-!- Irrsi  Log opened Thu Aug 21 00:00:13 2003
[00:01] < rxr> ok - me off to bed - cu
[00:02]   daja77 too
[00:02] < daja77> cu
[00:02] < tcr> gn8
[00:03] < mnemoc> gn8
[00:12] < rxr> cool  - we are mentioned in the iX article about the Linux Tag
[00:12] < rxr> (I contected them to get it into it ...)
[00:12] < rxr> very short but at least: page 11 in issue 9:
[00:13] < rxr> "In die Kategorie der weniger bekannten Vertreter fällt ROCK Linux (www.rocklinux.org). Es arbeitet mit einem Packetsystem ähnlich den BSD Ports Collection und verügt ein eigenes Build-System.
[00:15] < rxr> In diesem lassen sich für eine Distribution, Compiler Sicherheitsmerkmale oder Optimierungen auswählen, und je nach Zielsystem übernimmt Rock Linux in einer Sandbox das automatische Kompilieren."
[00:15] < rxr> ;-) !!!!
[00:15] < rxr> cook - we are nearly the only Software Project mentioned in the article !
[00:18] < netrunner> *yawn*
[00:20]   esden kicking netrunner
[00:20] < esden> do not get asleep
[00:20] < netrunner> *ouch*
[00:20]   netrunner strikes back!
[00:20] < esden> *argh*
[00:20] < esden> rxr: that is cool
[00:21] < esden> hihi util-linux has been built
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[00:25] < esden> dietlibctarget is in the 5th stage !!!!! WEEEEEEEEE
[00:25] < esden> *jumparound*
[00:25]   netrunner watching esden annoyed
[00:28] < esden> o_O
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[00:35]   netrunner is threatened by esden with warm coke
[00:38] < esden> *gg*
[00:49] < Freak> lol
[00:49] < Freak> call the cops!!!
[00:49] < Freak> human rights violations!!
[00:49] < netrunner> https://www.heise.de/ct/Redaktion/cm/Thumpmobile_Zapper.html
[00:50] < Freak> ALT
[00:50] < Freak> *g
[00:50] < Freak> https://linuid.dyn.bawue.de/~freak/guckmal/bulle.jpg
[00:50] < netrunner> for esden, he didn't know it
[00:50] < Freak> uh mkay accepted
[00:51] < esden> thank you netrunner ...
[00:52] < Freak> :o)
[01:18] < netrunner> omg .. rocklinux is sooo outdated!
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[02:28] < esden> finally net-tools do also build
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[02:50] < esden> humm
[02:57] < esden> nice ... dietlibc target compiled through ... only 6 packets still fail ...
[02:57] < esden> where two are only disabled ...
[02:57] < esden> very good
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[03:48] < esden> ok ... now I have the first dietlibc iso ... it is not yet bootable and does not contain a kernel because of a strange gcc error but most packets are there now!
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[06:55] < Awacs> hi
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[07:34] < holyolli> moin
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[08:11] < starlord> good morning all
[08:13] < starlord> hmm,Emerge-Pkg doesnt work correctly?
[08:13] < starlord> i did Emerge-Pkg kdebase31 and when it got to X compile it fails because of libmng missing.
[08:13] < starlord> or does it check deps from other packages other than kdebase?
[09:07] < blindcoder> hmm
[09:07] < blindcoder> should I?
[09:07] < blindcoder> or should I not?
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[09:53] < owl> moin
[09:59] < blindcoder> moin moin
[09:59] < owl> hi blindcoder
[10:00] < owl> https://coredistro.sourceforge.net/
[10:02] < owl> concept sounds sweeeeeeeet... as nice as pure and simple LFS
[10:39] < rxr> re
[10:40] < rxr> starlord: is ues scripts/dep_db.txt - and this files shoudl already contain rerusive dependencies ...
[10:40] < blindcoder> moin rxr
[10:43] < starlord> rxr:hmm,i guess Create-DepDB recreates it? have to check it out when i get back to home
[10:43] < starlord> but it did fail,other packages failed too,but i cant remeber was it because of missing dep or something else
[10:46] < Aard> moin
[10:46] < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,262203,00.html << rofl
[10:46] < owl> hi Aard
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[10:54] < owl> rehi
[10:55] < blindcoder> wb
[10:56] < owl> thx
[10:59] < blindcoder> owl: maybe he saw "The Truth" in his dreams and couldn't stop laughing
[11:00] < owl> the truth? O_o
[11:00] < blindcoder> yes, the truth behind everything.
