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00:00 * jsaw wants a branch in rxr's svn repo *cry*
00:00 < Mike1> jsaw: what for/
00:02 < jsaw> easier to manage
00:02 < Mike1> u can have ur own svn server ..
00:03 < jsaw> yeah, I could. But if its on schillernet, rxr could simply do a merge instead of /me sending the diffs
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00:05 < Nebukadneza> fake: did the dcom48 rpc work???
00:05 < Nebukadneza> (if he is here ...)
00:05 * jsaw off now, doing some serious data analysis *yawn*
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00:18 < rxr> re
00:19 < Mike1> hi Ren
00:21 < owl> hi rxr 
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00:24 < Mike1> ok i go now..
00:24 < Mike1> n8 all
00:26 < owl> bye Mike1 
00:28 < n00kie_> sleep well Mike1 :)
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00:59 < n00kie_> I'll go to my bed :)
00:59 < n00kie_> good night
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01:20 < daja77> re
01:21 < mistik1> hey
01:22 < mistik1> Massive power outage over here
01:22 < mistik1> almost the entire east coast of the US down at once
01:26 < daja77> lol
01:55 * netrunner is experiencing extreme power loss in his main brain.
01:55 < Nebukadneza> n8
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09:53 < blindcoder> moin moin
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10:12 < blindcoder> moin tcr
10:12 < tcr> moin blindcoder
10:13 * tcr looks for a cheap (ie. small) internet radio player for windows
10:13 < tcr> winamp, realplayer... all fucking big
10:16 < blindcoder> hmm... I know of none
10:18 < daja77> moin
10:19 < tcr> moin daja77
10:20 < daja77> moin tcr
10:22 * tcr is still downloading -required
10:24 < daja77> hehe :P
10:29 < tcr> daja77: Already breakfasted?
10:30 < daja77> lol no nobody awake besides mblindy and me
10:33 * tcr just did :P
10:41 < blindcoder> breakfast==coffee
10:46 < daja77> clifford's dad is making some breakfast for us 
11:04 < tcr> bbl
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11:44 < owl> moin
11:45 < owl> someone could please tell me the keycode of "< | >" key?
11:48 < blindcoder> moinmoin owl
11:49 < owl> blindcoder: hi. do you know the solution of my problem?
11:49 < blindcoder> no, sorry
11:49 < owl> hm. thx. 
11:49 < owl> showkeys $taste
11:50 < owl> or better: `showkeys'
11:50 < owl> type this key then
11:50 < blindcoder> hiswill takesometime
11:50 < owl> O_o why?
11:51 < blindcoder> becase the laptop is slooooow
11:52 < blindcoder> keycode  86 press
11:52 < blindcoder> keycode  86 release
11:57 < owl> ok. danke
11:57 < owl> (and the scancode?)
11:57 < blindcoder> no undea
11:58 < blindcoder> idea
11:58 < blindcoder> that's whatscankeyreturned
11:59 < blindcoder> and yes, my spacebar isb b0rken
12:01 < owl> scankey...??? which package?
12:03 < blindcoder> no idea
12:03 < owl> *grml* thx
12:10 < owl> how is vienna?
12:14 < daja77> fine
12:21 < fake> 1681 builds total, 759 completed fine, 272 with errors.
12:21 < fake> >_<
12:21 < daja77> lol
12:22 < owl> fake: wtf are you doing? O_
12:22 < owl> o
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12:28 < fake> owl: generic target...
12:28 < daja77> fake: can you tell me if x has failed?
12:29 < owl> fake: wuhu... and i thought it was my fault, when i had over 53 errors... (and aborted then)
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12:32 < jsaw> re
12:32 < fake> daja77: yes.
12:32 < jsaw> hi all
12:32 < fake> daja77: just noticed - tcltk is the first to complain aoput a missing Xlib.h
12:33 < fake> i set xfree to use a cvs checkout
12:33 * fake looking at logfile
12:33 < daja77> cool, mind doin a debug session, cos i have this problem at work, happy to find someone with the same problem
12:33 < daja77> oh /me has no cvs checkout
12:39 < fake> yeah, xfree86-cvs failed.
12:41 < fake> o/~ ich gehe weiter unter, der boden ist noch nicht erreicht, ich gehe weiter runter... o/~
12:42 < daja77> huh?
12:43 < fake> rm: cannot remove `/usr/X11': Is a directory
12:43 < fake> NARF!
