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--- Log opened Mon Jul 07 00:00:31 2003 --- Day changed Mon Jul 07 2003 00:02 < daja77> *lol* 00:03 < daja77> esden: btw have you seen yesterday's uf static? 00:04 < Freak> ah everybody's been telling me how great uf was yesterday.. 00:04 < Freak> I haven't yet looked at it. 00:05 < daja77> well in america it is today's 00:05 < daja77> then do so: https://www.userfriendly.org/static/ 00:05 < daja77> :) 00:06 < Freak> hehehe 00:06 < Freak> he doesnt look like linus a lot tho ;) 00:06 -!- kasc [~kasc@p5090A23A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:07 < daja77> *gg* yes 00:07 < esden> daja77: nope ... 00:08 < daja77> then I don't have to tell what to do ... 00:08 < daja77> tell you even 00:09 < esden> loool 00:09 < esden> the strip is cool 00:10 < daja77> yesterday's is nice too 00:11 * jsaw likes ex-box 00:11 * daja77 too 00:12 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909B0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:19 < esden> "tolstoy schwere kost" <- full ack ... it is very hard stuff ;-) 00:22 -!- |roberto| [xchat@237.Red-80-35-127.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:22 < |roberto|> hi there 00:22 < esden> hi |roberto| 00:33 < jsaw> gotta take a nap, cu l8r 00:33 < esden> n8 jsaw 00:36 < dreamind> Hi esden 00:40 < esden> hi dreamind 00:59 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 01:05 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157026001.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:56 -!- |roberto| [xchat@237.Red-80-35-127.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ("Terminando cliente") 02:30 -!- holyolli [~blah@66-108-242-143.nyc.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 02:30 < holyolli> moin 02:46 < esden> moin 02:46 -!- holyolli [~blah@66-108-242-143.nyc.rr.com] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:46 < esden> humm 03:17 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030331]") 03:56 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("I like core dumps") 06:20 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:20 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 06:21 < rolla> re 06:21 < mnemoc> hi rolla 06:23 < rolla> how is it going 06:25 < rolla> ttyl 06:27 < mnemoc> fine... building stage 9 (first time in life) and doing a report for univ. 06:27 < mnemoc> and you? 07:03 < blindcoder> moin 07:05 < mnemoc> moin blindcoder 07:49 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:49 < Pyro> moin all. 07:49 < blindcoder> moin Pyro 07:50 < Pyro> hi Blindy 07:50 < Pyro> blindcoder: How are you doing today my friend? 07:50 < Pyro> hope you had a nice weekend 07:52 < blindcoder> ah well... 07:53 < blindcoder> could have been worse... could have been better 07:53 * Pyro staring at his current generic build 07:53 < Pyro> geez this builds reallt take long 07:53 < Pyro> blindcoder: that doesn't really sound too optimistic 08:04 < Pyro> ok bed calls, n8 all 08:04 -!- Pyro [mike@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 08:55 < daja77> moin 10:07 < netrunne1> moin, 2 10:08 < daja77> moin netrunne 10:08 < daja77> :) 10:09 < blindcoder> hmm 10:10 < blindcoder> is it somehow possible to interfere with the build process of a package from within another package? 10:10 < mnemoc> parse-config 10:12 < blindcoder> parse-config? 10:13 < mnemoc> after pkg's .conf is loaded, all parse-config files are procesed 10:14 < blindcoder> so I'd have to create a package/blindcoder/lpp/parse-config file 10:14 < mnemoc> yep 10:14 < blindcoder> and then check if we build a linux24* package, then if lpp is meant to be built and then do my changes? 10:15 < mnemoc> you are quick ;) 10:15 < blindcoder> hm... sound like much overhead, since I only want to change these three packages out of 785 10:15 < mnemoc> take a look a package/mnemoc/vserver/parse-config 10:15 < blindcoder> hmm.. will do 10:16 < blindcoder> hmm... guess I have no other choice then... 10:16 < mnemoc> vquota's pars-econfig is nicer 10:17 < mnemoc> rock is designed to be that way 10:18 < mnemoc> . package/*/*/parse-config 10:18 < mnemoc> same to postsysfiles 10:18 < mnemoc> and pkgcheck, etc. 10:18 < blindcoder> I just wondered, because cchamilt sent me the lpp with pkg_linux24{-src,-header}.conf files 10:18 < blindcoder> so I thought those were included by the linux24* packages 10:19 < mnemoc> you can do that from target's dir 10:19 < blindcoder> mhm, yeah. found that. 10:19 < mnemoc> loaded instead of $pkg/$pkg.conf 10:20 < mnemoc> parse-config is better, but more expensive 10:20 < blindcoder> but since lpp is not target-specific I will use he parse-config solution. thanks :-) 10:20 < mnemoc> :-) 10:58 < blindcoder> strange 10:58 < blindcoder> my parse-config doesn't get included... 11:00 < blindcoder> or are they only included in stages 3+ or something like that? 11:26 < rxr> re 11:28 < blindcoder> hi rxr 11:29 < rxr> hi blindcoder 11:30 < esden> good morning everyone 11:30 < blindcoder> rxr: are the packages' parse-config files only included in chroot aor something like that? 11:30 < blindcoder> esden: moin 11:31 < esden> blindcoder: they are being included in every stage 11:31 < blindcoder> hm... that's bad... 11:31 < blindcoder> because package/blindcoder/lpp/parse-config definately oesn't get included in 0-linux24-header 11:32 < esden> you can if[ "$stagelevel" -ge 2 ] ; then .... 11:32 < esden> blindcoder: it is being included for sure 11:32 < esden> should be at least 11:32 < esden> why do you think that it is no being done? 11:32 < blindcoder> well, I have a echo_status "MEEPMEEP" as first line in it... 11:32 < blindcoder> and there is no MEEPMEEP in the log file 11:33 < blindcoder> and there is also no trace of the other commands in it being executed 11:33 < esden> try doing normal echo instead 11:34 < esden> blindcoder: I am modifying lots of packages with package/base/dietlibc/parse-config 11:34 < esden> and it is working ... 11:34 < blindcoder> also in stage 0? 11:35 < esden> check if you find your parse config in ... build/<your config>/tools.cross/lib/parse-config 11:36 < blindcoder> yes, it's there 11:36 < esden> hmm ... 11:38 < blindcoder> hhmm... 11:38 < blindcoder> looks like it is included... 