-!- Irrsi Log opened Wed Aug 20 00:00:55 2003
[00:01] < rxr> netrunner: ah yes right ... I do installation to seldom ...
[00:01] < rxr> hi mnemoc
[00:02] < rxr> esden: arround ?
[00:04] < mnemoc> hi rxr
[00:05] < jsaw_> re
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[00:05] < rxr> hi jsaw
[00:06] < jsaw> hi rxr
[00:06] < jsaw> hi *
[00:09] < mnemoc> hi jsaw
[00:09] < jsaw> hi there
[00:14] < esden> ok ... now I am back
[00:14] < mnemoc> hi esden
[00:14] < esden> I still feel the phone at my ear ...
[00:15] < esden> rxr: ping
[00:20] < jsaw> rxr: I cannot get libz.so with current config. Retrying after eliminated the current zlib files... still not.
[00:21] < rxr> pong
[00:21] < rxr> jsaw: yes I saw this on x86 - for some strange reason this work on ppc
[00:22] < esden> rxr: what do you need from me?
[00:22] < rxr> and it _is_ possible to get both out of it since this worked in the past in rock ...
[00:22] < rxr> esden: I already wrote this in the mail now - I think the spellling correction you send does make it worse ...
[00:22] < rxr> the package will not be built in the past but either in the present or better in the future ...
[00:23] < rxr> jsaw: I take a deeper look now ..
[00:23] < esden> rxr: ahh ok
[00:23] esden moving dietlibc patches from my old tree to the current
[00:25] netrunner goes to bed now ... need to normalize day/night rythm.
[00:26] < esden> netrunner: what for?
[00:26] < esden> good night netrunner
[00:27] < jsaw> rxr: I don't think, a.out is supposed to be PIC. But shared is definitely supposed to be PIC. So I still doubt, you can get both libs with it.
[00:28] < rxr> jsaw: PIC only controls the way addresses and jumps are generated ...
[00:28] < rxr> not wether you get a static or shared object ..
[00:30] < netrunner> rxr: kiss is bloating the bootdisk beyond the limit with its 568K
[00:31] < esden> we have to get the dynamic linking of dietlibc running
[00:32] < esden> then it gets hopefully smaller
[00:32] < rxr> netrunner: you use some old version ? when linked with dietlibc it should be < 100kB ...
[00:32] < rxr> netrunner: with the old DEBUG_KISS_BLA_BLUPS hack from clifford the in-system glibc linked version was used ...
[00:33] < rxr> as I wrote in my mail to the list on the RISC architecture PowerPC kiss is 96kB when linked against dietlibc - and it should be smaller on the CISC architecture x86 ...
[00:34] < netrunner> rxr: yes I remember that ... but I am quite sure that it was linked against dietlibc. and I did a clean rebuilt with 1025
[00:35] netrunner wonders if busybox is dietlibc able, would nice to include it instead of some other tools ...
[00:38] < netrunner> hm ... something
[00:40] < netrunner> is wron here. I just rebuilt kiss and in the root/bin it has 79K ... and also in 2nd_stage/bin/kiss ... but not in initrd/bin
[00:41] < netrunner> he seems to take the kiss from the host system (same md5sum)
[00:42] < netrunner> rxr: your patch is broken, he takes the kiss from $root/bin/kiss, and $root is / of host there.
[00:42] < netrunner> rxr: should be ../2nd_stage/bin/kiss as all the other binaries that are copied from there.
[00:44] < rxr> netrunner: ah - seem to forgot to finally fix it ...
[00:44] < rxr> here kiss is 77376 w/ dietlibc and 512960 w/ glibc ...
[00:44] < rxr> on x86 - for powerpc you can see the values on the list ...
[00:45] < rxr> we cannot use ../2nd_stage since we do not want to have kiss on the 2nd stage - just on the first - I'll take a look how to do this cleanly after the zlib fixing ...
[00:45] netrunner stops talking to himself and goes to bed.
[00:48] < rxr> jsaw: ah in the past we really build the libarary twice ...
[00:48] < jsaw> rxr: I googled a bit...
[00:49] < netrunner> rxr: I think on the 2nd stage it does not do that much harm ... it creates a 80MB ramdisk anyway :)
[00:49] < netrunner> rxr: all other stuff is copied from 2nd_stage. but ... tell me what you did please, since I need to adopt the pcmcia stuff to the same.
[00:49] < jsaw> rxr: .a libs with PIC "should" work on all platforms. But still these libs are not supposed to be PIC, as this comes with "a size/performance penalty"
[00:50] < jsaw> so a make libz.a after shared build will be indeed ok (which only runs ar)
[00:52] < esden> argh now I really start to need third monitor ...
[00:53] < esden> thank god netrunner gave me the matrox card ;)
[00:53] < rxr> jsaw: ok - done - currently test building ...
[00:54] < rxr> netrunner: what info do you need ?
[00:56] < Freak> random people keep msging me..
[00:56] < rxr> jsaw: Committed revision 1130.
[00:56] < rxr> jsaw: could you validate this zlib fix ?
[00:58] rxr off to bed ...
[00:58] < rxr> cu
[00:59] < esden> rxr: you could regenerate the copyright headers
[00:59] < esden> ahh ... good night rxr
[01:04] < rxr> esden: I already regenerate them from time to time - or what need to be regenerated ?
[01:06] < jsaw> rxr: zlib flist okay
[01:08] < rxr> ok me off now
[01:17] < esden> sorry ... /me was once more bit away ...
[01:17] < esden> *sigh*
[01:18] < esden> that is why I have to set up another monitor
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[04:08] < Freak> https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/look/vampirestory.txt
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[05:05] < slef> Is gcc33 known not to build?
[05:07] < esden> slef: yes
[05:07] < esden> you mean that it is marked with O ?
[05:07] < jsaw> yes and no (/me currently fixing for gcc33)
[05:07] < esden> jsaw: what are you fixing?
[05:07] < jsaw> quite a couple of packages, so they build with gcc33
[05:08] < esden> you should send the patches also upstream ...
[05:08] < jsaw> gimme a two more days.
[05:08] < slef> blah... one app I am trying to install wants gcc33 I think, but gcc33 fails on all-target-libjava
[05:09] < jsaw> what kinda app wants gcc33?
[05:09] slef looks for an older version
[05:09] < slef> jsaw: objC is semi-borken in gcc 3.2
[05:09] < jsaw> ahso
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[07:26] < rxr> re
[07:30] < jsaw> good morning
[07:31] < rxr> hi jsaw !
[07:32] < jsaw> hey ho
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[07:55] < starlord> anyone can test if pentium4 gcc bug fix is working on gcc 3.3.1? i browsed gcc bugzilla and all the p4 reports says that it's been fixed in 3.3 branch
[07:57] < jsaw> How can I test it without compiling glibc?
[08:03] < starlord> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3013&action=view
[08:03] < starlord> download it and compile with diffrent flags for example:
[08:03] < starlord> g++ -mcpu=i686 -O3 -ffast-math -fmove-all-movables -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -o whetstone_i686 whetstone.cpp
[08:03] < starlord> run and see what are the results
[08:04] < starlord> g++ -mcpu=pentium4 -O3 -ffast-math -fmove-all-movables -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops
[08:04] < starlord> run and see what are the results
[08:04] < starlord> -o whetstone_pentium4 whetstone.cpp
[08:05] < starlord> i cant test it out myself,so if anyone has extra time to test it,it would be great
[08:09] < jsaw> are you sure, this is the command to compile it? It think this should read march=pentium4, or?
[08:10] < rxr> could someone test if strippped kernel modules work correctly ?
[08:11] < starlord> hmm,isnt it almost the same,march just doesnt run in diffrent cpu but mcpu runs? well you can try march
[08:12] < jsaw> which means, the code is *really* optimized for p4, and not just reordered
[08:12] < starlord> yep
[08:12] < jsaw> jsaw@volans:~> ./whetstone_i686
[08:12] < jsaw> whetstone took: 0.78 secs for 1282 MFLOPS (w/ math lib)
[08:12] < jsaw> whetstone took: 0.15 secs for 6667 MFLOPS (w/o math lib)
[08:12] < jsaw> jsaw@volans:~> ./whetstone_p4
[08:12] < jsaw> whetstone took: 0.86 secs for 1163 MFLOPS (w/ math lib)
[08:12] < jsaw> whetstone took: 0.22 secs for 4545 MFLOPS (w/o math lib)
[08:13] < jsaw> (with march=...)
[08:13] < starlord> so guess bug is still there
[08:14] < starlord> damm,have to download cvs version and try it out when i get my pc back
[08:15] < starlord> and you where running 3.3.1?