12:43 < fake> it did build...
12:45 < jsaw> rm -rf /usr/X11*, and re-compile (had the same problem yesterday with xfree86, don't know why)
12:45 < jsaw> the it worked again.
12:48 < jsaw> I think, it is some build order problem. Something which goes to /usr/X11 is build before xfree86.
12:53 < fake> jsaw: there is a file called /usr/X11/bin, if you run it, it says it's mkttfontdir...
12:53 < fake> that should be fixed ;)
12:55 < owl> fake: does your company still need "fachinformatiker" for the year 2003?
13:01 < jsaw> fake: will send a patch later, for now, set the xfree86-cvs priority to the xfree86 priority
13:01 < jsaw> brb
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13:13 < fake> owl: you can always send a 'bewerbung'
13:14 < fake> jsaw: rene is at it, he is here in vienna too, and i caught him and cursed him already ;)
13:14 < owl> fake: oki. thx. and? - how do you see my chances?
13:14 < fake> owl: good, because i'm gonna recommend you ;)
13:15 < owl> fake: kewl. thx :) 
13:15 * fake Illuminate - Ein neuer Tag
13:16 < owl> l ame immortelle - love is lost
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13:20 < jsaw> fake: thanks
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13:23 < fake> ok, who made the rrdtool package?
13:24 < fake> tsa...
13:26 < fake> and libchipcard creates /usr/var...
13:27 < fake> rrdtool creates /usr/html, /usr/exmplaes and /usr/contrib...
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13:41 < tcr> moin all
13:43 < tcr> <27>Aug 15 13:37:44 insmod: insmod minix failed
13:43 < tcr> Can't mount /mnt/source: Invalid Argument
13:44 < tcr> Extracting 2nd stage filesystem to ram ...
13:45 < tcr> tar (child): Cannot open archive /mnt_source/2.0.0-beta6-x86-i386-bootdisk-expert/2nd_stage.tar.gz: No such file or directory
13:45 < tcr> ...
13:45 < tcr> It's the same CD I used to install on another PC yesterday
13:47 < tcr> Oh, it may be hardware related
13:48 < jsaw> still not a good excuse.
13:49 < tcr> Well, yeah... there's a certain need for a debugging facility that shows what commands has been run and what they put out
13:52 < jsaw> tcr: maybe cleaning the CD or CD-ROM may help?
13:52 < jsaw> brb
13:54 < tcr> Don't think so, since I actually boot from CD
13:54 < tcr> But I just noticed, when I restarted, that my master harddisk isn't recognized by the bios
13:54 < jsaw> re.
13:54 < jsaw> tcr: no, you boot from floppy
13:54 < tcr> I don't boot from floppy
13:54 < tcr> Don't say what I do, really I should know better ;)
13:55 < jsaw> (bios treats it as floppy, sure)
13:55 < tcr> Aha
13:55 < jsaw> therefore, the CD may not be recognized by the kernel, even if you boot from CD...
13:56 < jsaw> -> driver problem, errors on other sectors....?
13:57 < tcr> wait up, master hdd is recognized now
13:57 < tcr> will try again
13:59 < tcr> The same
13:59 < tcr> Looking at the boot log... seems pretty normal
14:03 < tcr> Hmm, I'm trying an old 1.5.12 cd now
14:04 < tcr> Bah, it gets stuck when trying to load the ramdisk
14:04 < tcr> Whatever, I'll go to a friend now... cu later
14:04 < jsaw> tcr: ...damn... I once in a while also have a problem on first CD boot, 2nd time: after hitting CAdel, everything works fine. ...?...
14:05 < tcr> will you be still here in ~two hours?
14:05 < jsaw> more or less 
14:05 < tcr> *g* oki
14:06 * tcr bbl
14:06 < jsaw> let's go to florida for free: https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,261341,00.html
14:10 < jsaw> yeah, we have a BTS now
14:13 < daja77> hehe yes
14:13 < tcr> but it's kinda misused :P
14:14 < jsaw> ?
14:16 < tcr> It's a bug tracking system ...
14:16 < tcr> Nevermind, I like it a lot already.. and anyway I'm away 
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14:33 < fake> ah
14:33 < fake> finally got dri running
14:34 < rolla> re
14:34 < daja77> fake: good
14:34 < daja77> hi rolla
14:38 < rolla> re daja77 
14:39 < rolla> have you seen a AMD Opteron in action yet?