[11:00] < owl> omfg
[11:01] < blindcoder> The reason why that poor guy in THGTTG was separated from the rest of the world by three whole armies
[11:01] < owl> THGTTG???
[11:01] < blindcoder> The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
[11:01] < owl> O_o
[11:02] < blindcoder> yes.
[11:03] < true> https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,262206,00.html <<rofl #2
[11:11]   true afk - driving home...
[11:12] < blindcoder> from time to time symlink has better flamewars than /.
[11:13]   blindcoder --> lunch
[11:14] < owl> hoeh?
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[11:33] < owl> rehi
[11:33] < starlord> owl:what kernel you have?
[11:34] < owl> starlord: Linux ra 2.4.21 #8 Thu Aug 21 11:21:15 UTC 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
[11:34] < owl> just had some problems and fixed them now :p
[11:34] < starlord> ah,any experience's in 2.6?
[11:34] < owl> starlord: nope
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[11:36] < PBONeo> is it correct you could put questions about linux here? :)
[11:38] < owl> .oO(!!!red alert!!!)
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[11:40] < netrunner> moin
[11:41] < starlord> damm this cake tastes good
[11:41] < owl> fuck!!! it's not nice, to have different versions of one package...
[11:42] < starlord> btw.there no remove-pkg script?
[11:44] < owl> starlord: where? in rock?
[11:44] < starlord> yep
[11:44] < starlord> in rock i mean
[11:45] < netrunner> starlord: mine -r
[11:45] < starlord> ok,i thoight mine is only for .gem files
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[11:47] < daja77> moin
[11:48] < netrunner> starlord: mine -r queries the package db of the system
[11:48] < netrunner> hi daja77
[11:49] < starlord> hmm,any plans to add someof the scripted features to mine,for example emerge-pkg?
[11:50] < owl> emerge-pkg works...??? really?????ß
[11:50] < daja77> starlord there is an Emerge-Pkg script
[11:50] < starlord> yeah,but that feature to include in mine? so all the package install/remove/update could be done by one app
[11:51] < daja77> there will be a rocket called tool for that in rocklinux 2.1
[11:51] < owl> daja77: try ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg gnumeric12
[11:51] < starlord> yep,i noticed it somewhere,might be in bug tracking or somewhere
[11:52] < daja77> yepp
[11:52] < owl> at least for me it doesn't resolv the dependenies
[11:52] < daja77> owl: then file a task in flyspray or write to ml
[11:52] < owl> daja77: nope
[11:52] < starlord> owl:neither it did for me,i did Emerge-Pkg -dep kdebase31 last night and it halted on X because of missing libmng
[11:52] < daja77> huh, why
[11:53] < owl> had much of those unresolved deps
[11:53] < daja77> starlord: would you be so kind and file this in flyspray
[11:54] < starlord> daja77:i will later today,i'm at work and i got other unresolved deps when i did it,and i want to look why it did.
[11:54] < daja77> owl: how do you think bugs will be eliminated you arenot even willing to report them
[11:54] < daja77> starlord: ok
[11:54] < owl> daja77: i'm reporting them on Irc.
[11:55] < daja77> not all developers are on irc
[11:55] < owl> daja77: and wtf it builds now bash...??? i'm already having bash-2.05 on this machine...
[11:55] < daja77> lalala
[11:55] < owl> daja77: ?
[11:56] < owl> what are you "lalala"ing? please not such music on morning
[11:57] < daja77> again please report errors to the official places, so that they can be fixed faster
[11:57] < owl> hrmpf.
[11:58] < owl> *argh* is there somewhere a samba.conf in rock's /etc?
[11:58] < owl> aaaargh. i'm blind
[12:00] < rxr> daja77: what bug was owl rumouring about again?
[12:01] < daja77> problems with dep resolving with scripts/Emerge-Pkg
[12:02] < rxr> starlord: owl__ : please report any dep problem you notice to me, the list or the bug-tracking system - thanks!
[12:02] < owl> aaaargh! why does gnumeric12 need gcc2 ...???
[12:02] < starlord> rxr:hold your horses,i will
[12:02] < rxr> owl: because you still have not RTFM ...