[08:16] < jsaw> stupid me, wait... (staying up all night is no good)
[08:20] < jsaw> this is strange, the results are much worse
[08:20] < jsaw> jsaw@volans:~> ./whetstone_i686
[08:20] < jsaw> whetstone took: 1.02 secs for 980 MFLOPS (w/ math lib)
[08:20] < jsaw> whetstone took: 0.38 secs for 2632 MFLOPS (w/o math lib)
[08:20] < jsaw> jsaw@volans:~> ./whetstone_p4
[08:20] < jsaw> whetstone took: 1.00 secs for 1000 MFLOPS (w/ math lib)
[08:20] < jsaw> whetstone took: 0.37 secs for 2703 MFLOPS (w/o math lib)
[08:21] < jsaw> first one was 3.2.3
[08:21] < jsaw> btw
[08:22] < starlord> and this one is in 3.3.1?
[08:22] < jsaw> yep.
[08:24] < starlord> hmm,slower execution time but better result,blaah. when compared to each other,but much lower result when compared to 3.2.3 and 3.3.1
[08:33] < starlord> hopefully cvs version is much better
[08:34] starlord is off for smoke
[08:34] < jsaw> hmm...
[09:18] < rxr> bootdisk fixed and improved - much fun giving it a try
[09:22] < starlord> are there any plans to modify Build-Pkg to build gem files or create script to do that,does Create-Iso only do that?
[09:27] < rxr> starlord: Build-Target does this
[09:29] < starlord> ah,ok
[09:29] < starlord> hmm,doesnt it build all the packages that target has?
[09:39] < rxr> yes - and package them after the build ..
[09:41] < starlord> but i need only to build one package at a time,and maybe needed deps,have to take look at it,if i get "stripped" down versio for this
[09:48] < rxr> it is really simple to factor it out - I might also be interested in a build-one-package-and-create-gem-file modification
[09:49] < rxr> in the past we had a Create-PkgTar or so which did this ...
[09:49] < rxr> (past == pre 1.7 ..)
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[09:51] < hopelessOwl> moin
[09:52] < rxr> moin hopelessOwl
[09:53] < rxr> hopelessOwl: do you feel better today ?
[09:53] < hopelessOwl> rxr: nope. worse
[09:54] < rxr> oh - so I should immediately /ignore you ?
[09:56] < hopelessOwl> nope. if i feel worse, then i'm normally not aggressive
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[10:45] hopelessOwl np: witt - eisenherz
[10:45] < hopelessOwl> "eine welt ohne dich ist eine welt aus hass und schmerz. du bringst mich um mit deinem eisenherz" *sing*
[10:51] < hopelessOwl> *ARGH* wtf is _that_?!!!
[10:52] < hopelessOwl> !> /usr/bin/env: python: No such file or directory
[10:52] < hopelessOwl> !> Configuring Subversion
[10:52] < hopelessOwl> !> creating config.nice
[10:52] < hopelessOwl> !> configure: Apache Portable Runtime (APR) library configu ..
[10:52] < hopelessOwl> !> checking for APR... configure: error: the --with-apr par ..
[10:52] < hopelessOwl> !> build directory, or an apr-config file.
[10:52] < hopelessOwl> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg subversion
[11:13] < tcr> Does anyone happen to know a usenet-to-mail gateway?
[11:15] < hopelessOwl> someone knows a good documentation for this fscking access-programming-shit?
[11:16] < tcr> Omg
[11:16] < hopelessOwl> e.g. how to set "euro as currency" with c#...
[11:16] < hopelessOwl> and ado.net?
[11:16] hopelessOwl feels waves of sorrow from tcr 's side
[11:17] < hopelessOwl> AAAAAAAAAARGH!!! dr. klammer on my side!!! *headshot*
[11:19] < hopelessOwl> .oO(he felt down from chair...)
[11:19] < tcr> blindcoder | esden: ping
[11:19] < tcr> Why don't you look for another job?
[11:20] < hopelessOwl> tcr: because i'm in a fscking ausbildung
[11:21] < hopelessOwl> and it would not make sense when i'm canceling in the 3rd of 3 years of ausbildung
[11:23] < starlord> hopelessOwl: try this:https://www.c-sharpcorner.com/Database.asp
[11:24] < hopelessOwl> thx.
[11:26] < hopelessOwl> mnemoc: *ping* *ping* *ping*
[11:26] hopelessOwl initializing terror-ping to mnemoc
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[11:53] < rxr> the next bootdisk code commit ...
[11:54] < tcr> rxr: Could you put me on the commit list, please?
[11:58] < rxr> which mail address ?
[11:59] < tcr> tcr at freebits dot de
[12:03] < rxr> done
[12:03] < tcr> Thanks
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[12:15] < rxr> impressive
[12:16] < rxr> I got 30 virus email in the last 30 minutes or so ....
[12:16] < starlord> hah,i havent got any
[12:16] < hopelessOwl> starlord: dito
[12:16] < starlord> rxr:those are that SorbigF?
[12:17] < rxr> starlord: I think so ...
[12:17] < starlord> rxr:.pif attachments? then its SorbigF
[12:18] < rxr> or .src is that work too (at least I read on heise.de ..)
[12:19] < daja77> re
[12:20] < daja77> 653 builds total, 443 completed fine, 210 with errors.
[12:20] < daja77> *grml*
[12:20] < hopelessOwl> haeh?!!!#
[12:20] < rxr> daja77: oOo ..
[12:21] < daja77> rt build with failing xfree ...
[12:21] < rxr> 45 virus mails in the last two hours ...
[12:21] < daja77> wtf
[12:21] < rxr> ~100kB each
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[12:23] rxr just freed 21MB in ~ ...
[12:25] daja77 screaming at this shitty box
[12:26] < rxr> OMG
[12:26] < rxr> new virus ...
[12:26] < daja77> send them to some lusers
[12:28] < daja77> just read this:
[12:28] < daja77> < mahrenho> nicht schlecht - Sobig.F hat scheinbar in den letzten 24
[12:28] < daja77> Stunden genauso viele Mails verschickt, wie die besten
[12:28] < daja77> anderen Wuermer in den letzten 30 Tage
[12:28] < daja77> guess it is that one
[12:30] < starlord> hmm,this week has been quite busy on virus world,5 new virus or variants
[12:31] < daja77> time to replace windows finally
[12:32] < hopelessOwl> .oO(and begin with replacing windows, here in my company first, please)
[12:32] < daja77> hehe that's your job :P
[12:32] slef is not downloading email atm... rebuild in progress
[12:32] < daja77> you can't read mail while building, huh?
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[12:37] < rxr> good that _I_ do not need to pay for the email traffic ...
[12:40] < daja77> hehe
[12:40] < daja77> my box is flooded with scum too
[12:41] < slef> daja77: not from a box with no mail client, no
[12:45] < daja77> boss said he'll pay me a visit later that day *grml*
[12:46] < daja77> omg x bootstraping is crappy ...
[12:49] < daja77> i don't get it, why it deletes half the src before building
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[13:06] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[13:06] < daja77> hi blindy
[13:06] < hopelessOwl> hi blindcoder
[13:06] < blindcoder> hi daja77 hi owl
[13:06] < blindcoder> boy shopping is exhausting
[13:07] < daja77> you buy boys *ggg*
[13:07] < blindcoder> sure. especiarlly little ones :D
[13:07] < daja77> someone has to carry all the stuff
[13:08] < blindcoder> that's what I had Martina with me for :-)
[13:09] < daja77> hehe your slave?
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[13:09] < blindcoder> something like that :-)
[13:09] < blindcoder> my "counselor" :-)
[13:09] < daja77> troi
[13:10] daja77 notes that this is all what he combines with the word counselor
[13:10] < blindcoder> "Berater"
[13:10] < tcr> blindcoder: hi
[13:11] < blindcoder> hi tcr
[13:11] < daja77> blindcoder: i know
[13:11] < daja77> ../../../../../../config/makedepend/makedepend: warning: /usr/include/gnu/stubs
[13:11] < daja77> .h: non-portable whitespace encountered at line 7
[13:11] < tcr> blindcoder: Do I need any special nfs settings for building rock? Like no_root_squash?
[13:11] < daja77> nice
[13:11] < blindcoder> tcr: no_root_sqaush is helpful, also increasing read and write blocks to 8192
[13:12] < tcr> Ok. Still, I can't get it working however. The clients time-outs all time :-/
[13:12] < blindcoder> tcr: which nfs-utils version?
[13:13] < tcr> How do I figure that out?
[13:13] < daja77> mine -q nfs-utils?
[13:13] < tcr> 1.0.3
[13:13] < blindcoder> cat $rock-src/package/base/nfs-utils/nfs-utils.desc
[13:13] < daja77> poser!