11:38 < blindcoder> but it das no effect 11:38 < blindcoder> == 11:38:00 =[0]=> Building base/linux24-header [2.4.21 2.0.0-rc1]. 11:38 < blindcoder> This is lpp parse-config 11:38 < blindcoder> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 11:40 < esden> == 11:37:01 =[0]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 2.0.0-beta4]. 11:40 < esden> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 1.21% cache hits so far in ccache.cross. 11:40 < esden> not building diet ... 11:40 < esden> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 11:40 < esden> -> Preparing build in src.dietlibc.1057570620.2013.3651552483 11:40 < blindcoder> shouldn't parse-config be read AFTER the .conf 11:40 < esden> the "not building diet ..." is in parse-config in dietlibc package 11:40 < esden> ahh ... ok 11:40 < esden> hmm ... then you do something else wrong ;-) 11:40 < esden> what have you tryed to do? 11:41 < esden> paste it please 11:41 < blindcoder> I want to alter linux24 from within another package (lpp) 11:42 < esden> and where is there a problem? 11:42 < blindcoder> ie: add a few patches 11:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:42 < esden> what do you do exactly? 11:42 < blindcoder> problem: it doesn't work 11:42 < jsaw> re 11:42 < blindcoder> esden: query 11:44 < daja77> re 11:46 < esden> re jsaw 11:46 < esden> hi daja77 11:46 < daja77> hi esden, jsaw 11:48 < daja77> I can't finish my build >_< 11:51 < esden> daja77: why? 11:52 < daja77> cos I did a svn up to get the rockplug patch 11:52 < rxr> hi jsaw 11:52 < daja77> there was an update to 2.5 + xchat + icewm 11:53 < daja77> for some strange reason the script says missing packages, but I can't build them 11:53 < rxr> cu later 11:53 < daja77> cu rxr , hehe 11:55 * daja77 hates the linux25 packages 12:03 * blindcoder hates bugs in the linux24* packages 12:10 < blindcoder> ok, I think I got it now 12:23 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 12:26 < daja77> hi ringo78 12:27 < jsaw> hi esden, daja77, rxr 12:27 < daja77> *gg* 12:28 < jsaw> ;-) 12:35 < esden> re hi all 12:39 * daja77 off again 12:39 < daja77> cu 12:41 < esden> blindcoder: how is lpp doing? 13:04 < netrunne1> *yawn* 13:04 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 13:05 < esden> morning netrunner 13:05 < netrunner> esden: morning? I've been to the uni, karlsfeld, schwabing already! 13:05 < esden> netrunner: am I blind or you are not in BS 13:06 < netrunner> esden: oh, you are in bs? tell me the redline! 13:06 < esden> what were you doing there? 13:06 < esden> netrunner: IO 13:06 < netrunner> esden: giving stuff by gf had borrowed from some girl back. 13:06 < netrunner> s/by/my/ 13:07 < netrunner> esden: so not that interesting? 13:07 < esden> aha ... so you are doing slave work ... right? ;-) 13:07 < esden> netrunner: so 50/50 13:07 < netrunner> esden: It was almost on my way to karlsfeld. 13:08 < esden> netrunner: how comes? 13:11 * -> esden hungry 13:11 < daja77> what a fscked up build, d'oh 13:11 < esden> o_O 13:13 < daja77> my rev 671 based rt build >_< 13:14 < daja77> rock-src didn't build wtf 13:14 < daja77> and sysfiles and other stuff one needs badly 13:14 * blindcoder back 13:15 < daja77> errlist is as long as on my early 1.7 builds in march 13:24 < jsaw> oh oh 13:24 < daja77> 846 builds total, 478 completed fine, 368 with errors. 13:26 < netrunner> daja77: you seem to have a minor problem there ;) 13:26 < daja77> hehehe 13:27 * daja77 off for lecture 13:27 < jsaw> *minor* 13:30 < esden> ok ... I go hunting food and uwe ;-) 13:30 < esden> cu l8er 14:03 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Freak, blindcoder 14:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blindcoder 14:05 -!- Freak [freak@p508B328F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:08 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has quit () 14:12 -!- SMP__ [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:12 -!- SMP [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:21 -!- SMP__ is now known as SMP 14:53 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABBAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:54 < tcr> moin all 14:54 < blindcoder> moin tcr 14:55 < tcr> Are there adapters for usb to serial interface? 14:56 < blindcoder> I only know USB2PS2 14:57 < tcr> nope, that box doesn't even have ps2 :/ 14:58 < blindcoder> then there are PS2-2-serial adapters ^^ 14:58 < blindcoder> but directly USB2Serial... I doubt that 14:58 < tcr> I actually wanted to make a router out of it, but as I've a USB modem.. 14:59 < tcr> and of course the box _must_ lack on usb interface 14:59 < blindcoder> what about an USB-Controller? 15:00 < tcr> Hmm, pci Steckplätze(?) are occupied, but there must one or two of AGP be free 15:00 < jsaw> p2302 or similiar e.g. (USB->serial) 15:00 < tcr> pci slots 15:00 < tcr> Silly me %) 15:01 * blindcoder going home. baba 15:01 < tcr> jsaw: p2302? What's that? 15:01 < tcr> cu blindcoder 15:01 < jsaw> cu blindcoder 15:01 < jsaw> tcr: wait...checking 15:02 < tcr> ok 15:04 < jsaw> it pl2303, see /usr/src/linux/driver/usb/serial. Check /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/usb-serial.txt for supported USB2Serial converters. 15:05 < jsaw> The pl2303 I have supports up to 230kbaud and works flawlessly. 15:06 < tcr> 230kbaud sounds slow, isn't it? 15:08 < jsaw> normal serial has max. 115200baud. 15:09 < tcr> Huh 15:16 < tcr> jsaw: Say, how many bits does a baud mean in this context? 15:16 < tcr> just one? or even a nibble? 15:19 < tcr> I'm not sure if it'd be a kinda bottleneck. After all that modem is a dsl modem. 15:23 < jsaw> that 15:23 < jsaw> that's definitely a bottleneck. 15:23 < jsaw> baud is roughly bit, depending on setup (8-N-1 etc) 15:24 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p5080188F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:24 < jsaw> take a USB->Ethernet. 15:24 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801B9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: blindcod1r!blindcoder@p5080188F.dip.t-dialin.net))) 15:24 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 15:26 < tcr> jsaw: Ah, yeah that'd be doable. Didn't know that something like that exist; do you know a online shop for those things? 15:26 < Mike1> hi jsaw 15:26 < Mike1> moin all 15:26 < tcr> moin Mike1 15:26 < jsaw> hi Mike1. thanks for your kind reply. 