[12:03] < owl> rxr: ??? where should it be reported?
[12:03] < rxr> owl: that it depends on gcc2? Nowhere - it is a feature.
[12:03] < rxr> starlord: xfree86 does not seem to depend on libmng - are you sure it was xfree86 ?
[12:04] < starlord> rxr:i'll check when i get back home
[12:04] < starlord> rxr:i got few other failed packages when i tryed to build kdebase
[12:05] < starlord> rxr:and cant remember was it xfree that needed libmng or something else
[12:05] < starlord> and why the script doesnt stop building if someother package failed? on me it just tryed to build next package in queue
[12:06] < owl> ack.
[12:06] < owl> here too
[12:07] < netrunner> starlord: there is a config option that says  [ ]    Abort when a package-build fails
[12:08] < netrunner> starlord: you therefore wanted it not to abort since you configured it for this behaviour.
[12:08]   netrunner -> lunch
[12:09] < starlord> hmm,thats true,i forgot to turn it on,my bad
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[12:13] < LocalHero> Hi all
[12:13] < daja77> hey LocalHero
[12:13] < LocalHero> daja77, whazzup?
[12:13] < owl> hi LocalHero
[12:13] < LocalHero> rxr, you there?
[12:14] < LocalHero> owl, hi hi :)
[12:14] < daja77> oh I just waiting to get awake ;-)
[12:14] < LocalHero> daja77, haha, oki, i have been awake for a long time. I think its a new record this summer. I got up 08:00 :)
[12:14] < daja77> wow
[12:16] < daja77> strange webmin isn't on the mirrors still
[12:17] < LocalHero> daja77, webmin? Mirror?
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[12:18] < daja77> the webmin package is not on our mirros, yes
[12:18] < daja77> not that i miss it much
[12:21] < owl> .oO(i like samba)
[12:22] < daja77> hm?
[12:23] < daja77> because of their statement against sco?
[12:23] < owl> daja77: huh? they did? O_o i didn't know
[12:23] < daja77> yepp rxr pointed me to https://linuxtoday.com/developer/2003082001326OSCYNT
[12:23] < owl> just because it allows me to connect to my windows machine here in company... to copy data and so :p
[12:24] < daja77> hehe ok
[12:25] < daja77> ok new generic build kicked, off to work
[12:25] < daja77> cu
[12:27] < owl> bye
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[12:39] < rxr> hi LocalHero
[12:39] < rxr> daja77: I do not have the tarball - and I already mailed the maintainer about this ...
[12:39] < rxr> daja77: if you find the package on the net let me know ..
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[12:41] < netrunner> rxr: well, it is on sf, no? https://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sourceforge/webadmin/webmin-1.100.tar.gz
[12:44]   blindcoder back
[12:44] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[12:45] < owl> wb blindy
[12:45] < blindcoder> thx
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[13:06] < owl> hi Nebukadnezea
[13:06] < Nebukadnezea> moin owl
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[13:19] < rxr> netrunner: jups - just that the usual mirror we used in ROCK is not alive - I now replaced all sf download tags with the umn mirror ...
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[13:22] < tcr> Hmm, cluster build failed due to a segmentation fault while building 0-binutils
[13:22] < jsaw> rxr: no, only dl.sf.net please! this will send u to one of these automatically.
[13:24] < rxr> jsaw: oh - cool I did not know that ...
[13:27] < rxr> jsaw: done
[13:33]   tcr thinks that we need a infrastructure for catching random build errors
[13:34] < rxr> tcr: what ?
[13:38] < tcr> I think everybody here suffered from random build errors at least one time
[13:38] < jsaw> rxr: btw, ftp.gnome.org does the same thing now.
[13:39] < jsaw> rxr: or at least I have never seen before, that this server is in sweden?
[13:41] < jsaw> hello everybody (sorry, when I wake up, I forget all my manners)
[13:42] < owl> hi jsaw *g*
[13:43] < jsaw> hallole
[13:46] < owl> *sigh*
[13:49] < jsaw> owl: world weariness?
[13:49] < owl> hm.. more or less
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[14:03] < uppo> how may I know the approximated installed size of a package before building?
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[14:04] < blindcoder> looking it up in the .cache file
[14:05] < jsaw> brb
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[14:08] < uppo> blindcoder: ah, thanks
[14:21] < daja77> re
[14:21] < SMP> building glibc with NPTL does _SO_ not work ...