[13:13] < blindcoder> update to 1.0.5
[13:14] < tcr> I did less /var/adm/packages/nfs-utils :P
[13:14] < blindcoder> daja77: sure. I have the longer one. (command, that is)
[13:14] < tcr> Why
[13:14] < blindcoder> tcr: bug-fixes en masse
[13:14] < tcr> Hmpf
[13:19] < daja77> do you have that non portable whitespace shit too in your xfree build logs?
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[13:27] < daja77> O_o seems like this failed due typos in Makefile, how come that i am the only one to stumble
[13:28] < slef> xfree86 built for me yesterday
[13:29] < esden> good morning everyone
[13:29] < daja77> gcc: QGreeno: No such file or directory
[13:29] < daja77> gcc: QWhiite.o: No such file or directory
[13:29] < daja77> this is so stuid
[13:29] < tcr> moin esden
[13:29] < daja77> huhu esden
[13:29] < esden> *yawn*
[13:29] < tcr> daja77: Try to rebuild it. That might be just a random error
[13:30] < daja77> this is the third rebuild ...
[13:30] < daja77> esden: *kick* wake up lazy ass!
[13:30] < daja77> :)
[13:30] < tcr> Hmm.
[13:31] daja77 escape further investigation via svn up ...
[13:31] < esden> daja77: haeeeeehhh? *fall_asleep*
[13:31] < blindcoder> hi esden
[13:32] < daja77> esden: imagine a hot blonde is waiting for you out there, so get up
[13:32] < blindcoder> daja77: he prefers long-black-haired Polish girl IIRC
[13:33] < daja77> blindcoder: really so you must have been really blind on the meeting ...
[13:33] < blindcoder> daja77: I said _prefer_ , not _takes only_
[13:33] < daja77> hmm k.
[13:33] < esden> hi blindcoder
[13:34] esden would currently _prefer_ to be in berlin ... that is all
[13:34] < blindcoder> daja77: I'd also take a hot blonde although I prefer hot brunettes
[13:34] < blindcoder> and /me needs money...
[13:34] < blindcoder> today was expensive
[13:34] < esden> blindcoder: what have you boughtL
[13:34] < esden> ?
[13:34] < blindcoder> esden: clothes and "beauty-utensils for ~300 EUR
[13:35] < esden> urgh
[13:35] < blindcoder> esden: "Zwoi Hosen, zwei paar Schuhe, ein Hamd (brauch aberl noch 2) und noch ein wenig kleinkram)
[13:35] < esden> hmm ... ok shoes are expensive
[13:35] < daja77> beauty accesoires for blindy, lol
[13:36] < esden> daja77: be nice
[13:36] < blindcoder> daja77: evil tongues say I need them
[13:36] < daja77> they are bizarre
[13:36] < esden> blindcoder: yes ... they are evil
[13:36] < blindcoder> then again, I'd like to get rid of my acne myself, too
[13:36] < daja77> esden: I am always nice ...
[13:36] < esden> daja77: yes yes
[13:36] esden making coffee
[13:36] < daja77> for me?
[13:37] < tcr> Should I use sync or async for the exported volumne?
[13:37] < esden> no ... for me ...
[13:37] < blindcoder> I used async
[13:37] < esden> daja77: ou are too far away
[13:38] < daja77> esden: i thought you were a fast driver, 2,5h and you can be here :)
[13:39] < esden> yes ... I _could_
[13:39] < blindcoder> esden: be sure to be back by friday
[13:40] < esden> blindcoder: yes ok
[13:40] < esden> by friday my parents also get back so I have to be in IN
[13:40] < blindcoder> good
[13:41] < daja77> esden: as i said, you are lazy :P
[13:43] netrunne1 waking up
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[13:43] < daja77> booting netrunner :)
[13:43] < blindcoder> hrm
[13:43] < tcr> Blah, I still get a RPC: Timed out
[13:43] blindcoder currently has a GPL-only Configuration...
[13:43] < blindcoder> it's interesting to see what is missing...
[13:44] < blindcoder> tcr: portmap running?
[13:44] < tcr> Yeah on client and server
[13:44] < daja77> blindcoder: xfree?
[13:44] < tcr> log on server says:
[13:44] < blindcoder> daja77: for example :)
[13:45] < tcr> <date> <hostname> rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 192.168.1.2:98 for /build (/build)
[13:45] < blindcoder> hmm...
[13:45] < blindcoder> sounds like a malfunctioning portmap to me
[13:45] < daja77> do you have the same version on client and server
[13:46] < blindcoder> of course
[13:46] < blindcoder> I had installed server and client from same CD\
[13:46] < daja77> blindcoder: not you
[13:46] < blindcoder> oops...
[13:46] blindcoder should read the nick before answering :) *hides*
[13:46] < daja77> :)
[13:46] < tcr> Yes
[13:47] < tcr> and I can rpcinfo -p <ip_of_server>
[13:47] < daja77> can't tell apart from that nfs is crap and gives you headaches from time to time
[13:47] < tcr> showmount -e <ip_of_server>:
[13:48] < tcr> ./build <ip_of_client>
[13:48] < daja77> which network do you use?
[13:48] < tcr> eth
[13:48] < daja77> which
[13:48] < tcr> which?
[13:48] < daja77> cables
[13:49] < blindcoder> MUAHAHA
[13:49] < tcr> 10mbit cross
[13:49] < blindcoder> curl != GPL :D
[13:49] < daja77> lol
[13:49] < blindcoder> mktemp also
[13:49] < daja77> slef is doomed
[13:49] < slef> daja77: screw you, poochie
[13:49] < slef> I just want to avoid non-free software
[13:49] < daja77> whatever
[13:49] < slef> not have pure GPL
[13:50] < daja77> sounded different yesterday
[13:50] < slef> as then even LGPL bits would be missing
[13:50] < slef> maybe if you had cement in your ears it did
[13:50] < daja77> what about bsd license
[13:50] < blindcoder> slef: yes but there are people who want that... and who look dumb-struck when I ask them which kernel they use :D
[13:50] < slef> modBSD is fine... original BSD isn't
[13:50] < slef> blindcoder: huh?
[13:50] < slef> original BSD is free software, but causes some fun :-/
[13:51] < blindcoder> slef: well, after all there ARE binary-only things in Linux kernel IIRC
[13:51] < slef> blindcoder: Are any core? I thought it was some driver firmwares
[13:52] < blindcoder> slef: I don't think any core-thingies.
[13:53] daja77 whispers nforce
[13:53] < slef> hardware manufacturers are getting slowly nastier :(
[13:53] < slef> daja77: what is an nforce?
[13:53] < blindcoder> still, the argumentation of those people is somewhat... ridiculous...
[13:53] < daja77> nvidia chipset
[13:53] < daja77> with binary only drivers for linux
[13:54] < slef> is that the nvidia_glx stuff?
[13:54] < blindcoder> well, I like the nviida-drivers
[13:54] < daja77> no this is a chipset for mainboards
[13:54] < blindcoder> they are quite easy to use and they work like a charm
[13:54] < daja77> blindcoder: nforce too?
[13:54] < slef> nvidia_glx blew up one machine I tried it on, crashed 2 others, so I just use core nv now
[13:54] < blindcoder> daja77: nvidia_kernel and nvidia_glx
[13:55] < blindcoder> slef: hmm... I have no problems with it here
[13:55] < daja77> which has nothing to do with nfoce :)
[13:55] < blindcoder> daja77: yes
[13:55] < slef> blindcoder: hope you never have to debug it.
[13:55] daja77 uses nvidia graphics cards too
[13:55] < daja77> don't tell rene about it ;-)
[13:55] < blindcoder> slef: the only problem I ever had was that it doesn't work with riva_fb. but with VESA it works which makes me just as happy
[13:56] < tcr> I'm having a riva tnt 2 and am using riva_fb
[13:56] < tcr> just atm
[13:56] < slef> ever tried the early binary fasttrack drivers?
[13:56] < blindcoder> fasttrack?
[13:56] < slef> they were fun... put the kernel into a hard lock sometimes...
[13:57] < slef> ide raid drivers
[13:57] < slef> promise released some binary ones
[13:57] < blindcoder> hrm well, early 2.5 also killed filesystems
[13:57] < daja77> slef: first they were borken but now working fine, now ati binary drivers are borken ...
[13:57] < slef> now replaced by good ones
[13:58] < blindcoder> personally I don't really care much about binary-only or not. It works and it doesn't cause major screw-ups. So I'm happy ^^
[13:59] < daja77> in the long run src always wins :)
[14:00] < tcr> everything what's proprietary is pure crap
[14:00] < blindcoder> tcr: that argumentation is screwed, sorry.
