From rock-user-bounces@rocklinux.org Wed Jun 23 22:02:49 2004 Received: from phoenix.clifford.at (localhost.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.clifford.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5NK2JvY021893; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:02:19 +0200 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by phoenix.clifford.at (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i5NK2IvX021890 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:02:18 +0200 Received: (qmail 31241 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2004 20:02:08 -0000 Received: from 80.140.73.227 by www10.gmx.net with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:02:08 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:02:08 +0200 (MEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alex_B=E4r=22?= To: ROCK Users Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [rock-user] Installation report drock 2.0.1 rev. 2585 (incoming) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #197529 Message-ID: <16232.1088020928@www10.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: rock-user@rocklinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: ROCK Users Mailing List List-Id: ROCK Users Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: rock-user-bounces@rocklinux.org Errors-To: rock-user-bounces@rocklinux.org Excellent! 8-) Alex You wrote: Hi, On: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 02:31:28 +0200 (MEST), "Alex Bär" wrote: > Yes, of course. Forgive me, but I'm really struggling in putting precisely > what I mean. My point was not for ROCK itself, but for its target > distributions, but sentences tend to grow in length when one wants to be > correct here... ;-) > So what can an end-user do after installing the dRock CDs in order to get > the latest security patches for his system? As far as I can see there's no > standard end-user tool like SuSE's YaST Online Update or swaret for > Slackware. At first sight this might look logical, as patches are normally > provided by the vendor/distributor, ie by the person or group who built that > particular target. > But as far as I can see noone really provides patches or updates for ROCK > targets, at the moment. Which makes ROCK targets a little less interesting > to end-users than other distros. Just have the SVN checkout of the associated stable tree and run a "svn up" with successive "./scripts/Update-System" on it. This way you get all the sane and stable security update and fixes - and in a full automated way. Only Update-System could need a tiny improvement for it to work a bit more smoothly. I can do this today. > But I think this has not to remain that way. The build system creates a > large repository of binaries. What about just throwing together what > everyone had built successfully, and offer it for download from a central > FTP source? > Ok, it won't be quite that easy, and there would be many details to be > determined. But I think, most of the things needed are already there, as > parts of the build system (tool chain). What's missing is just a tool like > apt-get or swaret. One can even go a step further and only push the binary deltas. Rocket is on possible sollution for this - and my synchronicity another. Or one can improve Build-Pkg to try to get the built binary from a cache site - of course using a hash of the config in use to get the ones for the correct gcc and ROCK version ... > Of course, this is not something of the core requirements for ROCK, as this > is about targets and not ROCK itself. However, wouldn't it be good for ROCK > as a whole, if the targets were more attractive for end-users? Sure - and we are currently exploring several ways to do provide more precompiled packages and updates. Sincerely yours, René Rebe - ROCK Linux stable release maintainer -- René Rebe - Europe/Germany/Berlin rene@rocklinux.org rene@rocklinux-consulting.de http://www.rocklinux.org http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de -- +++ Jetzt WLAN-Router für alle DSL-Einsteiger und Wechsler +++ GMX DSL-Powertarife zudem 3 Monate gratis* http://www.gmx.net/dsl _______________________________________________ rock-user mailing list rock-user@rocklinux.org http://www.rocklinux.net/mailman/listinfo/rock-user