[14:22] < LocalHero> got to go cya
[14:22] < daja77> bye LocalHero
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[14:24] < daja77> weeee x builds again at work
[14:24] < daja77> so pentium3 optimization is to blame
[14:30] < daja77> rxr: huh, package is availabe via sf, just one click on their hp
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[14:35] < jsaw> re
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[14:36] < daja77> huhu jsaw
[14:36] < jsaw> hi daja77
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[14:38] < daja77> 656 builds total, 367 completed fine, 3 with errors.
[14:38] < daja77> wooohooo
[14:40] < jsaw> 901 builds total, 845 completed fine, 56 with errors.
[14:40] < jsaw> (gcc33)
[14:40] < tcr> Hmm
[14:41] < jsaw> yeah, it'll take a while when ppl will adapt to C99 and other changes in the compiler..
[14:41] < daja77> not bad for gcc33
[14:42] < jsaw> oh, it's been about 100, then I disabled kde (fsck, they should read stroutstrup), and another 20-30, where fixes are in prep
[14:42] < daja77> ;-)
[14:43] < esden> hi all
[14:43] < daja77> huhu esden
[14:43] < blindcoder> hi esden
[14:43] < daja77> hi blindcoder
[14:43] < jsaw> daja77: well the gnome-mm guys are doing the same stupid stuff, trying to inherit classes with private ctor/dtor...
[14:44] < blindcoder> hi daja77
[14:45]   daja77 has to study the c++ evilness again ...
[14:46] < jsaw> daja77: c++ evilness ?
[14:48] < daja77> oh you like it ... sorry
[14:51] < rxr> jsaw: could you know stroustroup ;-) Congrats!
[14:51] < rxr> s/could/cool/ ...
[14:51] < jsaw> daja77: well, more or less. If I do C++, I usually only do "C with classes" programming :-]. But those errors they made are too basic in terms of C++-syntax.
[14:51] < jsaw> rxr: I have the book in my shelve. I started C++ with it.
[14:52] < daja77> jsaw: c with classes is what i wrote too, but it sucks
[14:52] < jsaw> Admitted.
[14:52] < rxr> it can be better then C stand-alone...
[14:53] < daja77> hmm maybe
[14:53] < daja77> rxr: the webmin tarball is available
[14:53] < SMP> (looking at flyspray I don't see an -rc1 anywhere near ... )
[14:53] < jsaw> Just look into gtk, how they do their OO...
[14:53] < jsaw> uuuhhh
[14:54]   daja77 now off to clt6 meeting
[14:54] < rxr> SMP: I look at https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rocknet/trunk and miss files ... ;-)
[14:54] < jsaw> rxr: I
[14:55] < SMP> rxr: that's another problem - but a smaller one
[14:55] < esden> rxr: where should I upload the most complete dietlibc target iso I had since years?
[14:55] < jsaw> rxr: I'm getting a version of rockplug ready for release, guess it'll be ready sunday.
[14:55] < rxr> jsaw: nice
[14:55] < rxr> esden: could you put it somewhere temp. so I can grab it ?
[14:55] < SMP> jsaw: last week it was horribly broken - was it fixed?
[14:56]   SMP still running some rockplug from July, 24th
[14:57] < jsaw> SMP: I can't remember, that I left a non-working system in trunk last week. This week is different - I had to work on finishing my phd and thus reduce development ...
[14:57] < esden> rxr: I have to check if I can upload it on my server ...
[14:57] < esden> rxr: I have small traffic problems there
[14:57] < esden> rxr: but I will see what I can do
[14:58] < rxr> esden: what is the size of it? Is it installable ?
[14:59] < esden> rxr: no not yet installable because I have no installdisk build yet ...
[14:59] < esden> rxr: I think I wait till I have the installdisc so one can install it ...
[15:00] < esden> the other problem is that the kernel has some problems to build on a dietlibc system
[15:00] < esden> gcc is bailing out with a very confusing error
[15:00] < esden> syntax error in assembler o_O
[15:01] < tcr> Muhaha
[15:01] < tcr> I get a kernel oops when I try to untar linux-2.4.21.tar.bz2
[15:02] < tcr> now the machine hangs
[15:02] < tcr> blubb
[15:02] < jsaw> memtest? put pc in fridge? what else...