15:27 < Mike1> jsaw: i'm really sorry for my over reaction, please don't let my foolish attitudes stop you from helping us around, it is good to have your help. 15:29 < jsaw> Mike1: no, come on. 15:30 < Mike1> jsaw: its true, thx for helping around, i hope to see many more patches from you in a near future :) 15:30 < jsaw> ;-) 15:31 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit ("Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5") 15:32 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:32 < tcr> Aard: ping 15:33 < Aard> tcr: *patsch* :) 15:33 < jsaw> tcr: just to get it right: the box has no usb and no more free pci slot and the modem is a usb modem? 15:34 < Mike1> Aardvark :) 15:35 < tcr> jsaw: Well, an ethernet card is inside 15:35 < tcr> Aard: I won't be able to come to LinuxTag: my grandmother will celebrate birthday on that day... 15:36 < jsaw> tcr: then you have a problem. There are USB(hub)->Ethernet/Serial(device) converters, but not the other way round. 15:36 < Aard> tcr: celebrate with her on LinuxTag :) 15:37 < jsaw> tcr: if you know enough electronics, you can build one... 15:37 < tcr> Haha 15:37 < jsaw> tcr: shall I send you the datasheets? (hehe) 15:38 < tcr> What do you mean with USB->Ethernet converter? 15:40 < Mike1> jsaw: i will include gtkhtml3 and libsoup20 to gnome2 15:40 < Mike1> jsaw: evolution will stay in my repos though. 15:41 < jsaw> Mike1: I was wondering about the gnome2 repo. Do we follow GEP10 or 11 (I think it was called GEP, not sure anymore). Then, why is e.g. sawfish inside? 15:43 < Mike1> jsaw: i think we aren't _yet_ 15:44 < Mike1> jsaw: rxr have been looking after the gnome repositories since they exist, and he has allowed to look after them only since a couple of weeks 15:45 < Mike1> jsaw: i'm currently in the process of getting gnome* debuged and properly working 15:45 < Mike1> jsaw: this will lead me to updating and possibly (re) moving a package or 2 15:46 < jsaw> Mike1: you have to especially look for the build order. rep-gtk for example is build in the wrong order. 15:47 < Mike1> jsaw: i know, already fixed :) 15:47 < Mike1> see my patch in a few minutes :) 15:49 < jsaw> Mike1: did you also check mergeant? 15:50 < Mike1> my build haven't get there :) 15:50 < Mike1> i left my home box running so i asume i will get the chance to check it out later tonight 15:52 -!- Ge0rG [georg@212.21.74.154] has joined #rocklinux 15:56 < Mike1> jsaw: fix for rep-gtk01 sent. 15:58 < jsaw> 01 or 10? 15:58 < Mike1> 0.17 15:59 < Mike1> jsaw: i was missing 3 packages to get to 10 when i left home 15:59 < jsaw> Mike1: what are you doing about the gconf files. rpm's normally process the schema files after installation (I ask because of the shared files of libgnom22 and gnome-nautilus22). I thought, running gconftool as cron job would be the best. 16:01 < Mike1> your suggestion sounds fine, this build is my first attemp to check on the status on the gnome* stuff, so i'm trying to fix / update what i can, and also to find the bugs that are laying around. 16:02 < Mike1> jsaw: i will consider your idea of running gconftool as cron job when i get to libgnome22 and gnome-nautilus22 16:04 < jsaw> I'm really not sure about that. The problem is, that gconftool needs a source dir (see gconftool-2 --help, look for --makefile-install-rule). I haven't seen any package, that installs its files other than xml:///etc/opt/gnome2/gconf.xml.defaults , but one never knows. 16:05 < Mike1> jsaw: well as i mentioned before i haven't get there, but once i get ther and see the problem, i will work on solving the issue :) 16:07 < esden> gdday folks 16:11 < Mike1> God bless you esden 16:12 < esden> god bless you too Mike1 16:12 < Mike1> how are you esden? had a nice weekend? 16:14 < esden> it was very nice thank you 16:15 < esden> and how was your weekend? 16:15 < esden> I heared that you have a decent connection now? 16:15 < esden> what kind of connection is it? 16:17 < Mike1> esden: i don't have it yet, but i will have an ADSL 1024/256 16:17 < Mike1> esden: that will be enough to keep me happy at home 16:17 < esden> yes I can imagine that 16:18 < Mike1> :) 16:18 < esden> then you will be online 24/7 ;-) 16:18 < Mike1> and my weekend was good thanks 16:18 < esden> nice to hear that 16:18 < Mike1> esden: yes i will be online 24/7 16:18 < Mike1> esden: very productive weekend i can tell :) 16:18 < esden> have you produced child processes or what ? ;-) 16:19 < esden> *vbeg* 16:19 < jsaw> Mike1: I screwed the scrollkeeper.cron file. Patch is on the way, plz also verify the confopt settings. 16:19 < Mike1> esden: grrr.. 16:19 < Mike1> jsaw: will do so :) 16:20 < esden> Mike1: hehe ... I was right ... truth hurts the most ;-) 16:20 * Mike1 brabs his chainsaw .. 16:20 < Mike1> grabs* 16:20 < esden> chainsaw barber ... cool 16:21 < Mike1> litle esden come here, lets have little conversation you and i 16:21 < Mike1> :P 16:21 < esden> yes mike *very big grin* /me takes out his katana 16:21 < Mike1> lol 16:22 < Mike1> esden: but first i need to finish commiting my patches 16:23 < esden> Mike1: ok ;-) 16:23 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909B0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] kasc has no reason... just kidding :)") 16:23 < jsaw> cu l8r 16:24 -!- kasc [~kasc@p50909B0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:27 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:46 < tcr> Mike1 in patch fiebre! 16:47 < Mike1> tcr: you love it when i get like that don't you ? 