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--- Log opened Son Nov 30 00:00:32 2003 00:21 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABC17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 01:07 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 01:07 < MadTux> hello all. 01:08 < __mnemoc> wb Mickey1 01:08 < MadTux> hi Ale :) 01:09 < MadTux> ping WrKRobe 01:09 < daja77> hi MadTux 01:09 < MadTux> Daniel! hello :) 01:09 < rxr> re 01:09 < MadTux> welcome back rxr 01:10 < daja77> hey rxr 01:10 < __mnemoc> hi bad rxr :( 01:10 -!- __mnemoc is now known as mnemoc 01:10 < MadTux> mnemoc: why bad? 01:10 < MadTux> daja77: any new stuff found on lvp? 01:11 < daja77> had no look at it today 01:11 < MadTux> daja77: oh ok. I just hope to see blindcoder around soon, he stated that he should have a some nice improvements for a new release, so i can get involved 01:12 < daja77> yeah 01:13 < rxr> ok - me off into bed ... 01:13 < rxr> see you 01:13 < MadTux> daja77: :) 01:13 < daja77> n8 rxr 01:13 < MadTux> rxr: sleep well 01:14 < MadTux> daja77: you are currently inovled on lvp devel as well? 01:14 < daja77> i am just bugging blindy atm 01:15 < MadTux> bugging blindy is just too much fun :O) 01:15 < daja77> hehe 01:15 < daja77> well i will fork it to create multimedia cds with it 01:15 < MadTux> oh yeah, i had forgot 01:19 < MadTux> ok so anime calls, see you later 01:23 * MadTux is away: watching anime 01:50 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-089.arcor-ip.net] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 02:09 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-066-224.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:02 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 04:12 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9502893.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:19 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900573F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 04:27 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.206.245.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:47 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.199.19.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 05:00 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FD06.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:00 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F99E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Nick collision from services. 05:00 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 05:04 < MadTux> blindy 05:05 < MadTux> ping blindcoder 05:21 < A-Tui> bye bye, time to bed 05:21 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 05:22 * MadTux is back (gone 03:58:33) 07:58 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p508028F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:58 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 07:58 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Tue Sep 2 15:34:51 2003] 07:58 [Users #rocklinux] 07:58 [ [anders] ] [ cchamilt ] [ fake ] [ MadTux ] [ owl ] [ snyke ] 07:58 [ _spectre_ ] [ clifford ] [ hannes] [ mistik1 ] [ praenti] [ th ] 07:58 [ Aard ] [ cytrinox`] [ huebi ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ WrKRobe] 07:58 [ aszlig_ ] [ daja77 ] [ k3t_ ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr ] [ zum ] 07:58 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] 07:58 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 29 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 29 normal] 07:58 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 07:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 07:59 -!- Keepnick: Couldn't determine chatnet (now ) 08:15 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080244C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 08:40 < MadTux> God i'm bored.. 08:50 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 08:50 < rxr> re 10:13 < blindcoder> moin 10:28 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAAB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:29 < tcr> moin all 10:29 * blindcoder gone again 10:48 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 11:00 < daja77> moin 11:01 < MadTux> hello daja77 :) 11:01 < daja77> hi MadTux 11:01 < MadTux> daja77: sleep well? 11:02 < daja77> oh yes 11:02 < MadTux> glad to hear 11:11 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit "Client Exiting" 11:32 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has joined #rocklinux 11:54 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 13:16 -!