[15:04] < SMP> by the way - do we have a working memtest again?
[15:04] < SMP> mine from two weeks ago was still broken
[15:12] < uppo> Update-System builds packages that are not installed also
[15:13] < uppo> How can I avoid this?
[15:14] < rolla> re
[15:19] < uppo> I cannot install a full drock since I do not have enogh disk space
[15:20] < uppo> so I removed some packages
[15:21] < uppo> but if I use Update-System the packages I removed get rebuilded
[15:21] < owl> vim config/default/packages << uppo
[15:23] < uppo> Is config/default/packages updated with Update-Src ?
[15:24] < owl> you did a ./scripts/Config before?
[15:24] < jsaw> uppo: I had happended twice in the last weeks, that the config files got reset due to an update of some of the config sources. Check it.
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[15:25] < uppo> owl: yes but I didn't find a section about packages
[15:25] < owl> uppo: but you choose "generic"?
[15:26] < owl> guess the ./scripts/update-system is based on the config/default/*
[15:26] < owl> then you have to edit the packages there
[15:27] < uppo> no I have target "desktop"
[15:27] < owl> the same there...
[15:27] < owl> or you can choose "expert" ... and add/remove packages there in custom packages or so
[15:29] < uppo> owl: ahh! Ok.
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[15:31] < holyolli> moin
[15:32] < owl> hi holyolli
[15:32] < holyolli> hi owl
[15:32] < rolla> re holyolli
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[15:33] < holyolli> hi rolla
[15:33] < rolla> how is flying going?
[15:34] < holyolli> rolla: not that much...i'm now back in Germany and havin' (more ore less) fun with theory ;-)
[15:35] < holyolli> but now i can finally continue my work on rock alpha, because I
[15:35] < holyolli> have now again hardware access
[15:37] < esden> holyolli: have you bought another alpha?
[15:37] < netrunner> esden: dietlibc build finished?
[15:38] < holyolli> esden: no, but my only alpha is now 6000 miles nearer ;-)
[15:38] < holyolli> esden: hi, btw.
[15:39] < esden> netrunner: yes ... but because rxr "fixed" zlib so that it also builds shared lib it broke
[15:40] < esden> I will fix it in a moment when I cleaned up my build disc a bit
[15:42] < holyolli> can anybody tell me the new svn url for updating the source?
[15:42] < esden> holyolli: that is good ...
[15:42] < esden> holyolli: I am nearly ready with getting dietlibc target working ... after that I will also continue alpha stuff
[15:42] < starlord> holyolli:svn://schillernet.dyndns.org/rock-linux/trunk
[15:42] < holyolli> esden: cool
[15:43] < holyolli> starlord: thx
[15:43] < esden> holyolli: I tryed to create a usable kernel for alpha with network _keyboard_, scsi and ide support
[15:43] < esden> and I am not fully ready with it
[15:43] < holyolli> esden: which kernelverion?
[15:43] < esden> holyolli: 2.4.21
[15:44]   holyolli just tried to compile it, but couldn't test that
[15:44] < holyolli> esden: can you tell me when it's working?
[15:44] < esden> holyolli: sure
[16:14] < esden> what is the correct check if a string is contained in a variable under bash?
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[16:34] < esden> rxr: ping
[16:35]   netrunner stops fighting the dirt in the bathroom and turns to the kitchen
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[16:36] < netrunner> .o( my gf shall find a clean workplace when she comes home )
[16:45] < esden> hehe
[16:47] < netrunner> *beg* my brother just came in and I asked him to help ... suddenly he remembered an urgent appointment and left in a hurry
[16:47] < blindcoder> esden: if [ $x == `echo $x | sed 's,$y,,g'` ] ; then stfu(); fi
[16:47] < blindcoder> esden: that's it :-)
[16:49] < blindcoder> women... werld a better place... shoot them all...
[16:49]   blindcoder --> back to laundry
[16:50] < starlord> hmm,where do i find default kernel config for rock?
[16:50] < starlord> from /usr/src/rock-src/
[16:51] < jsaw> esden: another possibilty I could think of is [ "$x" != "${x%$y}" ]
[16:51] < starlord> i only see architecture/x86/kernel.conf.sh so this one creates it?
