30] < tcr> must
[20:54] < blindcoder> damn, I'm so fucking bored, I could die of boredness and would be too bored to even notice or care!
[21:00] < netrunner> damn. I still have to clean up one room here. and all I do is sit here and watch movies.
[21:00] < netrunner> :)
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[21:00] < tfing> hi tcr
[21:02] < owl> remoin
[21:03] < tcr> hi tfing :) whazzup
[21:03] < tfing> tcr: just to inform you that developer is "développeur" in french ;)
[21:03] < tfing> small typo on your 'poster'
[21:04] < tcr> I think développer is the verb?
[21:05] < blindcoder> re owl
[21:05] < tfing> tcr: yep
[21:05] < tfing> but you are talking about the noun
[21:05] < tcr> So my poster is still right :)
[21:05] < tcr> No I'm not :P
[21:05] < tcr> developer < develop < développer
[21:05] < tcr> you see?
[21:05] < tfing> hmm, k
[21:07] < tcr> Alright then ... I'll go to friend now
[21:07] < tfing> bye
[21:07]   blindcoder tries to sleep now... n8
[21:08] < owl> gn8 blindy
[21:19]   owl np: front 242 - headhunter
[21:19]   netrunner recooking
[21:21] < owl> recooking?
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[21:22] < owl> *har* someone thought that /me will hunt for his head :p
[21:23] < netrunner> owl: has already been cooked by me, and then deep-frozen. now I am basically reheating it :)
[21:26] < owl> ah so
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[21:31]   owl going to shoot someone
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[21:38] < owl> O_o hi awacs
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[22:12] < jsaw_> re
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[22:45] < fake> *yawn*
[22:45] < owl> .oO(lazy man)
[23:10] < owl> <-- off for bed. gn8
[23:17] < jsaw> gn8 owl
[23:22] < tcr> hey jsaw
[23:23] < jsaw> hi tcr.
[23:25] < tcr> jsaw: Say, for the zlib problem.. is it really necessary to run the stuff twice?
[23:26] < tcr> What about passing -fPIC to gcc from the beginning on (so we produce a shared lib first), then strip the *.o files and finally ar them up?
[23:28] < jsaw> it is just a workaround right now for my tree. I think your proposal is much better. Post a message to the ML!!!!
[23:29] < tcr> Did you contact the zlib people?
[23:31] < jsaw> Nope. It's that way since ages. Second, that's a maintainer job and I don't know if I would interfere. (I did it already for a couple of my packages)
[23:32] < tcr> what maintainer do you mean know?
[23:33] < jsaw> zlib.desc: [M] Cliff..
[23:33] < tcr> ROCK linux repository maintainer or actual maintainer of zlib?
[23:33] < tcr> Ah
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[23:34] < jsaw> (PS: I would do it, but I'm also pretty loaded with work...)
[23:34] < tcr> Ok, I think we need another term for that. I suggest rep-warder
[23:35] < tcr> jsaw: I don't think it's the task of the rep-warder
[23:36] < tcr> jsaw: According to me, there'd be a policy for patches against packages, that everyone who sends such a patch must ensure that the patch goes mainstream if appropriate
[23:37] < tcr> Whatever
[23:37] < jsaw> tcr: well, yes. I should have noted, that there are hidden [M] tags
[23:37] < jsaw> (which are those people that supply patches...)
[23:38] < jsaw> but here, it's a workaround, not a patch for zlib.
[23:38] < jsaw> if I'd do a patch to the configure script (like I did for libgda08), I'd send it.
[23:39] < tcr> I'll contact zlib maintainers right now
[23:39] < jsaw> thx
[23:49] < jsaw> tcr: eh, fPIC and then strip will not produce the same result. It might work, but will be most probably bigger.
[23:50] < jsaw> (but this is something ppl with other arch then x86 have to check...)
[23:50] < jsaw> brb
[23:51] < tcr> jsaw: I know that.
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[23:59] < tcr> Ok, mail sent off to the zlib maintainers
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