16:47 < tcr> again, that's it :) 16:47 < Mike1> *vbeg* 16:47 < tcr> Yeah. Became so quiet on ml the last days anyway 16:48 < tcr> s,so,too,c 16:48 < Mike1> tcr: anyways, don't worry, i haven't finish testing all my stuff, so tomorrow i should move the ml a bit more :) 16:48 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 16:48 < Mike1> tcr: also no worries my patches are well tested :) 16:48 < Mike1> welcome back blindy 16:49 < blindcoder> thanks, man :) 16:49 < Mike1> tcr: i will try to get those " patch fiebres" more oftenly, so the impact is smaller 16:50 < blindcoder> /home/blindcoder/DEVELOPMENT/rock-1.7-bc/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 39: install_init: command not found 16:50 < blindcoder> hrm... not good 16:50 < Mike1> mm... 16:50 < Mike1> blindcoder: you are using cvs tree? 16:51 < blindcoder> fixd 16:51 < blindcoder> fixed 16:52 < Mike1> :) 16:52 < blindcoder> was an error in lpp's parse-config 16:52 < Mike1> a nice, ur testing it? 16:52 < blindcoder> I'm currenty running a build which I hope will have it enabld by default 16:53 < Mike1> blindcoder: good :) 16:53 < blindcoder> I had to change a ton of thingsw but it works :) 16:53 < tcr> lpp? 16:54 < Mike1> linux progressive patch 16:55 < tcr> ah 16:55 < blindcoder> linux progress patch 16:55 < Mike1> :) 16:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: whatever :P 16:56 < Mike1> prelink is braking because of some PPC code, damn it and it is _not_ a rock related problem :( 16:56 < Mike1> hope a new version comes out soon 16:58 * blindcoder now watching his build in #rocklinux-status again 16:59 -!- Ge0rG [georg@212.21.74.154] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:59 < esden> hehe ... anime rulez!!! 16:59 < Mike1> full ack 17:00 < tcr> Not my taste 17:00 < esden> blindcoder: this Animation Runner Kuromi-chan is _COOL_ 17:01 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@212.21.74.154] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 -!- kaerF [freak@p508B147B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:05 -!- Freak [freak@p508B328F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (ghosted: kaerF!freak@p508B147B.dip.t-dialin.net))) 17:06 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 17:06 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm131.gamma147.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 17:06 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x14.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:06 < blindcoder> esden: sre it is :) 17:07 * -> esden loughin his ass off ;-) 17:07 < blindcoder> hi cchamilt , dreamind 17:07 < blindcoder> cchamilt: I'm currently running a lpp-build :) 17:07 < esden> blindcoder: so you got it to work?!!! 17:07 < cchamilt> i cant get the progress bar, just the big picture 17:07 < esden> *cool* *jump_around* 17:08 < blindcoder> cchamilt: hmm... I'll have a quick look 17:08 < dreamind> hi blindcoder 17:08 < esden> hi cchamilt dreamind ... sbtw ;-) 17:09 * tcr grunts a big LOL. He knew that rene would ask exactly this question 17:09 < tcr> hey cchamilt 17:09 < blindcoder> cchamilt: which logo did you use? 17:10 < cchamilt> my own 17:11 < blindcoder> hmm... has there been a progress bar at least during kernel boot? not init-boot? 17:11 < Mike1> tcr: laughting at me? ;-| 17:11 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@x14.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (":x") 17:12 < tcr> Mike1: how do you come to think so? 17:12 < Mike1> tcr: because i know you enough. 17:12 < cchamilt> no 17:13 < tcr> That's all FUD, Mike1 :P 17:13 < cchamilt> just regular console spew 17:14 < tcr> Mike1: Of course not at you; it's just that the occurrence was funny 17:14 < blindcoder> cchamilt: strange... maybe the console overwrote the progress bar... 17:14 < Mike1> tcr: yeah :) 17:14 < tcr> Mike1: well countered! 17:15 < blindcoder> cchamilt: I deactivated vc/0 and just rdirected console to /dev/tts/0 17:15 < cchamilt> oh 17:16 < blindcoder> It worked for me, but maybe that's not what you want 17:16 < cchamilt> maybe i should try that 17:16 < cchamilt> box is at linuxworld, cant try till its back home. 17:16 < rxr> re 17:16 < blindcoder> well, I can try around friday, when this build is finished 17:17 < blindcoder> rxr: re 17:17 * blindcoder will now prepare a patch to fix the buggy linux24* packages :D 17:17 < Mike1> welcome back rxr 17:18 < rxr> hi Mike1 17:18 < cchamilt> hi rxr 17:19 < cchamilt> got an interesting hwscan rockplug problem 17:19 < cchamilt> aic79xx is not 'sensed' by either 17:19 * tcr . o O ( should I obey the masses and also greet rxr, or should I be rebellic) ;) 17:20 < Freak> hehe 17:20 < tcr> Ah and there awakes the true rebell! What wonder, oh, what wonder 17:21 < Freak> thou shall not talk to the rebell. 17:22 < Mike1> rxr: so you prefer me to include a *tested* on my mail with tested patches? 17:22 * tcr phone 17:22 < Freak> should I go and compile 2.5.74 on my powerbook? 17:22 < Freak> (rxr?) 17:27 * tcr bbl 17:27 < rxr> Mike1: yes - please - otherwise I can not be sure who tested what ... 17:27 < Mike1> rxr: ok will do so 17:27 < rxr> Freak: no 17:27 < Mike1> rxr: all patches i sent are tested, just hold uucp till tsa approves it 17:28 < rxr> Freak: use the 2.4.x benh kernel patches ... 17:28 < Mike1> uucp patch is tested, but i'm not sure if tsa will want to update it 17:28 < rxr> Mike1: jups - they will be applied in some minutes 17:28 < rxr> Mike1: just watch the svn storm 17:28 < Freak> rxr: is there some special reason *not* to do it or is 2.4 with ben just equal? 17:28 < tcr> Mike1: But please don't put a [TESTED] into the subject, but state that in the very beginning of your mail 17:28 < Freak> or 2.5 worse than 2.4 with ben .. or something 17:28 < Mike1> rxr: svn have been a little quite the last days anyways, i had to catch up some attention :) 17:29 < Mike1> tcr: will do so :) 17:29 < tcr> Mike1: thanks (it + [PATCH] would consume so much space) 17:29 < Mike1> tcr: but maybe i should send then to you in another mail with a [...T...E...S...T...E...D...] subject :)) 17:30 < Mike1> *vbeg* 17:30 < esden> Mike1: you could also use ascii art and make it even bigger ;-) 17:30 < Mike1> esden: hey man good idea, thanks :) 17:31 < rxr> Freak: 2.4 +benh is just the perfect kernel for Apple hardware currently - with 2.5 you will miss quite much - maybe even powermanaging your graphic-card 17:31 < tcr> bah, waste of Bandwith 17:31 < esden> or make the mail html and include a big image 1600x1200 bmp format with tested string in it ;-) 17:31 < Mike1> esden: ROTL, i guess tcr will love this 17:31 < esden> hehe ... I hope so ... it is my idea though ... so he has to like it ;-) 17:32 < tcr> I personally don't care much about bandwith, but I guess other people vigorously do 17:32 < Freak> rxr: I have no such thing as powermanagement for anything. 17:33 < Mike1> tcr: that mails will be sent only to you :) 17:33 < Freak> rxr: the pb has a nvidia card, remember.. 