[14:00] < tcr> Nope, it's so by definition
[14:00] blindcoder now silent
[14:01] < tcr> Good boy :P
[14:01] blindcoder not leading a discussion on the bottom-most niveau possible
[14:01] < daja77> blindcoder: yeah the wise are smiling silent
[14:01] netrunner smiles
[14:01] < blindcoder> daja77: "Ein Gentleman schweigt, und geniesst. :)"
[14:01] < daja77> :)
[14:03] < tcr> if you translate niveu with level, I actually begun to talk on the topmost level possible
[14:04] blindcoder not giving the comment he has in his head now :D
[14:06] slef wonders if tcr is a dyslexic real-time clock
[14:07] < tcr> Certainly not
[14:08] < tcr> Fucking nfs... tcpdump reveals that the server doesn't any packets back to the client
[14:08] < tcr> +send
[14:09] < tcr> Hm, I already cleared hosts.deny and hosts.allow
[14:12] < netrunner> tcr: allowed your subnet in the exports file?
[14:13] < tcr> not explicitely
[14:13] blindcoder gone
[14:13] < netrunner> tcr: what does the server say? log/messages ...
[14:14] < tcr> <tcr> <date> <hostname> rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 192.168.1.2:98 for /build (/build)
[14:15] < tcr> I have "/build 192.168.1.2(options)" in my exports file
[14:16] < netrunner> tcr: that should do it ... is nfsd running? ... do you have restrictive iptables settings?
[14:17] < esden> ahh I love it that Build tools is no more taking so long...
[14:17] esden hugs virtually Clifford for speeding it up ;)
[14:17] < netrunner> damnit ... I forgot to empty the wastewater tank in the camper ... :/
[14:18] < tcr> is it normal that exportfs -ra takes quite a time?
[14:22] < tcr> netrunner: ps aux | grep nfsd gives root 332 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 13:44 [nfsd]
[14:22] < esden> ok clifford is alive ;)
[14:22] < tcr> netrunner: I haven't ever touched iptables, to went sure I did a iptables --flush already
[14:22] < esden> hi netrunner
[14:24] < esden> can somebody explain me wtf is the SVID standard?
[14:25] < tcr> Yo
[14:25] < tcr> that's the system V interface definition
[14:26] < esden> o_O so why does the dietlibc not implement the getw function? It is in the SVID standard ...
[14:27] esden kicks fefe
[14:28] < tcr> Hmpf, it can't be normal that exportfs takes >2min? It stays all time aSleep in poll()
[14:51] < rolla> re
[14:51] < daja77> re
[14:51] < daja77> puh meeting is over
[14:52] < hopelessOwl> what a pitty. hope you enjoyed it
[14:52] < daja77> sure i did
[14:52] < hopelessOwl> *vbeg*
[14:53] < daja77> they like my realtime rocklinux ;)
[14:53] < hopelessOwl> hrm
[14:53] < esden> humm ... I hope I will not get killed because I copied two functions from the Glibc to the dietlibc
[14:53] < daja77> it is somehow cool if boss says he likes my work
[14:54] < daja77> esden: die!
[14:54] < daja77> :)
[14:54] < hopelessOwl> let's exchange the boss
[14:54] < daja77> hopelessOwl: no way
[14:54] esden falling dead
[14:54] netrunner finally sells ownerless alpha
[14:54] < hopelessOwl> daja77: why not? don't like to search all the day for infos about .ARG-crap?
[14:55] daja77 neither :P
[14:56] < esden> weeee I fixed findutils ...
[14:56] daja77 gives esden a cookie
[14:57] < hopelessOwl> eh! /me wants one too
[14:57] < esden> thanks daja77 ;)
[14:57] < esden> hopelessOwl: and where is the reason for giving you a cookie?
[14:57] daja77 searching for the box from last week and gives owl a cookie from there
[14:57] < esden> daja77: *GG*
[14:58] < hopelessOwl> esden: because i will bite someone when /me 's hunger isn't "gestilled" with food
[14:58] daja77 is far enough
[14:58] < esden> daja77: /me too
[14:59] < hopelessOwl> *har* far enough != helps
[14:59] < daja77> but I was near owl on monday ...
[15:00] < hopelessOwl> oh. what a pitty. if you would have been even more near /me then i would have been able to kick ya
[15:00] daja77 stayed overnight at fake's
[15:01] < esden> daja77: at fake's??? poor boy ;)
[15:01] < daja77> hehe why
[15:01] < hopelessOwl> O_o wtst is not as far away as ingl. is
[15:01] < daja77> :)
[15:01] < esden> dunno ... perhups because fake is bizarre?
[15:02] < daja77> well i slept in a seperate room ...
[15:02] < hopelessOwl> *lol*
[15:02] < esden> argh argh argh ...
[15:02] < hopelessOwl> esden: ?
[15:02] < daja77> esden: ?
[15:02] < esden> curl is fscking around now >_<
[15:02] < daja77> curl sucks, say it with me
[15:03] < netrunner> hm ... has anybody brought my power multiplier from vienna?
[15:03] < netrunner> daja77: that is it's job
[15:04] < daja77> hmm
[15:04] tcr is __really__ confused now
[15:05] < daja77> d'oh Download is broken
[15:05] < tcr> examing tcpdump's out a bit further shows the following flow:
[15:05] < tcr> client:some_port -> server:portmapper
[15:05] < tcr> server:portmapper->client_someport
[15:05] < tcr> ...
[15:05] < tcr> client:some_port -> server:mountd
[15:05] < tcr> client:some_port -> server:mountd
[15:05] < tcr> client:some_port -> server:mountd
[15:06] < daja77> rxr: PING
[15:06] < tcr> server:mountd -> client:some_different_port
[15:06] < esden> ahh ok ... curly tryed to build also a shared library ... that is correct that it is not working ;)
[15:06] < tcr> Why the heck does the server respond to another port?
[15:07] < esden> argh argh ... once more someone is unable to write correct configure scripts???
[15:08] < tcr> Omg, lol! I'm so fucking stupid!
[15:09] < daja77> go on
[15:10] < tcr> I forgot to delete the route through the internet gateway
[15:10] < esden> ok ... in this case someone wrote the curl.conf file in a wrong way ...
[15:10] < tcr> since I'm using a cross cable
[15:11] < tcr> Who wants to kick into my ass? It's for free today
[15:11] < hopelessOwl> backup-file doesn't exist, then you should copy the blank.mdb
[15:11] daja77 raises his hand
[15:12] < tcr> go on, daja77
[15:12] < hopelessOwl> afaöagiojh.k r<edgö aiog stupid mouse!!!
[15:12] < tcr> But only 1x
[15:12] daja77 kicks tcr twice in his butt
[15:12] < daja77> I'd even pay for the second kick ;-)
[15:12] < tcr> Ouch
[15:14] < daja77> has someone tested download since the changes?
[15:14] < hopelessOwl> Finished downloading 11158 bytes in 1.754 seconds (6361.460 bytes/sec).
[15:14] < hopelessOwl> WARNING: Unkown file extension: download/x11/ghostscript/pdf_sec.ps
[15:14] < hopelessOwl> cksum-test (raw): download/x11/ghostscript/pdf_sec.ps
[15:14] < hopelessOwl> Cksum ERROR: download/x11/ghostscript/pdf_sec.ps.cksum-err (2159331958)
[15:14] < hopelessOwl> wtf?
[15:14] rxr has done Task #85 ...
[15:15] < rxr> hopelessOwl: is "wtf" the only thing you can comment ?
[15:15] < hopelessOwl> rxr: yes.
[15:15] < hopelessOwl> why should i use other comments?
[15:16] < daja77> rxr: the Download script is unable to scan for mirrors
[15:16] < daja77> oh no not this crap discussion again
[15:16] < rxr> hopelessOwl: this was a rhetoric question ...
[15:16] < daja77> hopelessOwl: you could impress us with your superior intellect ...
[15:16] < hopelessOwl> rxr: well
[15:17] < rxr> daja77: you mean after my modifications ?
[15:17] < daja77> yes
[15:17] < daja77> rev 1137
[15:17] < hopelessOwl> daja77: to impress someone with superior intellect, you should have a brain. and i'm not owning such a device
[15:17] < daja77> we know
[15:18] < daja77> I'd fix it, just not sure if download-errors should move to download as well?
[15:18] < hopelessOwl> well, why do you want me to impress you know, if you already know? might you forgot that? these are the first signs for alzheimer, my dear friend
[15:18] < rxr> daja77: what is the exact problem - here it seems to work ...
[15:19] < daja77> hopelessOwl: could you shut up please, we have to work
[15:19] < hopelessOwl> daja77: well. i have to work, too. and?
[15:19] < daja77> Downloading download/x11/mkttfontdir/mkttfontdir.tar.gz ...
[15:19] < daja77> INFO: Auto-detecting best mirror ...
[15:19] < daja77> INFO: Downloading mirror-list from www.rocklinux.net.