[16:54] < jsaw> esden: correction, should read ${x//$y/}
[16:56] < esden> jsaw: sounds good
[16:56] < esden> thanks blindcoder, jsaw
[16:56] < starlord> anyone can help me with the kernel.conf?
[16:57] < starlord> err,tell me the location of default config that is
[16:57] < esden> starlord: architecture/x86 ist the place you should search
[16:57] < esden> it is bit more complicated because the config is being generated
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[16:58] < starlord> i know,kernel.conf.sh seems to include other confs but i dont see them
[16:59] < uppo> ehm, I did something wrong...
[16:59] < uppo> mine -l | grep ^xemacs
[16:59] < uppo> gives an empty output
[17:04] < esden> starlord: architecture/share/
[17:04] < esden> sigh ... glibc needs so long to build >_<
[17:05] < esden> now it is creating locale ... now I understand why fefe is not willing to include that crap in dietlibc!
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[17:12] < starlord> hmm,something is really wrong,where should $base point to?
[17:13] < esden> starlord: IIRC to the ROCK sources toplevel directory
[17:14] < starlord> hmm,any scripts that checks if needed env variables are set? $base isnt setted in my install
[17:16] < esden> I do not think that there is anywhere such test ...
[17:18] < esden> argh ... glibc is still building locale!!!! AAAARGH
[17:22] < blindcoder> men and woman should not live under the same roof
[17:22] < blindcoder> Onegai Twins as an anime that proofs this once again
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[17:41] < rxr> esden: pong
[17:43] < rxr> starlord: $base is not set in edn-users shells - it is set inside the build scripts ....... during an automated build ...
[17:43]   rxr shorly away ...
[17:46] < esden> hmm ...
[17:46] < esden> I needed something from you ...
[17:46] < esden> but I can not remember anymore
[17:46] < esden> have you put the images up?
[17:48] < esden> rxr: how can I in a sane way manipulate kernel config from a target?
[17:49] < esden> I do not want to provide a full config like bootdisc target does
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[17:49] < esden> I only want to disable/anable some particular things
[17:49] < esden> s/anable/enable/
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[17:56] < rxr> esden: the bootdisk target does not provide a full config
[17:56] < rxr> esden: another example is the desktop target ...
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[17:56]   rxr away ...
[17:59] < esden> rxr: ok I will check that
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[18:07] < starlord> damm,kernel 2.6 doesnt compile
[18:09] < esden> it does here
[18:10] < starlord> mine halts on acpi compile
[18:14] < starlord> crap,and Emerge-Pkg doesnt halt on broken package build event that i enabled it Config
[18:18] < starlord> esden:is it stable?
[18:19] < n00kie> It compiled on my machine too
[18:20] < esden> starlord: it is 2.6.0-test2 ... so it is going to be stable in near future
[18:20] < starlord> hmm,i'm getting undefined recerences to eisa_set_level_irq and ahc_linux_pci_exit
[18:20] < starlord> happen to know which module uses those,so i can disable them? :)
[18:24] < esden> starlord: try to update to 2.6.0-test3 perhups then the error will go away
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[18:46] < netrunner> esden: cannot be fault of the kernel, since it compiles here and at yours.
[18:47] < Mike1> moin all
[18:47] < Mike1> PING blindcoder
[18:47] < starlord> just got it to work
[18:47] < starlord> kernel that is
[18:48] < starlord> atleast image builded,hopefully modules will too
[18:50] < starlord> plaah,isdn module fails,but i dont need it anyway
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[18:59] < rxr> starlord: I'm curious: are you currently converting an self-grown dist to ROCK or similar?
[19:00] < netrunner> hm ... eine 32bit pc-card mit 100MBit ohne dongle fuer 29EUR, klingt guenstig, oder?
[19:01] < rxr> netrunner: I do not buy such devices that often ...
[19:01] < netrunner> urgs, sorry, wrong lang or chan ;) for the curious: I found a 32bit pc card with 100MBit without dongle that costs only 30EUR
[19:02] < netrunner> rxr: well, I already have 2 cards with broken dongle here, so I am looking around for a dongle-free version :)
[19:05] < starlord> rxr:no,i installed base system from rock-beta6 minimal cd and started to install from there
[19:09] < esden> hmm ... the the data that should go on initrd are too big and/or the initrd image is too small ...
[19:10] < esden> or I have done something wrong ...