17:36 < tcr> Mike1: :P "Oh holy Killfile, thou who shalt be hallowed for eternity, I summon you in bottommost faithfulness" 17:36 < Mike1> :PP 17:37 * tcr is going to friends right away. Cu later 17:37 < blindcoder> okay, linux24* fix sent 17:37 < Freak> test 17:37 < Freak> sry :) 17:38 < Freak> just been testing if the re-plugged keyboard still worked :) 17:41 < daja77> blindcoder: what was wrong with linux24? 17:41 < blindcoder> daja77: lx_patches was reset during reading the .desc file but was previously msdified by a parse-config script 17:42 < daja77> ah ok no problem to bother for me thx 17:43 < rxr> daja77: could you try to build linux25 on x86 with svn HEAD ? 17:44 < daja77> yepp 17:44 < daja77> rxr: why the new xchat & icewm isn't on build list after svn up? 17:46 < rxr> daja77: hae? 17:47 < daja77> I did an svn up 17:48 < daja77> which update linux25, icewm and xchat, but those packags were not rebuild, and said to be missing by Build_Target 17:58 < daja77> *damn* 17:58 * blindcoder plays a bit of bzFlag o the happypenguin server 17:58 < daja77> great svn head updates thousands of packages, will take ages to download 17:59 * Mike1 hides 17:59 < rxr> daja77: just testing linux25 for me on x86 would be nice ;-) *g* 18:00 < daja77> ja ja schon dabei 18:00 < daja77> that means no rc1 running on my laptop on linuxtag .,. 18:01 < rxr> I think the -rc1 will be finished slightly after linuxtag ... :-( 18:01 < daja77> well I like my beta6 isos :)) 18:01 < rxr> jups ;-) 18:01 < rxr> We'll give away -beta6 ... 18:02 < daja77> okis 18:02 < daja77> but which, generic or drock? 18:02 < daja77> who buys the cds, btw? 18:05 < rxr> daja77: dunno - but the money should not be problem - usual the poeple give some EURs for them ... 18:05 < daja77> so we buy them in KA? 18:06 < rxr> it would be nicer to bring them along - there is often enough todo there .. 18:06 < rxr> btw: You all noticed that I'll be only there on Saturday and Sunday ? (friends marry on that Friday ...) 18:07 < daja77> so everybody brings some, or do is there an ''elected'' who does it 18:07 < daja77> rxr: yeah I noticed 18:07 < rxr> we should organize who will bring along how many - so we make sure we have some in the end ... 18:08 < daja77> hmm maybe I should ask ripclaw 18:09 < daja77> rxr: sorry I wrote no mail, I thought it wouldn't be neccessary after reading commit mails 18:16 < mnemoc> re 18:16 < rxr> hi mnemoc 18:16 < Mike1> hi mnemoc 18:16 < daja77> hi mnemoc 18:17 < Mike1> mnemoc: did you svn up already ? 18:18 < mnemoc> w8 18:18 < mnemoc> not yep 18:18 < mnemoc> (hi all) 18:18 < Mike1> mnemoc: hehe, the tree has changed.. a bit.. :) 18:19 < daja77> >_< 18:19 < Mike1> daja77: ? 18:19 < Mike1> h hi daja77 btw 18:19 < daja77> hi Mike1 18:20 < Mike1> daja77: why that face? 18:20 < mnemoc> Mike1: ¿? 18:20 < Mike1> mnemoc: nothing, just few updates.. 18:21 < daja77> Mike1: I read 5-rtai.err 18:21 < mnemoc> i have no problem with tested updates ;) 18:21 < daja77> *vbeg* 18:21 < Mike1> mnemoc: they are tested :) 18:23 < mnemoc> blindcoder: is your idea to lx_patches for ziped ones to avoid unpackage them in parse-configs? 18:23 < Mike1> ;-| 18:24 < mnemoc> or duplicate $patchfiles effort? 18:24 < blindcoder> mnemoc: no, that was chris idea to save some space cause those patches can becoms several MB unpacked 18:24 < blindcoder> okay, I'll go home now 18:24 < blindcoder> brb 18:25 < mnemoc> k 18:27 < daja77> haha it seems nobody has tried to compile rtai agianst 2.4.21, makefile failes >_< 18:28 < mnemoc> doh 18:28 < daja77> it sucks 18:29 < daja77> thing is the do a make deps, and checking for a include/asm dir in kernel src tree, but there is none anymore 18:30 < mnemoc> you will have to send them the proper patch :-) 18:31 < daja77> when I figured out what causes that trouble 18:31 < mnemoc> Mike1: 8 C' :-( 18:31 < Mike1> mnemoc: ?? 18:32 < mnemoc> Conflicts 18:32 < Mike1> define Conflicts 18:32 < mnemoc> >>>>> .mine <<<< .r719 ;-) ... diferent updated versions 18:32 < mnemoc> oficial was a, i had b and you patch to c 18:33 < Mike1> mm.. 18:33 < rxr> mnemoc: which files ? 18:33 < mnemoc> webmin and others... i already fix it 18:34 < Mike1> mnemoc: define fix 18:34 < mnemoc> make mine looks like yours 18:34 < Mike1> ah so you had already updated? 18:34 < mnemoc> yep.. 18:35 < mnemoc> a->b vs a->c : Conflict 18:35 * daja77 wird sich verstecken 18:35 < daja77> d'oh 18:35 < Mike1> mnemoc: mm.. 18:35 < daja77> wrong window 18:35 < mnemoc> rxr: can i make an option to build perl agains bdb41? 18:36 < daja77> perl needs bdb wtf 18:36 < mnemoc> and bdb33 18:36 < mnemoc> forced 18:36 < mnemoc> compatibility reasons :| 18:38 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 < Mike1> rippy!!!!!! 18:39 < daja77> ... this is _not_ my day 18:40 * Mike1 offers daja77 some Penguin Mints 18:40 < daja77> thx 18:40 < Mike1> daja77: don't worry, things will change :) 18:41 < daja77> make dep doesn't work with linux2.4.21 wtf 18:42 * daja77 gets mad 18:43 < Mike1> daja77: smile ;-) 18:43 < daja77> 8-) 18:44 < rxr> mnemoc: hm ... - I need to meditate about this ... 18:45 < daja77> hehe master yoda will meditate on rocksrc :) 18:45 < mnemoc> :-) 18:46 < daja77> any idea why 368 packages failed to build? 18:46 < mnemoc> wtf? 18:47 < mnemoc> did you Download? 18:47 < daja77> yes ... 18:47 < daja77> *lol* https://www.thesun.co.uk//article/0,,2-2003310256,00.html 18:49 < ripclaw> hi there ! 18:49 < daja77> rxr: 18:49 < daja77> > drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c: In function `sbp2scsi_complete_ .. 18:49 < daja77> !> drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c:2639: `PCI_DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL' un .. 18:49 < daja77> !> drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c: In function `sbp2scsi_abort': 18:49 < daja77> !> drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.c:2798: `PCI_DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL' un .. 18:49 < daja77> !> make[2]: *** [drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.o] Error 1 18:49 < daja77> !> make[1]: *** [drivers/ieee1394] Error 2 18:49 < daja77> !> make: *** [drivers] Error 2 18:49 < daja77> hi ripclaw 18:50 < ripclaw> did anyone experience problems with installing 2.0.0beta6 rev 625 - i did a standard install w. the boot dir mounted on part1 and the root dir on part4 - the system does not seem to have any bash 18:51 < ripclaw> even though i installed all packages - the root on the disk looks like the cdroot. 