[15:19] < daja77> curl: (7) socket error: 111
[15:19] < daja77> scripts/Download: line 733: src/Download-Mirror-List: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[15:19] < daja77> INFO: No Mirror Found!
[15:19] < rxr> hopelessOwl: the difference seems to be we make progress on ROCK Liinux and you still search for .net stuff ....
[15:20] < hopelessOwl> rxr: well. you cannot blame me for bad documentation. and: i'm also continueing with the fscking .crap stuff - slow but i guess faster than rock development
[15:20] < rxr> daja77: maybe wrong permissions or so - just works here ...
[15:21] < rxr> I deleted all the state files and tried again ...
[15:21] rxr *lol*ing on the floor ...
[15:21] < tcr> esden: still there?
[15:22] < hopelessOwl> rxr: is it comfortable on the floor?
[15:22] < tcr> Or has anyone else done a cluster build? rxr? daja77?
[15:22] < rxr> no but that was such a good joke that felt from the chair ...
[15:22] < hopelessOwl> tcr: blindcoder
[15:22] < tcr> He's away
[15:23] < hopelessOwl> rxr: well. then enjoy it as long as you can - might the next joke will cause a broken neck or so, when you fall down from the chair
[15:23] < daja77> rxr: she'll rule the world in two days while we are still making such slow progress on rock *rofl*
[15:23] < rxr> nope - when I get too annoyed of you i'll ignore you again ...
[15:25] < tcr> must go now
[15:25] -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABA0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ninety percent of everything is crap.")
[15:25] < hopelessOwl> daja77: sure. you make progress - and already have lots of errors while building... and guess about 1 year after planned release date there will be no stable rock...
[15:25] < netrunner> daja77: the mirror list has moved to misc/ iirc ... maybe you have an outdated download script?
[15:25] < daja77> after svn up, don't think so
[15:25] < rxr> netrunner: the list is still in src ...
[15:25] < hopelessOwl> rxr: yes. like you ignored some of my patches. np. so why should i work any longer for or with rock?
[15:26] < daja77> guess the net was fscked up again
[15:26] < netrunner> daja77: well, do you have the src/DOWNLAOD-MIRROR-LIST ?
[15:27] < daja77> hopelessOwl: I am really sorry for you that you can't see progress in rock
[15:27] < esden> now I am avalable ...
[15:27] < esden> true: ?
[15:27] < daja77> *yes* mirror detection starting up again
[15:27] < rxr> mom
[15:28] < esden> uups
[15:28] < netrunner> esden: false= ?
[15:28] < esden> I hate that completion
[15:28] < daja77> hehe
[15:28] netrunner hugs esden
[15:28] < daja77> esden: ack, xchat tab comletion is better
[15:29] < daja77> the only thing that's better on xchat
[15:29] < esden> daja77: but I will not use clickibunti ...
[15:29] daja77 neither
[15:29] < esden> ok ... curl fixed now too
[15:30] < hopelessOwl> <-- off
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[15:31] < daja77> lol
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[15:35] < daja77> esden: maybe we should copy xchat tab completion and paste it in irssi ;-)
[15:35] < esden> daja77: perhups I will do that
[15:36] esden hungry
[15:37] < daja77> poor bears
[15:38] daja77 notes that daniel repo is confusing him
[15:38] < esden> hehe ;)
[15:39] < esden> it is sooo good that my name is not so common in germany ;)
[15:39] < daja77> it would be peter here ...
[15:40] < esden> that is still different to piotr
[15:40] < esden> ok ... I get a shower now and go hunting ... cu l8er
[15:40] < daja77> the sound yes
[15:41] < daja77> but pjotr == peter in german
[15:41] < daja77> have fun
[15:41] < esden> i know
[15:41] < daja77> and pierre in france ;-)
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[15:43] < daja77> hi eLgino
[15:43] < eLgino> have rocklinux a ports-tree or something else?
[15:44] < eLgino> hi
[15:44] < eLgino> darf man hier deutsch schreibn?
[15:44] < rxr> eLgino: yes - our package repositories are like ports trees
[15:44] < rxr> eLgino: LANG=le is recommended ...
[15:44] < daja77> en
[15:45] < rxr> yes s/le/en/ ;-) sorrs
[15:45] < rxr> argh sorr
[15:45] < rxr> well - i give up ... ;-)
[15:45] < daja77> lol you try dvorak now?
[15:46] < rxr> nope - me just typing on a rs6k and iBook in parallel ...
[15:46] < daja77> ic
[15:46] < rxr> which did not worked out quite well ....
[15:47] < netrunner> wonderfull. now the diagnostics utility from fujitsu tells in 5 chars what I explained to them in a full log. argl.
[15:48] < daja77> netrunner: guess you are talking too much
[15:48] < daja77> ;)
[15:48] < netrunner> daja77: that says you :)
[15:48] < daja77> yes...yes I do
[15:48] < esden> rxr: is bootdisc target using findutils?
[15:49] < rxr> oehm
[15:49] < esden> shouldn't it be also included?
[15:49] daja77 notes that esden eats quick
[15:49] < esden> no I took only a shower by now
[15:49] < rxr> esden: it is included
[15:49] < esden> rxr: when have you compiled bootdisc target the last time?
[15:49] < rxr> netrunner: write down the code - and the next time you simply send the drive with the old error return code ? ;-)
[15:50] < rxr> esden: last night
[15:50] < netrunner> rxr: If I see the same error, yes :) but now I have ibm and fujitsu blacklisted.
[15:50] < esden> o_O
[15:50] < daja77> esden: so you now smell better than your food
[15:51] < esden> rxr: did findutils build?
[15:51] daja77 hides
[15:51] < netrunner> but maybe I am only stressing the drives to much with continuously building rock :)
[15:51] < rxr> netrunner: yet IBM (now hitachi global storage ...) is also blacklisted here
[15:51] < rxr> esden: yes error count: 0
[15:51] < esden> that is impossible!!!
[15:51] < rxr> esden: why?
[15:51] < netrunner> hm ... I should make a screenshot of the error message ...
[15:52] < daja77> strange thought blacklist contains all storage manufacturers
[15:52] netrunner taking out digicam
[15:52] < esden> because findutils are broken under dietlibc ... they need getw and putw and it is not included in dietlibc
[15:52] < netrunner> daja77: that's what I fear, yes.
[15:52] < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42605 Aug 20 05:53 build/install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert/root/var/adm/logs/5-findutils.log
[15:52] < esden> hmpf
[15:52] < rxr> Error logs from install-2.0.0-rc1-x86-pentium-mmx-32-bootdisk-expert:
[15:52] < rxr> 160 builds total, 160 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[15:53] < esden> aaaaaahhhh
[15:53] < esden> it is built in stage 5
[15:53] < rxr> export ROCKCFG_DIETLIBC_findutils='0'
[15:53] < esden> hehe ... ok
[15:53] < esden> it is built with glibc
[15:53] < netrunner> what sense does it make to build the bootdisk target with optimisation?
[15:53] < daja77> cool that it is fixed anyway
[15:54] < esden> now I fixed findutils for dietlibc so it the export can be removed ... but before I send the patch I have to eat something otherwise I will drop dead
[15:54] < esden> cu l8er guys
[15:55] < daja77> cu esden
[15:55] < daja77> even of you get killed for your patch ;-)
[15:57] < netrunner> esden: come by for a pizza, and get tf your stuff!! :)
[15:57] < esden> netrunner: I do not know your address ...
[15:58] < netrunner> esden: https://waterworld.dyndns.org/wiki/index.php?page=ImPressum
[15:59] < netrunner> esden: but I have to leave here at 1700 ... maybe we'll do it tomorrow?
[15:59] < netrunner> esden: or be fast :)
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[16:14] esden back home ...
[16:14] < esden> netrunner: I will come by tomorrow ...
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[16:14] < esden> I have to remove some stuff from my car before I go to you
[16:15] < netrunner> esden: *g*
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[16:21] < daja77> esden has to remove your comptuters before coming to you ...
[16:22] < daja77> why i am thinking such stuff when esden is around ...
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[16:24] < daja77> hehehe netrunner mentioned in doc
[16:24] < rxr> freshmeat announcement for -camp (since now the ISO files are on the server ...)
[16:25] < rxr> done
[16:25] < daja77> cool
[16:25] < daja77> when should i start with rc1 *vbeg*
[16:27] < daja77> brb
[16:33] < esden> daja77: because you are bizarre
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[17:02] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[17:03] < daja77> esden: hm?
[17:04] < daja77> ah ok
[17:04] < esden> argh
[17:04] < esden> argh
[17:04] < esden> argh
[17:04] < blindcoder> daja77: did he now drive off to Berlin?
[17:04] < blindcoder> hehe :-)
[17:04] esden is getting insane
[17:04] < daja77> we see
[17:04] < daja77> blindcoder: hm?