- jani_ [jani@ppp115-242.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:17 < jani_> Is there a way of using a different ISOLINUX bootcd for the installation of Rock? My laptop has kernel panics with the official iso, but works fine with the debian or the fedora boot iso. The panic happens while trying to mount root. Debian/fedora need the acpi=on switch, but that doesn't make a difference to the rock boot cd 13:18 < daja77> which iso you have used? 13:19 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 13:19 < daja77> hi A-Tui 13:19 < jani_> generic-2.0.0-rc2-rev1605+fixes_cd1.iso from drocklinux.dyndns.org 13:19 < daja77> afaik there is no acpi support in that kernel 13:20 < A-Tui> hola daja77 13:20 < daja77> well you said it panics when trying to mount root? 13:20 < jani_> ah, that would explain it. do you know if there's an iso image with acpi support? alternatively, is there a way of building one myself? 13:20 < daja77> i don't think this is acpi related 13:21 < daja77> i think that burn errors are more likely 13:21 < jani_> yeah, it's a compaq evo n1015v, and the ide controller stops functioning with debian iso and fedora iso unless acpi=on is passed to the kernel 13:21 < jani_> it's some quirky HP/compaq hardware. to make the ide work again it needs a cold reboot 13:22 < daja77> could you please report this to the rocklinux mailinglist 13:22 < jani_> the acpi seems to work passing irq's out to devices without causing the crash. also there's an mce bug, using linux nomce gets me further in the boot process, but even then it just dies trying to re-read the cdrom to mount root 13:23 < jani_> sure, i'll pass it on... i'll have to do it tomorrow, when I have a chance of transcribing the error message (computer crashes hard, no chance to get at logs) 13:23 < daja77> you could grab the messages via serial cable 13:24 < jani_> easier to just type it into my other computer :) 13:24 < daja77> think so ^^ 13:25 < jani_> i tried looking for those non-official iso's that were mentioned on the website, but none seemed to be present at the linked site. I was hoping maybe I could install from a fedora rescue shell, but don't know how I'd go about doing that. 13:28 < jani_> ah well, it's late, i'll have to play with it again tomorrow. cya 13:29 -!- jani_ [jani@ppp115-242.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has quit "Leaving" 13:29 < daja77> ok cu 13:40 < mnemoc> *yawn* 13:42 * daja77 steals one of mike's jolts and throws it in mnemoc's direction 13:43 * mnemoc catch it on the air and throw it back 13:43 < daja77> hey drink it, not throw it 13:43 < mnemoc> :) 13:43 < mnemoc> what is a jolt? :( 13:44 < mnemoc> throw it again please 13:45 * daja77 throws it again 13:45 < daja77> a cola with much caffeine 13:47 * mnemoc jumps backward catch the cola with caffeine :) 13:48 * mnemoc drinking it to wake up 13:51 < tcr> Speaking about coke, has anyone drunk the new vanilla cola so far? 13:52 < mnemoc> vanilla coca?? wtf? 13:53 < tcr> yeah they ship that in germany 13:53 < tcr> the thing is I couldn't taste the vanilla.. 13:53 < tcr> it tastes more like some kind of medicine 13:57 < daja77> hehe coke was sold as medicine before bein sold as a beverage 13:57 < daja77> invented by a pharmacist ... 13:58 < tcr> I don't drink coke that much anyway 13:59 < tcr> It's too sweet and makes my teeth hurt 13:59 < mnemoc> nothing can be better that a glass of cold WATER :) 14:01 < tcr> Yeah, but only after heavy physical effort 14:10 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9530320.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:13 -!- cytrinox` [~cytrinox@p213.54.206.245.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 14:26 < blindcoder> WTF? 14:26 < blindcoder> coreutils needs PERL to build? 