18:52 < daja77> hmm I never tried on systems with separated /boot and / 18:53 < ripclaw> rxr ? 18:54 < rxr> ripclaw: is this the official -beta6 iso ? or an own build? 18:55 < Mike1> ripclaw: i have installed a server with that specific iso, /, /boot, /usr, /var and /home on different partitions 18:55 < ripclaw> official cdrom rxr - the one on rocklinux.org 18:56 < rxr> ripclaw: there should not be a problem - but I can retest later ... 18:57 < rxr> me away to buy some food 18:57 < Mike1> rxr: i tested that iso, had no problem 18:57 < Mike1> enjoy rxr 18:57 < rxr> jups me neither ;-) 18:57 < daja77> gruni had problems afaik, anyway 18:57 < ripclaw> setup was bootin 5-1-1 partitions 1 and 4 ext2, 2 and 3 swap 18:57 < rxr> But tonight I'll setup some x86 box from the crap parts I have lying around here for testings ...) 18:58 < rxr> I'll retest. 18:58 < rxr> cu 18:58 < Mike1> ripclaw: mmm... 18:58 < Mike1> daja77: ? 18:58 < ripclaw> the problem was recreateable, i can bring the box to lxtag. 18:58 < ripclaw> cu rxr 18:58 < Mike1> ripclaw: can you bring it to cr ? :)) 18:59 < Mike1> ripclaw: this iso you installed for beta6, was drock, generic, or minimal? 18:59 * blindcoder back 18:59 < daja77> ripclaw: we can have a look at ltag, /me has some other isos if it doesn't help at all 19:00 < ripclaw> drock 19:00 < Mike1> ripclaw: quite weird honestly. 19:00 < Mike1> ripclaw: did you try to re-install ? 19:01 * daja77 wondering if Mike1 reads 19:01 < Mike1> daja77: ? 19:01 < ripclaw> yes reinstalled 4 times, same always 19:01 < Mike1> ripclaw: mm.. 19:02 < daja77> Mike1: you already said what you asked ... :) 19:02 < daja77> s/you/he 19:02 < Mike1> daja77: i'm just trying to make sure of things 19:02 < Mike1> to try to help Master ripclaw :) 19:03 < daja77> go on newbie Mike1 :) 19:03 < Mike1> daja77: actually this time i wasn't joking about the 'Master' thing. 19:04 < Mike1> ripclaw: i guess you have 2 choices, you can try another iso, or bring the box over to lxtag 19:04 < daja77> Mike1: I know ::) 19:06 < ripclaw> will try b5 19:06 < Mike1> ripclaw: is it for a workstation? 19:06 < daja77> or generic isos 19:06 < Mike1> ripclaw: maybe you wanna install minimal, and build ur own isos :) 19:07 < daja77> or this 19:07 < Mike1> but daja77's generic isos should do fine 19:08 < daja77> at least I used them successfully on 4 different machines 19:08 < daja77> even if that build is a bit older (1-2days) 19:10 * daja77 off to a meeting 19:10 < daja77> cu 19:10 < mnemoc> gl 19:11 < Mike1> sendmail.8.12.10.Beta2.tar.gz mmm... 19:11 < Mike1> guess 8.12.10 will be out before july is over.. 19:14 * blindcoder burns his k6-3 ROCK 2.0.0-rc1-dev-bc isos 19:23 < Mike1> server:~$ cat /etc/VERSION 19:23 < Mike1> ROCK Linux 1.3.11-DEV i686 (native, 2000/09/23) 19:23 < Mike1> server:~$ 19:27 < blindcoder> harr 19:27 < Mike1> blindcoder: ? :) 19:27 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ cat /etc/VERSION 19:27 < blindcoder> ROCK Linux 2.0.0-beta4 (2003/05/27) 19:27 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ 19:28 < Mike1> ha! 19:28 < blindcoder> :) 19:28 < blindcoder> I want to get LPP working before I upgrade again ;D 19:28 < Mike1> sure you should have rc1 :) 19:28 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-209-184.mnet-online.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:31 < blindcoder> I hope for -final to be next install 19:31 < blindcoder> -final-bc to be exact :) 19:32 < Mike1> :)) 19:33 < blindcoder> hrm... finding a new employer around here is... difficult at best... not to mention one who works with linux... 19:36 < Mike1> blindcoder: looking for a new job? 19:38 < blindcoder> Mike1: I'll probably be unemployed by 01.10. 19:38 < Mike1> mm.. that sux 19:39 < blindcoder> yeah 19:39 < uninvit3d> sux 19:39 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:40 < Mike1> hi uninvit3d :) 19:40 < uninvit3d> hiya dude ;-) 19:41 < blindcoder> hi uninvit3d 19:46 < uninvit3d> hiya blindy 19:49 < uninvit3d> going unemployed ? 19:49 < uninvit3d> ;-( 19:49 < blindcoder> as it seems - yes 19:49 < uninvit3d> why that ? 19:49 < blindcoder> umemployed, but not without future :-) 19:50 < blindcoder> well, I'm currently on "Consultant"-Status, and consultants are currently reduced by 100% 19:50 < uninvit3d> oh thats quite much i guess. 19:51 < blindcoder> yepp 19:52 < uninvit3d> . 19:54 < blindcoder> but I have a few options right now, so I don't worry too much. 19:54 < blindcoder> And I still have my job until 30th of Sept. 19:54 < uninvit3d> define options 19:57 < blindcoder> a handful of places I can sent applications to 20:03 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABBAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Mess with the best, die like the rest!") 20:06 < blindcoder> good night everyone 20:07 < uninvit3d> ciao blindcoder 20:07 < rxr> cu blindcoder 20:07 < Mike1> blindcoder: oyasumi nasai 20:07 < Mike1> re rxr :) 20:07 < rxr> yeah - re 20:07 -!- dennis [dennis@pD9EB7C01.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:07 < dennis> hi 20:08 < Mike1> hi dennis 20:08 < dennis> i was about 3 month afk ;) 20:10 < uninvit3d> hi dennis the menace ;-) 20:10 < dennis> esden, blind, etc, where's "hannes/fredi"? never heard from him for some month... 20:17 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABBAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:20 < tcr> re all 20:20 < Mike1> welcome back tcr 20:29 < rxr> Mike1: btw. have you tested my new linuxrc modifications for the install disk? 20:29 * rxr eating ... 20:30 < Mike1> rxr: well i built install target with this and had no errors, still waiting for my generic build to finish to test on for an install. 20:30 < Mike1> enjoy food rxr 20:38 < rxr> Mike1: you tested it with the 0 options? 20:38 < Mike1> mmhh ? 0 options? 20:39 < Mike1> now i think i'm not sure 20:39 < Mike1> was i supposed to do any special changes or tweaks? 20:39 < Mike1> i simply ran a build 20:40 < rxr> aside from "scanning for devices" I rearanged the options so that you only need to use the option "0" the new default at each question to do a normal CD installation ... 20:41 < Mike1> this is during boottime..., my build isn't over so i can't tell .. 