[17:04] < blindcoder> esden: getting? you _are_
[17:05] < esden> bauetuhaonteuhaosneuthaoeuntahouentoaeuhoanstuhaountoaheutnaoehu argl
[17:05] daja77 not from berlin
[17:05] < daja77> esden: eat that cookie and shut up
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[17:05] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi again
[17:06] < daja77> :)
[17:06] < blindcoder> that's timing, my connection was terminated right now
[17:06] < esden> daja77: is that cookie a special cookie?
[17:06] < esden> if yes then I take it
[17:06] < daja77> yes it is
[17:06] esden needs something to chill a bit
[17:06] < daja77> filled with valium
[17:06] < blindcoder> esden: then go shopping
[17:06] < esden> ahh that is good daja77
[17:07] < daja77> blindcoder: your conn dropped cos of esden's screams
[17:07] < esden> blindcoder: shopping in Leibzig ;)
[17:07] < netrunner> oh, alan cox retired?
[17:07] < esden> netrunner: o_O
[17:07] < daja77> huh
[17:08] < netrunner> /.
[17:08] < blindcoder> daja77: I see...
[17:08] < blindcoder> esden: WTF is in Leipzig?
[17:08] < netrunner> blindcoder: that blonde I bet :)
[17:08] < blindcoder> everyone keeps talking about Leipzig... WTF _is_ there?
[17:08] < daja77> blindcoder: you can buy cheap drugs there
[17:09] netrunner off skating.
[17:09] < blindcoder> hrm... only that? I thought there'd be something interesting...
[17:10] < daja77> yepp nice city
[17:11] < esden> netrunner: no ... there are cheep drugs ;)
[17:11] < esden> and it is on the way to berlin ;)
[17:12] < daja77> The 2.2 tree needs a new maintainer, someone who can spend their entire
[17:12] < daja77> life refusing patches, being ignored by the mainstream (because 2.2 is
[17:12] < daja77> boring) and by vendors (who don't ship 2.2 any more).
[17:12] < esden> just like rocklinux 1.4 ;)
[17:12] < daja77> hehehe
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[17:13] blindcoder now off to his date
[17:13] < daja77> blindcoder: good luck
[17:13] < esden> good luck blindcoder
[17:13] < daja77> esden is invited to stop by at my place of he likes
[17:15] < esden> thanks daja ... I will remember that
[17:15] < daja77> :)
[17:16] < daja77> guess i'd even clean the kitchen before
[17:20] < esden> uh oh
[17:21] < daja77> it is a mess atm ...
[17:21] < esden> rxr: ping
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[17:31] < esden> hi Mike1 !
[17:31] < Mike1> hello.
[17:31] < daja77> moin Mike1
[17:31] < esden> *hug*
[17:31] < Mike1> greetings esden and daja77
[17:31] < esden> how are you?
[17:31] < Mike1> I'm ok thanks, and you?
[17:31] < esden> god bless you Mike1 sbtw ;)
[17:31] daja77 just thought how boring life is when Mike1 entered the stage ;-)
[17:31] < esden> Mike1: I am still alive ... ;)
[17:32] < Mike1> hehe good to know
[17:32] < daja77> .oO esden speaking like owl
[17:32] < Mike1> daja77: do i make your life boring ?
[17:32] < daja77> nope you ended that
[17:32] < esden> daja77: because I really could feel better ...
[17:32] < Mike1> daja77: good :)
[17:32] < Mike1> esden: if it makes you feel any better i feel sad today today
[17:32] < Mike1> today too.
[17:32] < daja77> why
[17:33] < esden> Mike1: that is not making me feel better ...
[17:33] < Mike1> that is something i will tell today, but tomorrow i will.
[17:33] < daja77> esden: dope?
[17:33] < esden> daja77: ???
[17:33] < daja77> could make you feel better, no?
[17:34] < esden> daja77: not really ...
[17:34] < Mike1> esden, daja77 look into my personal info at the devs gallery you might find an insignificant detail
[17:34] < esden> o_O
[17:34] < Mike1> daja77: he needs a woman
[17:35] < daja77> Mike1: you sort of found one ...
[17:35] < daja77> s/you/he
[17:35] < Mike1> explain..
[17:35] < esden> daja77: but she is far away!!! GRRR
[17:35] < esden> daja77: explain it to him ... I am not in the mood to talk about that
[17:35] < daja77> esden: it is not my fault
[17:35] < Mike1> esden: ?
[17:36] < esden> daja77: I know
[17:36] < daja77> Mike1: you are for PR?
[17:36] < Mike1> hey hey wtf?
[17:37] < daja77> public realations is on your task list
[17:37] < Mike1> daja77: no...
[17:37] < Mike1> see my birth date...
[17:37] daja77 so damn stupid
[17:37] < daja77> happy birthday Miguel
[17:38] < Mike1> thank you
[17:38] < Mike1> tomorrow its blindy's bday
[17:38] < daja77> may be resulted that i had no idea which date we have today
[17:38] < esden> Mike1: happy birthday !!!!
[17:38] < esden> urgh ... I have to create a cronjob reminding me of that ...
[17:39] < Mike1> daja77: do not worried, not even my mother remembered it was my bday.. this is why i feel so damn sad today
[17:39] daja77 just knew it is wednesday .oO
[17:39] < Mike1> thanks esden
[17:39] < Freak> https://www.hatley.org/photolog/archives/000378.html
[17:39] < daja77> Mike1: this is indeed sad
[17:40] < Mike1> daja77: well that again makes my hate for a lot of things stringer
[17:40] < Mike1> stronger*
[17:40] < daja77> oh don't want to enrage you
[17:41] < daja77> Freak!
[17:41] < Mike1> daja77: no worries, i am fine
[17:42] < Mike1> daja77: just today isn't anymore a good day for me
[17:42] < daja77> Mike1: be happy that you are so young
[17:42] < daja77> hm?
[17:42] < daja77> anything worse happened
[17:43] < Mike1> daja77: no just the fact that not a single person remebers that it was my bday..
[17:43] < daja77> remember is good, I didn't know before ...
[17:44] daja77 takes away the cookies from esden and gives them to Mike1
[17:44] < Mike1> lol thank you
[17:45] daja77 notes that he managed to forget his own birthday some years ago
[17:46] < Mike1> daja77: well..
[17:46] < daja77> guess i want to forget my birthday this year
[17:46] < Mike1> lets talk about something else, birthdays suck
[17:47] < daja77> ack
[17:49] < daja77> let's celebrate that you have a decent connection now ;-)
[17:49] < Mike1> hehe yeah
[17:49] Mike1 makes the dance of the joy
[17:49] < Mike1> :)
[17:49] daja77 dances with Mike1
[17:50] < Mike1> esden: join us?
[17:50] < Mike1> daja77: i think esden needs to refresh :)
[17:50] < daja77> kill -SIGHUP esden
[17:51] < Mike1> daja77: relace kill with your water pistol :)
[17:51] < daja77> hehe
[17:51] < daja77> esden suffers cos he merged glibc code into dietlibc ...
[17:52] < Mike1> esden: you did that?
[17:52] Mike1 wonders if esden lost his mind...
[17:53] < esden> sigh ...
[17:53] < esden> you are not nice
[17:53] < Mike1> esden: just kidding, but seriously why have you done such thing?
[17:53] < daja77> oh I am in the wrong mode then
[17:55] < esden> Mike1: yes I have ...
[17:55] < esden> but I have not submitted it anywhere yet
[17:57] < daja77> guess there is no chance to cheer him up today
[17:57] < esden> daja77: ack
[17:59] < Mike1> ?
[17:59] < Mike1> cheer who?
[17:59] < esden> daja77: or better ... _you_ can not cheer me up ;)
[18:00] < daja77> that is not nice ...
[18:00] < esden> daja77: you can try ;)
[18:00] < Mike1> yes daja77try to "cheer" esden up :)
[18:01] < Freak> daja77?
[18:01] < Mike1> kaerF elloH :)
[18:01] < Mike1> olleH :)
[18:01] < daja77> Freak: what's up?
[18:02] < Freak> <daja77> Freak!
[18:02] < Mike1> daja77: isn't it obvious? the sky :)
[18:02] < daja77> :P
[18:02] < daja77> Freak: just the short form of hello ;-)
[18:03] < Freak> Mike1: haha
[18:03] < Freak> daja77: mmhh..
[18:03] < Mike1> :)
[18:03] < daja77> I am so excited everytime you come in, you know, so ...
[18:04] < daja77> you are all sad cos alan cox puts down his work on kernel, that's it
[18:04] < Freak> I did not technically "come in"
[18:04] < daja77> but?
[18:06] < Mike1> daja77: alan cox what????