14:45 < jsaw> cu l8r
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14:55 < SMP> anyone from dev-meeting around?
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15:28 < netrunne1> smp: everybody relaxing from exhausting pizza munching.
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15:33 < daja77> rolla: nope
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15:39 < esden> hi all
15:40 < daja77> huhu esden 
15:40 < esden> hi daja77 ;)
15:40 < esden> *wave*
15:40 < daja77> *rewave*
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15:41 < blindcoder> *alsowave*
15:41 * fake *tiredwave*
15:41 < daja77> why tired :P
15:41 * -> esden falling asleep
15:41 * netrunner shaking esden
15:42 < esden> autsch
15:42 * -> esden killing netrunner 
15:43 * daja77 watching the show
15:49 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
15:49 < LocalHero> Hi all
15:52 < esden> hi LocalHero 
15:55 < LocalHero> hi esden
15:55 < LocalHero> Anybody know why i get this when compiling kde 3.1.3?
15:55 < LocalHero> I get lots of this in kdemultimedia?!? /usr/include/asm/byteorder.h:38: syntax error before "__u64"
15:55 < LocalHero> isnt that include files from the kernel? should they be corupted?
15:57 < SMP> it's known
15:58 < LocalHero> SMP???
15:58 < daja77> wooohooo /me back
15:59 < LocalHero> daja77, waaahooo :)
15:59 < LocalHero> Wow, we finaly have rain in sweden.. Hallelulja
15:59 < SMP> LocalHero: https://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=105761977009209&w=2 <- page doesn't load for me at the moment
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16:00 < SMP> LocalHero: there was a proposed fix posted some days ago to rock-linux, but Rene rejected it and said he would fix it soon
16:00 < LocalHero> SMP, oki, so i just upgreade the kernel and links in its asm dir
16:01 < SMP> how is that supposed to fix it?
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16:02 < daja77> now can say dirty things about esden, and won't notice ...
16:03 < LocalHero> SMP, well as the page said you could fix it with the headers from linux-2.4.20. So i guess its fixed in the newer. A kernel bug :)
16:03 < LocalHero> We will se
16:03 < blindcoder> harrharr
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16:05 * daja77 now forced to listen to esden's music
16:06 < LocalHero> Wow, its compiling :)
16:07 < esden> daja77: you poor bay ;)
16:07 < esden> erm boy
16:07 < daja77> :P
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16:07 < esden> daja77: :-*
16:09 < daja77> wb fake
16:18 < rolla> yawn
16:18 < fake> oo)Osloooooooow
16:19 < fake> slow slow slow slow
16:20 < blindcoder> booooooooooooring
16:20 * netrunner getting tired
16:21 < blindcoder> yeah.../ike everyone else
16:24 < daja77> ts get more coffe and stop complaining
16:25 < blindcoder> na, need something to do... something interesting
16:26 < daja77> help creating cdlabels
16:26 * daja77 yawns
16:26 < daja77> help me
16:42 < esden> yawn
16:59 < daja77> cu
17:05 * rolla is bored
17:39 * daja77 too
17:51 < netrunner> three
17:53 < daja77> :P boring counter
17:53 < tcr> switch on the tv, I guess Kabel1 is broadcasted even in austria
17:54 < daja77> throw away your tv and be happy
17:54 < tcr> blah, me's enjoying star trek! :PPPPPP
17:55 < daja77> :P
18:00 < owl> remoin
18:01 < fake> moin owl
18:02 < owl> huhu fake 
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18:08 < owl>  While installing GEM file xfree86-4.3.99.8.gem: Not a directory
18:08 < owl> O_o wtf is that?
18:09 < tcr> strace mine
18:09 < SMP> did you uninstall that package before?
18:09 < owl> nope... it was not present on the system before...
18:09 < owl> /usr/sbin/cron.run: line 41: /etc/cron.d/20-prelink: Permission denied
18:09 < owl> (minimal-beta-6...)
18:09 < SMP> that was fixed post beta6
18:09 < fake> o_O
18:10 < SMP> and that file removed after that
18:10 < owl> hm. k. 
18:10 < SMP> fake: are you in Vienna?
18:15 < tcr> Fuck
18:16 < tcr> Still the same problem as before
18:16 < fake> SMP: ack
18:16 < owl> .oO(inserting the cdrom into the drive might would help)
18:37 < rxr> re
18:38 < owl> wb
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18:42 < SMP> anyone have a galeon that doesn't crash?