20:41 < Mike1> will take me at least 1 more day to come up with exact results. 20:42 < Mike1> i need to eat, be back in some minutes 20:43 -!- netrunne1 [~netrunner@p50802A03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 < rxr> me eating too - so cu in some minutes ... 20:55 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p50802D3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:07 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:24 < Mike1> re. 21:26 < tcr> re Mike1 21:26 < Mike1> :) 21:28 < rxr> re 21:28 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip082-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 < Mike1> rxr: :) 21:30 < Mike1> hi Robin_Root 21:31 < rxr> oh shit - gsmp.tfh-berlin.de had an outage due to routing failures yesterday? :-( 21:32 < rxr> shit damn admins 21:32 < rxr> they should replace them with me ... 21:32 < mnemoc> you are more expensive ;) 21:32 < Mike1> mnemoc: are you cheaper? :P 21:33 < mnemoc> :( 21:33 < mnemoc> me sucks 21:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: i'm teasing you bro! :) 21:33 < mnemoc> ik :) 21:33 < Mike1> mnemoc: how is everything over there in Chile? 21:34 < mnemoc> wet :) 21:34 < mnemoc> it's raining as hell 21:35 < Mike1> hehe same here, lots of flood all over the country 21:35 < mnemoc> you are used to 21:35 < Mike1> more or less 21:35 < Mike1> it rains in my town, but not that much to have floods 21:36 < mnemoc> where do you live? pacific, center or atlantic? 21:36 < Mike1> center :) 21:36 < Mike1> athlantic is too damn hot for my like 21:37 < Mike1> and pacific mm.. also hot, i do not like hot wether 21:37 < Mike1> weather* 21:37 < mnemoc> heheh 21:37 < mnemoc> gotta go... cu 21:37 < Mike1> cu amery 21:38 < mnemoc> cu mbolanos 21:38 < Mike1> :P 21:45 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:45 < daja77> re 21:47 < rxr> hi daja77 21:47 < daja77> re hi rxr 21:47 < daja77> rxr: linux25 failed ... 21:49 < rxr> daja77: my build is currently running ... 21:49 < rxr> I saw in firewire on your side? 21:50 < rxr> i fixed a "ROCK Linux - linux configuration mess the .config up" bug - the rest should be "2.5 is not ready yet compile errors" ... 21:50 < daja77> yes 21:50 < daja77> then throw it out 21:50 < rxr> nope - just blacklist bad drivers .... 21:51 < rxr> vanilla 24 or 24benh also do not build without blacklisted config options ... 21:51 < rxr> and 2.5 runs much better in some USB situations ... and multiple ROCK build conditions 21:51 < daja77> hehe then we throw them all out :) 21:51 < rxr> we'll have a 2.6 in some months (4-6?) so we start testing and help hardening ... 21:52 < daja77> *hmpf* 21:53 * Mike1 thinks rockers should contribute a bit on linux2.5 and linux2.4 development 21:54 < Mike1> including myself yes.. 21:54 -!- Robin_Root [Robin_Root@ip082-2-8.dialup.edisontel.com] has quit () 21:55 < daja77> Mike1: well I tend to agree with you, but downloading a new 20mb kernel every few days which fails afterwards is quite frustrating 21:55 < Mike1> daja77: cvs... 21:55 < rxr> Mike1: or this damn bitkeeper for the kernel ... 21:56 < Mike1> i don't know guys, i'm just not happy with both kernels needing black listed drivers ando so to work for us 21:57 < daja77> ack 21:57 < Mike1> i know not eveyrone has the skills to just jump in and fix code, but even bug reports can be very helpfull 21:57 < Mike1> and this is someone anyone can do 21:57 * daja77 not happy about glibc too, but that's another story 21:57 < daja77> Mike1: it is time consuming and not everybody has much time 21:58 < tcr> Mike1: What can we effectively do? 21:58 < daja77> ah hi tcr 21:58 < Mike1> tcr: maybe we could start at least reporting what is faling for _us_ 21:58 < tcr> Mike1: OSDL has a big lab whose purpose is only compiling kernels with every combinations 21:58 < dennis> anybody from the "ingolstadt-boys" available? 21:59 < tcr> Mike1: Hmm, well yeah that's clear anyway 21:59 < tcr> hey daja77 21:59 < daja77> tcr: read your msg ;) 21:59 < tcr> Yo. :/ 21:59 < rxr> some of those blacklisted configs are really easy to fix 22:00 < rxr> for 2.4 there are not many (at least on x86) - 2.5 has some more - but they will decrease soon since the kernel is now mocing towards 2.6 ... 22:00 < Mike1> rxr: well maybe we could jump in those blacklisted configs and try to fix them, it will help the kernel developm,ent, and more important, it will help ROCK 22:01 < rxr> Mike1: feel free .. 22:01 < Mike1> rxr: sure i will :) 22:01 < daja77> hehe :) 22:02 < Mike1> rxr: i'm as well trying to motivate others 22:02 < daja77> he is quite good on that 22:02 < rxr> a bigger problem then some not compiling drivers are real design issues - and that those damn people seem to rip devfs out of the kernel - I hope this will not happen (I'll not use this user-space devfs replacement crap ...) 22:02 < rxr> if this ever happens we (at least I) need to maintain a devfs add-on patch ... 22:03 < Mike1> rxr: count me in to help on this add-on if it happens 22:03 < daja77> they want to kick out devfs wtf 22:04 < daja77> *lol* my quote in the stats ... 22:05 < tcr> daja77: Because it's current implementation is more bloat than code 22:06 < daja77> tcr: yes and because it needs 3/4h to build that's ridiculous 22:07 < tcr> What's ridiculous? That they want to take it out, or that it takes so long? 22:08 < daja77> oh you were still talking about kernel, sorry 22:11 < Mike1> daja77: are you ok? 22:11 < daja77> ahem ... yes 22:15 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux 22:17 -!- jose [~jose@196.40.45.146] has joined #rocklinux 22:18 < jose> hi everybody! 22:18 < tcr> moin 22:18 < jose> how is this rock thing going ?! 22:19 < tcr> A rock seldom goes, it rolls (more or less) ;) 22:22 < dennis> hi jose 22:24 < jose> good for you! 22:24 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157026001.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:24 < jose> dennis: please to meet you! 22:24 < dreamind> Hi 22:25 < Mike1> dreamind. 22:25 < dreamind> hi Mike1 :) 22:25 < tcr> hey dreamind. How's things? Projects running well? 22:26 < dreamind> Hi tcr :) 22:26 < dreamind> tcr: well first I have to do some things for my study :( 22:26 * Mike1 will include oroborus in his rock repository after his current build is over. 22:27 < dreamind> ah, nice to hear =) 22:28 < tcr> hmm, is there some simple way to make acrobat reader print a file not black on white but some-color on white? 