[18:06] < daja77> yepp read /.
[18:08] < Freak> huh
[18:09] < Mike1> daja77: link please
[18:09] < Freak> https://developers.slashdot.org/developers/03/08/20/1331205.shtml?tid=106&tid=185
[18:09] < Mike1> brb i need something to eat
[18:10] < Freak> guys, what is MBA?
[18:10] < daja77> https://kerneltrap.org/node/view/759
[18:10] < daja77> Freak: guess it is master degree
[18:10] < Freak> hum
[18:11] < Freak> hey somebody reading kerneltrap :)
[18:11] < Freak> uh wait
[18:11] < Freak> its the link on /.
[18:11] < daja77> oh just followwed /. link
[18:11] < Freak> :) I almost thought
[18:11] < daja77> hehe :)
[18:12] daja77 now driving home
[18:12] < daja77> cu
[18:13] < Freak> du
[18:13] < Freak> doh
[18:38] < Freak> I once was using some program to analyze my apache logfiles and output some html and graphics.. but I forgot the name.. anyone?
[18:39] < Freak> must have been webalizer
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[18:41] rxr shortly away
[18:42] < rxr> esden: could you post me a reference to the diet libstdc++ you said fefe might start?
[18:42] < rxr> thanks - cu
[18:42] < esden> rxr: could you put photos online
[18:42] < esden> from the dev meeting?
[18:42] < esden> rxr: I will forward you the thread ...
[18:43] < esden> there is no online archive IIRC
[18:58] uppo still has many problems with his first rock linux installation
[18:58] < uppo> I got the disk full :(
[18:59] < uppo> I would like to delete all files in /usr/src/rock-src/download that are unuseful
[19:00] < uppo> which is the best way?
[19:02] Freak is getting to like stinky cheese
[19:03] < Freak> at least this one..
[19:05] < esden> uppo: you first of all should have downloaded with -required
[19:05] < esden> or have you done it?
[19:07] < esden> the next thing would be to run ./scripts/Download -list-unknown | cut -d " " -f3 | xargs rm
[19:07] < uppo> hem, perhaps no
[19:08] < esden> but to delete files that are unneeded is not possible IIRC ... because all downloaded files may be usefull
[19:09] < uppo> Many files are listed with -list-unknown
[19:09] < uppo> example: Unknown file: download/x86/lilo/lilo-22.5.5.tar.bz2
[19:09] < uppo> I need lilo, I think...
[19:10] < uppo> my target is drock
[19:10] < esden> please do "ls download/x86/lilo/"
[19:10] < esden> you will most likely find two versions of lilo in there
[19:11] < uppo> I already erased with ./scripts/Download -list-unknown | cut -d " " -f3 | xargs rm
[19:11] < esden> ok
[19:11] < uppo> now download/x86/lilo/ is empty
[19:11] < uppo> now I have 500MB of free disk
[19:12] < uppo> du | sort -n
[19:12] < uppo> 756069 ./download
[19:12] < esden> humm ...
[19:13] < esden> then you probably updated the ROCK source without running Download afterwords
[19:13] < uppo> ah
[19:16] uppo is trying to free some space with mine -r
[19:20] < uppo> how 'Download -required' decide which sources have to be downloaded?
[19:20] < uppo> does it depend only on the target distribution?
[19:21] < uppo> for instance, I do not want rfc!
[19:22] < dennis_> uppo: look in your mirror list in ./download/
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[19:25] < uppo> am I free to delete entries in ./download/INDEX ??
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[19:32] uppo going to eat soon
[19:32] < n00kie> Enjoy :)
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[19:42] esden -> hunting ... once more
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[19:57] < christian> I have got the following problem: after a cool rock installation last night i tried to configure my x-server. i have got the x server running (and kde looks great however). but when i want so choose "run xf86config" in stones xconfiguration i get the following error: "/usr/sbin/stone : line 1: command not found" why?
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[20:22] < christian> re
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[20:30] < esden> re hi all
[20:32] < rxr> re
[20:44] < rxr> wow - this was a very successfull day ROCK Linux code committing-wise ...
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[21:08] < netrunner> re
[21:08] < esden> hmm ... it seems that I am pretty near to getting the first packet to compile with my patched gcc
[21:08] esden happy
[21:12] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[21:12] < owl> hi blindcoder
[21:12] < blindcoder> hi owl
[21:16] < esden> weeeeeeeeee binutils built in stage 2 in dietlibctarget without using diet warpper !!!!!
[21:16] < esden> *jumparound*
[21:16] < blindcoder> that's good for you esden
[21:16] < esden> yes ... it is
[21:18] < Aard> esden: ever tried to link nfs-utils against dietlibc?
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[21:18] < esden> Aard: nope
[21:18] < esden> I am happy that I got beyond stage 1 for now
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[21:20] < Aard> fuck
[21:20] < Aard> I have problems with mountd because it uses pathconf()
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[21:37] < n00kie> Austria is leading the soccer game vs. costa rica :)
[21:38] < daja77> hehehe
[21:38] < blindcoder> that will amuse clifford and piss off mike :D
[21:40] < n00kie> hehe
[21:43] < daja77> rxr: here?
[21:45] daja77 hates hw problems
[21:46] < n00kie> daja77: What happenedß
[21:50] < esden> hehe ... gcc3 compiled now too ;)
[21:51] < daja77> xsane says i/o error on my sister' computer, on mine the same model works like a charm
[21:52] < daja77> only thing i can see with strace that the read on the dev is blocked but dunno why
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[21:52] < blindcoder> wouldn't that imply an error on the mainboard? or the parallel bport on it?
[21:54] blindcoder goes dying
[21:54] < daja77> usb controller that's what i thought too, but it already had worked with rh8 ...
[21:54] < daja77> blindcoder: sleep well
[21:55] < esden> argh ... coreutils are now fscking around ... *sigh*
[21:55] < esden> fix fix
[21:56] < daja77> esden <-- huge workload
[21:57] < daja77> btw good to know that my scanner works (without any additional work)
[21:57] < esden> daja77: but I am really near to get a complete dietlibc target build
[21:57] < esden> finally after two years ;)
[21:57] < esden> or even more
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[21:57] < daja77> cool
[21:58] < daja77> btw we missed to drink together ...
[22:02] < daja77> anyway /me watching movies
[22:02] < daja77> cu
[22:04] < n00kie> wee
[22:04] < n00kie> 2:0 for Austria
[22:04] < n00kie> :)
[22:04] < esden> argh ... everyone is leaving >_<
[22:04] netrunner needs another antiallergicum ... this one makes me sleep all day long :(
[22:05] < netrunner> esden: gimme beer!
[22:05] < esden> netrunner: come here then you get beer
[22:05] < esden> I spend you one
[22:05] < netrunner> esden: you have some? *g*
[22:05] < esden> in Tri Buehne
[22:06] < netrunner> esden: ? where are you?
[22:06] < esden> I only have to go out of my door to get there ;)
[22:06] < esden> netrunner: in munich ... in studentenstadt
[22:06] < esden> hehe ... coreutils built now too
[22:07] < esden> now bison ...
[22:07] < netrunner> esden: 0,5h .
[22:07] netrunner off
[22:07] < esden> hehe ;)
[22:11] < esden> Aard: ping
[22:11] < Aard> esden: ?
[22:12] < esden> Aard: could you send me your patch to perl?
[22:12] < esden> you have it running under dietlibc IIRC
[22:15] < Aard> esden: compiles without patch.
[22:15] < Aard> only thing you need to change is the libm -- use fdlibm
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[22:16] < esden> hmm ... ok
[22:16] < esden> thanks
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[22:17] < esden> humm strange ... coreutils just like bison hang when they try to build in the doc directory
[22:19] < netrunner> esden: would you mind if I'd bring my dog? he looks at me so desperatedly
[22:23] < netrunner> grmbl ... he seems gone.
[22:24] < netrunner> something for the stats: netrunner is talking to himself again
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[22:27] < esden> netrunner: sure you can bring your dog
[22:27] < esden> humm
[22:27] < esden> now is netrunner gone ;)
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[22:30] < tcr> re all
[22:32] Freak wonders when christian will decide to stay
[22:32] christian is testing :)
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[22:37] < n00kie> wee
[22:37] < n00kie> Austria won against CR :)
[22:38] < rolla> ?