18:43 < netrunner> SMP: the one I built with rev ~600 works fine (the one on ~200 not)
18:43 < SMP> you are _so_ smart
18:44 < netrunner> SMP: what's your problem?
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18:45 < SMP> I care more about rev. > 1000
18:47 < rxr> SMP: for me here the galeon2 works fine ... - in which use case does it crash for you ?
18:48 < SMP> what's galeon2 supposed to be?
18:48 < SMP> we only have a galeon13 package
18:49 < rxr> yes - I meant the galeon13 package - which is meant to become 2 ...
18:49 < SMP> and it crashes on startup
18:49 < rxr> I'll quite now again since the isdn line is too staturated ....
18:50 < SMP> the backtrace ends in libpthread, which looks familiar - I have had konqueror crash smililarly
18:54 -!- LocalHero [~chatzilla@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
18:54 < LocalHero> Hi all
18:58 < owl> hi LocalHero 
19:00 < SMP> LocalHero: does kdemultimedia compile now?
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19:03 < LocalHero> owl, hi :)
19:03 < LocalHero> SMP, yupp, just download the 2.4.20 source and link in the include/asm-i386 in /usr/include/asm
19:03 < SMP> yuck
19:06 < owl> aeh? symlinking asm??? O_o though it's recommended to copy it?
19:06 < SMP> yes, but the one that was compied from 2.4.21 is bad
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19:09 < LocalHero> rxr, you there?
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19:55 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,261341,00.html << wonderful country... ouch. 
20:02 < tcr> jsaw_: ping
20:09 < owl> .oO(if someone has a _ in the nick, normally the person is not online...)
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20:13 < tcr> owl: you're so intelligent, I admire you...
20:13 < owl> tcr: i love you too. .oO(a***)
20:14 < tcr> I asked ust for the case that he _might_ be there 
20:15 < owl> if he would have been there, he normally would have renamed himself to jswa
20:15 < owl> jsaw even
20:15 < tcr> whateva. I'm away watching enterprise
20:18 < LocalHero> Hmm, my computer is so slow :(
20:18 < LocalHero> Is there a way to increase compile speed ?
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20:19 < tcr> LocalHero: You can shut down programms, for instance X..
20:20 < LocalHero> tcr. Hmm, well that would free up some memory and thats not the issue :).. Is there not any compile flags to make gcc use some kind of "slippy" compiling?
20:23 < tcr> LocalHero: No, it would not only free memory, it'd also lessen the process list
20:23 < tcr> So that the processes of the compilation get more cpu time
20:24 < tcr> LocalHero: Flags... Well turn off optimasation
20:24 < LocalHero> tcr. Hmm, true, but one box doesnt have x at all :)
20:24 < tcr> optimization even
20:24 < LocalHero> tcr, hmm, oki? Dont think i have them turned on
20:24 < owl> LocalHero: already saw the uploaded iso?
20:25 < LocalHero> uhh, jupp, hmm, im creating a new ftp root right now :). Just want rene to sync his dir to
20:26 < owl> hehe
20:26 < tcr> LocalHero: I think they're turned on automatically, if not by ROCK directly, then by most of the pkgs
20:26 < tcr> LocalHero: And you actually should let them turned on...
20:27 < LocalHero> tcr, oki, better wait then :) . Maybe i could go and buy some kande meanwhile
20:28 < tcr> whatever that is...
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20:29 < esden> hi all ... you are beeing seen on the beamer on rock dev meeting
20:30 * owl hides :p
20:30 < owl> hi esden 
20:30 < LocalHero> hehe, beamer? Ahh, whatz that? Like those laser "beamers" in startreek? :)
20:30 < esden> hi owl 
20:32 < tcr> Buah, I really, _really_ loath those fucking commercial breaks..
20:32 < LocalHero> ahh, then tell rxr to sync his files.. Ahh, or should i say beam his files :)
20:33 < netrunner> ui, I am on tv! :)
20:33 < esden> LocalHero: what files ....