[19:10] < esden> what is also possible
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[19:10] < esden> boah ... 9 bootdiscs created ...
[19:10] < esden> that is big!
[19:11] < esden> I increased the size of initrd for now ... I hope it will be bootable
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[19:13] < netrunner> esden: what is your problem with bootdisk?
[19:13] < esden> netrunner: the problem was that when creating the initrd image it failed with "no space left on device" error
[19:13] < esden> now I increased the size of initrd and it works ...
[19:13] < netrunner> esden: as of 1140 everything was fixed and fits.
[19:14] < esden> netrunner: aaaahhhh ok
[19:14] < netrunner> esden: that was probably the version where kiss was copied from the host-root
[19:14] < netrunner> that had 600K and squashed the initrd :)
[19:15] < esden> I disabled kiss ...
[19:15] < netrunner> btw, the bootdisks don't work anyway. I maybe have time tonight for fixing that.
[19:15] < esden> netrunner: *sigh*
[19:15] < esden> netrunner: do it NOW ;-)
[19:15]   netrunner looking around ... lots of things to move out of sight before now.
[19:15] < netrunner> esden: oh, you cannot boot from cd?
[19:15] < esden> I want to release the first dietlibc iso today!
[19:16] < esden> that is bootable and installable
[19:16] < netrunner> esden: the cd is bootable, only the disk images do not work.
[19:16] < esden> ahh ok
[19:16] < esden> that is a difference
[19:16] < netrunner> esden: want a patch for pcmcia-support? :)
[19:16] < esden> I do not need discs ;)
[19:16] < netrunner> oh, sorry, I was not clear. floppy does not work, compact disc does :)
[19:18] < esden> hmm ... fscking kernel config!!!
[19:18] < esden> I do not want that crappy ZLIB_INFLATE stuff!!!
[19:18] < esden> what crap does depend on it?
[19:18] < esden> besides the iso compression
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[19:23] < netrunner> hm? scripts/CreateDiff creates -p0 patches?
[19:25] < esden> netrunner: not really ... it should create -p1 patches
[19:28] < netrunner> esden: this one just applied with -p0 only.
[19:28] < netrunner> esden: I'll send it to the list anyway. what were the tags I have to write there? applied,built,tested?
[19:29] < esden> compiled installed tested  checked flist  checked dep list
[19:29] < esden> applied is also nice
[19:30] < netrunner> esden: applied is more or less a joke :)
[19:30] < esden> ohh ... really? ;)
[19:30] < netrunner> but this one really only applies with -p0 ... but I created it with scripts/Create-Diff
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[19:31] < netrunner> urgs, what came over me ... I didnt..
[19:31] < esden> tztztz
[19:31] < netrunner> I am totally subversioned, I used svn diff ... without ever having heard of this command before :/
[19:31] < esden> hehehe
[19:31] < esden> netrunner: you are bizarre
[19:32] < netrunner> esden: that comes from cleaning the appartment for the whole day. my hands look like a womans
[19:32]   netrunner shrugs
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[19:35] < esden> netrunner: pooor boy ;)
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[19:37] < esden> AAARGH give me something to kill!!!
[19:37] < esden> I hate that!
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[19:46]   netrunner feels so inactive :(
[19:50] < esden> netrunner: interactive with what? Who?
[19:51] < netrunner> esden: I still have to clean up my room by tonight, but I lost all my energy. And it didn't even come back by eating 200g white chocolate :(
[19:56] < netrunner> where's the difference between _exit() and exit()?
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[20:01] < owl> moin
[20:03] < netrunner> muahaha "Microsoft Worms Crash Ohio Nuke Plant, MD Trains"
[20:04] < SMP> netrunner: see the _exit manpage
[20:05]   netrunner feels slammed with the rtfm-fist
[20:20] < owl> poor netrunner
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[20:24] < owl> O_o rxr is mutating?
[20:26] < esden> owl: no that was only resource sharing ;)
[20:31] < owl> esden: resource sharing? what resources?
[20:31]   netrunner headbanging his table ...
[20:32] < esden> ROFL
[20:32] < owl> netrunner: ??? could it be, that you're in strange mood?
[20:33]   netrunner continues headbanging the table...
[20:33] < owl> hilfeee!!! ich werd' erwuergt!