[22:38] < n00kie> soccer
[22:39] < rolla> I know that
[22:39] < rolla> I just hadn't seen anything on the match
[22:39] < rolla> england 2 crotacia 0
[22:40] < n00kie> austria 2, costa rica 2
[22:40] < n00kie> austria 2, costa rica 0
[22:40] < n00kie> eer
[22:40] < rolla> wow
[22:41] < rolla> :)
[22:41] < rolla> where is mike when you need to bug him
[22:41] < n00kie> lol
[22:42] < n00kie> I think mike isn't interessted in soccer
[22:42] < n00kie> that game
[22:42] < n00kie> where 20 people run after a dumb ball
[22:42] < n00kie> and 2 guys in the goals
[22:42] < rolla> never say such a thing
[22:42] < n00kie> which like, that the ball hits them
[22:42] < rolla> the beutiful game
[22:42] < n00kie> lol
[22:42] < n00kie> Well
[22:42] < n00kie> I don't like it :)
[22:43] < n00kie> But I have nothing against
[22:43] < rolla> :(
[22:43] < rolla> I find it one of the best games in the world
[22:43] < dennis> i think there _must_ be a game to entertain people who haven't learnd anything ;-)
[22:44] < n00kie> lol dennis
[22:44] < rolla> if you feel that way
[22:44] < dennis> rolla: just kidding
[22:45] < rolla> noone in linux seems to like fussball
[22:45] < n00kie> 'cause it's sport
[22:45] < n00kie> well
[22:45] < dennis> is there a ncurses based thingy called "soccer"? ;-)
[22:45] < n00kie> I like beach volleyball :)
[22:46] < rolla> n00kie: so it is proving that geeks don't like/do sport?
[22:46] < n00kie> Not all
[22:46] < n00kie> but most (-;
[22:47] < n00kie> I do sports
[22:47] < rolla> %-)
[22:47] < dennis> n00kie: which one?
[22:48] < n00kie> Swimming, Running, "Turmspringen", Diving
[22:48] < n00kie> sit ups ;)
[22:48] < n00kie> :)
[22:49] < dennis> cool
[22:50] < n00kie> I do it only cause I am to dick
[22:50] < n00kie> err, fat
[22:51] < dennis> hmm, the poor water at "turmspringen" ;-)
[22:51] < n00kie> :/
[22:52] < daja77> re
[22:52] < n00kie> Welcome back, daja77 :)
[22:52] < daja77> thx n00kie
[22:52] < dennis> wb daja77
[22:52] < daja77> lol n00kie arguing with rolla about soccer
[22:53] < rolla> football
[22:53] < daja77> oh thought football is sth different in america
[22:54] < rolla> That games does not exist in my world :)
[22:54] < daja77> hehe
[22:54] < tcr> rolla: I play soccers, but I don't generally like watching it in tv
[22:54] < rolla> bunch of fat babys in pads
[22:54] < rolla> rugby is better
[22:55] daja77 notes that he misses the beer flamewars with armijn
[22:55] < rolla> :)
[22:55] < rxr> esden: thanks for the mail!
[22:55] < rolla> daja77: I think you will find that I like more world sport than american sport
[22:56] < daja77> rolla: ic
[22:56] < tcr> what's world sport anyway? soccers, tennis?
[22:56] < tcr> Biking?
[22:56] < n00kie> beach volleyball
[22:56] < rolla> football rugby
[22:56] < rolla> cricket
[22:56] < daja77> anything olympic
[22:56] < daja77> lol
[22:56] < tcr> cricket, rugby?
[22:56] < rolla> daja77: nope I can't stand basketball
[22:56] < n00kie> Chess
[22:56] < tcr> rolla: that's absolutely infamous here
[22:57] < daja77> battle chess, yeah
[22:57] < rolla> what basketball?
[22:57] < tcr> I find formel1 quite cool... there's a technical aspect too ;)
[22:57] < daja77> no cricket
[22:57] < tcr> rolla: no, rugby and cricket
[22:58] < rolla> why?
[22:58] < daja77> cos nobody plays it here
[22:58] < daja77> outside the commonwealth ;-)
[22:58] < tcr> Here in germany, the order of most popular sports would be: soccers, formel1, tennis, biking (esp. tour-de-france), dtm
[22:58] < tcr> boxing
[22:58] < rolla> ach so
[22:59] < n00kie> formel 1
[22:59] < n00kie> lol
[22:59] < rolla> daja77: the whole of asia plays cricket
[22:59] < n00kie> I don't think it's a sport
[22:59] < rolla> n00kie: it is
[22:59] < tcr> n00kie: Why not, please?
[22:59] < rolla> and so is WRC
[23:00] < n00kie> well tcr
[23:00] < n00kie> I think sports
[23:00] < n00kie> Should be done "manually"
[23:00] < rolla> hmm
[23:00] < tcr> formel1 takes very much of physical energy
[23:00] < daja77> rolla: ok haven't noticed so far ...
[23:00] < rolla> daja77: ?
[23:01] < esden> how many more headers does this fscking util-linux need !!!
[23:01] < esden> *sigh*
[23:01] daja77 should have listened to the bbc sports news more carefully
[23:01] < rolla> :)
[23:01] < daja77> cool tons of updates for rock today
[23:02] < daja77> in fact i didn't listen cos there were talking about cricket ...
[23:02] < rolla> daja77: it is a good game
[23:02] < daja77> and were complaining all the time that australia is better than england
[23:02] < rolla> daja77: that does get old listening
[23:02] < rolla> to that
[23:03] < daja77> i once knew the rules ...
[23:03] < rolla> :)
[23:03] < n00kie> apropos
[23:03] < rolla> there are rules???!!??
[23:03] < n00kie> rolla: Powerstations up again?
[23:03] < daja77> hehe
[23:03] < daja77> rolla isn't from the east ;-)
[23:03] < rolla> n00kie: did not effect me
[23:03] < n00kie> mm
[23:03] < rolla> daja77: it got to the midwest as well
[23:03] < rolla> not not this far south
[23:03] < daja77> oh, mighty windoze worms
[23:04] < rolla> yes I fight those everyday
[23:04] < daja77> shutting down windoze instead of powerplants sounds sane to me
[23:04] < rolla> oh well I am off talk to you later
[23:04] < daja77> cu rolla
[23:05] < n00kie> Bye rolla
[23:05] < rolla> by
[23:11] < rxr> cool - near me a IBM PowerPC designed for AIX just booted up a ROCK LInux ... 1.3.11 ...
[23:11] < daja77> hehe
[23:14] < rxr> hm - now I could cluster a 800Mhz iBook, a 366Mhz rs6k and a 100Mhz IBM PReP (Carolina) ...
[23:16] < dennis> anyone tried to use the ati drivers for radeon 9xxx cards ?
[23:17] < rxr> 2d should work just fine ...
[23:17] < jsaw_> re
[23:17] < jsaw_> hi all
[23:17] -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw
[23:17] < daja77> hi jsaw
[23:17] < rxr> and which art dirver btw. the open-source or the ati's binary ones ...
[23:17] < rxr> hi jsaw
[23:18] < dennis> rxr: i'm using some physical tools for simulating orbitals, so it would be nice to have 3d ;-)
[23:18] < dennis> the ati binary
[23:20] < dennis> the card works just fine in 2d but 3d would be better ...for e.g. celestia
[23:25] < daja77> good that I haven't followed the ati hype
[23:26] < rxr> cool on this old page:
[23:26] < rxr> https://www.uuhome.de/df/ibm40p/linux-on-ibm-rs6000-40p-howto.html#hardware3.3
[23:26] < rxr> rock linux is the first mentioned powerpc distribution ;-)!
[23:28] < daja77> haven't seen that, only needs to be filled everywhere
[23:29] < daja77> ok section 8.2
[23:29] < rxr> not everywhere ... ,-) I got some useful information out of it ..
[23:29] < daja77> needs to be filled ;-)
[23:30] < daja77> rxr: maybe the should just link the handbook there
[23:35] < daja77> rxr: btw your fix seems to let sylpheed compile, but complains about non working gpg at runtime
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[23:38] daja77 just cleaning up for new build
[23:41] < rxr> daja77: I also already saw this - this should mostly be of cosmetic nature
[23:41] < rxr> fill a flyspray task - I'll take a look as soon as more importnat stuff is done ...
[23:41] < rxr> (or maybe someone else want to improve it ...)
[23:43] < mnemoc> how much hd do i need for a download -all?
[23:43] < daja77> omg www.rocklinux.net shows directory index via https
[23:46] < SMP> whoops
[23:47] < rxr> mnemoc: 1.7 GB ...
[23:47] < SMP> rxr: I had edited my devsd.d/alsa - I'll just close #116
[23:47] < mnemoc> thanks rxr
[23:47] < rxr> daja77: do yo mail clifford about the https issue ! ? !
[23:47] < rxr> SMP: do you got the full address ?
[23:48] < SMP> rxr: (although I'm not completely happy with the current devfsd.d/alsa ... )
[23:48] < SMP> rxr: yes, got it
[23:48] < daja77> rxr: yes
[23:53] < daja77> rxr: mail sent
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[23:59] < rxr> https://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003082001326OSCYNT
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