14:28 < mnemoc> the linux kernel too 14:28 < blindcoder> yes ,I just found out because the CROSS-Build doesn't have perl >_< 14:29 < blindcoder> [X] This is a cross-build between architectures 14:29 < blindcoder> no perl, no coreutils, no kernel 14:30 < blindcoder> actually, the kernel DID build 14:30 < tcr> don't ask me why it depends on perl.. I wondered too 14:30 < tcr> I guess it may be used for creation of documentation 14:30 < blindcoder> well, it's not that I wonder about why it does, it's more: Why does hte cross-build not include it? 14:30 < tcr> why does it depends on it? 14:31 < blindcoder> yes 14:31 < tcr> >why< 14:31 < mnemoc> it does because some dorks decide to use it :\ ... 2.7 will depend on python 14:31 < tcr> in what way will it depend? 14:31 < tcr> Sorry, I don't get it 14:31 < daja77> argl please tell me that this is not true 14:31 < blindcoder> I ran a Build-Target inside the cross-build and 1-coreutils failed 14:31 < blindcoder> daja77: It is not true. 14:32 < tcr> blindcoder, why did it fail exactly? (because configure couldn't find an instance of perl?) 14:32 < mnemoc> jk 14:33 < blindcoder> tcr: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter 14:33 < tcr> When did you get that? 14:33 < daja77> blindcoder: thx 14:33 < blindcoder> hmm... somewhere during the build... 14:33 < blindcoder> within make 14:35 < tcr> blindcoder, that means? 14:35 < tcr> I still can't believe it does really depend on perl 14:35 < blindcoder> tcr: that means that somewhere in coreutils a perl-script is called! 14:35 < blindcoder> just do a grep /usr/bin/perl /usr/src/coreutils/ -R 14:35 < tcr> blindcoder, you smart bastard! 14:36 < blindcoder> tcr: sorry, but it sems you don't get it, so I have to talk like I would to an idiot 14:36 -!- dark [~firm@212.174.97.173] has joined #rocklinux 14:37 -!- dark [~firm@212.174.97.173] has left #rocklinux [] 14:37 < tcr> I'd like to find out the place where a perl script is called and how it's named 14:37 < tcr> Don't have the source at hand 14:37 < blindcoder> src/wheel-gen.pl:#!/usr/bin/perl -w 14:37 < blindcoder> there 14:37 < blindcoder> that script is caled during the build 14:38 < blindcoder> there are three other perl script in the coreutils source, but at this one the build stopped with: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter 14:39 < blindcoder> looks like the maintainers of coreutils just assumed that everyone and their dog has perl on their machine 14:41 < tcr> Ok, that doesn't seem to be a heavy dependance 14:43 < blindcoder> if the build breaks because of, then it does look like one to me 14:46 < tcr> Aye, but you may reach something when you write to the maintainer about it 14:46 < tcr> I mean rewriting one script... that should not mean that much work 14:48 < mnemoc> have you counted how many perl scripts are on linux24?? they will never understand a machine/build without it 14:51 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9530320.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 15:08 * blindcoder --> bath 15:38 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit "I like core dumps" 15:51 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAAB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 15:55 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAAB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:56 < tcr> anyone running 2.6 with lvm? 15:57 < tcr> I wonder if there ain't be support for lvm in the kernel... can't find the damn option 15:59 < mnemoc> look for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LVM ;) 16:00 < tcr> doesn't exist in my .config 16:01 < daja77> not all symbols are in .config by default in 2.6 afaik 16:03 < tcr> hmm, I googled a bit.. 2.6 seems to support lvm2 only, whereas 2.4 contained lvm1 16:03 < tcr> Anyone expierence with this? 16:09 < mnemoc> seems not 16:31 < tcr> scripts/functions is b0rken? 16:38 < tcr> Oups. my fault sorry 16:55 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAAB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 17:09 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-249.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.206.245.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:18 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.206.245.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit Remote closed the connection 17:21 -!