22:28 < Mike1> dreamind: so now you better do good work with it, because you will have me bugging you :)) 22:28 < dreamind> hehe ;) 22:28 < dreamind> so lets see and wait ;) *grin* 22:28 < tcr> The black ink patrone is empty, but the color ones are almost full 22:29 < tcr> (Yeah, I could copy the text and paste into X, but formatting would be lost) 22:29 < tcr> s,X,any-application, 22:30 < daja77> if you'd use cups for printing you could change that ... 22:31 -!- wsnap [~demian@pD9523113.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:32 < tcr> daja77: Nah, it's a windoz box 22:32 < wsnap> hi 22:32 < dennis> hi 22:32 < tcr> Nevermind, it's not that important anyway 22:33 < wsnap> u here Mike1 ? 22:33 < daja77> windows is never importnt ... 22:33 < Mike1> wsnap: always :) 22:33 < rolla> re 22:33 < wsnap> idle 0 secondsidle 0 seconds 22:33 < wsnap> nice to c u again 22:33 < rxr> I commited some rockplug modifications ... 22:33 < wsnap> how are u Miguel ? 22:34 < Mike1> wsnap: fine and you ? nice you are back 22:34 < Mike1> query me wsnap 22:34 * rolla pokes Mike1 with a stick 22:34 < daja77> hi rolla 22:34 < rolla> :) 22:34 < tcr> wsnap is demian?? in germany?! 22:35 < Mike1> rolla: hey!! hold that stick 22:35 < Mike1> tcr: don't let the host trick you 22:36 * daja77 gives rolla ahulk doll for his son *vbeg* 22:36 < rolla> :) thanks 22:37 < daja77> rolla: https://www.thesun.co.uk//article/0,,2-2003310256,00.html 22:37 < wsnap> tcr.. physically in Costa Rica 22:37 < daja77> :) 22:38 < uninvit3d> niahahhaa...giant manhood ;-) 22:38 < uninvit3d> couldnt you get that on one of these rock linux banners: 22:38 < uninvit3d> I m using rocklinux, ergo i ve got this "giant manhood" ;-) 22:39 < daja77> hehe 22:39 < daja77> I mean _that's_ the incredible hulk .... 22:40 < daja77> or maybe that doll makers got too much mail 22:40 < uninvit3d> har har har 22:40 < uninvit3d> i think thats the part which i d call aggresive marketing ;-) 22:41 < rxr> Unknown host www.penguinppc.org 22:41 < rxr> ^ - do you get this , too ? 22:41 < Mike1> 64 bytes from 216.218.240.223: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=153.9 ms 22:41 < Mike1> rxr: nope. 22:42 < tcr> rxr: works for me 22:42 < uninvit3d> PING penguinppc.org (216.218.240.223): 56 data bytes 22:42 < uninvit3d> 64 bytes from 216.218.240.223: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=192.7 ms 22:42 < daja77> works for me too 22:42 < Mike1> rxr: sorry man, looks likeu got a problem . 22:44 < uninvit3d> rxr> can you ping ip scsflly ? 22:44 < rxr> now it works ... - seems my providers nameserver sometimes does not work correctly ... 22:45 < uninvit3d> rxr> which provider ? 22:45 < tcr> Yeah I often suffer from that too 22:46 < rxr> uninvit3d: qsc 22:46 < rxr> or maybe the konqueror cached s.th. - I have not tried ping immediately ... 22:47 < uninvit3d> qsc ? 22:48 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:48 < jsaw> re 22:49 < daja77> hi jsaw 22:49 < Mike1> jsaw: welcome back. 22:49 < jsaw> hi daja77, hi Mike1 22:50 < dennis> hi jsaw 22:50 < uninvit3d> okay. good nite every1 22:50 < uninvit3d> gonna take some sleep 22:50 * uninvit3d is away: Anghar Drakkhen , Anghar Khang ! 22:50 < rxr> hi jsaw 22:50 < jsaw> *grin* hi .* 22:51 < rxr> jsaw: I did some rockplug commits ... 22:51 < rxr> uninvit3d: q-dsl from qsc ... 22:52 -!- uninvit3d [~uninvited@ppp-62-245-209-184.mnet-online.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:52 < jsaw> rxr: I saw it. I'm just finishing some packages I need to regain full productivity (on my new and shiny ROCK powered PC@home). Then I'll put my eyes on rockplug solely. 22:53 < jsaw> rxr: I'd wish we had more feedback, though. 22:53 < daja77> jsaw: hehe nbut keep your eyes open *fg* 22:53 < daja77> I'll give you feedback after I can upgrade my box here 22:54 < jsaw> daja77: I'm not talking 'bout you. I know you do your best to break it... hehe 22:54 < daja77> hehe indeed, I can break rock all the tiome ... 22:54 < rxr> jsaw: I guess that it did not worked for daja (and others) is: 22:54 < rxr> a) it was not enabled by default (/etc/conf/hardware did not exist) 22:55 < rxr> b) it was run before / was writeable - so it failed due to no lock and log files could be created 22:55 < rxr> daja77: hm? 22:56 < wsnap> re 22:56 < daja77> rxr: beleive me you don't wanna know all of this :) 22:57 < rxr> daja77: all of this is fixed now anyway ... 22:57 < daja77> hehe 22:58 < daja77> well I deleted my fscked up build cos I don't wanna waste more time with it, hope I can fix that rtai issue soon 22:59 * daja77 goes to bed now, cu 22:59 < Mike1> n8 daja77 22:59 < jsaw> n8 daja77 22:59 < dennis> gn8 23:00 * daja77 can't get this picture of that girl with the hulk doll out of his head ... 23:00 < dennis> ;) 23:01 < wsnap> i will 23:01 < wsnap> i will see 23:07 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABBAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:08 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:12 < rxr> hi ripclaw 23:12 < wsnap> well guys 23:12 < wsnap> cu 23:12 < wsnap> have fun 23:12 < Mike1> hi ripclaw 23:12 -!- wsnap [~demian@pD9523113.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 23:39 < esden> hi all 23:39 < esden> ripclaw's ghost .. nice ;-) 23:45 < rxr> you all have already voted for ROCK Linux at the linux journal award ? 23:45 < Mike1> url please 23:47 < rxr> I posted on the mailing list 23:47 < rxr> does nobody read it ? 23:47 < rxr> 07/04 3k To:<rock-linux@roc [rock-linux] ROCK Linux voting at LinuxJournal 23:47 < Mike1> hehe 23:47 < Mike1> could you paste the url to me .. please. 23:49 < rxr> https://www.linuxjournal.com/rc2003/ 23:51 < Mike1> thx. 23:55 < esden> rxr: I have voted 23:55 -!- dreamind [dreamind@IP-213157026001.dialin.heagmedianet.de] has quit (":x") 23:55 < rxr> ;-) 23:55 < rxr> just in this moment, or days ago ? 23:55 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable87a195.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:55 < esden> rxr: days ago 23:55 < esden> the day you posted it 23:56 < rxr> ah - nice 23:59 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508928DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) --- Log closed Tue Jul 08 00:00:48 2003