20:35 < LocalHero> esden, the stable isos
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20:42 < n00kie> Heya LocalHero :)
20:43 < LocalHero> n00kie,  Hi,, hmm, wow, whazzup? :)
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20:46 < n00kie> Just wanted to say "Heya LocalHero :)" :)
20:46 < LocalHero> hehe :)
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20:51 < LocalHero> No problem. Its (or all on rocklinux) that should thank you for sharing your iso :)
20:51 < LocalHero> ups, should go to owl :)
20:51 < owl> :p
20:55 < LocalHero> got to go.. Cya all
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20:59 < owl> hi Nebukadneza 
21:00 < Nebukadneza> hi owl
21:00 < Nebukadneza> how are you?
21:00 < owl> Nebukadneza: alive, i fear. thx. you?
21:01 < Nebukadneza> :)
21:01 < Nebukadneza> alive .. *G*
21:01 * Nebukadneza feels ok :)
21:01 < owl> Nebukadneza: what is so funny with "alive"?
21:02 < Nebukadneza> alive!=good ... it isnt funny
21:02 < owl> ack
21:03 < n00kie> I love to life :)
21:04 < owl> i hate to life
21:04 < Nebukadneza> owl: thats what i say :)
21:10 < owl> hmmmmmmmmmm
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21:25 < tcr> Hey, guys... (are we still on the beamer?)
21:26 < rolla> beamer?
21:27 < tcr> rolla: Yup. (or do you want to wtf that is?)
21:27 < tcr> to know
21:28 < Nebukadneza> hm
21:28 < Nebukadneza> anyone here who can take a look @ my iptables?
21:28 < Nebukadneza> if they would work ...
21:29 < rolla> wtf is it?
21:29 < Nebukadneza> iptables ... paketfilters
21:29 < rolla> Nebukadneza: iptables --list
21:29 < Nebukadneza> i know
21:29 < Nebukadneza> :)
21:29 < rolla> oh yeah I might be able to help
21:29 < rolla> query me with them
21:29 < owl> hi rolla 
21:30 < Nebukadneza> ok
21:30 < tcr> rolla: kinda projector, but the picture of a screen is projected on wall, not a foil
21:40 < netrunner> https://homepage.schleswig-holstein.de/bandlist/thailand_new/phuket_by_night/gottesanbeterin.jpg
21:40 < netrunner> https://www.beesign.at/falten/view/mantis.jpg
21:44 < netrunner> (where I like the latter) ;)
21:45 < Nebukadneza> cya
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21:47 < rolla> damn I missed him
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21:49 < rolla> Nebukadneza: sorry I steped away for a moment
21:49 < Nebukadneza> np
21:49 < Nebukadneza> but i have to reinstall then ...
21:49 < rolla> suck
21:49 < rolla> I must go to a meeting ttyl
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22:03 < hopelessOwl> hi guys!
22:04 < hopelessOwl> rocklinux seems to have extreme problems with permissions in "/etc/*" - at least it's in minmal_XFree.iso just "-rw-------" rights... 
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22:16 < hopelessOwl> *starting terror-ping to rock-developers*
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22:25 < hopelessOwl> hi dennis 
22:25 < hopelessOwl> dennis: your centericq has problems...
22:39 < dennis> hopelessOwl: i know, i alway get a wrong cksum :(
22:39 < tcr> Anyone of the dev-meeting people here?
22:40 < hopelessOwl> dennis: not just  the cksum... when compiling, i get every time "error 2" in libxml or so...
22:40 < hopelessOwl> does it depend on libxml, maybe? 
22:40 < hopelessOwl> in licq2000 or so module
22:41 < dennis> hopelessOwl: i don't get any errors by compiling
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22:41 < hopelessOwl> hrm
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23:00 < owl_> rehi
23:00 < owl_> fscking fli4l-router
23:03 < n00kie_> owl_: Update to rock router :)
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23:16 < hopelessOwl> *grml* rehi
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23:30 < daja77> re
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23:32 < daja77> rolla: a beamer is just a video projector
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23:52 < Mike1> re all.
23:53 < daja77> hi Mike1 
23:54 < daja77> greetings from esden
23:54 < Mike1> hi daniel
23:54 < Mike1> hello MPET
23:54 < Mike1> how is the dev meeting doing?
23:54 < daja77> cool
23:54 * Mike1 wishing to be there.. lucky bastards
23:55 < daja77> we are debating issues from bug tracking system
23:55 < Mike1> good
23:56 < Mike1> daja77: wanna broadcast the meeting for me?
23:56 < Mike1> :)
23:58 < daja77> hehe clifford will kill me for that
23:59 < Mike1> daja77: thats a risk i will take
23:59 < Mike1> :P
23:59 < daja77> lol
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