- cytrinox [~cytrinox@p213.54.206.245.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:31 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has left #rocklinux [] 17:33 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-249.arcor-ip.net] has quit "Client exiting" 17:33 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 17:34 -!- Doctor_ [~Rex@pcp03379701pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:34 < Doctor_> hi guys 17:34 < mnemoc> hi 17:34 < Doctor_> ever heard of plan9? 17:36 < Doctor_> guess not 17:37 < mnemoc> unix like distributed os? 17:37 < mnemoc> but never seen it 17:37 * daja77 once played with plan9 17:38 < Doctor_> is it good? 17:38 < Doctor_> I dont understand it much, but I'm so interested 17:38 < daja77> well i failed installing it ^^ 17:38 < Doctor_> I mean... can it run gnome and kde? 17:38 < daja77> no it can not 17:39 < Doctor_> so its just has its own thing goin on ay? 17:39 < Doctor_> not even X? 17:39 < daja77> it isn't capable of running much unix apps 17:39 < mnemoc> https://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/screenshot.html 17:39 < daja77> no X, yes 17:39 < mnemoc> pretty discusting 17:39 < daja77> they created their own environment 17:39 < Doctor_> ayh.. ot think about it- that makes it hard to convince anyone 17:40 < daja77> they do not even use standard C 17:40 < mnemoc> python? =) 17:40 < Doctor_> the thing I thought was smart about their unix was the extemely expanded and reinveneted /dev directory 17:40 < daja77> well the look is not that much important, they ui concepts are not that bad though 17:41 < daja77> well plan9 is the successor of unix in another way you would imagine it 17:41 < daja77> mnemoc: nope own C like dialect 17:41 < daja77> Doctor_: go and read some papers and decide later 17:42 < Doctor_> lol.. yah. I just like their /dev concept and perhaps wanna do such a thing in a linux distro 17:43 < daja77> there are ports of the plan9 protocol and apps to linux afaik 17:46 < Doctor_> like thier apps are good at all... 17:47 < daja77> can't tell, have no time to play with it 17:47 < Doctor_> another concoept I like that is actually compatible with linux is ion 17:47 < Doctor_> the GUI- ion? its a window manager actually 17:49 * daja77 has to go now, sorry 17:49 < daja77> cu later 17:49 < Doctor_> rather than 'windows', it uses grids.. it cuts the screen into slices 17:49 < mnemoc> cu daja77 17:49 < Doctor_> ah cya daja77 17:49 < daja77> yep you can sort of grep over the gui 17:50 < daja77> anyway off now 17:51 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-249.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:54 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-249.arcor-ip.net] has quit Client Quit 18:13 -!- Doctor_ [~Rex@pcp03379701pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has quit "Leaving" 18:43 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-249.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:39 < netrunne1> re 19:39 -!- You're now known as netrunner 19:43 -!- Amittp [Amit@202.179.67.18] has joined #rocklinux 19:46 < Amittp> Hi, Rock Linux handbook says that it has autodetected dependencies. What does that exactly mean. Because later it states its not similar to ebuilds in gentoo where dpes are hardcoded 19:50 < netrunner> the handbook detect's dependencies? 19:51 < Amittp> lol, ok the build process! I am not familiar with rock's terminology yet 19:52 < Amittp> target? scripts... I am not able to understand how autodetection take place. 19:54 < netrunner> building usually means compiling the whole target. targets define what you get, a linux dist, with all packages (generic), a linux desktop system (desktop) a bootdisk (bootdisk) ... scripts are used for that, you find them in scripts/* 19:56 < Amittp> hmm, got that, but unsure about the autodetection process. 19:56 < Amittp> I am really interested how does that happen 19:59 < Amittp> looking at metadata i see that dependencies filed is present 19:59 < Amittp> s/filed/field 19:59 < netrunner> Amittp: we do reference builds where we check what package depends on what. then .cache files for package are created containing that info. also, a scripts/deb.db.txt is created for cluster builds. 