[20:38] < netrunner> hm ... without light the chaos here is almost invisible ... as long as you don't try to walk from a to b
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[20:38] < owl> thought you cleaned up?
[20:38] < netrunner> not yet. just kitchen and  bathroom. but that alone already took the day.
[20:39] < netrunner> every once in a year ...
[20:42] < owl> O_o
[20:42]   owl doesn't really want to know how many "bewohner" you have in your room...
[20:45] < owl> wtf?!!!!!!!!! i want to Emerge-Pkg -dep a gcc2, gcc3, libc23....... ????????
[20:45]   owl doesn't understand the concept of this strange emerge and/or world anymore
[20:46] < esden> netrunner: you are a conehead ;)
[20:48] < netrunner> owl: I dont know either since I realized the floor starts running away when I chase it with a damp cloth
[20:50] < esden> netrunner: what is the name of that stuff and where can it be bought?
[20:51] < esden> I think I go hunting ...
[20:51] < esden> cu l8er
[20:51] < netrunner> cu esden
[20:52] < owl> netrunner: kammerjaeger... :p
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[21:38]   esden cooking noodles
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[22:02]   netrunner back from that magic room where it rains inside.
[22:09] < rxr> netrunner: ?
[22:10] < netrunner> rxr: shower *g*
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[22:13] < esden> netrunner: very magic room ...
[22:13] < esden> *lol*
[22:13]   esden watching a box with changing colors inside ;)
[22:15] < esden> fsck I need perl to compile the kernel
[22:15] < esden> that really sux
[22:16] < esden> such a dependancy is a no do in a kernel
[22:16] < esden> *GRR*
[22:16] < rxr> the announce of -camp on freshmeat increased the traffic by 8GB per day ...
[22:16] < esden> yes I know there was a long discussion about that on the kernel mailinglist
[22:16] < esden> rxr: sounds good ;)
[22:18] < rxr> from 5 to 13 GB/day ...
[22:18] < rxr> oh even 15.33 today ... (so far)
[22:23] < rxr> netrunner: thanks for the patch - I'll merge this soon
[22:23] < netrunner> esden: perl for the kernel?
[22:23] < rxr> btw: what should we do with teh minimal+xfree thing? Apply even when we do not want to have a target per special package selection?
[22:24] < rxr> or apply in 2.0 and do it cleaner in 2.1 ?
[22:24] < netrunner> rxr: hope you like it, I am not the best with c ;)
[22:24] < esden> netrunner: yes
[22:24] < netrunner> rxr: the latter sounds better to me. could impress visitors :)
[22:25] < esden> make[2]: Entering directory `/R.src/linux-2.4.21/drivers/scsi'
[22:25] < esden> ln -sf sim710.scr fake7.c
[22:25] < esden> kcc-3 -E -D__KERNEL__ -I/R.src/linux-2.4.21/include -traditional -DCHIP=710 fake7.c | grep -v '^#' | perl -s script_asm.pl -ncr710
[22:25] < esden> /bin/sh: line 1: perl: command not found
[22:25] < esden> make[2]: *** [sim710_d.h] Error 127
[22:25] < netrunner> esden: I really like perl, but for the kernel ...
[22:26] < rxr> esden: maybe it is the time to fix perl for dietlibc ...
[22:29] < esden> yes ... I already added perl to dietlibc target
[22:29] < esden> but I still need fdlibm to get perl running
[22:29] < esden> you know what I love french films!
[22:29] < esden> ok ... enough of watching tv
[22:29] < esden> I try to get fdlibm running in rocklinux
[22:49] < mnemoc> anybody familiar with mod_perl?
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[23:04] < rxr> hi javisiu
[23:08]   Mike1 is back
[23:08] < Mike1> re all.
[23:12] < rxr> hi Mike1 - how are you ?
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[23:15] < Mike1> rxr: i'm doing great and you ?
[23:18]   Mike1 having lunch
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[23:19] < rxr> Mike1: I'm about to quite my pace job ...
[23:19] < rxr> and so I feel much better now ...
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[23:27] < christian> rööö :)
[23:27] < rxr> hi christian
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[23:45] < tcr> Pah, 3 kernel oops on one day, so either 2.4.21 is absolutely buggy or (more likely) my RAM is partially defect
[23:58] < rxr> 2.4.21 works just great here ...
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Fri Aug 22 00:00:17 2003