19:59 < Amittp> so isn't it hardcording as well? 20:00 < netrunner> Amittp: what other chance do you have? 20:01 < Amittp> netrunner, no idea, but I am trying to understand difference, 20:01 < netrunner> Amittp: cannot tell, do not know the other sicde ;) 20:02 < Amittp> netrunner, I just want to know how it is different from gentoo ebuild hardcoding? 20:03 < Amittp> netrunner, oh , I am not trying to find new method, I want to shift to rock, especiall beacuse we save our build on cd. got sold on that idea 20:03 < netrunner> Amittp: maybe you ask to the mailinglist, as there seems to be no wise person around ;) rock-linux@rocklinux.org 20:03 < Amittp> so i want to know what i am going to encounter! 20:03 < Amittp> before i make heavy transition 20:04 < netrunner> Amittp: you cannot compare gentoo to ROCK, they have different goals. rock can be everything, a bsd, a linux, a desktop system, a server system ... gentoo is just one thing: a self compiling linux dist. 20:04 < netrunner> Amittp: it's a higher level of abstraction I'd say. 20:05 < Amittp> ok, let me stop thinking it with eyes of different distro. Willd o more justice then 20:06 < netrunner> Amittp: currently there is only linux targets available. but we have bsd and mabe hurd in 2.1 roadmap. 20:06 < zum> Is hurd still alive? 20:07 < pieass> can someone tell me, what is the time in germany? 20:07 < netrunner> Amittp: dunno ;) but if it is, we can easily include it. we have the neccessary abstraction ;) 20:07 < netrunner> pieass: 2004 20:07 < Amittp> for now I am concerned about linux 20:07 < netrunner> Amittp: we'll soon release 2.0 ... but it is already now quite usable. 20:08 < Amittp> ok about this "installable build output" --> i can use this to just re-install my machine again? without going through painful hours of compiling? 20:09 < Amittp> netrunner, do releases mater in rock? i thought you go on getting upgraded 20:13 < Amittp> hello? 20:21 -!- Amittp [Amit@202.179.67.18] has quit "Leaving" 20:25 < netrunner> please leave a message after the beep ;) 20:40 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAAB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 < tcr> re all 21:56 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAAB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Remote closed the connection 22:06 -!- A-Tui [~Aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502893.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 22:26 -!- pieass [~se@3ffe:bc0:701:0:2a0:b0ff:fe00:1beb] has quit "leaving" 22:46 < cytrinox> gn8 22:52 -!- LeClair [~LeClair@213.252.117.199] has joined #rocklinux 22:52 < LeClair> hi 22:52 < daja77> hi LeClair 22:52 -!- LeClair is now known as fagot 22:52 < fagot> what's rock linux? 22:53 < fagot> than he better 22:53 < fagot> ?? 22:53 < daja77> hm? 22:53 -!- fagot is now known as ti9s 22:53 < daja77> what is your name? 22:54 < ti9s> nick 22:54 < netrunner> daja77: hey you! yes you! what's your name! show me your id! face the wall! 22:54 < daja77> netrunner: s/name/nick, i just want it to be a bit consistent that's all 22:54 < ti9s> popula net faces )) 22:55 < netrunner> daja77: ;) at least one who cares for the order here 22:55 < ti9s> whats differen rock linux and redhat? 22:56 < netrunner> ti9s: we do not wear red hats 22:56 < daja77> rock linux is a distribution build kit to create your own distributions with it 22:56 < ti9s> i-am perspective beginner 22:56 < ti9s> ) 22:56 < netrunner> ti9s: what's the difference between a chicken and an egg? 22:56 < daja77> rh is a ready to use distro 22:56 < ti9s> yes 22:56 < ti9s> allright 22:56 < daja77> netrunner: no need to bug everybody tonight 22:56 < netrunner> ti9s: think of the chicken to be ROCK, and redhat to be one of the possible shapes of an egg 22:57 < ti9s> iam possible may by be use slackware 22:57 < ti9s> or other distrib 22:57 < netrunner> daja77: hey, I am trying to be funny! 22:57 < ti9s> (rock l) 22:57 < daja77> try harder! 22:57 < daja77> :) 22:58 < netrunner> daja77: not as long as nobody congratulates me today. 22:58 * netrunner throwing whole fence through the channel 22:59 < daja77> happy birthday old netrunner :) 22:59 < ti9s> yes thanks 22:59 < netrunner> daja77: aaah :) thx :) 22:59 < ti9s> good community 23:00 < netrunner> ti9s: ok, now I can explain to you: you can use the ROCK Distribution build kit to build the distribution you like. Don't be scared by how that sounds, there are predefined targets that work without much handwork. 23:00 < daja77> ti9s: for a start you could grab ready iso images from our hp and play with it, after that you might wish to build it on your own 23:01 < ti9s> you are absolute non commercial? 23:01 < ti9s> distrib 23:02 < daja77> depends 23:02 * netrunner wants money ;) 23:02 < ti9s> ))) 23:02 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 23:02 < ti9s> how much ) 23:02 < daja77> rock itself is non commercial, but some developers gain money by creating distributions for their customers 23:02 < netrunner> each question here costs $5. it's automatically reduced from your bank account. 23:03 < daja77> hehe 23:03 < daja77> netrunner: we are cheap, ms wants 90$ per question ^^ 23:03 < ti9s> tune pay system ) 23:03 < ti9s> i am from russian - poor and cold country 23:04 < netrunner> ti9s: it's as with all other gpl stuff. you can use it and be friendly to the developers (here) and hope your needs get fullfilled. or you pay somebody to develop what you need fast and with warranty. 23:04 < netrunner> ti9s: priviet ;) 23:04 < ti9s> i tiebe toje 23:04 < netrunner> ti9s: hey, sorry, i do only know a few words ;) 23:05 < daja77> cool ppl around me starting to speak more and more russian 23:05 * netrunner only pretends 23:05 < daja77> well for a start ^^ 23:05 < netrunner> daja77: you speak russian? 23:05 < ti9s> i am only lean english 23:05 < ti9s> on gagarin's level ) 23:05 < daja77> netrunner: i should ;-) but i forgot a lot 23:06 < netrunner> ti9s: my gf speaks russian, and I am always curious what she talks to others ... but it's hard to understand. 23:06 < daja77> the girl i meet, learns russian atm, gave her my old books 23:06 -!- elteo [~elteo@251.Red-80-36-58.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 < daja77> cos netrunner is jealous 23:06 < daja77> :) 23:06 < ti9s> dream of green card ))) 23:06 * netrunner started romanian. it's easier, and fulfills the same goal. 23:07 < netrunner> after that, I'll try russian. 23:07 < daja77> netrunner: romanian is another language family ... 23:07 < daja77> romanian is a bit like italian 23:07 < netrunner> daja77: yes. the same as our's. that's why it is easier. 23:07 < ti9s> neuromanser in translate podoidet? 23:08 < netrunner> ti9s: even if I started it, please export LANG=en ;) /me is just too curious 23:08 < netrunner> ... and I do not want to wake up my gf to translate for me ;) 23:08 < ti9s> koi8-r forever ) 23:09 < netrunner> njet 23:09 < daja77> hehe 23:09 * daja77 would wake up his girl to translate into italian perhaps 23:10 * netrunner goes to bed. that seminar this weekend and the party inbetween took all my sleep. 23:10 < daja77> gn8 netrunner 23:10 < ti9s> gn8 23:10 < netrunner> n8 daja77, ti9s 23:11 < ti9s> bookmark this channel 23:11 < ti9s> ) 23:12 < daja77> :) 23:13 < daja77> any more questions? 23:13 < ti9s> no more before 23:14 < daja77> ok 23:14 < ti9s> stop 23:14 < daja77> ? 23:15 < ti9s> how window manager yau use? 23:15 < ti9s> you 23:15 < daja77> i use kde atm 23:15 < ti9s> ok 23:15 < ti9s> now fluxbox 23:15 < daja77> and likes blackbox and its clones very much 23:15 < daja77> :) 23:16 < ti9s> and stupid bug with fonts antialiasing 23:16 < ti9s> you know developer's fluxbox? 23:16 < daja77> no 23:19 -!- jani_ [~jani@ppp115-242.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:21 < ti9s> ok 23:21 < ti9s> iam sleep now 23:21 < daja77> n8 ti9s 23:22 -!- ti9s [~LeClair@213.252.117.199] has left #rocklinux ["Вышел из XChat"] 23:44 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522D1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:51 < jani_> is there any way of building some custom boot disks? I looked through the handbook, and couldn't find anything. Alternatively, is there a way of installing Rock using a boot disk from another distro? 23:54 -!- elteo [~elteo@251.Red-80-36-58.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 23:57 -!- _spectre_ [wupnsce@stahl.uni-oldenburg.de] has quit Remote closed the connection --- Log closed Mon Dez 01 00:00:49 2003